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Why Wont Chirstians Respond To This?

 
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I dislike your god yes for he is the leader of the archons. YHVH is an evil overlors who demands worship or he devours you but thats another story.

Hahahahaha i was destined for this therefore i have no freewill... god sees past, present and future simultaneously therefore when he created my soul he knew exactly where i would end up right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24992699


Then what is your complaint?

Will you not go to eternal fire and suffer forever?

If this is what you desire then you will have it.

There is the other choice but you are only willing to CHOOSE this one.

So burn.
Or accept forgiveness and life.

In Jesus Christ.
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Haha i feel so bad for people like you. The only way to justify your sad life is to condemn others to hell... you really think god wants to hangout with a bunch of people who walked around earth telling everyone they are going to hell? You think he will think you are better than me?
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No one is condemning you, you are condemning yourself. Try the blame game on your day, and lets see how far that gets you.
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Haha your handle is very ironic for you are stuck in an ancient paradigm used to fool sheeple 2000 years ago, congratulations...
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I cant bring myself to believe that a person who has lived in isolation, say a tribe in the middle of the amazon, who has never heard of the bible or jesus, would be condemed to hell simply because. I believe that if you are a good person, believe in a creator and respect the creator and his creations, then you will be taken care of. I pray to God everyday and ask for his strength and protection. For those who choose not to believe I ask you this, What's it hurt?? Say I'm wrong and you die/the world ends and nothing happens...just black...its over. Who cares right? But say you die and the stories are true, you're reunited with loved ones in a wonderful place we cant even imagine, simply because we believed. It doenst hurt, doesnt cost anything, and if Christians are right, then we have something great to look forward to!
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I cant bring myself to believe that a person who has lived in isolation, say a tribe in the middle of the amazon, who has never heard of the bible or jesus, would be condemed to hell simply because. I believe that if you are a good person, believe in a creator and respect the creator and his creations, then you will be taken care of. I pray to God everyday and ask for his strength and protection. For those who choose not to believe I ask you this, What's it hurt?? Say I'm wrong and you die/the world ends and nothing happens...just black...its over. Who cares right? But say you die and the stories are true, you're reunited with loved ones in a wonderful place we cant even imagine, simply because we believed. It doenst hurt, doesnt cost anything, and if Christians are right, then we have something great to look forward to!
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AMEN!!!!! A BROTHER OR SISTER WHO UNDERSTANDS THAT GOD LOVES EVERYONE!!! AND FINDS A WAY FOR EVERYONE!!!!
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So god gives us free will but sends us to hell if we make the wrong choices? He puts those choices in front of us on purpose and allows satan to rule over this world. He offers no help besides dying on a cross and whispering words into a few mens ears.

What kind of an asshole gives his children free will with the possibility of two destinations. One being eternal love and the other being eternal hate, torture and fear?

This whole religion is sheep control by TPTB yet you sheep cant realize it no matter what.
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God doesn't "send" you to hell for making the wrong choices...He doesn't save you from hell because you made the wrong choices. There is a difference.

He offers a lot more help than the two acts you point out. As a matter of fact, even though you profess to not believe, I would wager anything that God has "helped" you in more ways than you could possibly imagine. Some may be very subtle, others impossible to ignore. If you were being honest, I would believe that you could think of some.

God has given us a choice...

Believe...profess...and work = Eternal life

Not believe...not profess...and it doesn't matter what your works are = Eternal damnation.

Seems pretty simple to me...I for one am glad he didn't overcomplicate it.

I'm a long ways from being a "sheep". But whatever...believe what you want. No one is going to force you to believe anything.

Also, if you really want to have a discussion about something, try using less juvenile language in the future.
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So because my thoughts dont align with the book he had men write down on paper he isnt going to save my eternal soul?
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Its because you choose not to believe in Jesus, and willingly ignore the evidence people present to you, so you can keep living your life without fear of God's judgment when you die.
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It doenst hurt, doesnt cost anything, and if Christians are right, then we have something great to look forward to!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward


What if Hindu's are right? What if the Jews are right? What if Islam is right? What is Mormons are right? What if Sikh's are right? What if pantheists are right?

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First of all Satan cannot take or drag you to Hell. There is only one authority that cast judgement, God.
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So you are saying that god knowingly sends people to hell?
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It's like this.... God made two places for eternity, heaven and hell. Hell was created for satan and the angels that followed him in rebellion. Heaven was created for God and everyone else (angels, people, etc.) Man was given one simple rule and that was not to eat from one tree in the whole garden. Well he failed and brought sin into the world. God gave Jesus as a gift so that we can be saved from death (hell). We make the choice if we want to except the gift or not. God just gives you what you want, and if you don't want any part of Him, then He sends you to where He isn't since that is what you want.
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So god did place satan on earth? Where is hell located? Where is heaven located? What happens after heaven?

How is dying on a cross knowing that you have eternal life since you are god a sacrifice?
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God kicked satan out of heaven. Satan has free will to roam this earth since the deed to the earth was given to him after the fall of man (Adam and Eve). I do not know where hell is located nor do I know where heaven is located.

What happens after heaven? Can you explain your question?

Not sure what you are asking in the last question either
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Interesting no one would comment on my understanding that several religeons are really Lucifarian...

I don't need to quote scripture to tell you that if your religeon in any way tells you, that you will become GOD, you are a lucifarian.
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I cant bring myself to believe that a person who has lived in isolation, say a tribe in the middle of the amazon, who has never heard of the bible or jesus, would be condemed to hell simply because. I believe that if you are a good person, believe in a creator and respect the creator and his creations, then you will be taken care of. I pray to God everyday and ask for his strength and protection. For those who choose not to believe I ask you this, What's it hurt?? Say I'm wrong and you die/the world ends and nothing happens...just black...its over. Who cares right? But say you die and the stories are true, you're reunited with loved ones in a wonderful place we cant even imagine, simply because we believed. It doenst hurt, doesnt cost anything, and if Christians are right, then we have something great to look forward to!
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AMEN!!!!! A BROTHER OR SISTER WHO UNDERSTANDS THAT GOD LOVES EVERYONE!!! AND FINDS A WAY FOR EVERYONE!!!!
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If everyone believed in Jesus, we wouldnt be having this discussion in the first place. God does love everyone, but not everyone loves him back.
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It doenst hurt, doesnt cost anything, and if Christians are right, then we have something great to look forward to!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward


What if Hindu's are right? What if the Jews are right? What if Islam is right? What is Mormons are right? What if Sikh's are right? What if pantheists are right?
 Quoting: John Kimble


Then I guess no one has to worry about burning in hell for eternity if they didn't believe. But what if you don't believe and the Christians are right?
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It doenst hurt, doesnt cost anything, and if Christians are right, then we have something great to look forward to!
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What if Hindu's are right? What if the Jews are right? What if Islam is right? What is Mormons are right? What if Sikh's are right? What if pantheists are right?
 Quoting: John Kimble


Thats why you should read some of their scripture for yourself, instead of listening to the mass around you like a sheep.
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Actually, regardless of how 'good' a person you are, you're still a sinner and deserve hell, like we all do. Or are you saying you are above sin? If not, then you can repent and turn away from those sins, and have faith in Jesus. The real question is, why do you continue to doubt Jesus, when all recorded history and prophecy points to only him? You think muhammed is a btter candidate, or are you just a believer in the puddle of slime?
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You have to be alive on the day of return to end up in hell, dead and awake. To die before then is to be in a sleep and suddenly you are awake at the GWT. That is why death and hell are emptied at the GWT. BTW the sea gives up the ones who died in the flood.
Islam is the alternative path to God for people who want nothing to do with a corrupt Church, the judgment will still be based on the relationship with God as defined by the 7 letters.
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Too bad the koran contradicts itself several times. It also commands to kill non-believers 100+ times.
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It doenst hurt, doesnt cost anything, and if Christians are right, then we have something great to look forward to!
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What if Hindu's are right? What if the Jews are right? What if Islam is right? What is Mormons are right? What if Sikh's are right? What if pantheists are right?
 Quoting: John Kimble


Then I guess no one has to worry about burning in hell for eternity if they didn't believe. But what if you don't believe and the Christians are right?
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Why? You don't care if you for instance reincarnate as a cow on some horrible farm where you will be tortured every day till you die and than the same stuff will happen again? And do you not care about the Hell wich islam speaks of?
Christians aren't the only ones with fetishes about eternal torture.
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It doenst hurt, doesnt cost anything, and if Christians are right, then we have something great to look forward to!
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What if Hindu's are right? What if the Jews are right? What if Islam is right? What is Mormons are right? What if Sikh's are right? What if pantheists are right?
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Thats why you should read some of their scripture for yourself, instead of listening to the mass around you like a sheep.
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And then just pick the one I like most? How can you bet money on 1 religion when there are hundreds of thousands?
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OP there's so much stupid jumbled up in your one little paragraph that its hard to figure out where to start.
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It doenst hurt, doesnt cost anything, and if Christians are right, then we have something great to look forward to!
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What if Hindu's are right? What if the Jews are right? What if Islam is right? What is Mormons are right? What if Sikh's are right? What if pantheists are right?
 Quoting: John Kimble


Then I guess no one has to worry about burning in hell for eternity if they didn't believe. But what if you don't believe and the Christians are right?
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Why? You don't care if you for instance reincarnate as a cow on some horrible farm where you will be tortured every day till you die and than the same stuff will happen again? And do you not care about the Hell wich islam speaks of?
Christians aren't the only ones with fetishes about eternal torture.
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Why are you bringing up islam? Just trying to confuse, and deceive?
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Why are you bringing up islam? Just trying to confuse, and deceive?
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I am bringing up several religions. Are you scared of Islam or something?
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It doenst hurt, doesnt cost anything, and if Christians are right, then we have something great to look forward to!
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What if Hindu's are right? What if the Jews are right? What if Islam is right? What is Mormons are right? What if Sikh's are right? What if pantheists are right?
 Quoting: John Kimble


Thats why you should read some of their scripture for yourself, instead of listening to the mass around you like a sheep.
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And then just pick the one I like most? How can you bet money on 1 religion when there are hundreds of thousands?
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No, choose the only one that is actually the Word of God. An entire book with no innaccuracies, no contradictions, no part of which has been disproven by man. I think you already know what book this is.
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Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
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So god gives us free will but sends us to hell if we make the wrong choices? He puts those choices in front of us on purpose and allows satan to rule over this world. He offers no help besides dying on a cross and whispering words into a few mens ears.

What kind of an asshole gives his children free will with the possibility of two destinations. One being eternal love and the other being eternal hate, torture and fear?

This whole religion is sheep control by TPTB yet you sheep cant realize it no matter what.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24992699


God doesn't "send" you to hell for making the wrong choices...He doesn't save you from hell because you made the wrong choices. There is a difference.

He offers a lot more help than the two acts you point out. As a matter of fact, even though you profess to not believe, I would wager anything that God has "helped" you in more ways than you could possibly imagine. Some may be very subtle, others impossible to ignore. If you were being honest, I would believe that you could think of some.

God has given us a choice...

Believe...profess...and work = Eternal life

Not believe...not profess...and it doesn't matter what your works are = Eternal damnation.

Seems pretty simple to me...I for one am glad he didn't overcomplicate it.

I'm a long ways from being a "sheep". But whatever...believe what you want. No one is going to force you to believe anything.

Also, if you really want to have a discussion about something, try using less juvenile language in the future.
 Quoting: salty1


So because my thoughts dont align with the book he had men write down on paper he isnt going to save my eternal soul?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25292716


Its because you choose not to believe in Jesus, and willingly ignore the evidence people present to you, so you can keep living your life without fear of God's judgment when you die.
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I believe in christ. I dont believe in the abrahamic version of god.
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No, choose the only one that is actually the Word of God. An entire book with no innaccuracies, no contradictions, no part of which has been disproven by man. I think you already know what book this is.
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The book of Mormon? I mean are you seriously trying to suggest the Bible has no inaccuracies, no contradictions?
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Why are you bringing up islam? Just trying to confuse, and deceive?
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I am bringing up several religions. Are you scared of Islam or something?
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Are youscared of lloking up the several contradictions in the koran yourself? Or do you not intend to research anything at all? -hence the 'confuse, deceive' part
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Too bad the koran contradicts itself several times. It also commands to kill non-believers 100+ times.
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You say that as if it was worse than Christians killing people by the millions every decade for 100's of years. What part of the two laws authorizes that? No part, if you can't understand the easy parts then figuring out the rest is going to be even harder to do.

No offense but I would rather a Muslim answered what you see as conflicts.
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What if Hindu's are right? What if the Jews are right? What if Islam is right? What is Mormons are right? What if Sikh's are right? What if pantheists are right?
 Quoting: John Kimble


Thats why you should read some of their scripture for yourself, instead of listening to the mass around you like a sheep.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2183540


And then just pick the one I like most? How can you bet money on 1 religion when there are hundreds of thousands?
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No, choose the only one that is actually the Word of God. An entire book with no innaccuracies, no contradictions, no part of which has been disproven by man. I think you already know what book this is.
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It certainly isnt christianity if thats what you are implying...
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Here is my quick understanding of the main points of your religion. If i am wrong do not just say that i am an idiot, please back up your response with a logical argument from your own understanding NOT SCRIPTURE!

God loves us. God banishes Satan to live on the same planet as us and gives him the ability to corrupt us and drag us to hell. God sacrifices himself so that if you believe in him and do what it says in a book that was written by men you will be spared and Satan will not get you. God can only save less than 35% of his creations. It doesn't matter how good of a person you are, if you dont believe in the holy book, you will burn in hell for eternity. But he loves us all....
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Hell is a place prepared for the Devil and his angels only. God will separate the wheat from the chaff and then send the demons into the fire.

There are some who this is appealing to, they are fire born creatures. They belong there in their natural habitat.

For others, who are not born of flame, but are flirting with Hell, the LORD will literally scare the Hell out of them. That is why Jesus tells us there will be distress on the Earth unequaled since it's foundation and not to be equaled again.
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OP there's so much stupid jumbled up in your one little paragraph that its hard to figure out where to start.
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Seems pretty straight forward to me maybe your just such a humongous pile of retard that you can't understand... He's saying that the bullshit you have been fed your entire life is completely hypocritical and only braindead morons would beleive such a ridiculous thing.
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Here is my try .
God the Creator of all, made Adam and Eve
Genesis 1
Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”


Then Eve was the weak link, caused sin, so when things got really bad , gave us free will
satan a fallen Angel , keeps gathering souls
Genesis 6
The LORD was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain.

So he washed away things with Noah to start over,

When he saw this was not working He (Jesus) came down , suffered and died , left us a great book to live by and will come again to take those that got it.
Hope that helps love to youhf
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It doenst hurt, doesnt cost anything, and if Christians are right, then we have something great to look forward to!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward


What if Hindu's are right? What if the Jews are right? What if Islam is right? What is Mormons are right? What if Sikh's are right? What if pantheists are right?
 Quoting: John Kimble


Thats why you should read some of their scripture for yourself, instead of listening to the mass around you like a sheep.
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And then just pick the one I like most? How can you bet money on 1 religion when there are hundreds of thousands?
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Sorry, i said christianity due to personal beliefs. I think that every religion as its own stories of afterlife, heaven, reincarntion, whatever. Nobody knows what happens. I dont believe any particular religion is right or wrong. I believe in respecting eachother, respecting the world, and respecting your creator, if you have one. If not, that is your belief and I respect you for it. I hope that EVERYONE has someplace special in the afterlife. I believe that everyone can be forgiven. Who knows, maybe we keep coming back to better ourselves with reincarnation.
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OP there's so much stupid jumbled up in your one little paragraph that its hard to figure out where to start.
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No shit, imagine a whole book of it, lol!
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It doenst hurt, doesnt cost anything, and if Christians are right, then we have something great to look forward to!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward


What if Hindu's are right? What if the Jews are right? What if Islam is right? What is Mormons are right? What if Sikh's are right? What if pantheists are right?
 Quoting: John Kimble


Then I guess no one has to worry about burning in hell for eternity if they didn't believe. But what if you don't believe and the Christians are right?
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Fear of hell isnt a good reason to believe in your god...
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Too bad the koran contradicts itself several times. It also commands to kill non-believers 100+ times.
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You say that as if it was worse than Christians killing people by the millions every decade for 100's of years. What part of the two laws authorizes that? No part, if you can't understand the easy parts then figuring out the rest is going to be even harder to do.

No offense but I would rather a Muslim answered what you see as conflicts.
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Are you referring to a specific verse in the Bible, Or just stereotyping?





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