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Thread: Sandy Hook , Bloomberg link and explanation for kindergarden teacher

Looked who missed work that day.

Joanne Didonato had never taken a day off from work but she just happened to be off on the day of the massacre. A coincidence? Maybe? maybe it is also a coincidence that her daughter is friends with SCOTT VOLLMER from High School too?

We are still trying to determine if the head janitor, Kevin Anzellotti was out that day. Some reports say he was a hero, others point out that he was off that day. Either way he is also a friend of Janet Vollmer.

Isn't it a coincidence that if you were a friend of Janet Vollmer you were either off from work, not targeted (Sally Cox) or were shot in the foot. If you were a kid though you received 4 to 11 bullets?

Too many coincidences for me


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In response to the original thread

Thread: Sandy Hook , Bloomberg link and explanation for kindergarden teacher

Looked who missed work that day.

Joanne Didonato had never taken a day off from work but she just happened to be off on the day of the massacre. A coincidence? Maybe? maybe it is also a coincidence that her daughter is friends with SCOTT VOLLMER from High School too?

We are still trying to determine if the head janitor, Kevin Anzellotti was out that day. Some reports say he was a hero, others point out that he was off that day. Either way he is also a friend of Janet Vollmer.

Isn't it a coincidence that if you were a friend of Janet Vollmer you were either off from work, not targeted (Sally Cox) or were shot in the foot. If you were a kid though you received 4 to 11 bullets?

Too many coincidences for me


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interesting.

how you link DIdonato daughter to Scott Vollmer?

The confusion about the janitor Kevin Anzellotti, seems possible. If a witness tells story about the janitor running in hallway. And later the journlist check in handbook who is the janitor. He write the wrong name.
But sure, it's very strange we didnt hear him much.
i think he was handcuffed in the hall by cops.

And Sally Cox the nurse is not the wounded adult, she is the one who stay 4 hours in a closet.
Natalie Hammond is the lead teacher in meeting with Dawn.
Her story have different version.
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Y'all saw on his FB he left Bloomberg in 2011, right?
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I extracted the following post from Kevin's Facebook page.
Im not American but using the expression "mission complete" seems odd to me.
I assumed that Kevin may have been commenting on the move to the new school but that didn't take place until the 5th of Jan.


Kevin J Anzellotti
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All I can say Sandy Hook is start the buses and sharpen our pencils mission complete. :-)
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I extracted the following post from Kevin's Facebook page.
Im not American but using the expression "mission complete" seems odd to me.
I assumed that Kevin may have been commenting on the move to the new school but that didn't take place until the 5th of Jan.


Kevin J Anzellotti
January 1 via mobile
All I can say Sandy Hook is start the buses and sharpen our pencils mission complete. :-)

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wtf
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I extracted the following post from Kevin's Facebook page.
Im not American but using the expression "mission complete" seems odd to me.
I assumed that Kevin may have been commenting on the move to the new school but that didn't take place until the 5th of Jan.


Kevin J Anzellotti
January 1 via mobile
All I can say Sandy Hook is start the buses and sharpen our pencils mission complete. :-)

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screen caps of this?
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The janitor Kevin was on vacation when it happened. Must have been another one, probably never named
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screen caps of this?


Unfortunately no I haven't. I was surprised that kevin had kept his Facebook open to the public up until sometime in January. He appears to be an open and honest person, I just think that "mission complete" was an odd expression.
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How did you connect Didonato's daughter with Volmer? It is a small town so it's not terribly suspect of itself. Dunno what the video "blowing the lid off Sandy Hook" was all about other than a rant about christianity. Did he even mention Sandy Hook? complete waste of time that.

I agree the people around Volmer not getting hurt or being there that day is extremely suspicious. Did you see the video of the guy being frisked? There's a thread on it and the guy does bear a resemblance to Volmer though he may be younger than the guy in the vid.
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The janitor Kevin was on vacation when it happened. Must have been another one, probably never named
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Rick Thorne is the other janitor and the one mentioned in the wiki article.
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sorry to go off topic a bit, but that teacher Vicki Soto is so good looking

it's hard to believe she is probably an actress...

good work OP thanks for the due diligence
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This is good.
Thanks op!
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"Since the alleged shooter's father is VP of GE Capital, and (like “Batman shooter” James Holmes’s father) was scheduled to testify at the Senate Hearings on the LIBOR scandal, is there a LIBOR connection to this event?""

And yet, sophisticated interest rate swap traders at the biggest banks in the world routinely engaged in rate fixing communications over a five year period and their established method of communication was over the Bloomberg terminal, according to the U.S. Department of Justice. Hayes communicated in this manner with colleagues at UBS, with inter-dealer brokers and with traders at other large Wall Street firms.


[link to wallstreetonparade.com]


The comic book "Red Devil" (Edward Alan "Eddie" Bloomberg}started as a kid devil then was taught by professors at the Institute of Hyper-normal Conflict Studies.

CODE NAME RED DEVIL (war movie--- two enemies must cooperate to survive conflict)

[link to www.flickr.com] {A quick ref. to the arlington red devil page announcing the link to how to talk to you children... pdf. from the crisis management institute--- Cherrie Louvre}


To most arm-chair detectives the references derived from "red devil" linking to Crisis Management... are simply meaningless. However, the logical answer to who knew about the shootings prior to the event is none other than Adam Lanza himself. Allow some plausibility just for the scenario to be questioned.... what other crimes are occurring in Newtown? Was Sandy Hook Elementary school the final target (the school is dead figuratively speaking) due to something else even worse?

Put aside the possible answers for just a moment and go back to the strange fact the "Nurse" who rendered no aid of any kind to those kids (she knew by name) because she was hiding in a medical supply closet for a consistently reported four hours--- was also the source for the glaring, impossible fore-knowledge that Nancy Lanza was killed by her son? She knew that (Nancy) was a kindergarten teacher and by all those morning reports WAS dead in her room? Along with her kids?

Remember the reporter who asked Lt. Vance about Nancy being a teacher.... what time was this question asked? Seems to me the nurse who was hiding in the closet, with no cell phone, could not have told anybody anything period.

[2:50 p.m. UPDATE: From ABC : "ABC confirms the mother of suspected shooter Ryan Lanza is among the dead at Newtown (CT) elementary-school mass shooting."]


Dec. 14, 13:01 ET: Reports suggest the gunman was the father of a student.

Dec. 14, 14:23 ET: The suspected gunman's mother, Nancy Lanza, was a teacher at the elementary school, reports CBS News. She is among those killed.

Lost in the contortions of who said what when and why... is a simple bed-rock fact--- NONE of the kindergarten teachers died and NONE of their students were shot at period. There was no MIS-identification! There were only two teachers and both were alive and well to SPEAK for themselves.

So... we have a deliberate lie where NONE had to be... except for the fact the NURSE who was hiding in the closet, was also the source for the eyes met and she knew the killer was the son of the K-teacher, however she did not seem surprised or baffled as to WHY this "SON" was about to shoot up the school? Where did she hear or know "Nancy Lanza" and why would she jump to a conclusion that was quite false? When she saw the gunman he had yet to kill his kindergarten MOM... or her kids...? Her actions are quite bizarre... when the shooting stopped why was she still hiding in the medical closet and not out of there in a heart-beat to render aid to the kids she knew by name? Of all the damning contradictions this refusal to render aid(too afraid) is not excusable.

What was the real reason she was hiding? Did she in fact recognize the son (Scott) and she knew she had to lie to save her own life? Why pull Nancy out of the hat if this was just a random oops.

Just as there is no good answer WHY the Arlington news flash was published on the 10th, Nancy Lanza was teacher of the kindergarten kids or why the Nurse hid in a closet for four hours and yet SHE was the source for information SHE never actually saw.... her eyes were closed on the way out... when did she ever see any dead bodies in the kindergarten rooms? How did she become the source for identifying Nancy when she herself had no direct contact with the shooting results. Why ask HER anything about who was dead in the first place? She made no mention of the 1st graders at all.

WHY did Miss Soto not lock her door?

Why did the police dispatch record the kitchen closet as a location of 18 kids and a teacher?

Why ask where the kids are? Or let me in? Evil gunman just shoot and kill... three minutes later and boom he offs himself?

Why didn't the gunman just shred doors down the hallway with his long gun?

What was the hurry?

At 9:15 am it was reported by tweet/photo that cops were blocking the street leading to the Lanza residence. The shooter was still en route to the school. The only person who was dead was Nancy... and yet they waited for several hours... why? Why were the computers destroyed? Was one of Nancy's computers a Bloomberg terminal? Was Adam in possession of e-mail/documents pertaining to the trial concerning his father? Did he have "other" files even more damning? Did he know Scott? Did he have reason to believe something really damn evil was going on at that school? Was he a part of those activities in some way? Were the victims specifically targeted due to this information? Did Adam Lanza leave the one bread-crumb trail he knew the authorities would never suspect or even attempt to find?

The red devil news page means nothing by itself. If it was done by Adam then it becomes quite meaningful IF the names and links meant something in regards to the motive of what was to transpire and WHO is actually involved.

Who benefits?

If Adam had no hand in the red devil news page then who else might be involved? Crisis management or counter-intelligence working for big name insiders? Two enemies coming together for mutual survival to hide a far more damning crime? A crime so shocking or too incriminating?

The red devil is quite the Joker?











The school nurse said she recognized the killer as Nancy Lanza’s son when she looked into his eyes. She said Nancy Lanza was a wonderful and loving kindergarten teacher.

a reporter giving her eyewitness account, in breaking news, in a school tragedy.

“I happened to run across a woman who had tears in her eyes, and she was being led by two younger women, and I asked if she was okay. It turns out she was the school nurse at Sandy Hook Elementary and was for fifteen years. She described the gunman coming into her office. They met eyes, she jumped under her desk, and he inexplicably just walked out.”











"A source employed in the school in question is being told to not talk to anyone about what they know.

They sent the live feed to a news reporter at the neighbor where the kid lived. The reporter states, "The neighbors said that around 9:15am they saw police surrounding the 'kids' house and taping off the neighborhood and telling everyone to evacuate". Did you catch that? 9:15am!

The shootings were reported around 10-10:30am. The police DID NOT supposedly learn the identity of the shooter until between 11-11:30am. YET, they are surrounding and taping off the neighborhood of the 'kid' at 9:15am well before the shootings took place. They were at the house before the shootings took place."
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This is a good article:


[link to www.globalresearch.ca]


"Interviews with other survivors that would have in all likelihood eagerly recounted their valorous acts are also strangely absent from subsequent press coverage. For example, while a Sandy Hook library clerk’s ordeal received national exposure,[5] other library workers, the school’s custodian and cafeteria employees highlighted in the Bee’s aforementioned story[6] are nowhere to be found."

“There was the school custodian,” the Bee observed, bleary-eyed and shaking off expressions of thanks and praise, who, as shots were ringing out, reportedly ran through the school halls making sure classroom doors were locked from the inside*** … There were the library staffers who heard commotion on the school’s public address system and learned there was a gunman in the building … And two cafeteria workers who heard shots and dropped to the ground, crawling into a utility closet and locking themselves in until help arrived.[7*]



* [link to newtownbee.com]

"And the school nurse who fought the urge to run toward the commotion to help, instead following the protocol and training she received never thinking she would have to use it. That adherence to her training likely saved her life."


She hid in a closet for hours... no mention of who was in that closet with her.

*Why was the custodian never properly interviewed? He had to have seen the shooter... at the very least he was capable of calling 911 as well... [why are none of the calls or one call recorded?] So he was madly dashing through the halls locking doors from the inside... Okay but the reports said the teachers locked their doors with their own keys. The doors have small windows... which are not bullet proof... is locking the door as significant as it is implied? Why did Soto not lock her door in time?

Lanza was wearing ear plugs... so anyone sneaking up from behind could have nailed him with anything handy... rail thin Lanza was no match for a full grown man and there is no indication Lanza even knew how to fight... his arms had to be tooth-picks along with his leg strength... he was squeezing off rounds in a classroom with his back to the open door... why didn't the custodian take him out by what-ever means possible? A fire-extinguisher to the back of the head... anything was better than doing nothing at all.

If he was there then the key story is another bold-faced lie straight from the Newtown Bee... what else are they lying about? Or better yet why are they lying at all? Any pre-story is impossible if the actions of the shooter were indeed random.
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Good work.

Here is a contradiction. The teacher's name was Vollmer.
The woman who dove under the desk after making eye contact said the shooter was that teacher's son. That makes the shooter Scott Vollmer.
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Who benefited from the tragedy?

Well within 30 days New York state legislators proposed comprehensive gun confiscation. So who had an interest in that?

[link to www.youtube.com]

I think these leads into this motive and agenda definitely warrants more detailed pursuit.
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sorry to go off topic a bit, but that teacher Vicki Soto is so good looking

it's hard to believe she is probably an actress...

good work OP thanks for the due diligence
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Starting with Natalie Hammond and searching through all the friends is quite interesting about who friended who ... if you look hard enough you will even find a Victoria Soto clone ...

Happy hunting.

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I still think it's worth looking at the Peter Lanza angle; if any part of the story is accurate, Lanza's wife and youngest son were both dead before 10:00 a.m.

I'm guessing there's ongoing investigation into anyone who might have had it in for Lanza, or even into Lanza himself.

Simply pinning such a massacre on Peter's son could, itself, be a punishment of some kind.

Peter Lanza's branch of GE is 1.7 miles from the branch which is technically involved in one of the biggest financial scams in world history; to write off Lanza's involvement is premature, particularly as, since he is still free, he could easily have been testifying or providing other evidence against some of his colleagues who are now in prison, or slated for prison.
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Someone said in a recent comment (seems to be gone now, or else I just can't find it - been trying) that Nancy Lanza was "psychotic."

But from CNN (yeah I know, but):

"Police Chief Donald Briggs Jr. told reporters that he knew Nancy. [link to articles.cnn.com]

“She was a great person who would do anything for you, a heart of gold. She was just a real, real nice, nice person,” he said, according to the Union Leader newspaper of Manchester.

Nancy Lanza was a giving, quiet, reserved person who grew up on a farm in New Hampshire with three siblings in a self-reliant family, Marsha Lanza said."
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Should Scott Vollmer make a public appearance and deny these potential accusations?
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Came across this site which has a really well done researched analysis:

[link to undeletedevidence.blogspot.com]

"It was reported that school custodian Kevin J. Anzellotti ran through the school halls warning school staff and students, and checking that all the doors were locked from the inside. School staffer Shari Thornburg(listed in 2010-11 student handbook) said that Anzelotti was also heard yelling at a gunman inside the school to "Put the gun down! Put the gun down".

What this tells us is that Kevin Anzelotti actually saw one of the shooters and no one is interviewing him at all about what he witnessed."-----
[link to wolfblitzzer0.blogspot.com] (Scroll down for pic. of Kevin and a snapshot of his FB page---no longer available)

While looking for more info on why there is any reason for such conflicting reports of which custodian was actually on duty that morning, I came across this well researched you tube posting which addresses many of the same questions: [link to www.youtube.com]


More on Feda(who is listed on the 2010-11 students handbook page correctly):

Feda is the teacher who others said took charge to move students and staff from the school to the nearby Sandy Hook firehouse. Why not quote her directly? This business of quoting "other people not-named" seriously undermines credibility and hints at mis-direction to cover-up flaws in the official narrative.

{Feda was in the main office(with a parent?) in a meeting with Hochsprung and Sherlach and lead teacher Natalie Hammond when gunman Adam Lanza shot his way into the building. Hammond survived with injuries. Principal Dawn Hochsprung and school psychologist Mary Sherlach were meeting with other faculty members when they heard gunshots. Diane Day, a school therapist who was at the faculty meeting, heard screaming, followed by more gunshots. Natalie Hammond, lead teacher in the meeting room, pressed her body against the door to keep it closed.}


16 Dec 2012 10:17am, ES [link to todaynews.today.com]

“My kids were involved in an activity when I heard what sounded like a popping sound,” third-grade teacher Connie Sullivan explained. “These noises came over the PA system. Now that’s not a typical thing. They sounded like weeping.”

A link to school class size info:
[link to www.newtown.k12.ct.us] (note five classes 4 of 19 and one of 18 as 1st grader class sizes?)


Even when these teachers are in the same room speaking on the exact subject they still follow the same routine of contradicting themselves... If the PA system is on why would Vollmer have to explain a sound on the roof? The sounds from the bushmaster firing inside the entrance had to have been quite deafening and over the PA system there had to be severe echo from two sources... so for the kids to ask what is that noise she ignores the horror coming from the loudspeaker and tells them maybe someone [who the custodian?] is retrieving a ball on the roof?


“They said 'what is that,' and I said, ‘maybe there’s someone up on the roof getting a soccer ball,” kindergarten teacher Janet Vollmer recalled.


“Immediately, the leaders in our building did what they needed to do. They ran out of the door, knowing that that gunfire was showering the hallways and the classrooms, and it just was non-stop.”

[Still no mention of why the PA system was on and it could not be anyone in a meeting and IF they were already out the door they certainly never returned to turn it on or in Dawns case actually give an interview with the local paper. And was running out into a hail of gunfire the only thing possible? WHY not dial 911 first while switching on an alarm--- follow the rules right?}

“I kept reassuring them, that they would be okay, that they were loved, that their mommies and daddies would be there soon,” Sullivan said.

“The gunshots finally stopped, we still were all in a panic, that’s when the state police arrived… they said 'you need to come out of the building, so have the children follow you, have them hold hands, have them cover their eyes,'” Vollmer explained. {Here again she is proving the statement by the nurse was impossible... no mention of the Math teacher Feda or which custodian was on duty that morning. Maybe both were?


Newtown police dispatch first requested officers on the scene at 9:35 am[54] Connecticut State Police received the first call at 9:41 am,[46](so who arrived first according to Vollmer?} and with Newtown police, quickly mobilized local police dog and police tactical units, a bomb squad, and a state police helicopter.[63]

Police locked down the school and began evacuating the survivors room-by-room, escorting groups of students and adults away from the school. They swept the school for additional shooters at least four times. No shots were fired by the authorities.


More on custodian Rick Thorne:

In the audience at the White House on Friday when President Barack Obama honors the six slain Sandy Hook Elementary School educators with the nation's second-highest civilian honor will be four Newtown teachers and school employees.

Two of them, teacher Kristine Feda and custodian Rick Thorne, were in the school the morning of the Dec. 14 shootings, and their frantic efforts to warn others and to shepherd students to safety may have saved many other lives.

Thorne previously has declined interview requests. A news release from the American Federation of Teachers said Thorne would be available to reporters after Friday's medal ceremony.

[link to www.newstimes.com]


A custodian warned of the gunman by running through the halls, said 4th-grade teacher Theodore Varga. "He said, 'Guys! Get down! Hide!'" Varga said. "So he was actually a hero."



Now that a rather specific set of statements by the actual witnesses can be analyzed a couple of major points become quite clear: Not a one of these first hand witnesses EXPLAIN how Lanza entered the building. This, to me at least, renders everything else said suspect....

The school vice-p is reading the morning announcements while the staff is already in a meeting with a parent... a gunman approaches the door and HAS to be buzzed in... the system was both audio and visual... but no actual facts as to why nobody noticed the gunman outside first.... how did the gunman know he would simply fool the security system because nobody was looking?

If this was a random attack the gunman had NO idea that such a system even existed.... was this why he had to be a parent in the early accounts because only a parent would know about the new SECURITY system? Lanza would NOT know about the recording capability, screen image functions or a tie in to the police, specifically, IF he simply went wack-job that morning...

...IF he planned this ahead is this why he had to be there the day before TO SEE what, if any, barriers might stop him from entering the school? If the teachers reported the incident, WHY does LT Vance, have any thing to say on the matter, 'WAS he there?' so why ask him to prove anything... more BS to throw off the public...

...So Lanza has to shoot his way into the school, but the authorities cannot show one single piece of video or photo of the entrance point? The trouble here is the mom who showed up to leave something for her kid does not see shell casings littering the ground... glass is blown outwards not inwards... she is confused until she too hears shots... and can hear sirens.... she does not go into the school...

...back to Lanza who has to shoot his way in bypassing the security door... the glass has been said to be bullet-proof... OK so no big shards are flying everywhere... but inside there has to be some seriously loud bullet path plus glass reverberations and it is highly doubtful this thundering noise is not heard... so why doesn't someone look at the monitor while this blasting is occurring, after all, this is when the first 911 call should have been made. This is an up-scale school with lots of computers and top quality screens.... why scrimp on the security equipment?

Also, why no interior schematics of the office area? I say because it would show that the inner offices were the meeting was being held opened into the front desk area where the equipment was located. Leaving out any true description of how the gunman entered the building deflects the reader past the incongruity without answering the question of why the security system failed. If the gunman knew he was to be on camera and expected to survive then using a mask makes some sense...

...If he had no such expectation, then showing up loaded with weapons, also means, instant calls to 911, so he must feel pretty certain he will not be stopped before entering the building, or SHOT at by a staff member with a CC permit... how would a random gunman be so sure? Bursting in as a demented Rambo is quite dramatic, but also quite stupid and absurd... this gunman parked his car out of view of the cameras for a reason....

...he would have went around the building and shot out a non-camera entrance... he already had the element of surprise so why give himself away? If his intention was to kill as many helpless targets as possible why give away his intention when he also had to know a SCHOOL lock-down means no easy targets to reach IF every DOOR is locked... it is absurd to rationalize discordant actions just to make the narrative work. A pre-meditated attack means the gunman had to be quite certain his attack would be a success and any plan, thus reached, had to follow his expectations, NOT the post accounts asserting his intentions.

The fire-station is right down the lane and the police about two miles away... how did he know a cruiser might not be passing the fire-station? How would he know for sure the fire-fighters would not hear this rifles 160 decibel blasts to take out the front bullet proof windows? He could not know for certain his attack plan was fool-proof(he had no idea where or what any staff members were doing at the time) so the RISK factor had to be exceptionally high AND not in his favor. So what motive did he have that was so life-threatening, so powerful in his mad-mind that no amount of rational thought was going to stop him? What fueled his hatred? Such foul hatred has its own twisted logic, but Lanza has nothing in common or any relationship to this school or its staff and pupils.

One of the links listed above led me to a report containing a fact hardly reported at all:

[link to articles.courant.com]

Other units are tracing the history of the guns used in the attack, while others are interviewing school personnel and students and others are probing the background of the shooter.

Lanza had no job, never used social media, seemingly had no friends and rarely if ever had any contact with his brother or father. He did obtain a driver's license in July of 2010, three months after he turned 18, listing him as 5 feet 10 inches tall, with blue eyes and not an organ donor.

So a mere five days after the shooting this article reports the existence of an ID... why in the hell was this picture not used in the media? So authorities did in fact have a state ID to work with from the initial identification? Is this why a state employee risked their job in order to compare dead guy to photo? What if the real Adam weighs 180 and the dead guy with his face blown off carrying Ryan's ID is a crack-zombie dressed as a gunman?


Is this the Red Devil aka joker's greatest trick?

Now a motive becomes quite clear... if the red devil is still very much alive... keeping this a secret explains a whole lot of things that are just not right...
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"Since the alleged shooter's father is VP of GE Capital, and (like “Batman shooter” James Holmes’s father) was scheduled to testify at the Senate Hearings on the LIBOR scandal, is there a LIBOR connection to this event?""

And yet, sophisticated interest rate swap traders at the biggest banks in the world routinely engaged in rate fixing communications over a five year period and their established method of communication was over the Bloomberg terminal, according to the U.S. Department of Justice. Hayes communicated in this manner with colleagues at UBS, with inter-dealer brokers and with traders at other large Wall Street firms.


[link to wallstreetonparade.com]


The comic book "Red Devil" (Edward Alan "Eddie" Bloomberg}started as a kid devil then was taught by professors at the Institute of Hyper-normal Conflict Studies.

CODE NAME RED DEVIL (war movie--- two enemies must cooperate to survive conflict)

[link to www.flickr.com] {A quick ref. to the arlington red devil page announcing the link to how to talk to you children... pdf. from the crisis management institute--- Cherrie Louvre}


To most arm-chair detectives the references derived from "red devil" linking to Crisis Management... are simply meaningless. However, the logical answer to who knew about the shootings prior to the event is none other than Adam Lanza himself. Allow some plausibility just for the scenario to be questioned.... what other crimes are occurring in Newtown? Was Sandy Hook Elementary school the final target (the school is dead figuratively speaking) due to something else even worse?

Put aside the possible answers for just a moment and go back to the strange fact the "Nurse" who rendered no aid of any kind to those kids (she knew by name) because she was hiding in a medical supply closet for a consistently reported four hours--- was also the source for the glaring, impossible fore-knowledge that Nancy Lanza was killed by her son? She knew that (Nancy) was a kindergarten teacher and by all those morning reports WAS dead in her room? Along with her kids?

Remember the reporter who asked Lt. Vance about Nancy being a teacher.... what time was this question asked? Seems to me the nurse who was hiding in the closet, with no cell phone, could not have told anybody anything period.

[2:50 p.m. UPDATE: From ABC : "ABC confirms the mother of suspected shooter Ryan Lanza is among the dead at Newtown (CT) elementary-school mass shooting."]


Dec. 14, 13:01 ET: Reports suggest the gunman was the father of a student.

Dec. 14, 14:23 ET: The suspected gunman's mother, Nancy Lanza, was a teacher at the elementary school, reports CBS News. She is among those killed.

Lost in the contortions of who said what when and why... is a simple bed-rock fact--- NONE of the kindergarten teachers died and NONE of their students were shot at period. There was no MIS-identification! There were only two teachers and both were alive and well to SPEAK for themselves.

So... we have a deliberate lie where NONE had to be... except for the fact the NURSE who was hiding in the closet, was also the source for the eyes met and she knew the killer was the son of the K-teacher, however she did not seem surprised or baffled as to WHY this "SON" was about to shoot up the school? Where did she hear or know "Nancy Lanza" and why would she jump to a conclusion that was quite false? When she saw the gunman he had yet to kill his kindergarten MOM... or her kids...? Her actions are quite bizarre... when the shooting stopped why was she still hiding in the medical closet and not out of there in a heart-beat to render aid to the kids she knew by name? Of all the damning contradictions this refusal to render aid(too afraid) is not excusable.

What was the real reason she was hiding? Did she in fact recognize the son (Scott) and she knew she had to lie to save her own life? Why pull Nancy out of the hat if this was just a random oops.

Just as there is no good answer WHY the Arlington news flash was published on the 10th, Nancy Lanza was teacher of the kindergarten kids or why the Nurse hid in a closet for four hours and yet SHE was the source for information SHE never actually saw.... her eyes were closed on the way out... when did she ever see any dead bodies in the kindergarten rooms? How did she become the source for identifying Nancy when she herself had no direct contact with the shooting results. Why ask HER anything about who was dead in the first place? She made no mention of the 1st graders at all.

WHY did Miss Soto not lock her door?

Why did the police dispatch record the kitchen closet as a location of 18 kids and a teacher?

Why ask where the kids are? Or let me in? Evil gunman just shoot and kill... three minutes later and boom he offs himself?

Why didn't the gunman just shred doors down the hallway with his long gun?

What was the hurry?

At 9:15 am it was reported by tweet/photo that cops were blocking the street leading to the Lanza residence. The shooter was still en route to the school. The only person who was dead was Nancy... and yet they waited for several hours... why? Why were the computers destroyed? Was one of Nancy's computers a Bloomberg terminal? Was Adam in possession of e-mail/documents pertaining to the trial concerning his father? Did he have "other" files even more damning? Did he know Scott? Did he have reason to believe something really damn evil was going on at that school? Was he a part of those activities in some way? Were the victims specifically targeted due to this information? Did Adam Lanza leave the one bread-crumb trail he knew the authorities would never suspect or even attempt to find?

The red devil news page means nothing by itself. If it was done by Adam then it becomes quite meaningful IF the names and links meant something in regards to the motive of what was to transpire and WHO is actually involved.

Who benefits?

If Adam had no hand in the red devil news page then who else might be involved? Crisis management or counter-intelligence working for big name insiders? Two enemies coming together for mutual survival to hide a far more damning crime? A crime so shocking or too incriminating?

The red devil is quite the Joker?











The school nurse said she recognized the killer as Nancy Lanza’s son when she looked into his eyes. She said Nancy Lanza was a wonderful and loving kindergarten teacher.

a reporter giving her eyewitness account, in breaking news, in a school tragedy.

“I happened to run across a woman who had tears in her eyes, and she was being led by two younger women, and I asked if she was okay. It turns out she was the school nurse at Sandy Hook Elementary and was for fifteen years. She described the gunman coming into her office. They met eyes, she jumped under her desk, and he inexplicably just walked out.”











"A source employed in the school in question is being told to not talk to anyone about what they know.

They sent the live feed to a news reporter at the neighbor where the kid lived. The reporter states, "The neighbors said that around 9:15am they saw police surrounding the 'kids' house and taping off the neighborhood and telling everyone to evacuate". Did you catch that? 9:15am!

The shootings were reported around 10-10:30am. The police DID NOT supposedly learn the identity of the shooter until between 11-11:30am. YET, they are surrounding and taping off the neighborhood of the 'kid' at 9:15am well before the shootings took place. They were at the house before the shootings took place."
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What on earth – from today’s news: police stripped Sandy Hook victims’ clothing, laundered it, and now try to return it to families; some families want it, some don’t. [link to www.ctpost.com]

Is that just the weirdest and most inappropriate thing ever?? It should have been the PARENTS’ decision to deal with their child’s body, NOT some random CT state trooper! This is INSANE.
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What on earth – from today’s news: police stripped Sandy Hook victims’ clothing, laundered it, and now try to return it to families; some families want it, some don’t. [link to www.ctpost.com]

Is that just the weirdest and most inappropriate thing ever?? It should have been the PARENTS’ decision to deal with their child’s body, NOT some random CT state trooper! This is INSANE.
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So, three cars were hit by bullets supposedly coming from inside the school. It mentions bullet holes in windows but I haven't seen any in any photos of the windows so far.

Also, I'm still looking for proof that Natalie Hammond and the McDonnells were at the State of the Union address.
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I've been trying to find out sandy hook schools morning routine.
As I recall, schools normally do a roll call and have 'morning announcements' first thing. What time did school begin? The shooting started during morning announcements right?

I'm glad you guys are still at it. I've been out of the loop for a few weeks.
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The actions of the police in regards to returning, articles of clothing[evidence of murder] to parents is indeed really odd, especially in light of the fact no trial has been done and lawfully speaking NO verdict of guilt has been properly adjudicated. Those items of clothing are still prime evidence of a horrendous crime that are tagged and bagged directly from the crime scene or so one might expect.



Adding to the already long list of the strange:

"He was always carrying around his laptop(?) holding onto it real tight,'' Lapple said. "He walked down the halls against the wall almost like he was afraid of people. He was definitely kind of strange but you'd never think he'd do something like this."

Rebecca Jaroszewski said she was in the same first- and third-grade classes with Lanza at Sandy Hook Elementary. She said the memory that stands out most is Lanza standing alone while other children played at recess, straining himself to make his face turn red and making animal-like noises.

He did this often, Jaroszewski said. "He would seem really angry, but he wouldn't tell people why," she said.

When she heard the news about the shootings, "It clicked for me when I realized who it was," Jaroszewski said.
[link to articles.courant.com]


Did Adam still have that laptop? He was a computer geek... did he MOD all his computers? Was he a Linux, Mac or Windows expert? What was his actual skill level in computer languages? Did he have deep web access? These are critical questions which the defense dept. techs believe to be important... the news blurb was posted... so trying to see if any other news stories on the subject had been released I came across this article:

Raising Adam Lanza February 17, 2013, 2:56 am ET

[link to www.pbs.org]

Read through the article and mentally spot all the coincidental "oddities" throughout the narrative.

Then this article as well:

NEWTOWN -- Investigators have succeeded in recovering some data from one of the damaged hard drives in a computer used by Adam Lanza and have subpoenaed computers of people they believe were in contact with the Sandy Hook mass murderer, a law enforcement source said Friday.

"There is a lot of evidence that was recovered, but the question is, what does it tell us?" said one law enforcement source. "This is not a who-done-it."

[link to www.ctpost.com]



Another technique of solving "puzzles without a clue" is to look at what the "perp" may have had an interest in... which is clearly why the hard drives are so important. Stepping back from that focus one might look at what kind of material he might have been collecting in order to formulate a plan IF he was so committed to a future crime.

And in keeping with the theme/meme of his alleged favorite color: red...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Weise exchanged gunfire with police who quickly arrived at the school; after being wounded, he committed suicide in a vacant classroom.



Would Adam have checked out police related material?
Perhaps a ref. like this:

Arlington TX VICTIM SERVICES UNIT page


Approximately 33% of all women who are murdered in the United States are murdered by an intimate partner or former partner. In one study, homicide was found to be the leading cause of death of women during pregnancy, even more frequently than medical complications. Some of the risk factors associated with escalation to serious injury or homicide in family violence cases include: "..." [long list]
and the next section: Crisis Reactions

[link to www.arlingtonpd.org]


The death of Nancy was one of extreme violence, unless she knew she was already dying[she also was suffering from a potentially fatal autoimmune deficiency] and planned a way to get around suicide? Adam did what-ever his Mom told him to do? Motives in a mass homicide may not always be what they appear on the surface.

If Adam came in from the rear--- shooting down hallways--- up to the front--- then entered the office area--- more shooting--- entered the inner-offices to find and retrieve something? Went back out and targeted the rooms specifically... why? Did somebody hurt his Mom? Flip the motive the other way for a moment... somebody(s) hurt his Mom and he went nuts?

He went Code Red on them?
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Y'all saw on his FB he left Bloomberg in 2011, right?
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And he's in the big time now, right?
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