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Right after the pope says he's resigning lightning strikes
St. Peter's Basilica.
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metaphysical weirdness...in fact, it's almost as if the metaphysical is making itself more notoriously known by the day...


...maybe the timewave graph just shows novelty until it goes off the charts? There could, and undoubtedly are, more and more 'metaphysical' significances happening and going unnoticed every hour, minute, etc...
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Yes, this. What could be causing this? Ideas? Natural cycles?
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my assertion is 'consciousness' causes everything...all kinds of consciousness...determinism mixed with "free will"...hard to describe without starting a philosophical debate. I'd be opening to finding out anything in terms of natural cycles and "determinism" though. My belief(s) have personally always been that we are creating physical reality as we go. So, when the pope goes bye bye, we are all, on some level in agreement with his decision, or the reasons behind it. just my 2cents hf
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5) in a state of the union address to the nation, the main focus of a President of this country was the removal of more of our inalienable rights granted to us by the Constitution of these United States of America.???
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Inalienable rights aren't granted to people by the Constitution or any man or any document. They are inherent rights endowed to every human being upon birth.
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offtopic
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I think it is VERY important to note that the Constitution does not "grant" the inalienable rights, but rather "enumerates" and "recognizes" these inalienable rights, which are granted to every human being at birth, by The Creator, God.

I think understanding this point makes it so much more egregious what Obama and the politicians in the Federal government are doing.
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Right after the pope says he's resigning lightning strikes
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metaphysical weirdness...in fact, it's almost as if the metaphysical is making itself more notoriously known by the day...


...maybe the timewave graph just shows novelty until it goes off the charts? There could, and undoubtedly are, more and more 'metaphysical' significances happening and going unnoticed every hour, minute, etc...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1271534


Yes, this. What could be causing this? Ideas? Natural cycles?
 Quoting: TheTruthMonger


my assertion is 'consciousness' causes everything...all kinds of consciousness...determinism mixed with "free will"...hard to describe without starting a philosophical debate. I'd be opening to finding out anything in terms of natural cycles and "determinism" though. My belief(s) have personally always been that we are creating physical reality as we go. So, when the pope goes bye bye, we are all, on some level in agreement with his decision, or the reasons behind it. just my 2cents hf
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Hmm, if true, that makes us quite powerful if we can agree as a species on anything. But something or someone is making that difficult, no?
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Thread: With SO MUCH GOING ON....are we approaching SINGULARITY/Timewave Zero?
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- drones being used in the US rapidly becomes part of the national discussion in a clearly concerted fashion. Nominated CIA director Brennan refusal the answer the questions about drone use in the US.

- opposition VIP's killing themselves or suffering otherwise strange deaths in the US, from the gun realm to the DC madam

- hostess cakes no longer being made!

- deadly drug Marijuana being made legal for use

- Aliens controlling the governments and news agencies of the world
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Huh? How so?
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- CIA 'offings'

-"metaphysical weirdness" showing itself in novel ways under the most unexpected of circumstances

-MJ is not deadly, but it's growing acceptance is very novel, particularly in the US.

-look up "archons"
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It's deadly because it's illegal. If it weren't illegal the CIA would have no reason to 'off' anything. Same goes for every other alphabet agency out there.

Not sure what you mean by 'metaphysical weirdness.' I can't say that I've ever experienced that...I've craved pizza or other munchies and forgot what I was saying or thinking a lot, but 'metaphysical weirdness' not so much.

'Growing acceptance is novel?' This so called 'evil plant' has been domesticated for thousands of years, only in the last 100 or so years has it become 'evil.'

What about the 'archons'? That's just an ancient name for what we now call the elite or TPTB...nothing has changed, we're still slaves that we were centuries and millenia ago. Nobody is truly free...
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5) in a state of the union address to the nation, the main focus of a President of this country was the removal of more of our inalienable rights granted to us by the Constitution of these United States of America.???
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Inalienable rights aren't granted to people by the Constitution or any man or any document. They are inherent rights endowed to every human being upon birth.
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offtopic
 Quoting: TheTruthMonger


I think it is VERY important to note that the Constitution does not "grant" the inalienable rights, but rather "enumerates" and "recognizes" these inalienable rights, which are granted to every human being at birth, by The Creator, God.

I think understanding this point makes it so much more egregious what Obama and the politicians in the Federal government are doing.
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Not sure if this was in the WTF part 1, but what about all the school shootings - especially Sandy Hook. A supposed loner who never hurt anyone goes to an elementary school and shoots 20 little kids?
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Not sure if this was in the WTF part 1, but what about all the school shootings - especially Sandy Hook. A supposed loner who never hurt anyone goes to an elementary school and shoots 20 little kids?
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That's one that's in the WTF hall of fame!
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Art Bell referred to it as "The Quickening" in his 1997 book. I'd say we are currently exceeding the speed limit.

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I'm at a loss to understand why there are some on this site who lash out in angry contention since, those of us here being aware of what is truly occurring, should be banding together in unity at the travesties being wrought upon our lives right now. Shill infiltration can only explain so much.
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I'm at a loss to understand why there are some on this site who lash out in angry contention since, those of us here being aware of what is truly occurring, should be banding together in unity at the travesties being wrought upon our lives right now. Shill infiltration can only explain so much.
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Respectful disagreement is only natural and is encouraged, however the thread rejections backed by what seems to be much anger and baseless rage are curious to me.

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I'm at a loss to understand why there are some on this site who lash out in angry contention since, those of us here being aware of what is truly occurring, should be banding together in unity at the travesties being wrought upon our lives right now. Shill infiltration can only explain so much.
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Respectful disagreement is only natural and is encouraged, however the thread rejections backed by what seems to be much anger and baseless rage are curious to me.
 Quoting: TheTruthMonger


I am in total agreement with you in asking w.t.f? Everything seems to be going crazy right now. Some say it's God or TPTB, others Aliens, etc, etc. Regardless of your beliefs, unless you are completely blind, you have to see that things are a changin' and we are about to go on the ride of our lives...
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Ok, so, two weeks ago I started a thread entitled "W.t.f." that summed up the ongoing ridiculously strange happenings of the time. I didn't think I would be posting one again anytime soon , as I thought that things could not possibly get weirder. Could it? I pose to you this:

1) Christopher Dorner, allegedly cornered in a cabin in the woods after allegedly being caught with a stolen vehicle from a family he allegedly tied up after allegedly writing an alleged manifesto and starting a one man war vs the LAPD was allegedly murdered by being burned to death by police, with, yeah you know, all the evidence of the scene destroyed.

2) the Pontiff of the Vatican, becomes the first pope in nearly 600 years to step down from the papacy. ?????????????

3) it just so happens that on the same day we were to experience a close fly by of the 2012AD14 meteor with NO danger to Earth (per NASA) that the largest known meteorite to effect Earth in 100+ years airburst above Russia, injuring 1100 humans and damaging countless building structures

4) to no surprise, the very same NASA who said there was no danger, claimed that the two were unrelated!. I've done some very rough math on this and the odds of these being unrelated are about, oh, 1/900000000 or so based on both occurrences allegedly being 100 year happenings which is pretty conservative.

5) in a state of the union address to the nation, the main focus of a President of this country was the removal of more of the rights that were granted to us by the Constitution of these United States of America.???

6) news comes out that the CIA Director , nominated by the King, is in fact a Muslim?

7) Oscar Pistorius, a double amputee Olympian hero whom many cheered on and revered, murders his wife in cold blood?

8) North Korea actively testing nukes, and continuing to threaten an armada that could easily wipe it off the planet in a twinkling of an eye?

9) Congress actually discussing the use of drones domestically and he King wanting a major increase in their usage above our skies???

I ask you, GLP brethren, W.t.f.

I'm sure there are more I have missed, you're more than welcome to add to this list. We live in a WTF world, GLP.
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Weekly recap of CNN?

Is that all you have seen? All you have heard?

How many children were murdered without you knowing? How many people falsely imprisoned? No wtf for them, no, wtf for CNN weekly recap.

You guys are stuck in a loop, enjoy.
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metaphysical weirdness...in fact, it's almost as if the metaphysical is making itself more notoriously known by the day...


...maybe the timewave graph just shows novelty until it goes off the charts? There could, and undoubtedly are, more and more 'metaphysical' significances happening and going unnoticed every hour, minute, etc...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1271534


Yes, this. What could be causing this? Ideas? Natural cycles?
 Quoting: TheTruthMonger


my assertion is 'consciousness' causes everything...all kinds of consciousness...determinism mixed with "free will"...hard to describe without starting a philosophical debate. I'd be opening to finding out anything in terms of natural cycles and "determinism" though. My belief(s) have personally always been that we are creating physical reality as we go. So, when the pope goes bye bye, we are all, on some level in agreement with his decision, or the reasons behind it. just my 2cents hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1271534


Hmm, if true, that makes us quite powerful if we can agree as a species on anything. But something or someone is making that difficult, no?
 Quoting: TheTruthMonger



to be clear I am not saying a "conscious" agreement, but 'unconscious'...it's rather like we are actors playing out parts...we all know the truth of every situation, yet we take sides in order to prove points / stand for something in 3D reality
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Ok, so, two weeks ago I started a thread entitled "W.t.f." that summed up the ongoing ridiculously strange happenings of the time. I didn't think I would be posting one again anytime soon , as I thought that things could not possibly get weirder. Could it? I pose to you this:

1) Christopher Dorner, allegedly cornered in a cabin in the woods after allegedly being caught with a stolen vehicle from a family he allegedly tied up after allegedly writing an alleged manifesto and starting a one man war vs the LAPD was allegedly murdered by being burned to death by police, with, yeah you know, all the evidence of the scene destroyed.

2) the Pontiff of the Vatican, becomes the first pope in nearly 600 years to step down from the papacy. ?????????????

3) it just so happens that on the same day we were to experience a close fly by of the 2012AD14 meteor with NO danger to Earth (per NASA) that the largest known meteorite to effect Earth in 100+ years airburst above Russia, injuring 1100 humans and damaging countless building structures

4) to no surprise, the very same NASA who said there was no danger, claimed that the two were unrelated!. I've done some very rough math on this and the odds of these being unrelated are about, oh, 1/900000000 or so based on both occurrences allegedly being 100 year happenings which is pretty conservative.

5) in a state of the union address to the nation, the main focus of a President of this country was the removal of more of the rights that were granted to us by the Constitution of these United States of America.???

6) news comes out that the CIA Director , nominated by the King, is in fact a Muslim?

7) Oscar Pistorius, a double amputee Olympian hero whom many cheered on and revered, murders his wife in cold blood?

8) North Korea actively testing nukes, and continuing to threaten an armada that could easily wipe it off the planet in a twinkling of an eye?

9) Congress actually discussing the use of drones domestically and he King wanting a major increase in their usage above our skies???

I ask you, GLP brethren, W.t.f.

I'm sure there are more I have missed, you're more than welcome to add to this list. We live in a WTF world, GLP.
 Quoting: TheTruthMonger



Weekly recap of CNN?

Is that all you have seen? All you have heard?

How many children were murdered without you knowing? How many people falsely imprisoned? No wtf for them, no, wtf for CNN weekly recap.

You guys are stuck in a loop, enjoy.
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Did you miss the last sentence? If you know about more, please add the information so we can also know it.

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- drones being used in the US rapidly becomes part of the national discussion in a clearly concerted fashion. Nominated CIA director Brennan refusal the answer the questions about drone use in the US.

- opposition VIP's killing themselves or suffering otherwise strange deaths in the US, from the gun realm to the DC madam

- hostess cakes no longer being made!

- deadly drug Marijuana being made legal for use

- Aliens controlling the governments and news agencies of the world
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34464973


Huh? How so?
 Quoting: Sol Neman


- CIA 'offings'

-"metaphysical weirdness" showing itself in novel ways under the most unexpected of circumstances

-MJ is not deadly, but it's growing acceptance is very novel, particularly in the US.

-look up "archons"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1271534


It's deadly because it's illegal. If it weren't illegal the CIA would have no reason to 'off' anything. Same goes for every other alphabet agency out there.

Not sure what you mean by 'metaphysical weirdness.' I can't say that I've ever experienced that...I've craved pizza or other munchies and forgot what I was saying or thinking a lot, but 'metaphysical weirdness' not so much.

'Growing acceptance is novel?' This so called 'evil plant' has been domesticated for thousands of years, only in the last 100 or so years has it become 'evil.'

What about the 'archons'? That's just an ancient name for what we now call the elite or TPTB...nothing has changed, we're still slaves that we were centuries and millenia ago. Nobody is truly free...
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I was answering the former post point by point. Only Nr 3 was about MJ. Lay the bong down already bonghit
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Yes, this. What could be causing this? Ideas? Natural cycles?
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my assertion is 'consciousness' causes everything...all kinds of consciousness...determinism mixed with "free will"...hard to describe without starting a philosophical debate. I'd be opening to finding out anything in terms of natural cycles and "determinism" though. My belief(s) have personally always been that we are creating physical reality as we go. So, when the pope goes bye bye, we are all, on some level in agreement with his decision, or the reasons behind it. just my 2cents hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1271534


Hmm, if true, that makes us quite powerful if we can agree as a species on anything. But something or someone is making that difficult, no?
 Quoting: TheTruthMonger



to be clear I am not saying a "conscious" agreement, but 'unconscious'...it's rather like we are actors playing out parts...we all know the truth of every situation, yet we take sides in order to prove points / stand for something in 3D reality
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So, you're saying our reality , which is created by us, is not within our control?
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Ok, so, two weeks ago I started a thread entitled "W.t.f." that summed up the ongoing ridiculously strange happenings of the time. I didn't think I would be posting one again anytime soon , as I thought that things could not possibly get weirder. Could it? I pose to you this:

1) Christopher Dorner, allegedly cornered in a cabin in the woods after allegedly being caught with a stolen vehicle from a family he allegedly tied up after allegedly writing an alleged manifesto and starting a one man war vs the LAPD was allegedly murdered by being burned to death by police, with, yeah you know, all the evidence of the scene destroyed.

2) the Pontiff of the Vatican, becomes the first pope in nearly 600 years to step down from the papacy. ?????????????

3) it just so happens that on the same day we were to experience a close fly by of the 2012AD14 meteor with NO danger to Earth (per NASA) that the largest known meteorite to effect Earth in 100+ years airburst above Russia, injuring 1100 humans and damaging countless building structures

4) to no surprise, the very same NASA who said there was no danger, claimed that the two were unrelated!. I've done some very rough math on this and the odds of these being unrelated are about, oh, 1/900000000 or so based on both occurrences allegedly being 100 year happenings which is pretty conservative.

5) in a state of the union address to the nation, the main focus of a President of this country was the removal of more of the rights that were granted to us by the Constitution of these United States of America.???

6) news comes out that the CIA Director , nominated by the King, is in fact a Muslim?

7) Oscar Pistorius, a double amputee Olympian hero whom many cheered on and revered, murders his wife in cold blood?

8) North Korea actively testing nukes, and continuing to threaten an armada that could easily wipe it off the planet in a twinkling of an eye?

9) Congress actually discussing the use of drones domestically and he King wanting a major increase in their usage above our skies???

I ask you, GLP brethren, W.t.f.

I'm sure there are more I have missed, you're more than welcome to add to this list. We live in a WTF world, GLP.
 Quoting: TheTruthMonger



Weekly recap of CNN?

Is that all you have seen? All you have heard?

How many children were murdered without you knowing? How many people falsely imprisoned? No wtf for them, no, wtf for CNN weekly recap.

You guys are stuck in a loop, enjoy.
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Did you miss the last sentence? If you know about more, please add the information so we can also know it.
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Yes! Yes! Thanks
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Ok, so, two weeks ago I started a thread entitled "W.t.f." that summed up the ongoing ridiculously strange happenings of the time. I didn't think I would be posting one again anytime soon , as I thought that things could not possibly get weirder. Could it? I pose to you this:

1) Christopher Dorner, allegedly cornered in a cabin in the woods after allegedly being caught with a stolen vehicle from a family he allegedly tied up after allegedly writing an alleged manifesto and starting a one man war vs the LAPD was allegedly murdered by being burned to death by police, with, yeah you know, all the evidence of the scene destroyed.

2) the Pontiff of the Vatican, becomes the first pope in nearly 600 years to step down from the papacy. ?????????????

3) it just so happens that on the same day we were to experience a close fly by of the 2012AD14 meteor with NO danger to Earth (per NASA) that the largest known meteorite to effect Earth in 100+ years airburst above Russia, injuring 1100 humans and damaging countless building structures

4) to no surprise, the very same NASA who said there was no danger, claimed that the two were unrelated!. I've done some very rough math on this and the odds of these being unrelated are about, oh, 1/900000000 or so based on both occurrences allegedly being 100 year happenings which is pretty conservative.

5) in a state of the union address to the nation, the main focus of a President of this country was the removal of more of the rights that were granted to us by the Constitution of these United States of America.???

6) news comes out that the CIA Director , nominated by the King, is in fact a Muslim?

7) Oscar Pistorius, a double amputee Olympian hero whom many cheered on and revered, murders his wife in cold blood?

8) North Korea actively testing nukes, and continuing to threaten an armada that could easily wipe it off the planet in a twinkling of an eye?

9) Congress actually discussing the use of drones domestically and he King wanting a major increase in their usage above our skies???

I ask you, GLP brethren, W.t.f.

I'm sure there are more I have missed, you're more than welcome to add to this list. We live in a WTF world, GLP.
 Quoting: TheTruthMonger


I'm confused on why someone being a Muslim is such an issue. Do you not realize none of us are native to this country except native Americans? America is a melting pot. And this way of thinking is on its way to e tin cation. Poor you and your ignorance. wtf
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Ok, so, two weeks ago I started a thread entitled "W.t.f." that summed up the ongoing ridiculously strange happenings of the time. I didn't think I would be posting one again anytime soon , as I thought that things could not possibly get weirder. Could it? I pose to you this:

1) Christopher Dorner, allegedly cornered in a cabin in the woods after allegedly being caught with a stolen vehicle from a family he allegedly tied up after allegedly writing an alleged manifesto and starting a one man war vs the LAPD was allegedly murdered by being burned to death by police, with, yeah you know, all the evidence of the scene destroyed.

2) the Pontiff of the Vatican, becomes the first pope in nearly 600 years to step down from the papacy. ?????????????

3) it just so happens that on the same day we were to experience a close fly by of the 2012AD14 meteor with NO danger to Earth (per NASA) that the largest known meteorite to effect Earth in 100+ years airburst above Russia, injuring 1100 humans and damaging countless building structures

4) to no surprise, the very same NASA who said there was no danger, claimed that the two were unrelated!. I've done some very rough math on this and the odds of these being unrelated are about, oh, 1/900000000 or so based on both occurrences allegedly being 100 year happenings which is pretty conservative.

5) in a state of the union address to the nation, the main focus of a President of this country was the removal of more of the rights that were granted to us by the Constitution of these United States of America.???

6) news comes out that the CIA Director , nominated by the King, is in fact a Muslim?

7) Oscar Pistorius, a double amputee Olympian hero whom many cheered on and revered, murders his wife in cold blood?

8) North Korea actively testing nukes, and continuing to threaten an armada that could easily wipe it off the planet in a twinkling of an eye?

9) Congress actually discussing the use of drones domestically and he King wanting a major increase in their usage above our skies???

I ask you, GLP brethren, W.t.f.

I'm sure there are more I have missed, you're more than welcome to add to this list. We live in a WTF world, GLP.
 Quoting: TheTruthMonger



Weekly recap of CNN?

Is that all you have seen? All you have heard?

How many children were murdered without you knowing? How many people falsely imprisoned? No wtf for them, no, wtf for CNN weekly recap.

You guys are stuck in a loop, enjoy.
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Did you miss the last sentence? If you know about more, please add the information so we can also know it.
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To do what exactly with those bits of information?

Draw baseless conclusions like the OP has done already?

You missed the point of my post anyhow.
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Can I see your Maths on this?
With 8,880 NEOs and an impact even of this size happening every 30 years. I don't see how you get so random and high odds of this being a coincident.
 Quoting: Xertious


My disclaimer is there that it is rough math. You're more than welcome to disagree and come up with alternative data. My conjecture is that, if these two events are not linked, as NASA states, the odds are astronomically small that they occurred on the same day. A 17,000 mile fly by of a half football field asteroid coupled with the largest known meteorite to affect Earth since Tunguska being separate events is a joke. Probability of either seperately is 1/30000 days , squared if independent per elementary probability calculations. You can change the odds of either but the calculation of them being unrelated happenings would be astronomical in any case.
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Its actually more like 3/4000 chance of happening together.
One of these meteors (15m) hits earth once every 30 years.
One of these asteroids pass earth once every 40 years.
 Quoting: Xertious


Ok I can go with your premise but not your solution.

That's more like 1/9000 x 1/16000 if they are independent events occurring on The same day. I'm not sure where you got 3/4000.
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Probability of event A (meteorite hitting earth) 1/30 0.0333333
Probability of event B (NEO of that size) 1/40 0.025

P(A ∩ B) = P(A) x P(B)
P(0.03) x P(0.025) = 0.03 x 0.025 = 0.00075 = 75/100000 = 3/4000
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Hanford Radioactive Leak all of sudden in Washington State. Hello plutonium so nice to see you.
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5) in a state of the union address to the nation, the main focus of a President of this country was the removal of more of our inalienable rights granted to us by the Constitution of these United States of America.???
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Inalienable rights aren't granted to people by the Constitution or any man or any document. They are inherent rights endowed to every human being upon birth.
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I think it is VERY important to note that the Constitution does not "grant" the inalienable rights, but rather "enumerates" and "recognizes" these inalienable rights, which are granted to every human being at birth, by The Creator, God.

I think understanding this point makes it so much more egregious what Obama and the politicians in the Federal government are doing.
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The world is getting weirder and us humans seem to ask less questions......it's out of our hands we just have hold on and enjoy the ride
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I fully agree, but we need to try at least... isn't that part of the human psyche.. the part they want to oppress?

Anyone taking necessary precautions at this times?
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Ok, so, two weeks ago I started a thread entitled "W.t.f." that summed up the ongoing ridiculously strange happenings of the time. I didn't think I would be posting one again anytime soon , as I thought that things could not possibly get weirder. Could it? I pose to you this:

1) Christopher Dorner, allegedly cornered in a cabin in the woods after allegedly being caught with a stolen vehicle from a family he allegedly tied up after allegedly writing an alleged manifesto and starting a one man war vs the LAPD was allegedly murdered by being burned to death by police, with, yeah you know, all the evidence of the scene destroyed.

2) the Pontiff of the Vatican, becomes the first pope in nearly 600 years to step down from the papacy. ?????????????

3) it just so happens that on the same day we were to experience a close fly by of the 2012AD14 meteor with NO danger to Earth (per NASA) that the largest known meteorite to effect Earth in 100+ years airburst above Russia, injuring 1100 humans and damaging countless building structures

4) to no surprise, the very same NASA who said there was no danger, claimed that the two were unrelated!. I've done some very rough math on this and the odds of these being unrelated are about, oh, 1/900000000 or so based on both occurrences allegedly being 100 year happenings which is pretty conservative.

5) in a state of the union address to the nation, the main focus of a President of this country was the removal of more of the rights that were granted to us by the Constitution of these United States of America.???

6) news comes out that the CIA Director , nominated by the King, is in fact a Muslim?

7) Oscar Pistorius, a double amputee Olympian hero whom many cheered on and revered, murders his wife in cold blood?

8) North Korea actively testing nukes, and continuing to threaten an armada that could easily wipe it off the planet in a twinkling of an eye?

9) Congress actually discussing the use of drones domestically and he King wanting a major increase in their usage above our skies???

I ask you, GLP brethren, W.t.f.

I'm sure there are more I have missed, you're more than welcome to add to this list. We live in a WTF world, GLP.
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I'm confused on why someone being a Muslim is such an issue. Do you not realize none of us are native to this country except native Americans? America is a melting pot. And this way of thinking is on its way to e tin cation. Poor you and your ignorance. wtf
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Not saying that its wrong, just saying that its strange that this news seems to be a hidden fact. You're the one assuming things.
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My disclaimer is there that it is rough math. You're more than welcome to disagree and come up with alternative data. My conjecture is that, if these two events are not linked, as NASA states, the odds are astronomically small that they occurred on the same day. A 17,000 mile fly by of a half football field asteroid coupled with the largest known meteorite to affect Earth since Tunguska being separate events is a joke. Probability of either seperately is 1/30000 days , squared if independent per elementary probability calculations. You can change the odds of either but the calculation of them being unrelated happenings would be astronomical in any case.
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Its actually more like 3/4000 chance of happening together.
One of these meteors (15m) hits earth once every 30 years.
One of these asteroids pass earth once every 40 years.
 Quoting: Xertious


Ok I can go with your premise but not your solution.

That's more like 1/9000 x 1/16000 if they are independent events occurring on The same day. I'm not sure where you got 3/4000.
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Probability of event A (meteorite hitting earth) 1/30 0.0333333
Probability of event B (NEO of that size) 1/40 0.025

P(A &#8745; B) = P(A) x P(B)
P(0.03) x P(0.025) = 0.03 x 0.025 = 0.00075 = 75/100000 = 3/4000
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Nice , but uh, your probability calculation is per year. Mine is per DAY which is what ACTUALLY happened. Multiply your number above by 1/365.25
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- drones being used in the US rapidly becomes part of the national discussion in a clearly concerted fashion. Nominated CIA director Brennan refusal the answer the questions about drone use in the US.

- opposition VIP's killing themselves or suffering otherwise strange deaths in the US, from the gun realm to the DC madam

- hostess cakes no longer being made!

- deadly drug Marijuana being made legal for use

- Aliens controlling the governments and news agencies of the world
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Did you say deadly drug Marijuana?
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DANGER!
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Because, as we all look, and know it's all a bunch of BS, but we all still just sit here reading these agreements with each other and do NOTHING about it.
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Ok, so, two weeks ago I started a thread entitled "W.t.f." that summed up the ongoing ridiculously strange happenings of the time. I didn't think I would be posting one again anytime soon , as I thought that things could not possibly get weirder. Could it? I pose to you this:

1) Christopher Dorner, allegedly cornered in a cabin in the woods after allegedly being caught with a stolen vehicle from a family he allegedly tied up after allegedly writing an alleged manifesto and starting a one man war vs the LAPD was allegedly murdered by being burned to death by police, with, yeah you know, all the evidence of the scene destroyed.

2) the Pontiff of the Vatican, becomes the first pope in nearly 600 years to step down from the papacy. ?????????????

3) it just so happens that on the same day we were to experience a close fly by of the 2012AD14 meteor with NO danger to Earth (per NASA) that the largest known meteorite to effect Earth in 100+ years airburst above Russia, injuring 1100 humans and damaging countless building structures

4) to no surprise, the very same NASA who said there was no danger, claimed that the two were unrelated!. I've done some very rough math on this and the odds of these being unrelated are about, oh, 1/900000000 or so based on both occurrences allegedly being 100 year happenings which is pretty conservative.

5) in a state of the union address to the nation, the main focus of a President of this country was the removal of more of the rights that were granted to us by the Constitution of these United States of America.???

6) news comes out that the CIA Director , nominated by the King, is in fact a Muslim?

7) Oscar Pistorius, a double amputee Olympian hero whom many cheered on and revered, murders his wife in cold blood?

8) North Korea actively testing nukes, and continuing to threaten an armada that could easily wipe it off the planet in a twinkling of an eye?

9) Congress actually discussing the use of drones domestically and he King wanting a major increase in their usage above our skies???

I ask you, GLP brethren, W.t.f.

I'm sure there are more I have missed, you're more than welcome to add to this list. We live in a WTF world, GLP.
 Quoting: TheTruthMonger



Weekly recap of CNN?

Is that all you have seen? All you have heard?

How many children were murdered without you knowing? How many people falsely imprisoned? No wtf for them, no, wtf for CNN weekly recap.

You guys are stuck in a loop, enjoy.
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Did you miss the last sentence? If you know about more, please add the information so we can also know it.
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To do what exactly with those bits of information?

Draw baseless conclusions like the OP has done already?

You missed the point of my post anyhow.
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So we can be as smart as you!

That way we can troll forums and add absolutely nothing to the conversation when we decide to reply.

Your point was to look beyond what is put in front of you and to not accept everything that you read or hear at face value.

Rather than ridicule someone for not knowing about certain things; maybe you can add to the conversation by telling us the information you have.
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