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WHY cant an atheist stand a theist in an argument.

 
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WHY cant an atheist stand a theist in an argument.
"You are a moron"
"You are an idiot"

"You are ignorant"

Is that what you have to say to make your point?

It's an argument not a medical or psychological diagnosis.

Just make your point, insults achieve nothing. Another reason why the theist will never want to be atheist.

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You could make your point clear and still be polite.
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I'll give you in this thread to prove that your sky wizard is wrong. Go ahead, win this argument.
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Re: WHY cant an atheist stand a theist in an argument.
what the hell is a theist?

You're an idiot. Only god is dumber than you because she created you.
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what the hell is a theist?

You're an idiot. Only god is dumber than you because she created you.
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You just confirmed it.
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what the hell is a theist?

You're an idiot. Only god is dumber than you because she created you.
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You just confirmed it.
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Forget him/her. Answer me. Why shouldn't I be an atheist. What proof do you have of a paranormal entity creating everything.
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Re: WHY cant an atheist stand a theist in an argument.
what the hell is a theist?

You're an idiot. Only god is dumber than you because she created you.
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You just confirmed it.
clappa
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Forget him/her. Answer me. Why shouldn't I be an atheist. What proof do you have of a paranormal entity creating everything.
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The most important things in life are those that you cannot see or detect with your 5 senses. You need to pay attention to them to sense them. God, satan and illuminati have all been mentioned countless times in your lifetime. Do you think any of these exist?

I will continue from your answer?
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when you answer involves a spaghetti monster in the sky

"youre a moron"
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Re: WHY cant an atheist stand a theist in an argument.
what the hell is a theist?

You're an idiot. Only god is dumber than you because she created you.
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You just confirmed it.
clappa
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Forget him/her. Answer me. Why shouldn't I be an atheist. What proof do you have of a paranormal entity creating everything.
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The most important things in life are those that you cannot see or detect with your 5 senses. You need to pay attention to them to sense them. God, satan and illuminati have all been mentioned countless times in your lifetime. Do you think any of these exist?

I will continue from your answer?
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We have built machines that can detect those things which our senses cannot detect. But if there is no evidence to support something, why should I believe it.

If I told you that in my basement there is a trunk with a million dollars in it for you, would you believe me on faith without setting eyes on the crate or having some other evidence?
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We have built machines that can detect those things which our senses cannot detect. But if there is no evidence to support something, why should I believe it.

If I told you that in my basement there is a trunk with a million dollars in it for you, would you believe me on faith without setting eyes on the crate or having some other evidence?
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I wanted to prove to you that there is a part of life that machines and our knowledge cannot comprehend, so it sounds so ridiculous to think they exist.

Give me which of these that you think exist and let me show you how they are all linked.


God, satan and Illuminati.

We will get somewhere if you let me know what you know.
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We have built machines that can detect those things which our senses cannot detect. But if there is no evidence to support something, why should I believe it.

If I told you that in my basement there is a trunk with a million dollars in it for you, would you believe me on faith without setting eyes on the crate or having some other evidence?
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I wanted to prove to you that there is a part of life that machines and our knowledge cannot comprehend, so it sounds so ridiculous to think they exist.

Give me which of these that you think exist and let me show you how they are all linked.


God, satan and Illuminati.

We will get somewhere if you let me know what you know.
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You didn't prove it. You just stated it. I'm asking for the proof.

As far as your list goes
God = No evidence
Satan = No evidence
Illuminati = No good evidence
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Re: WHY cant an atheist stand a theist in an argument.
You didn't prove it. You just stated it. I'm asking for the proof.

As far as your list goes
God = No evidence
Satan = No evidence
Illuminati = No good evidence
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there are different levels of atheism that i know of. Those that think all 3 dont exist. Some think God and satan dont exist but illuminati does exist.

I wanted to know which kind that you are before i will know what evidence to give you.
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Re: WHY cant an atheist stand a theist in an argument.
You didn't prove it. You just stated it. I'm asking for the proof.

As far as your list goes
God = No evidence
Satan = No evidence
Illuminati = No good evidence
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there are different levels of atheism that i know of. Those that think all 3 dont exist. Some think God and satan dont exist but illuminati does exist.

I wanted to know which kind that you are before i will know what evidence to give you.
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Well if you know now I am curious to hear your evidence.
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Re: WHY cant an atheist stand a theist in an argument.
You didn't prove it. You just stated it. I'm asking for the proof.

As far as your list goes
God = No evidence
Satan = No evidence
Illuminati = No good evidence
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there are different levels of atheism that i know of. Those that think all 3 dont exist. Some think God and satan dont exist but illuminati does exist.

I wanted to know which kind that you are before i will know what evidence to give you.
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Well if you know now I am curious to hear your evidence.
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We will start from illuminati. Do you know about your country? Do you know who prints your money and why those who print your money are actually individuals outside your government, yet they control your government. Do you know why most of your Presidents are related? Do you know why the independent candidates get zero coverage on popular tv channels yet the 2 political parties are presented like they are your only choice.

Because there is powerful group behind your government who runs this world.

Need more?
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Re: WHY cant an atheist stand a theist in an argument.
You didn't prove it. You just stated it. I'm asking for the proof.

As far as your list goes
God = No evidence
Satan = No evidence
Illuminati = No good evidence
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there are different levels of atheism that i know of. Those that think all 3 dont exist. Some think God and satan dont exist but illuminati does exist.

I wanted to know which kind that you are before i will know what evidence to give you.
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Well if you know now I am curious to hear your evidence.
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We will start from illuminati. Do you know about your country? Do you know who prints your money and why those who print your money are actually individuals outside your government, yet they control your government. Do you know why most of your Presidents are related? Do you know why the independent candidates get zero coverage on popular tv channels yet the 2 political parties are presented like they are your only choice.

Because there is powerful group behind your government who runs this world.

Need more?
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I know some about my country, but I'm always willing to learn more.

Money is printed by the Bureau of Engraving and Printing in Washington DC. They also have an office in Fort Worth Texas.

I can only think of two sets of Presidents that are related. But I imagine that being the son of a President would make becoming a president much easier. Much like how Ozzy's daughter wouldn't have been given a chance to even start up her failed music career without her father being Ozzy Osbourne. Never underestimate the power of notoriety.

And I know there are some scrubs that also run for president. But why should the media put any attention on a gaggle of people that a couple hundred people are going to throw their votes away on?
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Re: WHY cant an atheist stand a theist in an argument.
I know some about my country, but I'm always willing to learn more.

Money is printed by the Bureau of Engraving and Printing in Washington DC. They also have an office in Fort Worth Texas.

I can only think of two sets of Presidents that are related. But I imagine that being the son of a President would make becoming a president much easier. Much like how Ozzy's daughter wouldn't have been given a chance to even start up her failed music career without her father being Ozzy Osbourne. Never underestimate the power of notoriety.

And I know there are some scrubs that also run for president. But why should the media put any attention on a gaggle of people that a couple hundred people are going to throw their votes away on?
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I thought you lived in a democratic society, and equal airtime should be allotted to each candidate as long as they qualify.

As why every President you elect does exact opposite of what they told voters they will do. Maybe those you thought were gaggle of people will help fix your economy.

Right, read about the Federal Reserve and why they are a private company.

Regarding your presidents being related, watch this.

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I know some about my country, but I'm always willing to learn more.

Money is printed by the Bureau of Engraving and Printing in Washington DC. They also have an office in Fort Worth Texas.

I can only think of two sets of Presidents that are related. But I imagine that being the son of a President would make becoming a president much easier. Much like how Ozzy's daughter wouldn't have been given a chance to even start up her failed music career without her father being Ozzy Osbourne. Never underestimate the power of notoriety.

And I know there are some scrubs that also run for president. But why should the media put any attention on a gaggle of people that a couple hundred people are going to throw their votes away on?
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I thought you lived in a democratic society, and equal airtime should be allotted to each candidate as long as they qualify.

As why every President you elect does exact opposite of what they told voters they will do. Maybe those you thought were gaggle of people will help fix your economy.

Right, read about the Federal Reserve and why they are a private company.

Regarding your presidents being related, watch this.


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Interesting video. But really you can put ties between two people fairly easily, especially the further back you go. I'm a descendant of Daniel Boone. But for all we know you and I could be 9th cousins. So that is really moot.

Being democratic doesn't mean equal airtime could or should be allotted to any scrub who declares himself running for president from his trailer park.

And it is probably a good thing that the government can't control the Federal Reserve. One less thing for them to fuck up.
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Interesting video. But really you can put ties between two people fairly easily, especially the further back you go. I'm a descendant of Daniel Boone. But for all we know you and I could be 9th cousins. So that is really moot.

Being democratic doesn't mean equal airtime could or should be allotted to any scrub who declares himself running for president from his trailer park.

And it is probably a good thing that the government can't control the Federal Reserve. One less thing for them to fuck up.
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Favorite this thread if you want us to continue. Its very late here.
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Favorite this thread if you want us to continue. Its very late here.
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How did this thread turn from atheists not knowing how to debate into some Englishman wanting to look down on the American populace?

Strange transition.
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Favorite this thread if you want us to continue. Its very late here.
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How did this thread turn from atheists not knowing how to debate into some Englishman wanting to look down on the American populace?

Strange transition.
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I'm trusting that the OP will be able to pull this around full circle. But regardless I'm hoping to put to rest some of his assumptions about atheists.
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Favorite this thread if you want us to continue. Its very late here.
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How did this thread turn from atheists not knowing how to debate into some Englishman wanting to look down on the American populace?

Strange transition.
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I'm trusting that the OP will be able to pull this around full circle. But regardless I'm hoping to put to rest some of his assumptions about atheists.
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Right on. Another day. I will guide you to see what you have been ignoring. I will prove to you the illuminati exists. Once that is established. Then i will prove to you that they worship satan. Then you will see why God exists. Reply to continue.
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The word "theist" can incorporate anything from a Deist who tends to believe that there is some sort of Universal Intelligence, to someone who believes in a whole detailed pantheon of Divinity, Son of Divinity, Extension of Divinity, Saints, miracles, Formula of Worship, Rituals, special diets, ceremonies, etc, etc, etc.

Lumping all "theists" together is not all that sensible.

Intellectually, a Deist has much or in common with agnostics and atheists, than an Deist has in common with most faiths and denominations of Theists.
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The word "theist" can incorporate anything from a Deist who tends to believe that there is some sort of Universal Intelligence, to someone who believes in a whole detailed pantheon of Divinity, Son of Divinity, Extension of Divinity, Saints, miracles, Formula of Worship, Rituals, special diets, ceremonies, etc, etc, etc.

Lumping all "theists" together is not all that sensible.

Intellectually, a Deist has much or in common with agnostics and atheists, than an Deist has in common with most faiths and denominations of Theists.
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In this case, am a Christian. And we are talking about God. Am still a theist.
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Well most Religions are Blackmailers, does not matter how good you are and kind and what good things you do, when you´re not willing to join them and believe, you´ll burn in hell, get fucked by tentacle monsters, be reborn as a cockroach or what fucking stupid medieval believe what will happen ever.

And that is one of the many reasons that makes the whole Religion thing a total fuck up and those who go bonkers against non believers the biggest hypocrites not understanding the teachings of their own Religion, like "Don't do unto others what you would not have done unto you.", and that makes all those non believer bashers total fuck nuggets.

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Well most Religions are Blackmailers, does not matter how good you are and kind and what good things you do, when you´re not willing to join them and believe, you´ll burn in hell, get fucked by tentacle monsters, be reborn as a cockroach or what fucking stupid medieval believe what will happen ever.

And that is one of the many reasons that makes the whole Religion thing a total fuck up and those who go bonkers against non believers the biggest hypocrites not understanding the teachings of their own Religion, like "Don't do unto others what you would not have done unto you.", and that makes all those non believer bashers total fuck nuggets.
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Christianity isn't there to scare or persuade you. Once you understand the world you live in, the problems, the changes, the secret societies and their satanic worship,etc...then you uncover hidden things that TV and mainstream books have tried to prevent us from knowing.

You will find out that Heaven and hell are real. Its like the laws of your country. If you break them, you get punished. You get rewarded by having your freedom. But the laws in the bible is more of morality. Jesus summed it into 2.

Loving God and anyone around you, including your enemies, as well as believing in Jesus that He has paid the ultimate price. That's all.

Lots of christians are doing a disservice to the religion. I understand that, and that is also part of the devil's way of keeping people away from the truth.
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Indoctrination from the cradle, fear and scare tactics (including that blackmailing, Join and live in paradise, or do not join and burn in hell), not practicing what is preached etc.

No seriously, FUCK RELIGION!

Mark 16:16(Jesus speaking)
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

John 3:18
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

John 3:36
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

1 John 2:22-23
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Heb 3:12
Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.

Prov 1:7
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

2 Cor 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness.

2 Thes 1:6-9
Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;
And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Gal 1:9
As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

2 Cor 10:5-6
Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

Rev 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

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Re: WHY cant an atheist stand a theist in an argument.
Theist (I think theist means just someone who believes there is god?) or religitard ? Cause religitards follow religions and that means they are narrow-minded fools who refuse to think, especially outside the box.
That's what so many people can't stand and makes them ultra-angry
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Re: WHY cant an atheist stand a theist in an argument.
Indoctrination from the cradle, fear and scare tactics (including that blackmailing, Join and live in paradise, or do not join and burn in hell), not practicing what is preached etc.

No seriously, FUCK RELIGION!

Mark 16:16(Jesus speaking)
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

John 3:18
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

John 3:36
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

1 John 2:22-23
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Heb 3:12
Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.

Prov 1:7
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

2 Cor 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness.

2 Thes 1:6-9
Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;
And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Gal 1:9
As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

2 Cor 10:5-6
Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

Rev 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
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But have you read the laws of your country about
Theft, murder, lying in court or pergury, harassment, kidnapping, etc.

Will you be left alone if you commit any of these crimes?

Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

Revelation 22:12
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.


So you see its a court system, you will see the evidence of your judgement yourself. Its not torture for no reason but your actions.

Think of it this way, when manufacturers make things and they fail quality test, it gets destroyed. We are God's creation and we need to pass quality test.
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Theist (I think theist means just someone who believes there is god?) or religitard ? Cause religitards follow religions and that means they are narrow-minded fools who refuse to think, especially outside the box.
That's what so many people can't stand and makes them ultra-angry
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On the contrary, i see these outbursts as evidence of frustration. You just don't understand why anyone cannot think they way you do.

Some of us pay attention to every detail of changes in life. Last year, there were countless times that rivers and seas turned into red blood and mass animal deaths. You probably didn't notice or you didnt care. This year the pope resigned, meteors bashing Russia and Cuba as well as Obama going to Israel to try and sign a peace agreement.

These events cannot be ignored. Including 911, wars and rumours of ww3
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if all you have to defend religion is the bible, then i suspect you have no defence.

the bible is available to eveyone.. didn't ya know that? didn't ya consider that?

you will not find your necessary proof in the bible iself as that would be hearsay.

its all hearsay.

not one of you has original proof of your claims.

yet an atheist states this, a theist ignores this.
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if all you have to defend religion is the bible, then i suspect you have no defence.

the bible is available to eveyone.. didn't ya know that? didn't ya consider that?

you will not find your necessary proof in the bible iself as that would be hearsay.

its all hearsay.

not one of you has original proof of your claims.

yet an atheist states this, a theist ignores this.
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2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

god of this world being satan. Satan is worshiped all around you. Every country have masonic lodges everywhere. Have you considered what they do in there? All the tv shows, movies and season celebrations are satanic yet you find nothing wrong with it. Christmas and Halloween .

Now thats not a hearsay, i see it around me to believe.
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Re: WHY cant an atheist stand a theist in an argument.
when you answer involves a spaghetti monster in the sky

"youre a moron"
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jerkit

Only people such as yourself believe that 'God' is some 'alien' in the sky. Whackjob.

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