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Evolution was not proven true...until THIS.......I am SUCH the believer now- and you??

 
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lol.
another christian trying to be scientific.
still believing in Genesis.
Deuteronomy .
Leviticus .

crazy crazy stuff.

the amount of evidence supporting evolution is surmount.
if u cant find it your an idiot.


evolution is real.
we can literately bread out species until they cant copulate. that's the definition of species. ability to have sex and have offspring in succession

we can bread out moths far beyond that point for traits until they are literately classed a new species and unable to copulate with the original species


o and evolution has nothing to do with the origin or life.
if you are going to cling to any argument. your best chance is that.
but clearly you can be swayed by less then four minutes of easily refutable crap. so i guess thinking isnt your strong point
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you know that one,beauty is in the eye of the beholder?heh,man dont stress yourself,you will not change someone with snap of a finger
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dude you are super delusional.. nobody have seen what you just said.
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..impacted the Earth through analysis of the geologic record?

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woah.. geologic record? as if earth rocks and ice has timestamp records in it.. duh..
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The ice core samples that contain cosmic dust/debris that does not originate from Earth. There are means for establishing reference points of geologic time through analysis of the samples:
[link to www.talkorigins.org]

Did you come for an open & honest discussion or just to babble whatever nonsense comes to mind?

1dunno1

You see I don't believe in the traditional theory of evolution transpiring across millions of years at a painstakenly slow & gradual rate. I think it's far more likely that cosmic radiation has (over short periods of time) caused the rapid genetic mutation of living organisms and these events (which we know have occurred) have served as the catalyst for the variation that we observe amongst species over time. The Universe is going about it's business the way it was designed to do. Nothing remains unchanged forever, not even humans. Everything is in a constant state of change, however our limited perception and man-made creations like 'time' often cloud our awareness.
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Hahaha talkorgins.org here's your answer..

[link to www.trueorigin.org]
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So sad how delusional some people are. Even the shoes you have on feet didn't just explode into being someone had to create them yet y'all think all this just happened without a designer? You need help
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I doubt being dosed with cosmic radiation would have any good effects. I mean outside of comic book land that is.
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Life finds ways to adapt and survive.
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Genetic variation is a common phenomenon, perpetually manifesting itself as extant dominant and recessive genetic traits “appear” and “vanish” in successive generations within a population of organisms. A population’s adaptation through genetic variation is as much a fact of biological life as are genes themselves. Though some evolutionists like to call this phenomenon “micro-evolution,” the variations dictated by any gene pool are neither “new” traits, nor qualitative “changes” in the gene pool (as required for “macro-evolution”); their potential is already well-defined within the DNA of the population’s gene pool, and all possible changes (i.e., variations) within that population are limited specifically to those inherent traits.

[link to www.trueorigin.org]
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So sad how delusional some people are. Even the shoes you have on feet didn't just explode into being someone had to create them yet y'all think all this just happened without a designer? You need help
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Actually the shoes does form after an explosion from nuclear bomb.

^^^ The atheist kind of logic deserves monkey logic..
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Re: Evolution was not proven true...until THIS.......I am SUCH the believer now- and you??
I agree there is a use pain and suffering and the bible clearly states that God's called out believers will experience it at His hand for different reasons however there is much unnecessary suffering which the Maker wishes us to avoid. And the guide book is more than just about basic living, it also details His plan for His creation, and how he's accomplishing it and warnings about when it's fulfillment is near. All things which any parent would want their child to know no reason to leave them in the dark about their existence.
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I can respect your perceptive. I personally feel that religious texts throughout all of history share a common theme and for me it is that they been a product of various cultures of people attempting to conceptualize and explain that which they perceived to be God/Creator, or the higher power behind this Creation that we experience. But they do so on their own terms and that is always a product of the time period in which they live and the unique state of human consciousness & understanding that exists at that specific era of human development. We went from drawing pictures on cave walls to inventing complex forms of speech (communication), and now we live in a generation where one can have access to a nearly limitless database of knowledge/ & information at the touch of one's finger tips with advent of the internet.

Thousands of years ago an earthquake may have decimated an area and the peoples of that time might have attributed the event to the act of an angry God(s) (depending on the culture) sending them a message. Today we will experience the same event and understand that was a product of the geological design of the Earth (plate tectonics), which ultimately is a creation of a higher power but you can perceive how the context is different. The people of those times with their level of awareness might have perceived the EQ as a direct & intentional manipulation of their environment (like in the context of being a punishment) and then they find themselves sacrificing animals (and even humans) in an attempt to influence the God(s) not to produce such events/experiences. Different time period and thus a different level of understanding of this 'reality' we experience.

I feel that everyone who walks this Earth regardless of their beliefs will experience some form of pain & suffering during their time here. It may be through different experiences and take on different shapes & forms, but it's there and it serves to help refine the spirit and build character & conviction.

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Re: Evolution was not proven true...until THIS.......I am SUCH the believer now- and you??
I doubt being dosed with cosmic radiation would have any good effects. I mean outside of comic book land that is.
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Life finds ways to adapt and survive.
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Genetic variation is a common phenomenon, perpetually manifesting itself as extant dominant and recessive genetic traits “appear” and “vanish” in successive generations within a population of organisms. A population’s adaptation through genetic variation is as much a fact of biological life as are genes themselves. Though some evolutionists like to call this phenomenon “micro-evolution,” the variations dictated by any gene pool are neither “new” traits, nor qualitative “changes” in the gene pool (as required for “macro-evolution”); their potential is already well-defined within the DNA of the population’s gene pool, and all possible changes (i.e., variations) within that population are limited specifically to those inherent traits.

[link to www.trueorigin.org]
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You haven't posted any of your own thoughts in this discussion have you? I asked you what happens when living organisms are exposed to elevated levels of cosmic radiation that has inundated the Earth in the past. You've yet to supply me with an answer.

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Re: Evolution was not proven true...until THIS.......I am SUCH the believer now- and you??
I doubt being dosed with cosmic radiation would have any good effects. I mean outside of comic book land that is.
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Life finds ways to adapt and survive.
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Genetic variation is a common phenomenon, perpetually manifesting itself as extant dominant and recessive genetic traits “appear” and “vanish” in successive generations within a population of organisms. A population’s adaptation through genetic variation is as much a fact of biological life as are genes themselves. Though some evolutionists like to call this phenomenon “micro-evolution,” the variations dictated by any gene pool are neither “new” traits, nor qualitative “changes” in the gene pool (as required for “macro-evolution”); their potential is already well-defined within the DNA of the population’s gene pool, and all possible changes (i.e., variations) within that population are limited specifically to those inherent traits.

[link to www.trueorigin.org]
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You haven't posted any of your own thoughts in this discussion have you?
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yeah, i know post my own thoughts as if your thoughts are all original too?
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Re: Evolution was not proven true...until THIS.......I am SUCH the believer now- and you??
How to debate a creationist 101:

Creatards post something from their own thoughts, ask for links/proof, if they did have links/proof, reason out that the proof should be their own not from the links.

Nice technique man..
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Re: Evolution was not proven true...until THIS.......I am SUCH the believer now- and you??
Atheists really are that dumb, don't even know how to read other users response for the argument.

They should repent and bow down to the King of Kings, The Only GOD JESUS CHRIST.

Don't wait till it's too late.
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Re: Evolution was not proven true...until THIS.......I am SUCH the believer now- and you??
Evilution creationism = utter bullshit, if you believe either you are a blind twit.
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Evilution creationism = utter bullshit, if you believe either you are a blind twit.
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So you suppose everything is just an illusion/imagination?

look whose talking.
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Life finds ways to adapt and survive.
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Genetic variation is a common phenomenon, perpetually manifesting itself as extant dominant and recessive genetic traits “appear” and “vanish” in successive generations within a population of organisms. A population’s adaptation through genetic variation is as much a fact of biological life as are genes themselves. Though some evolutionists like to call this phenomenon “micro-evolution,” the variations dictated by any gene pool are neither “new” traits, nor qualitative “changes” in the gene pool (as required for “macro-evolution”); their potential is already well-defined within the DNA of the population’s gene pool, and all possible changes (i.e., variations) within that population are limited specifically to those inherent traits.

[link to www.trueorigin.org]
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You haven't posted any of your own thoughts in this discussion have you?
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yeah, i know post my own thoughts as if your thoughts are all original too?
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Well so far you've only ridiculed people in this thread and copy & pasted text that you did not author. Did you want to share your own perspective on the matter or just avoid having to do so?

I don't understand why Creationism & Evolution must be viewed as mutually exclusive concepts? The existence of one does not negate the existence of the other. If it was part of the Creator's design to have the Creation evolve, adapt, and change over time - what is the harm/issue with that???

1dunno1

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Re: Evolution was not proven true...until THIS.......I am SUCH the believer now- and you??
You haven't posted any of your own thoughts in this discussion have you? I asked you what happens when living organisms are exposed to elevated levels of cosmic radiation that has inundated the Earth in the past. You've yet to supply me with an answer.
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Radiation can mutate DNA, as can many environmental inducements. And interesting fact of biology, and certainly not evidence for naturalist creation stories.
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Re: Evolution was not proven true...until THIS.......I am SUCH the believer now- and you??
I don't understand why Creationism & Evolution must be viewed as mutually exclusive concepts? The existence of one does not negate the existence of the other. If it was part of the Creator's design to have the Creation evolve, adapt, and change over time - what is the harm/issue with that???
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The problem is there is no empirical evidence for evolutionary common descent. Evolution is basically an ancient naturalist philosophy that predates Christianity. It's a refined version of Spontaneous Generation pseudoscience of the 18th century, when scientists believed flies and mice sprung out of lifeless matter.
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Re: Evolution was not proven true...until THIS.......I am SUCH the believer now- and you??
You haven't posted any of your own thoughts in this discussion have you? I asked you what happens when living organisms are exposed to elevated levels of cosmic radiation that has inundated the Earth in the past. You've yet to supply me with an answer.
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Radiation can mutate DNA, as can many environmental inducements. And interesting fact of biology, and certainly not evidence for naturalist creation stories.
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Yes can mutate dna but can never increase it's information unless others are sharing information to it.

here's from the atheist's god.

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I don't understand why Creationism & Evolution must be viewed as mutually exclusive concepts? The existence of one does not negate the existence of the other. If it was part of the Creator's design to have the Creation evolve, adapt, and change over time - what is the harm/issue with that???
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The problem is there is no empirical evidence for evolutionary common descent. Evolution is basically an ancient naturalist philosophy that predates Christianity. It's a refined version of Spontaneous Generation pseudoscience of the 18th century, when scientists believed flies and mice sprung out of lifeless matter.
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What are the origins of evolution theory/philosophy that predate christianity? I'm sincerely asking because I don't know the answer.

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I don't understand why Creationism & Evolution must be viewed as mutually exclusive concepts? The existence of one does not negate the existence of the other. If it was part of the Creator's design to have the Creation evolve, adapt, and change over time - what is the harm/issue with that???
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The problem is there is no empirical evidence for evolutionary common descent. Evolution is basically an ancient naturalist philosophy that predates Christianity. It's a refined version of Spontaneous Generation pseudoscience of the 18th century, when scientists believed flies and mice sprung out of lifeless matter.
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evolution theory = earth is flat

mindblowing fact.
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I don't understand why Creationism & Evolution must be viewed as mutually exclusive concepts? The existence of one does not negate the existence of the other. If it was part of the Creator's design to have the Creation evolve, adapt, and change over time - what is the harm/issue with that???
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


The problem is there is no empirical evidence for evolutionary common descent. Evolution is basically an ancient naturalist philosophy that predates Christianity. It's a refined version of Spontaneous Generation pseudoscience of the 18th century, when scientists believed flies and mice sprung out of lifeless matter.
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What are the origins of evolution theory/philosophy that predate christianity? I'm sincerely asking because I don't know the answer.
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nope not sincerely, your looking again for the billions of years time span fairy tale lala land which never happened.
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not bad photo shops can you point out the 2 animals that were not photo shopped?
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Genetic variation is a common phenomenon, perpetually manifesting itself as extant dominant and recessive genetic traits “appear” and “vanish” in successive generations within a population of organisms. A population’s adaptation through genetic variation is as much a fact of biological life as are genes themselves. Though some evolutionists like to call this phenomenon “micro-evolution,” the variations dictated by any gene pool are neither “new” traits, nor qualitative “changes” in the gene pool (as required for “macro-evolution”); their potential is already well-defined within the DNA of the population’s gene pool, and all possible changes (i.e., variations) within that population are limited specifically to those inherent traits.

[link to www.trueorigin.org]
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You haven't posted any of your own thoughts in this discussion have you?
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yeah, i know post my own thoughts as if your thoughts are all original too?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34441843


Well so far you've only ridiculed people in this thread and copy & pasted text that you did not author. Did you want to share your own perspective on the matter or just avoid having to do so?

I don't understand why Creationism & Evolution must be viewed as mutually exclusive concepts? The existence of one does not negate the existence of the other. If it was part of the Creator's design to have the Creation evolve, adapt, and change over time - what is the harm/issue with that???

1dunno1
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Exclusive ? You are mixing lies in facts. Billions of years never happened. How dumb atheist really see the rocks outside as billions if not millions of years where in fact it that happened. Even that's so hard to believe they believe it just to brainwash themselves at least for the time being from the Terror of The Lord.

Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; - 2 Corinthians 5:11

Sooner or later, we will all be infront of the Judgement seat.

Even if you believe in theistic evolution, your god is still an idol, it's not the Biblical God.

Why ask the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to guide you through Jesus Christ so that you will find the truth.
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nope not sincerely, your looking again for the billions of years time span fairy tale lala land which never happened.
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Thanks for contributing more verbal diarrhea to this thread. You'd rather ridicule others than have an intelligent discussion about the subject matter and that is telling of your motives.

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Re: Evolution was not proven true...until THIS.......I am SUCH the believer now- and you??
I don't understand why Creationism & Evolution must be viewed as mutually exclusive concepts? The existence of one does not negate the existence of the other. If it was part of the Creator's design to have the Creation evolve, adapt, and change over time - what is the harm/issue with that???
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


The problem is there is no empirical evidence for evolutionary common descent. Evolution is basically an ancient naturalist philosophy that predates Christianity. It's a refined version of Spontaneous Generation pseudoscience of the 18th century, when scientists believed flies and mice sprung out of lifeless matter.
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What are the origins of evolution that predate christianity? I'm sincerely asking because I don't know the answer.
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This is a great summary of it

'Pagan Roots of Evolution'
[link to www.youtube.com]


The story that Evolution was an idea motivated by scientific investigation is basically a fable. People have had quasi-religious beliefs about nature creating itself, and higher life-forms descending from lower-lifeforms for millenia.

It's very sad how this philosophy managed to hi-jack biology in the 19th century, through promotion by the atheist royal societies. Since then, any time something in life has been observed to move a tiny bit, a legion of devout evolutionists have screamed "See? EVOLUTION!!!"

It's so absurd. Evolution will be remembered as one of the stupidest ideas in the history of science. We will look back on it like we look back on Spontaneous Generation.

Biologists are FINALLY coming around to the fact that Neo-Darwinian style Evolution is unequivocally B.S. Of course they're kicking the can down the road, but it doesn't look too good.


This isn't about evidence, though. Evidence be damned, People will hold onto Evolution for dear life if it means they can continue to justify their atheist lifestyle.
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I'm so tired of standing my ground in these threads against the uneducated Christians. Post tons of links to research papers, and go through all this stuff just to have to watch them post YouTube video links regarding how evolution is proved wrong by some random dude on YouTube. Or by the famous quote from Darwin himself that has been taken out of context by everyone from Glenn beck to Kenn ham.
I can't take it any more. There's no point in arguing with people that are either illiterate or lazy. Why is it that everyone here that didn't go to college is 100% against Darwin, but every college graduate cannot understand what schooling these people missed. That's why you guys work for us and not the other way around.. grrr science, right?
So angry at science, while you type on your computers in your houses that science built, in your clothes that science perfected, ect, ect..
I'm out of here, but before I go, I just want to remind everyone that hooked on phonics is still available via their website. I suggest grabbing that, Christians. Please.
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this is not about science...it is about evolution

no need to take such offense about science

creation IS science and God is the greatest scientist in existence

to Quote you: "There is no point in arguing with people that are either illiterate or lazy"....

it takes laziness to see the complexities of life on earth and heavens, and NOT SEE the evidence of a Creator

interesting that you mention that "science built houses"-

"Of course, every house is constructed by someone, but he that constructs all things is God"- Hebrews 3:4
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Exclusive ? You are mixing lies in facts. Billions of years never happened. How dumb atheist really see the rocks outside as billions if not millions of years where in fact it that happened. Even that's so hard to believe they believe it just to brainwash themselves at least for the time being from the Terror of The Lord.

Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; - 2 Corinthians 5:11

Sooner or later, we will all be infront of the Judgement seat.

Even if you believe in theistic evolution, your god is still an idol, it's not the Biblical God.

Why ask the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to guide you through Jesus Christ so that you will find the truth.
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I'm not an atheist so I stopped reading your post after your ignorant assumption since what follows cannot apply to me. Thanks for playing.

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Re: Evolution was not proven true...until THIS.......I am SUCH the believer now- and you??
nope not sincerely, your looking again for the billions of years time span fairy tale lala land which never happened.
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Thanks for contributing more verbal diarrhea to this thread. You'd rather ridicule others than have an intelligent discussion about the subject matter and that is telling of your motives.
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A dumb argument doesnt deserve a real one.

How easy it is for an evolutionist to think they are rational and others who don't believe in such religion aren't.
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Re: Evolution was not proven true...until THIS.......I am SUCH the believer now- and you??
Exclusive ? You are mixing lies in facts. Billions of years never happened. How dumb atheist really see the rocks outside as billions if not millions of years where in fact it that happened. Even that's so hard to believe they believe it just to brainwash themselves at least for the time being from the Terror of The Lord.

Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; - 2 Corinthians 5:11

Sooner or later, we will all be infront of the Judgement seat.

Even if you believe in theistic evolution, your god is still an idol, it's not the Biblical God.

Why ask the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to guide you through Jesus Christ so that you will find the truth.
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I'm not an atheist so I stopped reading your post after your ignorant assumption since what follows cannot apply to me. Thanks for playing.
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That's why i'm telling you if you are a theistic evolutionist, your god is an Idol, not the Biblical God.

Just like the pope's god, an idol because they are worshiping a god who needs death to make man.

It just shows you aren't reading clearly the posts.

Try to breath deep and relax.
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Evolution has evidence, Christianity has 0 evidence
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oh? all the skulls they found have been proven to be fake. plus science supports that we came from two people.
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I believe too. Wow. LOL

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