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Evolution was not proven true...until THIS.......I am SUCH the believer now- and you??

 
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God: So you atheists don't want to believe in me, I'll give you a dumb brain.

Atheist: Okay You don't exist.

God: I have no pleasure in sending you to Hell (Ezekiel 33:11) but it seems you wont repent, so be it.
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Galapagos Finches produce Galapagos Finches- same with the tortoises

" Naturalist guide Ronald Daeumler, who recently spent two years on the Galápagos, observed: “Frankly, I was astounded on learning that this was really Darwin’s most convincing reason to show that evolution was a possible explanation of the origin of the species. He reasoned that if the finch could, as he called it, evolve a new beak, then it was probable that it could also evolve into another animal if enough time was granted. Could this thinking really be the foundation that has caused so many millions of people to renounce the concept of an intelligent creator? Was this the strongest support that Darwin’s islands could give to evolution?

“As a guide I was really interested in being able to identify the different finches. But since they are called different species I had imagined that identification would be a very easy process. However, as I did research I came to realize that the differences between these so-called species were so small that many could be identified only by weighing or measuring different organs such as the heart or brain. As one author said: ‘It is only a very wise man or a fool who thinks he is able to identify all the finches which he sees.”’

Daeumler then observes: “But really, have the Galapagos finches made what could be called evolutionary changes, changes that in time could change them into something else? Or are these finches simply variations and adaptations that are common to all different, basic types of animals? The facts were clear to me: these finches were still finches and nothing else, and long ages of time were not making them change into something else.” "

I posted this on thread linked below and the guy quoted above replied! {and gave attribution I left out!} There was some baning ,and I didn't get to reply then.


Thread: Then Galapagos Islands
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Agnostics = coward athiests
Athiests = lying tongue if not the dumbest

Both = going to Eternal Damnation of Hell unless they repent and bow down to the King of Kings The One and Only God Jesus Christ.
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You really need to revisit your marketing strategies for this god thing.
Threats tend not to do it for people you know.
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Who's threatening? Me, oh no no.. It was not a threat when God rained fire and brimstone in sodom, it was reality.

Try to check your brain dude.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34441843


It was as real as Never-Never Land in Peter Pan.

My brain's fine thanks, yours needs a lot of work on it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34227736


never land and peter pan are, in fact, more believable than evolution


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Galapagos Finches produce Galapagos Finches- same with the tortoises

" Naturalist guide Ronald Daeumler, who recently spent two years on the Galápagos, observed: “Frankly, I was astounded on learning that this was really Darwin’s most convincing reason to show that evolution was a possible explanation of the origin of the species. He reasoned that if the finch could, as he called it, evolve a new beak, then it was probable that it could also evolve into another animal if enough time was granted. Could this thinking really be the foundation that has caused so many millions of people to renounce the concept of an intelligent creator? Was this the strongest support that Darwin’s islands could give to evolution?

“As a guide I was really interested in being able to identify the different finches. But since they are called different species I had imagined that identification would be a very easy process. However, as I did research I came to realize that the differences between these so-called species were so small that many could be identified only by weighing or measuring different organs such as the heart or brain. As one author said: ‘It is only a very wise man or a fool who thinks he is able to identify all the finches which he sees.”’

Daeumler then observes: “But really, have the Galapagos finches made what could be called evolutionary changes, changes that in time could change them into something else? Or are these finches simply variations and adaptations that are common to all different, basic types of animals? The facts were clear to me: these finches were still finches and nothing else, and long ages of time were not making them change into something else.” "

I posted this on thread linked below and the guy quoted above replied! {and gave attribution I left out!} There was some baning ,and I didn't get to reply then.


Thread: Then Galapagos Islands
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You really need to revisit your marketing strategies for this god thing.
Threats tend not to do it for people you know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34227736


Who's threatening? Me, oh no no.. It was not a threat when God rained fire and brimstone in sodom, it was reality.

Try to check your brain dude.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34441843


It was as real as Never-Never Land in Peter Pan.

My brain's fine thanks, yours needs a lot of work on it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34227736


never land and peter pan are, in fact, more believable than evolution


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xoxo
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You really need to revisit your marketing strategies for this god thing.
Threats tend not to do it for people you know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34227736


Who's threatening? Me, oh no no.. It was not a threat when God rained fire and brimstone in sodom, it was reality.

Try to check your brain dude.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34441843


It was as real as Never-Never Land in Peter Pan.

My brain's fine thanks, yours needs a lot of work on it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34227736


never land and peter pan are, in fact, more believable than evolution


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Yes they are
intelligently designed, if only two dimensional.
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As neurophysiologist and Nobel Laureate Sir John Eccles once so eloquently put it, “Arrogance is one of the worst diseases of scientists and it gives rise to statements of authority and finality which are expressed usually in fields that are completely beyond the scientific competence of the dogmatist. It is important to realise that dogmatism has now become a disease of scientists rather than of theologians.
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You really need to revisit your marketing strategies for this god thing.
Threats tend not to do it for people you know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34227736


Who's threatening? Me, oh no no.. It was not a threat when God rained fire and brimstone in sodom, it was reality.

Try to check your brain dude.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34441843


It was as real as Never-Never Land in Peter Pan.

My brain's fine thanks, yours needs a lot of work on it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34227736


never land and peter pan are, in fact, more believable than evolution


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and evolution is more believable than Genesis.

i guess Disney wins again!
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As neurophysiologist and Nobel Laureate Sir John Eccles once so eloquently put it, “Arrogance is one of the worst diseases of scientists and it gives rise to statements of authority and finality which are expressed usually in fields that are completely beyond the scientific competence of the dogmatist. It is important to realise that dogmatism has now become a disease of scientists rather than of theologians.
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Bad comparison, a theologian will always end up on one note, you are either one of His or not. Scientist would rather use words or images to which the untrained eye of a person cannot conceive, or use new words unfamiliar with the populaces general language of thought, to confound, confuse, contradict, critisize, condemn, bring contempt, and conspire against those that know there must be a God, because no chance, no cauldrin of concoctions, and no conspiracy against a Creator God can explain the love that abounds in a man's heart when another soul, says "help me, I hurt."

He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love
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Who's threatening? Me, oh no no.. It was not a threat when God rained fire and brimstone in sodom, it was reality.

Try to check your brain dude.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34441843


It was as real as Never-Never Land in Peter Pan.

My brain's fine thanks, yours needs a lot of work on it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34227736


never land and peter pan are, in fact, more believable than evolution


 Quoting: CelestialMaiden



and evolution is more believable than Genesis.

i guess Disney wins again!
 Quoting: davId 33758960


WRONG-Disney gave us a place where our imaginations can play-evolution gives us nothing more then a world that is black and grey

no answers....no celebration....no hope for the future-evolution is a figment of imagination- your right Disney wins again!!!!!!!
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Is OP's video full of photoshops supposed to prove something?

Since we don't understand the mechanism of this alleged evolution, we are on very shaky (scientifically improper) ground asserting that it is a credible theory. It's not even a theory at this point, just a notion that doesn't bridge many gaps.

So we can say the rest is unexplained. I am happy with that.

Or we can say some higher intelligence designed the systems. Since this is pretty obvious, I am also happy with that.
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Is OP's video full of photoshops supposed to prove something?

Since we don't understand the mechanism of this alleged evolution, we are on very shaky (scientifically improper) ground asserting that it is a credible theory. It's not even a theory at this point, just a notion that doesn't bridge many gaps.

So we can say the rest is unexplained. I am happy with that.

Or we can say some higher intelligence designed the systems. Since this is pretty obvious, I am also happy with that.
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The photos are living proof of half this and half that creatures evolving. They make up for no one ever finding one single fossil of the fabulous scientific secret of evolution, formerly reserved only for the elite.. So much better than just drawing little creatures side by side with bigger and bigger ones. That's so old school now.
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Re: Evolution was not proven true...until THIS.......I am SUCH the believer now- and you??
Is OP's video full of photoshops supposed to prove something?

Since we don't understand the mechanism of this alleged evolution, we are on very shaky (scientifically improper) ground asserting that it is a credible theory. It's not even a theory at this point, just a notion that doesn't bridge many gaps.

So we can say the rest is unexplained. I am happy with that.

Or we can say some higher intelligence designed the systems. Since this is pretty obvious, I am also happy with that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33389306


The photos are living proof of half this and half that creatures evolving. They make up for no one ever finding one single fossil of the fabulous scientific secret of evolution, formerly reserved only for the elite.. So much better than just drawing little creatures side by side with bigger and bigger ones. That's so old school now.
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Is OP's video full of photoshops supposed to prove something?

Since we don't understand the mechanism of this alleged evolution, we are on very shaky (scientifically improper) ground asserting that it is a credible theory. It's not even a theory at this point, just a notion that doesn't bridge many gaps.

So we can say the rest is unexplained. I am happy with that.

Or we can say some higher intelligence designed the systems. Since this is pretty obvious, I am also happy with that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33389306


The photos are living proof of half this and half that creatures evolving. They make up for no one ever finding one single fossil of the fabulous scientific secret of evolution, formerly reserved only for the elite.. So much better than just drawing little creatures side by side with bigger and bigger ones. That's so old school now.
5a
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1doh1
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are these EVOLVING? or....Devolving?
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Re: Evolution was not proven true...until THIS.......I am SUCH the believer now- and you??
Is OP's video full of photoshops supposed to prove something?

Since we don't understand the mechanism of this alleged evolution, we are on very shaky (scientifically improper) ground asserting that it is a credible theory. It's not even a theory at this point, just a notion that doesn't bridge many gaps.

So we can say the rest is unexplained. I am happy with that.

Or we can say some higher intelligence designed the systems. Since this is pretty obvious, I am also happy with that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33389306


The photos are living proof of half this and half that creatures evolving. They make up for no one ever finding one single fossil of the fabulous scientific secret of evolution, formerly reserved only for the elite.. So much better than just drawing little creatures side by side with bigger and bigger ones. That's so old school now.
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1doh1
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are these EVOLVING? or....Devolving?
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No No No now looky here God Girl, don't try sneaking up on us wit no stinking trick questions like 'devolving'. Only ya all IGNORAMUSES even ask questions like that. Them things don't even tiny thingies no them thingies they don't never even exit exist. Now pardon me cause I needa slama anover brewshi crying out loud.
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The photos are living proof of half this and half that creatures evolving. They make up for no one ever finding one single fossil of the fabulous scientific secret of evolution, formerly reserved only for the elite.. So much better than just drawing little creatures side by side with bigger and bigger ones. That's so old school now.
5a
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1doh1
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are these EVOLVING? or....Devolving?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


No No No now looky here God Girl, don't try sneaking up on us wit no stinking trick questions like 'devolving'. Only ya all IGNORAMUSES even ask questions like that. Them things don't even tiny thingies no them thingies they don't never even exit exist. Now pardon me cause I needa slama anover brewshi crying out loud.
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slam one then answer the question
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1doh1
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are these EVOLVING? or....Devolving?
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No No No now looky here God Girl, don't try sneaking up on us wit no stinking trick questions like 'devolving'. Only ya all IGNORAMUSES even ask questions like that. Them things don't even tiny thingies no them thingies they don't never even exit exist. Now pardon me cause I needa slama anover brewshi crying out loud.
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slam one then answer the question
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Tell you what, go away and ask a grown-up exactly what evolution means in a biological sense.
Then come back and realise what a ridiculous question you've asked.
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Evolution has evidence, Christianity has 0 evidence
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oh yeah, the evidence is overwhelming
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Yes it is I am impressed you have accepted this
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Evolution has evidence, Christianity has 0 evidence
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oh yeah, the evidence is overwhelming
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Yes it is I am impressed you have accepted this
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Yeah...... no half and half fossils but.... so what? It's not like we're not talking science here, only theory. Two dimensional drawings of real creatures make up for the imaginary missing ones, k?

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Evolution has evidence, Christianity has 0 evidence
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oh yeah, the evidence is overwhelming
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Yes it is I am impressed you have accepted this
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35317009


Yeah...... no half and half fossils but.... so what? It's not like we're not talking science here, only theory. Two dimensional drawings of real creatures make up for the imaginary missing ones, k?

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Oh........gawd........YAWN........oops2

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