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BREAKING! Sequestration for all military flights except in combat, ad infinitum

 
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Im trying to find more links for this. Most news centers around one topic at a time. This isnt new, but the involvement is.

It will hit more than just the military, also impacting tsa, which may add an hour to your wait time. Customs and border protection are forced 12-14 days off with no pay, adding 3 hrs to international flights. Mandatory no pay 11 days off for FAA.

Missile defense ground radar being turned off for 16 hrs a day, ground radar is the same, and cut remaining flying hours by a third (mac flights/space a). Cut maintenance on aircraft. Tricare could lose $3Billion.

Cancellation of all flights not crucial to war.

Fewer border agents. Uh oh.

Starts march 1st.

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[link to m.washingtontimes.com]

[link to hosted.ap.org]

If any info i typed is not verified in those above links and you want more info, please tell me and i will hunt down a legitimate news site regarding it.

areas the sequestration is impacting: housing, labor, interior department (national parks, etc), fbi, agriculture, irs, EPA, Transportation, national institutes of health, education, faa, homeland security (ss, coast guard, border patrol).

Chains of command this week were giving a passdown to their contracted employees and military personnel this week, and how they will be impacted by this sequestration.
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We need smaller gov.

I hope this is just the start and it snowballs into something we can all live with. Way,way too many people on the gov. payroll.
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We're still going to be spending almost 3 Trillion a year even after Sequestration...so where is all that fuckin' money going?!?!?

Who knows, we haven't had a budget in 4 years!!!
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We're still going to be spending almost 3 Trillion a year even after Sequestration...so where is all that fuckin' money going?!?!?

Who knows, we haven't had a budget in 4 years!!!
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Thats true. These changes seem so extreme. Im surprised the va isnt affected by it (that we have found, but i wasnt quite looking).
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If this way my Empire, I sure as hell wouldn't turn the ground radars off for 16 hours a day. Wtf.
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If this way my Empire, I sure as hell wouldn't turn the ground radars off for 16 hours a day. Wtf.
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I was thinking that too. I typoed though, 16 hrs off/day for both missile defense and ground radar. Two separate things.

seven years of tribulation being created By man, artificially, with one law that covers a large number of aspects of the government that are supposed to keep us safe. We will instantly be unsafe.

Now…my fiance thinks it will take time before all non combat flights (ie pilots practicing maneuvers) comes to a halt. He expects the flightline to be same ol same ol until this trickle down occurs, but i have no clue. seems to me like itd be an instant change in day to day flightline operations for fighter jets. how would a commanding officer get away with fueling a jet in florida on march 2, unless its to fly the jet to a hangar or war zone?
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If you look at obama's state of the union address, he doesnt use "sequester" but describes it, starting at 9 min into his speech.
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OH NOOO!!!!!! The US Military will only be 5x as powerful as the rest of the world combined!!!!! How will we survive it!?!?!

IT'S ALL F E A R M O N G E R I N G B. S....
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Know a guy who's uncle works at a big defense contractor (aerospace) and they are practically mothballing programs in the billions since they don't have a clue what is going to happen. Some of the big guys are pretty confused right now.

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This really stinks...been to this show many times. crying

Luke Air Force Base in Glendale cancels March air show

Luke Air Force Base officials announced Friday they have canceled their March air show that hundreds of thousands of people attend due to the possibility of steep federal financial cuts, according to a press release.

Luke officials said they don’t want to waste taxpayer dollars with the threat of a deal not being reached on the massive, across-the-board spending cuts. Part of the Glendale base’s plan to reduce costs includes significantly reducing flying not directly related to pilot training, the release said.


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OH NOOO!!!!!! The US Military will only be 5x as powerful as the rest of the world combined!!!!! How will we survive it!?!?!

IT'S ALL F E A R M O N G E R I N G B. S....
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Not when my fiance comes home and says he's protected until the contract is over since the government already paid in full for that contractor company. But..after that it will be very difficult for him to find a similar job. And in the coming months, after the trickle down occurs, his day will consist of sitting around doing nothing all day, goofing off. Which is fine and well, but how do pilots train for war? They can't just be thrown into it 5 years after their last flight. Fighter pilots have a lot of maneuvers to master and that uses a certain area of the brain that requires 10,000 hours to master any skill.
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OH NOOO!!!!!! The US Military will only be 5x as powerful as the rest of the world combined!!!!! How will we survive it!?!?!

IT'S ALL F E A R M O N G E R I N G B. S....
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Not when my fiance comes home and says he's protected until the contract is over since the government already paid in full for that contractor company. But..after that it will be very difficult for him to find a similar job. And in the coming months, after the trickle down occurs, his day will consist of sitting around doing nothing all day, goofing off. Which is fine and well, but how do pilots train for war? They can't just be thrown into it 5 years after their last flight. Fighter pilots have a lot of maneuvers to master and that uses a certain area of the brain that requires 10,000 hours to master any skill.
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nevermind. They don't even get 10,000 hours now. lolll! usa, we are so effed.
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And yet, Congress thinks they deserve a raise!! I agree that we need smaller government, but this sequester is only like 2.3% of something and we will still be, net/net, running more red ink even if all of this sticks for good.

And it shouldn't be done this way! It should not be some mindless across the board cut. NO GROUND RADAR? Are they high?

ALL of these fuckers...POTUS, Senate and House should be strung up by nether regions!! However, I'm aware this is part of the plan...the Republic cannot function any longer due to hopeless dysfunction between the branches...
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Obama family limited to 2 vacations per month.
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We're still going to be spending almost 3 Trillion a year even after Sequestration...so where is all that fuckin' money going?!?!?Who knows, we haven't had a budget in 4 years!!!
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That's what I want to know. Where is all the fucking money going? And who the fuck is spending it?
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for 2-3% this is a pretty epic change. I didn't write everything yet and it will probably take time to gather the information via sources glp allows xD

I'm happy there will be no more fighter jets overhead killing my ears and making phone calls impossible...but that's also my man's livelihood.

Is it 5% for Nasa? With inflation and budget cuts, a company can get screwered
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Obama is trying to make contractors stay quiet because the WARN act doesn't protect employees that only might be fired in 60 days; it only protects those employees that _will_ be fired in the next 60 days.

[link to www.forbes.com]

Housing:

Impacts veterans in certain ways, ie- homeless veterans and those on disability.
[link to www.washingtonpost.com]



I'll get more up on here tomorrow.
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We're still going to be spending almost 3 Trillion a year even after Sequestration...so where is all that fuckin' money going?!?!?

Who knows, we haven't had a budget in 4 years!!!
 Quoting: Saddletramp


We havent had a budget since 1997!
Keneh
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We need smaller gov.

I hope this is just the start and it snowballs into something we can all live with. Way,way too many people on the gov. payroll.
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We need that fool and all his jokers out of the White House is what we need, put someone in their that has some ca hones!
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We're still going to be spending almost 3 Trillion a year even after Sequestration...so where is all that fuckin' money going?!?!?

Who knows, we haven't had a budget in 4 years!!!
 Quoting: Saddletramp


We havent had a budget since 1997!
 Quoting: Keneh


Yeah since the Democrats took control of the Senate..shows you what they do while in office..not a dam thing but whine about the poor ...but not one of those asshats would stop and give a poor person a dime if their life depended on it because behind closed doors and at their fancy dinners they refer to the poor as trash..and that is the truth.

Get Harry Reid out of the senate and things will improve..that is as long as he takes Obama with him when he goes.
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We're still going to be spending almost 3 Trillion a year even after Sequestration...so where is all that fuckin' money going?!?!?Who knows, we haven't had a budget in 4 years!!!
 Quoting: Saddletramp


That's what I want to know. Where is all the fucking money going? And who the fuck is spending it?
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goldman sachs bonuses.

and it's not real money anyway. It will soon disappear from your pension plan too.
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Good.
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Now just imagine when the government is FORCED to cut the deficit to 0 due to the bond market.... all hell will break loose.
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False flag incoming so you can have another "war" to justify just about anything under the damn sun.
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Now I'm a bit high and medicated too. xD But I had an "ah-hah!" moment a couple minutes ago. I was wondering...how it would be if the government planned to take away a % of every facet of government. Then in a year, they can increase spending quite a bit to their small programs of choice only and not the others that had they didn't want to front the cash for.

Almost like it's all about moving the money around to where it's wanted.
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I'll be back tomorrow.
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We're still going to be spending almost 3 Trillion a year even after Sequestration...so where is all that fuckin' money going?!?!?

Who knows, we haven't had a budget in 4 years!!!
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Thats true. These changes seem so extreme. Im surprised the va isnt affected by it (that we have found, but i wasnt quite looking).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21738912


Government always cuts the "services" that people think are essential in a budget crisis.

Gubmint always cries poverty even as they consume more and more taxes.

And take more and more from the productive sector.

Last Edited by s. d. butler on 02/16/2013 03:54 AM

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