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What do You think happens after we die?

 
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What truth do you speak of?

That life came from inorganic matter, which can not be proven.
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No we were created at some point and that is the truth. The bible is just one speculative attempt to answer it.

This may freak you, but cogito ergo sum. If I am thinking, I exist and if I exist, something is responsible for it. Science will tell me it's true that a union between sperm and an egg did it, but then I ask, which came first (my mother or father, muahhahaha)? Seriously though this version is incomplete because of the who created who paradox.

So, I am saying that like Descartes, I have to agree there must be a God (or creator). I just don't think that the bible provides any answers except for people like you who do not have the intellect to admit it.

Sheep are notable for following each other. That is instinct/programming. Christians are notable for following each other. Sheep can't avoid it, Christains can.
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There is no paradox. The creation of independent sex is part of the evolutionary process.

Science tells us that the first forms of life where single-cell organisms that self-replicated. These came from a comet carrying organic compounds and a perfect combination when it impacted earth's elements created the first spark of life - activating those organisms.

Over millions of years life has evolved into many forms - giving abilities to reproduce in many ways. For one species it may have asexually reproduced a female and then another of the same species asexually reproduced a male. The male and female created the first sexually born of that species and so on and so forth.

It's not really a mystery anymore.
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Not so sure that sience have the answer either. This stuff changes so often and the "trackrecord" is not the best. Feels silly that sience want to explain everything and when they dont know the call it stuff like "nothingness" and so on. The big bang theory that we are created from nothing does not sounds sane to me.
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Of course not. I'm not saying science is the answer.

Anything that involves a human, is going to be flawed. It's going to have errors. It's going to be wrong. But, you can't discount an entire person, program, group of people, just because it gets wrong sometimes. If you did that, there'd be no point to life at all...

Exploration..

As I said in the other post...no matter what science could ever conclude -- they could never get as far as to 'decode' the source.

It has to be unloaded to do so. There's always a question behind every discovery.

Say they prove how life formed. A new question arises, where did all of the compounds come from? Why does it have that exact reaction? There will forever be why's and how's to no matter what is answered.

During each step in our scientific discovery. The scientists will claim each time of its disproof of religion and the religious people will keep going to the next why and the next how.

It's ironic, we almost need both groups to keep them both moving expedient.
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Possibly nothing.
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Yes this is also a possibility. But I dont like it.
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What's there to not like about it?

If our consciousness ceases to exist upon death, then you will never even know it. Poof! You're gone and that's that.

Personally, I believe our consciousness continues to exist, and the reason I believe this is because since I don't know for sure either way, I choose to believe what makes me "feel" the best.

As for Christianity and the claim that the God of the Bible is going to judge us, that is utter nonsense. The Bible is a control mechanism and for some of us, it is necessary. E.g. I know someone who is suicidal/homicidal and if it weren't for the fact that he fears going to hell, then he would go on a killing spree.
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Yes the bible have been a control mechanism for a long time now, thats why I have my doubts about it. It have happend a lot of bad things in the name of religion.

I just feel that hate, wars, killing and all that is connected to religion cant be the answer. But I accept if someone belives in a religion, just a bit tired of it myself.
 Quoting: Mr. Andersson
So are you going to repeat the lie that most wars are religious?most wars are not religious.Pol Pot Mao and Stalin for example.WW1 WW2 for another.
You may hate God but if you do not turn to Him you will regret it soon.
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No we were created at some point and that is the truth. The bible is just one speculative attempt to answer it.

This may freak you, but cogito ergo sum. If I am thinking, I exist and if I exist, something is responsible for it. Science will tell me it's true that a union between sperm and an egg did it, but then I ask, which came first (my mother or father, muahhahaha)? Seriously though this version is incomplete because of the who created who paradox.

So, I am saying that like Descartes, I have to agree there must be a God (or creator). I just don't think that the bible provides any answers except for people like you who do not have the intellect to admit it.

Sheep are notable for following each other. That is instinct/programming. Christians are notable for following each other. Sheep can't avoid it, Christains can.
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There is no paradox. The creation of independent sex is part of the evolutionary process.

Science tells us that the first forms of life where single-cell organisms that self-replicated. These came from a comet carrying organic compounds and a perfect combination when it impacted earth's elements created the first spark of life - activating those organisms.

Over millions of years life has evolved into many forms - giving abilities to reproduce in many ways. For one species it may have asexually reproduced a female and then another of the same species asexually reproduced a male. The male and female created the first sexually born of that species and so on and so forth.

It's not really a mystery anymore.
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Not so sure that sience have the answer either. This stuff changes so often and the "trackrecord" is not the best. Feels silly that sience want to explain everything and when they dont know the call it stuff like "nothingness" and so on. The big bang theory that we are created from nothing does not sounds sane to me.
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Not to mention, where did the organic compound come from?

Or even more to the point, where did the universe come from?

How can something come from nothing?

Of course, even if there is a creator "consciousness", it does not mean our consciousness continues after death, but it certainly increase the probability.

There is evidence that the universe is similar to our brain and that we are the result of a "dream" the universe is having.

And before any of you laugh at this idea, think about when you dream. You interact with other characters and in your dream, you have no idea what these characters are going to do or what is going to happen next in your dream. So, maybe we are just a dream of the universe.
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I certenly will not laugh! This is very interesting and a clever thought.
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Yes this is also a possibility. But I dont like it.
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What's there to not like about it?

If our consciousness ceases to exist upon death, then you will never even know it. Poof! You're gone and that's that.

Personally, I believe our consciousness continues to exist, and the reason I believe this is because since I don't know for sure either way, I choose to believe what makes me "feel" the best.

As for Christianity and the claim that the God of the Bible is going to judge us, that is utter nonsense. The Bible is a control mechanism and for some of us, it is necessary. E.g. I know someone who is suicidal/homicidal and if it weren't for the fact that he fears going to hell, then he would go on a killing spree.
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Yes the bible have been a control mechanism for a long time now, thats why I have my doubts about it. It have happend a lot of bad things in the name of religion.

I just feel that hate, wars, killing and all that is connected to religion cant be the answer. But I accept if someone belives in a religion, just a bit tired of it myself.
 Quoting: Mr. Andersson
So are you going to repeat the lie that most wars are religious?most wars are not religious.Pol Pot Mao and Stalin for example.WW1 WW2 for another.
You may hate God but if you do not turn to Him you will regret it soon.
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I dont hate God. I dont hate anyone or anything. Yes we have wars over a lot of different things. I agree.

btw. sorry if I offended you, not my goal at all.

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Regardless of religion, does something happen or is it the end. Are we gone?

Many have died in my family and my parents are old now. I just wonder if the "dead" are around in some way or if they are gone.

Not so intrested in the bible.
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why not Bible?I can prove it is real.that is the easy part.It describes nuclear weapons in DETAIL among other things.You die you cease to live.You lay in dust until resurrection which is SOON!
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Yes I know! This is very interesting! Have Read some about it.
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No we were created at some point and that is the truth. The bible is just one speculative attempt to answer it.

This may freak you, but cogito ergo sum. If I am thinking, I exist and if I exist, something is responsible for it. Science will tell me it's true that a union between sperm and an egg did it, but then I ask, which came first (my mother or father, muahhahaha)? Seriously though this version is incomplete because of the who created who paradox.

So, I am saying that like Descartes, I have to agree there must be a God (or creator). I just don't think that the bible provides any answers except for people like you who do not have the intellect to admit it.

Sheep are notable for following each other. That is instinct/programming. Christians are notable for following each other. Sheep can't avoid it, Christains can.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17743805


There is no paradox. The creation of independent sex is part of the evolutionary process.

Science tells us that the first forms of life where single-cell organisms that self-replicated. These came from a comet carrying organic compounds and a perfect combination when it impacted earth's elements created the first spark of life - activating those organisms.

Over millions of years life has evolved into many forms - giving abilities to reproduce in many ways. For one species it may have asexually reproduced a female and then another of the same species asexually reproduced a male. The male and female created the first sexually born of that species and so on and so forth.

It's not really a mystery anymore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34139889



Not so sure that sience have the answer either. This stuff changes so often and the "trackrecord" is not the best. Feels silly that sience want to explain everything and when they dont know the call it stuff like "nothingness" and so on. The big bang theory that we are created from nothing does not sounds sane to me.
 Quoting: Mr. Andersson



Of course not. I'm not saying science is the answer.

Anything that involves a human, is going to be flawed. It's going to have errors. It's going to be wrong. But, you can't discount an entire person, program, group of people, just because it gets wrong sometimes. If you did that, there'd be no point to life at all...

Exploration..

As I said in the other post...no matter what science could ever conclude -- they could never get as far as to 'decode' the source.

It has to be unloaded to do so. There's always a question behind every discovery.

Say they prove how life formed. A new question arises, where did all of the compounds come from? Why does it have that exact reaction? There will forever be why's and how's to no matter what is answered.

During each step in our scientific discovery. The scientists will claim each time of its disproof of religion and the religious people will keep going to the next why and the next how.

It's ironic, we almost need both groups to keep them both moving expedient.
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I like this "Anything that involves a human, is going to be flawed." :) You are right.
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I just wish I could say something to comfort my father and mother as well. They seem som afraid of death. They cant even talk about it.

I think its not the end. More of a beginning. I am a little afraid too, but i dont think it just turnes black or that we are gone forever.

I also belive we have a "soul" or something that will live on. Not sure where its goes or what happens.

This therory about getting "home" is a good one. It feels right.

As a kid I always felt that we would become free when we die. Like floting around everywhere, without the body. With the ability to be everywhere, on earth, in universe, where ever we want.
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If it just turned black and we were gone forever, then what would be the point? I mean, here we are, floating on this little blue marble in the middle of absolutely no where, and we are born, then 80 someodd years later we die. It makes no sense.

Obviously we have NO idea of what is really going on. We can't even fathom an end to the Universe. We aren't even thinking in the terms we need to understand what this Universe is all about. We don't have a clue.

But honestly, I think it's ok to not have a clue. I'd rather say, you know what? I don't know, and I'm really ok with that! Then to jump on some religious bandwagon that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside because they claim to know the truth. I honestly don't think any of us are going to meet a Wise Old man, with a long white beard.

The only thing that I do know, is that WE don't know. And because of that, I see no reason whatsoever for all of this to have no meaning.

What would happen if we all found out tomorrow that life after death really is bliss and a perfect peaceful happiness? We'd probably all knock ourselves off then, if we knew for sure, wouldn't we?

I think we're souls in search of wisdom. Once we get enough wisdom we're rewarded. I don't know what with. But my guess is that there are elevations of vibrations. With enough knowledge gathered, we have a better chance of getting to that level. Our souls aspire to that level. So we pick a certain situation to be born into, that'll give us a unique perspective on the world. An ant, for example,may have an extremely complicated and troubled life, but there's knowledge to be gained there. A bird, mammal, always hunting for food, more knowledge to be gained. Maybe our soul would choose to be born in a remote and desolate village in Africa as a black child who has so little to eat, they die within the first year. I would bet there is wisdom to be gained from that experience as well. Short as it may be.

May sound silly to most people, but I really think that's what it's all about. It's the only thing that makes sense. Everyone is living a life chosen by our own souls. We go through many cycles. Hopefully we'll get another life, and eventually get to a certain place.

One thing I know for sure, these physical bodies of ours, they don't matter. They're just a vessel to help get the job done.
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There is a reson I ask this here in this forum you know.

I think GLP is a quite a extraordinary place! Some of the smartest people I ever meet are here and the best theories about many differnt areas comes from here (in my mind anyway).

The coolest thing is this mix of people and opinions! Is like a big brain that goes thru many differnt thougts.

Is better that just your own brain, since it can limit you to your own grid of thinking.
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Regardless of religion, does something happen or is it the end. Are we gone?

Many have died in my family and my parents are old now. I just wonder if the "dead" are around in some way or if they are gone.

Not so intrested in the bible.
 Quoting: Mr. Andersson


why not Bible?I can prove it is real.that is the easy part.It describes nuclear weapons in DETAIL among other things.You die you cease to live.You lay in dust until resurrection which is SOON!
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Yes I know! This is very interesting! Have Read some about it.
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If a prediction is made in writing and it comes true, does that prove that writing comes from the hand of "god"?
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Nothing. Zip. You become dust.
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Nothing. Zip. You become dust.
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No, no that cant be it!

Must go for a bite to eat, and when I come back we are gonna crack this shit. We have all night!

tounge

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Yes this is also a possibility. But I dont like it.
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What's there to not like about it?

If our consciousness ceases to exist upon death, then you will never even know it. Poof! You're gone and that's that.

Personally, I believe our consciousness continues to exist, and the reason I believe this is because since I don't know for sure either way, I choose to believe what makes me "feel" the best.

As for Christianity and the claim that the God of the Bible is going to judge us, that is utter nonsense. The Bible is a control mechanism and for some of us, it is necessary. E.g. I know someone who is suicidal/homicidal and if it weren't for the fact that he fears going to hell, then he would go on a killing spree.
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Yes the bible have been a control mechanism for a long time now, thats why I have my doubts about it. It have happend a lot of bad things in the name of religion.

I just feel that hate, wars, killing and all that is connected to religion cant be the answer. But I accept if someone belives in a religion, just a bit tired of it myself.
 Quoting: Mr. Andersson
So are you going to repeat the lie that most wars are religious?most wars are not religious.Pol Pot Mao and Stalin for example.WW1 WW2 for another.
You may hate God but if you do not turn to Him you will regret it soon.
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Let me ask you this, do you love your god of the bible?

Do you also fear your god of the bible?

If you answer yes to both questions, then I would ask you to name one other thing that you both love and fear?

You see, right there is the most profound contradiction of the bible, i.e. to fear god, but to also love him.

This is not real love, but is a medical condition known as Stockholm Syndrome. If you are not familiar with Stockholm Syndrome, here's a link for you.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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"For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun." Ecclesiastes 9:5-6

"So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep." Job 14:12

"And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." Daniel 12:2

"Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation." John 5:28-29

Sorry you Originally requested "No Bible"

However I believe the Bible to be the Truth, it teaches a man sleeps until he/she is called fourth from their grave for eternal glory or damnation at their particular resurrection & judgement.

For the record:

I don't believe in an eternal Everlasting Hell, which would Badly misrepresent The Loving God who delights in mercy and Justice, as God Promised "the wages of Sin is Death"
{Not eternal torture}

So, if God is The God "who's incapable of Lies", than the unrepentant sinner will Die in their Sins as promised

Sodom and Gomorrah isn't still burning today, yet it was struck with hellfire ;)
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I think we become more tarded. Think about it. Ghost? Phhsshhh! Big deal. Go gonna be able to open doors and knock on walls. B.s.
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What's there to not like about it?

If our consciousness ceases to exist upon death, then you will never even know it. Poof! You're gone and that's that.

Personally, I believe our consciousness continues to exist, and the reason I believe this is because since I don't know for sure either way, I choose to believe what makes me "feel" the best.

As for Christianity and the claim that the God of the Bible is going to judge us, that is utter nonsense. The Bible is a control mechanism and for some of us, it is necessary. E.g. I know someone who is suicidal/homicidal and if it weren't for the fact that he fears going to hell, then he would go on a killing spree.
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Yes the bible have been a control mechanism for a long time now, thats why I have my doubts about it. It have happend a lot of bad things in the name of religion.

I just feel that hate, wars, killing and all that is connected to religion cant be the answer. But I accept if someone belives in a religion, just a bit tired of it myself.
 Quoting: Mr. Andersson
So are you going to repeat the lie that most wars are religious?most wars are not religious.Pol Pot Mao and Stalin for example.WW1 WW2 for another.
You may hate God but if you do not turn to Him you will regret it soon.
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Let me ask you this, do you love your god of the bible?

Do you also fear your god of the bible?

If you answer yes to both questions, then I would ask you to name one other thing that you both love and fear?

You see, right there is the most profound contradiction of the bible, i.e. to fear god, but to also love him.

This is not real love, but is a medical condition known as Stockholm Syndrome. If you are not familiar with Stockholm Syndrome, here's a link for you.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1409758

small children both Love and Fear their Parents who might paddle their rear end if they don't behavior themselves ;)

The Fear of God The word "fear" is slightly mistranslated it would be more correct in saying the "awe" of God.

[link to wiki.answers.com]
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"For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun." Ecclesiastes 9:5-6

"So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep." Job 14:12

"And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." Daniel 12:2

"Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation." John 5:28-29

Sorry you Originally requested "No Bible"

However I believe the Bible to be the Truth, it teaches a man sleeps until he/she is called fourth from their grave for eternal glory or damnation at their particular resurrection & judgement.

For the record:

I don't believe in an eternal Everlasting Hell, which would Badly misrepresent The Loving God who delights in mercy and Justice, as God Promised "the wages of Sin is Death"
{Not eternal torture}

So, if God is The God "who's incapable of Lies", than the unrepentant sinner will Die in their Sins as promised

Sodom and Gomorrah isn't still burning today, yet it was struck with hellfire ;)
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Tell me this, you're so comfortable with your book and your religion. Do you honestly thing that God came down and impregnated Mary with Jesus? Do you not think that that is a pretty big stretch? And that maybe Mary made up a HUGE story, to save face? And that now, there are many people who follow a book that makes no sense whatsoever because of one woman trying to cover up a scandal that happened a couple thousand years ago?
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Yes the bible have been a control mechanism for a long time now, thats why I have my doubts about it. It have happend a lot of bad things in the name of religion.

I just feel that hate, wars, killing and all that is connected to religion cant be the answer. But I accept if someone belives in a religion, just a bit tired of it myself.
 Quoting: Mr. Andersson
So are you going to repeat the lie that most wars are religious?most wars are not religious.Pol Pot Mao and Stalin for example.WW1 WW2 for another.
You may hate God but if you do not turn to Him you will regret it soon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13813766


Let me ask you this, do you love your god of the bible?

Do you also fear your god of the bible?

If you answer yes to both questions, then I would ask you to name one other thing that you both love and fear?

You see, right there is the most profound contradiction of the bible, i.e. to fear god, but to also love him.

This is not real love, but is a medical condition known as Stockholm Syndrome. If you are not familiar with Stockholm Syndrome, here's a link for you.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1409758

small children both Love and Fear their Parents who might paddle their rear end if they don't behavior themselves ;)

The Fear of God The word "fear" is slightly mistranslated it would be more correct in saying the "awe" of God.

[link to wiki.answers.com]
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Regardless of how it was translated. "Fear" is indeed an accurate description of most religions.

In truth, most religions preach 'fear' -- they spread 'fear' -- the seats are filled because of fear.

You're going to hell if you do this and that...if you don't accept god you're going to burn in a lake of fire and never die..if you drink that scotch you will be tormented by demons..etc..etc..

And, of course, the bible does clearly state things like "Casting into the lake of fire"

A small child's fear he's going to get in trouble for not brushing his teeth -- is not even a remotely fair comparison. A small child isn't living under constant fear like many religions are.
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Rinse and repeat.
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If it just turned black and we were gone forever, then what would be the point? I mean, here we are, floating on this little blue marble in the middle of absolutely no where, and we are born, then 80 someodd years later we die. It makes no sense...
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Why must their be a point?

We are composed of mostly carbon, water and a smattering of a few other elements and minerals animated by a few chemical reactions and electrical charges.

Why are we special? We are made of the same stuff as the asteroid that just passed by, the same stuff as the rings of Saturn, the same stuff that is on your dinner plate, the same stuff that your laptop is made of. Why do you assume there is a point?

As far as the universe is concerned, we're just another speck of dust.

The American journalist Roger Ebert said: "I know death is coming, and I do not fear it. I was perfectly content before I was born, and I think of death as the same state."

I think of death the same way as Roger.

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If it just turned black and we were gone forever, then what would be the point? I mean, here we are, floating on this little blue marble in the middle of absolutely no where, and we are born, then 80 someodd years later we die. It makes no sense...
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Why must their be a point?



As far as the universe is concerned, we're just another speck of dust.


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Because the universe is NOT concerned. ;) -- Only we are capable of such an amazing and beyond explanation gift.


We can explain the universe in much more detail than we can the genesis of consciousness.
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Yes the bible have been a control mechanism for a long time now, thats why I have my doubts about it. It have happend a lot of bad things in the name of religion.

I just feel that hate, wars, killing and all that is connected to religion cant be the answer. But I accept if someone belives in a religion, just a bit tired of it myself.
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So are you going to repeat the lie that most wars are religious?most wars are not religious.Pol Pot Mao and Stalin for example.WW1 WW2 for another.
You may hate God but if you do not turn to Him you will regret it soon.
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Let me ask you this, do you love your god of the bible?

Do you also fear your god of the bible?

If you answer yes to both questions, then I would ask you to name one other thing that you both love and fear?

You see, right there is the most profound contradiction of the bible, i.e. to fear god, but to also love him.

This is not real love, but is a medical condition known as Stockholm Syndrome. If you are not familiar with Stockholm Syndrome, here's a link for you.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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small children both Love and Fear their Parents who might paddle their rear end if they don't behavior themselves ;)

The Fear of God The word "fear" is slightly mistranslated it would be more correct in saying the "awe" of God.

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As a parent, I have never spanked my child. That is the lazy way to raise a child.

I have witnessed many parents spank their children out of anger, but never out of love.
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you decompose. anything and every single thing else is purely either wishful thinking or conjecture.
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"For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun." Ecclesiastes 9:5-6

"So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep." Job 14:12

"And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." Daniel 12:2

"Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation." John 5:28-29

Sorry you Originally requested "No Bible"

However I believe the Bible to be the Truth, it teaches a man sleeps until he/she is called fourth from their grave for eternal glory or damnation at their particular resurrection & judgement.

For the record:

I don't believe in an eternal Everlasting Hell, which would Badly misrepresent The Loving God who delights in mercy and Justice, as God Promised "the wages of Sin is Death"
{Not eternal torture}

So, if God is The God "who's incapable of Lies", than the unrepentant sinner will Die in their Sins as promised

Sodom and Gomorrah isn't still burning today, yet it was struck with hellfire ;)
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The god of the bible is a fiction invented for the purpose of control.

To claim it is the word of god is nonsense. Most people don't even know how the bible came into being, and I suspect you don't either.

The bible is a collection of writings from many different authors, most of which never make the claim that they are writing god's words. And even if they do make that claim, how can it possibly be proven? Today we have people that claim they are "channeling" higher realms and write down what they channel. Are these writings the word of god? Of course not and neither is the bible.
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If it just turned black and we were gone forever, then what would be the point? I mean, here we are, floating on this little blue marble in the middle of absolutely no where, and we are born, then 80 someodd years later we die. It makes no sense...
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Why must their be a point?



As far as the universe is concerned, we're just another speck of dust.


 Quoting: IFUK


Because the universe is NOT concerned. ;) -- Only we are capable of such an amazing and beyond explanation gift.


We can explain the universe in much more detail than we can the genesis of consciousness.
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Yeah, you didn't need to take that literally. I didn't mean the universe has cognitive abilities.
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Possibly nothing.
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Yes this is also a possibility. But I dont like it.
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What was it like before you were born?

I think we 'live on' after death through the influences we impart. So our choice is what to make of it.

hf
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Possibly nothing.
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Yes this is also a possibility. But I dont like it.
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What was it like before you were born?

I think we 'live on' after death through the influences we impart. So our choice is what to make of it.

hf
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How do you explain children dying of malnutrition in Africa?

What did they 'chose'?
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If it just turned black and we were gone forever, then what would be the point? I mean, here we are, floating on this little blue marble in the middle of absolutely no where, and we are born, then 80 someodd years later we die. It makes no sense...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32041464


Why must their be a point?



As far as the universe is concerned, we're just another speck of dust.


 Quoting: IFUK


Because the universe is NOT concerned. ;) -- Only we are capable of such an amazing and beyond explanation gift.


We can explain the universe in much more detail than we can the genesis of consciousness.
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Yeah, you didn't need to take that literally. I didn't mean the universe has cognitive abilities.
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lol, I realize that.



The point was within the language you take for granted. We all take for granted.


Meaning, when we say something like that it further belittles, shrinks, and in any other way -- makes light of our incredibly amazing ability. We ACTUALLY CAN consider the universe... In fact, just that fact alone, makes us more interesting, and amazing than anything else known in this massive universe. I think as a collective, we have forgot about this and don't really appreciate or explore this more.

I was just trying to point that out without spelling it out.
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What troubles me more than death, is the idea that injustice may stand uncompensated. I simply have to believe in "universal justice", or God, for a continued state of peace - even if I'm deluding myself. That's the primary reason that I cannot - and will not accept atheism. Atheism makes all things permissible - even desirable - if you follow the logic.
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Live goes on.


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The circle continues to go round.


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