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when the time comes to confiscate weapons of all types, guess who's going to bust your door down? Your local PD, all dressed up for war where you are the enemy. Its about time gun dealers recognized this.
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I go from one thread to another, in one the U.S. government a capable of destroying the twin towers and covering it up and fooling the world bar a fringe movement of Internet geniuses. Also able to fire a asteroid at Russia and has technology and capabilities that would make batman and superman jealous. But a small group of gun dealers, that's dealers not manufacturers will some how stop N.Y. law enforcement getting weapons is just funny.
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I go from one thread to another, in one the U.S. government a capable of destroying the twin towers and covering it up and fooling the world bar a fringe movement of Internet geniuses. Also able to fire a asteroid at Russia and has technology and capabilities that would make batman and superman jealous. But a small group of gun dealers, that's dealers not manufacturers will some how stop N.Y. law enforcement getting weapons is just funny.
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It's not about "stopping NY Law enforcement getting weapons". They are supporting the 2nd Amendment and the gun owner. Never mind...you wouldn't understand.
When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty. Thomas Jefferson
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all major firearms manufacturers should follow and support the people...smith and wesson, glock, sig, etc.

they were showing a picture of one of Dorner's weapons, its a .308 bolt action "sniper" rifle most likely a remington 700 so I could see the gun grabbers trying to ban bolt action rifles in the future using Dorner as an example. LA mayor, Villagrosa said that the city pension fund should divest its money away from investments made to firearms related industries and if that's the case, they shouldn't be purchasing any weapons at all...nothing but a bunch of liars and butt holes.
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I go from one thread to another, in one the U.S. government a capable of destroying the twin towers and covering it up and fooling the world bar a fringe movement of Internet geniuses. Also able to fire a asteroid at Russia and has technology and capabilities that would make batman and superman jealous. But a small group of gun dealers, that's dealers not manufacturers will some how stop N.Y. law enforcement getting weapons is just funny.
 Quoting: Pool 34173624


It's not about "stopping NY Law enforcement getting weapons". They are supporting the 2nd Amendment and the gun owner. Never mind...you wouldn't understand.
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Maybe not, there your laws and culture but what I do understand is that ever week there's another gun massacre. It's always legally held guns in a school, restraint, work place or other public place. At some point your laws are gonna need to change to restrict fire arms and who owns them.

Here in the U.K. if I get in a minor car crash or a argument with some or just sitting in a public place I don't need to worry about some one pulling a glock on me.......oohhh never mind you wouldn't understand.
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I go from one thread to another, in one the U.S. government a capable of destroying the twin towers and covering it up and fooling the world bar a fringe movement of Internet geniuses. Also able to fire a asteroid at Russia and has technology and capabilities that would make batman and superman jealous. But a small group of gun dealers, that's dealers not manufacturers will some how stop N.Y. law enforcement getting weapons is just funny.
 Quoting: Pool 34173624


It's not about "stopping NY Law enforcement getting weapons". They are supporting the 2nd Amendment and the gun owner. Never mind...you wouldn't understand.
 Quoting: Fire Watch


Maybe not, there your laws and culture but what I do understand is that ever week there's another gun massacre. It's always legally held guns in a school, restraint, work place or other public place. At some point your laws are gonna need to change to restrict fire arms and who owns them.

Here in the U.K. if I get in a minor car crash or a argument with some or just sitting in a public place I don't need to worry about some one pulling a glock on me.......oohhh never mind you wouldn't understand.
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There is a bigger picture...you would never understand.

Law abiding/legal gun owners are the backbone of this country.

Last Edited by Fire Watch on 02/16/2013 06:14 PM
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this is great!
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There is a bigger picture...you would never understand.

Law abiding/legal gun owners are the backbone of this country.


Thanks for the civil reply. I understand that this is highly controversial subject in America. That your worried if one part of the constitution is changed what else can they change. I also relies people died defending those rights, but they where soldiers. How many innocent people have to die so you can keep those rights.
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All you guys arguing over OWS, it's like this. The same thing happened to OWS that happened to the Tea Party. Though I'm not certain if they arose out of genuine efforts or some kind of conspiracy, they both ended up having their five minutes of fame and media coverage and then were gradually made irrelevant as the two parties co-oped the message of each. Their sentiments aren't entirely misguided, the problem is that each only focused on one part of the problem (the government for TP, big business and banks for OWS). Instead of realizing that these two forces are two sides of the same coin, their supporters were pitted against one another with the usual divide and conquer tactics.
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What I find so very strange is the tea partiers and OWS were not that far apart ideologically and yet they vehemently opposed each other as the enemy. Watch the video. It doesn't name who "They" are because if it did the movie would have never saw the light of day, that's why Carpenter used loosely concealed metaphors, JEWS DON'T GET METAPHORS FOR SOME REASON!
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And now the 2nd amendment guntards are next on the chopping block. divide and conquer bitchez.

Actually it's not even divide and conquer, but use the general apathy of the murkin people and do whatever you want because everyone eventually gets tired of watching besides, what's really important is... oh crap, I forgot american idol reruns are on. Gotta go!
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There is a bigger picture...you would never understand.

Law abiding/legal gun owners are the backbone of this country.
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actually, I'm pretty sure its illegal mexican workers. Really, without them, you're country would fall apart.
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There is a bigger picture...you would never understand.

Law abiding/legal gun owners are the backbone of this country.
 Quoting: Pool 34173624


Thanks for the civil reply. I understand that this is highly controversial subject in America. That your worried if one part of the constitution is changed what else can they change. I also relies people died defending those rights, but they where soldiers. How many innocent people have to die so you can keep those rights.








It is the fear of losing the rest of my rights that really bothers me. It is not about hunting or collecting guns. It is the last line of defense against a tyrranical government.
The entire free world should be very nervous if/when the guns are confiscated.

Last Edited by Fire Watch on 02/16/2013 06:31 PM
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Actually this makes plenty of sense anyway you slice it. Just as your average gun dealer would not knowingly sell a firearm to a violent killer, why should they then sell it to these states? If a gun dealer sold a firearm to John Wayne Gacey, the resulting publicity for the actions of his buyer could put him out of business. Why should gun dealers sell firearms to any entity that would endanger their business. Since these states are endangering the sellers business it makes plenty of sense not to do business with them.
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There is a bigger picture...you would never understand.

Law abiding/legal gun owners are the backbone of this country.
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Thanks for the civil reply. I understand that this is highly controversial subject in America. That your worried if one part of the constitution is changed what else can they change. I also relies people died defending those rights, but they where soldiers. How many innocent people have to die so you can keep those rights.
 Quoting: Fire Watch


It is the fear of losing the rest of my rights that really bothers me. It is not about hunting or collecting guns. It is the last line of defense against a tyrranical government.

The entire free world should be very nervous if/when the guns are confiscated.


I actually find it very interesting topic. My first post may of been combative due to the nature of a lot of the topics I read on here. I can only give a view from a country that has very restrictive policy on gun ownership.

Do you as I assume a gun owner actually really be leave that of a ban on assault weapons or other types of guns goes through that the next step would be restrictions on other parts of the constitution or is it just that you are worried that the government may stop your hobby. Sorry couldn't think of a better word than hobby. Also if weapons where ban in America would it have global implications.
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There is a bigger picture...you would never understand.

Law abiding/legal gun owners are the backbone of this country.
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Thanks for the civil reply. I understand that this is highly controversial subject in America. That your worried if one part of the constitution is changed what else can they change. I also relies people died defending those rights, but they where soldiers. How many innocent people have to die so you can keep those rights.
 Quoting: Fire Watch


It is the fear of losing the rest of my rights that really bothers me. It is not about hunting or collecting guns. It is the last line of defense against a tyrranical government.

The entire free world should be very nervous if/when the guns are confiscated.
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I actually find it very interesting topic. My first post may of been combative due to the nature of a lot of the topics I read on here. I can only give a view from a country that has very restrictive policy on gun ownership.

Do you as I assume a gun owner actually really be leave that of a ban on assault weapons or other types of guns goes through that the next step would be restrictions on other parts of the constitution or is it just that you are worried that the government may stop your hobby. Sorry couldn't think of a better word than hobby. Also if weapons where ban in America would it have global implications.






I absolutely believe that gun ownership is the only reason we have many of the freedoms we all enjoy. Losing our right to bear arms would only be the first domino to fall. I also believe it would have global implications.
The government wants to take the semi-automatic weapons for obvious reasons. This has NOTHING to do with my hobby and everything to do with the reasons I have outlined.

Last Edited by Fire Watch on 02/16/2013 07:05 PM
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There is a bigger picture...you would never understand.

Law abiding/legal gun owners are the backbone of this country.
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Thanks for the civil reply. I understand that this is highly controversial subject in America. That your worried if one part of the constitution is changed what else can they change. I also relies people died defending those rights, but they where soldiers. How many innocent people have to die so you can keep those rights.
 Quoting: Fire Watch


It is the fear of losing the rest of my rights that really bothers me. It is not about hunting or collecting guns. It is the last line of defense against a tyrranical government.

The entire free world should be very nervous if/when the guns are confiscated.
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I actually find it very interesting topic. My first post may of been combative due to the nature of a lot of the topics I read on here. I can only give a view from a country that has very restrictive policy on gun ownership.

Do you as I assume a gun owner actually really be leave that of a ban on assault weapons or other types of guns goes through that the next step would be restrictions on other parts of the constitution or is it just that you are worried that the government may stop your hobby. Sorry couldn't think of a better word than hobby. Also if weapons where ban in America would it have global implications.
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I absolutely believe that gun ownership is the only reason we have many of the freedoms we all enjoy. Losing our right to bear arms would only be the first domino to fall. I also believe it would have global implications.
The government wants to take the semi-automatic weapons for obvious reasons. This has NOTHING to do with my hobby and everything to do with the reasons I have outlined.


I can see your point on the domino effect but not the implications on a global scale.
The people you are afraid of taking away your liberty are the same people you as a nation voted into power. You must have some faith in them that they are not going to become tyrants.
I know you probably thinking dumb foreigner but I don't often get to ask Americans there views on gun ownership. Outside of the fire and brimstone preaching I read from both sides online.
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Thanks for the civil reply. I understand that this is highly controversial subject in America. That your worried if one part of the constitution is changed what else can they change. I also relies people died defending those rights, but they where soldiers. How many innocent people have to die so you can keep those rights.
 Quoting: Fire Watch


It is the fear of losing the rest of my rights that really bothers me. It is not about hunting or collecting guns. It is the last line of defense against a tyrranical government.

The entire free world should be very nervous if/when the guns are confiscated.
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I actually find it very interesting topic. My first post may of been combative due to the nature of a lot of the topics I read on here. I can only give a view from a country that has very restrictive policy on gun ownership.

Do you as I assume a gun owner actually really be leave that of a ban on assault weapons or other types of guns goes through that the next step would be restrictions on other parts of the constitution or is it just that you are worried that the government may stop your hobby. Sorry couldn't think of a better word than hobby. Also if weapons where ban in America would it have global implications.
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I absolutely believe that gun ownership is the only reason we have many of the freedoms we all enjoy. Losing our right to bear arms would only be the first domino to fall. I also believe it would have global implications.
The government wants to take the semi-automatic weapons for obvious reasons. This has NOTHING to do with my hobby and everything to do with the reasons I have outlined.
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I can see your point on the domino effect but not the implications on a global scale.
The people you are afraid of taking away your liberty are the same people you as a nation voted into power. You must have some faith in them that they are not going to become tyrants.
I know you probably thinking dumb foreigner but I don't often get to ask Americans there views on gun ownership. Outside of the fire and brimstone preaching I read from both sides online.





The unions, permanent government program recipients, students and the extreme left voted Obama in to office.

The producers/taxpayers knew this would happen but there are more takers than producers. This country is pretty fucked...pardon my french.

Last Edited by Fire Watch on 02/16/2013 07:36 PM
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Thanks for the civil reply. I understand that this is highly controversial subject in America. That your worried if one part of the constitution is changed what else can they change. I also relies people died defending those rights, but they where soldiers. How many innocent people have to die so you can keep those rights.
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It is the fear of losing the rest of my rights that really bothers me. It is not about hunting or collecting guns. It is the last line of defense against a tyrranical government.

The entire free world should be very nervous if/when the guns are confiscated.
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I actually find it very interesting topic. My first post may of been combative due to the nature of a lot of the topics I read on here. I can only give a view from a country that has very restrictive policy on gun ownership.

Do you as I assume a gun owner actually really be leave that of a ban on assault weapons or other types of guns goes through that the next step would be restrictions on other parts of the constitution or is it just that you are worried that the government may stop your hobby. Sorry couldn't think of a better word than hobby. Also if weapons where ban in America would it have global implications.
 Quoting: Fire Watch






I absolutely believe that gun ownership is the only reason we have many of the freedoms we all enjoy. Losing our right to bear arms would only be the first domino to fall. I also believe it would have global implications.
The government wants to take the semi-automatic weapons for obvious reasons. This has NOTHING to do with my hobby and everything to do with the reasons I have outlined.
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I can see your point on the domino effect but not the implications on a global scale.
The people you are afraid of taking away your liberty are the same people you as a nation voted into power. You must have some faith in them that they are not going to become tyrants.
I know you probably thinking dumb foreigner but I don't often get to ask Americans there views on gun ownership. Outside of the fire and brimstone preaching I read from both sides online.




I have many friends in Europe so I am not surprised that you don't understand. They all love Obama, hated Bush and are not ashamed to admit to socialist leanings. They are also very successful business people. I can't figure that out...kind of like you trying to understand the gun issue.

Last Edited by Fire Watch on 02/16/2013 07:56 PM
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There is a bigger picture...you would never understand.

Law abiding/legal gun owners are the backbone of this country.
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Thanks for the civil reply. I understand that this is highly controversial subject in America. That your worried if one part of the constitution is changed what else can they change. I also relies people died defending those rights, but they where soldiers. How many innocent people have to die so you can keep those rights.


They were NOT soldiers, they were colonist prob mostly farmers.
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There is a bigger picture...you would never understand.

Law abiding/legal gun owners are the backbone of this country.
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Thanks for the civil reply. I understand that this is highly controversial subject in America. That your worried if one part of the constitution is changed what else can they change. I also relies people died defending those rights, but they where soldiers. How many innocent people have to die so you can keep those rights.
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They were NOT soldiers, they were colonist prob mostly farmers.


governments murdered 300 million of their own disarmed citizens in the 20th century. I don't want to see that here or anywhere. The second amendment prevents that here and will as long as it exists.
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The unions, permanent government program recipients, students and the extreme left voted Obama in to office.

The producers/taxpayers knew this would happen but there are more takers than producers. This country is pretty fucked...pardon my french.


At least you have a right and left, we just have a left even our right are liberals.
One more question is there any restrictions you would impose on gun ownership even if it went against the 2nd amendment. I'm talking everthing from magazine size, types of weapons, caliber of rounds, should ex criminals or people the mental health problems be aloud to own guns any thing at all.
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The unions, permanent government program recipients, students and the extreme left voted Obama in to office.

The producers/taxpayers knew this would happen but there are more takers than producers. This country is pretty fucked...pardon my french.
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At least you have a right and left, we just have a left even our right are liberals.
One more question is there any restrictions you would impose on gun ownership even if it went against the 2nd amendment. I'm talking everthing from magazine size, types of weapons, caliber of rounds, should ex criminals or people the mental health problems be aloud to own guns any thing at all.


IF the police didn't have tanks and drones, explosives is the only thing I would've banned.
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The unions, permanent government program recipients, students and the extreme left voted Obama in to office.

The producers/taxpayers knew this would happen but there are more takers than producers. This country is pretty fucked...pardon my french.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34173624


At least you have a right and left, we just have a left even our right are liberals.
One more question is there any restrictions you would impose on gun ownership even if it went against the 2nd amendment. I'm talking everthing from magazine size, types of weapons, caliber of rounds, should ex criminals or people the mental health problems be aloud to own guns any thing at all.





If I made the rules, felons would forfeit their right to gun ownership. The truly mentally ill should not have guns either. The problem is who decides if you are mentally ill? I fear that the governemt would abuse this and consider 75% of the citizens mentally unfit...or everyone! What is normal? This is a slippery slope.

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That one company that won't do this is gonna make a shitload of money selling guns to the state.
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until the rest realize this, and realize that unity only goes so far and that most americans are apathetic and don't care as long as it doesn't immediately affect their ability to watch tv, drink beer and eat tacos.


Then the rest will fall back in line and start selling again to whoever has money, badges, or no stinking badges.

All you guntards blew it when you wouldn't support OWS and the first amendment. Now it's too late.
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Listen, you Canadian buttfucker, American gun owners are united on this issue. We aren't the lazy, useless, frightened sissies who would be so comfortable and fit right in to Canadian society.

And OWS was for homosexuals and HIV-positive Communist child molesters. It figures they're your heroes.
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i'm a gun owner and i stand nowhere near a homophobic pedophile like you acusing others of what you probably are. i'm not OWS but they were not what you say they were. i'm a gun owner that is in a complete opposite mind frame from you so know we aren't all united.
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