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BREAKING: 'Sheriffs first,' gun bills clear Montana House committee!!

 
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HELENA – Montana moved a step closer Friday to declaring that local sheriffs are the supreme law of the land and trying to nullify any federal crackdown on assault rifles.

The measures were among a slate of gun rights bills that cleared the Legislature’s House Judiciary Committee and now head to the House floor.

Other measures that advanced would let college students bring guns on campus, allow high school students to leave guns locked in their cars, and clear the way for nearly anyone to carry concealed weapons without a permit.

Several of the bills met with staunch opposition from Democrats.

The so-called “sheriffs first” bill says federal agents must get a sheriff’s permission before making arrests or serving warrants – or risk local kidnapping or trespassing charges.

If the bill clears the Republican-controlled House and Senate, it would go directly to voters in 2014. The direct referendum would avoid the potential veto pen of Gov. Steve Bullock, a Democrat.

Supporters said it is a necessary check on the power of federal law enforcement agencies,

The measure was opposed earlier in the week at a hearing by local law enforcement agencies, and critics have said such a measure most certainly would face a legal challenge.

Opponents, led by Democrats, warned it would threaten the effectiveness of cooperative task forces tracking violent crime and drugs.

[link to missoulian.com]
 Quoting: TheTruthNeverLies


Vote by 2014?

rofl

By that time anyone who would vote for it will be either

A: Disarmed already

B: Arrested already

or

C: Dead already.

I am not saying it is a good thing...because it is but for this to have any value it should have been passed 10 years ago.

As of now...stick a fork in it...were done.

Sad but true.
 Quoting: PIR


yah. wth? 2014?
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02/16/2013 11:53 AM
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5a

And they're not assault rifles.

They're PERSONAL DEFENSE WEAPONS!
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A true PDW would be a short barreled rifle with selective fire, large magazine, collapsible buttstock, and a quick target acquisition system for low light situations. Much of this is not easily available to the civilian.
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02/16/2013 11:55 AM
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Why is Montana voting on something that already IS the law of the land??

[link to cspoa.org]

Sherrif Mack sued the government in the mid 1990s saying the Brady Bill forced sherrifs to violate their oath of office by going against the 2nd Ammendment - and he won!

If everyone knew the power that our local sherrifs have, we could take this country back.
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This is propoganda, brainwashing. The fact is that the Sherriffs ARE the highest law in the land already. The Cocstitution gives them authority over their territory which includes any feds that may trespass. Remeber the federal authoritie, according to the Constitution, only exists in the 10(?) sq mile area that is D.C.! The power they have outside of that area is by the ignorance and fear of the poulace and the criminal acquiescience of the sherriffs up until this point. They are using this platform to make the people believe that they must still vote this measure in (giving the sherriffs the power they already have), I believe they are doing this so that when it fails the people will mourn and relent but will be more apt to cave to the fed. After all the law didnt pass. Or it may pass but with failed consequences.
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HELENA – Montana moved a step closer Friday to declaring that local sheriffs are the supreme law of the land and trying to nullify any federal crackdown on assault rifles.

The measures were among a slate of gun rights bills that cleared the Legislature’s House Judiciary Committee and now head to the House floor.

Other measures that advanced would let college students bring guns on campus, allow high school students to leave guns locked in their cars, and clear the way for nearly anyone to carry concealed weapons without a permit.

Several of the bills met with staunch opposition from Democrats.

The so-called “sheriffs first” bill says federal agents must get a sheriff’s permission before making arrests or serving warrants – or risk local kidnapping or trespassing charges.

If the bill clears the Republican-controlled House and Senate, it would go directly to voters in 2014. The direct referendum would avoid the potential veto pen of Gov. Steve Bullock, a Democrat.

Supporters said it is a necessary check on the power of federal law enforcement agencies,

The measure was opposed earlier in the week at a hearing by local law enforcement agencies, and critics have said such a measure most certainly would face a legal challenge.

Opponents, led by Democrats, warned it would threaten the effectiveness of cooperative task forces tracking violent crime and drugs.

[link to missoulian.com]
 Quoting: TheTruthNeverLies


Vote by 2014?

rofl

By that time anyone who would vote for it will be either

A: Disarmed already

B: Arrested already

or

C: Dead already.

I am not saying it is a good thing...because it is but for this to have any value it should have been passed 10 years ago.

As of now...stick a fork in it...were done.

Sad but true.
 Quoting: PIR


Well, Personally I think it is great. First off. If it was passed 10 years ago or 10 minutes ago, it still holds little bite. What it does do though, is show the FEDS that we are not going to stand for their shit and if they are intent upon continuing down this path to abolish or, demolish the Second Amendment,possibly the constitution altogether, their will be a fight. A literal FIGHT. Not simply words exchanged.

I do not think that it will have much impact on their decision making process though, as they already have their plans in motion and they are too far along to start back-peddling now. I don't think they have any intention of back-peddling anyway. I think they want a reason to declare Martial Law and then, most likely shut off the food supply "we all know most people can't go a day without the grocery store". So, after a few days, people begin to kill their neighbors for their food and supplies and after a month or so, only the "Hard Core" are left over, that and a few smarter ones who simply became invisible.

After that, then they send in UN Peacekeepers, Not US troops, to "restore order" they bring out those nice new FEMA Coffins and the rest, as they say, will be "unwritten" history.
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the best way to "track"/even find dangerous drug-usage is to stop criminalizing them and the users. Let the people handle it.

Obviously corrupt-government's idiotic "tracking", and criminalization of drugs hasnot worked,
boringor has no one noticed that glaring fact?-

-so try something different for a while.-

-and why hasnot that been done already, after of these years and generations of failure?

Because ithas been a tax-free profit-boon for our Mafia-owned, hapless servants, deceitfully masquerading as our government. [our servants are in our kitchen stealing our silverware, while their overseer is in default due to perpetual vacation and treason]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1259776



RED ALERT!! OBAMA TO FEDERALIZE LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS:
[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1259776


Cops need funding..National drug laws allow them to stage raids and confiscate everything they see. The departments, usually with a politically appointed chief, take on government programs with rights-restricting attachments for one reason...federal funding. This said, the cops seem to be "federalized" already.

The guy on youtube makes an assertion in a rabid manner. Whether he's right or wrong, HE PRESENTS ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF OF HIS ASSERTION! It is like those threads that link prophetic numbers in movies with current events..attention seekers who search for obscure connections end in tangled confusion.

You can be sure the the shills point out these connection-making stretches of imagination to the sheep.. The mindwashing "guardians" use them to convince Joe America to dismiss the many, many pages of documented solid evidence that internet researchers can and do provide.

Truth about truth..
Most people don't want to hear the truth in the first place..when a little untruth that people are sure to notice is included. They have grounds to rationalize their refusal to listen.

Another truth...
They who control you are the ones you cannot criticize.
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Re: BREAKING: 'Sheriffs first,' gun bills clear Montana House committee!!
HELENA – Montana moved a step closer Friday to declaring that local sheriffs are the supreme law of the land and trying to nullify any federal crackdown on assault rifles.

The measures were among a slate of gun rights bills that cleared the Legislature’s House Judiciary Committee and now head to the House floor.

Other measures that advanced would let college students bring guns on campus, allow high school students to leave guns locked in their cars, and clear the way for nearly anyone to carry concealed weapons without a permit.

Several of the bills met with staunch opposition from Democrats.

The so-called “sheriffs first” bill says federal agents must get a sheriff’s permission before making arrests or serving warrants – or risk local kidnapping or trespassing charges.

If the bill clears the Republican-controlled House and Senate, it would go directly to voters in 2014. The direct referendum would avoid the potential veto pen of Gov. Steve Bullock, a Democrat.

Supporters said it is a necessary check on the power of federal law enforcement agencies,

The measure was opposed earlier in the week at a hearing by local law enforcement agencies, and critics have said such a measure most certainly would face a legal challenge.

Opponents, led by Democrats, warned it would threaten the effectiveness of cooperative task forces tracking violent crime and drugs.

[link to missoulian.com]
 Quoting: TheTruthNeverLies


Was not very long ago in Texas our children brought their guns to school in their vehicles. We could bring guns to Church.... I never remember a problem in my community, over 36 years...
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i remebr that too
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When I was in high school, in Idaho back in the 80s, half the pickups had a rifle/shotgun in the back window during hunting season. Nothing like a little grouse hunting after school let out!
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Do some research into the origin of the word "Sheriff". The "Shire Reeves" were the law enforcers and tax collectors in the counties for the "king" of England in the 1600's.

"The word "sheriff" is a contraction of the term "shire reeve". The term, from the Old English scīrgerefa, designated a royal official responsible for keeping the peace (a "reeve") throughout a shire or county on behalf of the king".( [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Wasn't a revolutionary war fought by patriots to escape the rule of the "king of England"? Whats up wit dat?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14579509


So you think what the word meant from England is what our law of the land is? Try that argument in court.

We have different laws and a different set up than does England.

For instance, England has no 1st amendment. Yet our first amendment has English words in it. Does that mean our first amendment is no good - because the words come from England?
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02/16/2013 03:23 PM
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Your country is completely in the fucking Stone Age.


Congratulations.
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Your country is completely in the fucking Stone Age.


Congratulations.
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lets see your carry gun...
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Just say no to universal background checks!

UBC's are just a tricky conniving way for getting universal registration, and registration is required for confiscation.
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Just say no to universal background checks!

UBC's are just a tricky conniving way for getting universal registration, and registration is required for confiscation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34464973


This is propoganda, brainwashing. The fact is that the Sherriffs ARE the highest law in the land already. The Cocstitution gives them authority over their territory which includes any feds that may trespass. Remeber the federal authoritie, according to the Constitution, only exists in the 10(?) sq mile area that is D.C.! The power they have outside of that area is by the ignorance and fear of the poulace and the criminal acquiescience of the sherriffs up until this point. They are using this platform to make the people believe that they must still vote this measure in (giving the sherriffs the power they already have), I believe they are doing this so that when it fails the people will mourn and relent but will be more apt to cave to the fed. After all the law didnt pass. Or it may pass but with failed consequences.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27919314


Likely


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