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Obama administration creates policy to sue businesses that donít hire ex-convicts.

 
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People when will you realize that these types of "laws" are oprressive.

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do not comply
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there Are ways around this
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well i got out in 1990 from doing 14 months, my total time growing up is about 5 yrs. from being in and out, since out in 1990 i have never been arrested and sober free, and yes discharged from parole in 94 my cases were only drug related and still cant get a job from a bussiness, once they see exfellon written down for being honest etc. boom application denide
Saying that consideration of arrest and conviction records have a disparate impact on blacks because they are 7 times more likely to have an arrest record than whites,Obama has set into action new hiring guidelines making it illegal to purposefully not hire someone because they have an arrest record.The Obama administration stated that because blacks are 7 times more likely to have criminal convictions than whites,employers refusing to hire convicts are disproportionally targeting blacks and these businesses will therefore be sued by the attorney general if they don`t comply and refuse to hire criminals. [link to www.newsmax.com]
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finally we can all take our chance to see if crime pays!
if not, back to the job ...
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So.....the current regime can force lawful business owners to hire black felons or make the business owner a felon if he/she does not hire a black felon?
Hmmmm....in a rational world....this does not compute.
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Serious question:


do you really believe that ex-cons would be any WORSE than what they have working now?

Not possible.
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There are already tax breaks and other incentives for employers who feel they can take the chance and hire ex-cons.

What is proposed here (if the OP and Newsmax article are correct) is the government forbidding employers from protecting themselves by sometimes NOT hiring ex-cons.

This is another example of forced association. For some businesses and some types of work, ex-cons just aren't suited.

It's very very concerning to see these idiots push from offering incentives and money to threatening suits.
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Welcome to obutthole's new AmeriKa. Part II.
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It is a bit screwed up that if you do the time and get out people won't hire you. What are they supposed to do to make money, commit more crime?
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YES now maybe i can find a job


i was arested when i turned 18 now im 23 and my arest NOT a conviction because it waas defered adjudication still messes me up with getting threw the background checks


YESS something i can agree with
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If one has served their time and paid their debt to society, the stigma should end. Otherwise, ex-cons will have little choice but to return to a life of crime.
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this is great! They always say employers are not supposed to discriminate when hiring and this was always the un written exception. Hogwash.......EVERYONE makes mistakes in life. EVERYONE diserves a second chance.
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Two smart people. Thanks for sticking up for us that screwed up earlier in life. :)
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That's different than repeated broken laws and also serious felony charges. For minor stuff from a long time ago, I don't care as long as they are productive. It's the serious stuff that you're worried about.
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I know most of you tards are out of touch with reality, but even you schizos should be able to understand that barring ex-cons from getting jobs will only encourage them to relapse into crime.
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We have a winner. Is there a prize? I'm serious.
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Can't come up with an actual argument? Of course not. How foolish of me to expect anything coherent from a dumbass. I won't make that mistake again.
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You should hire them
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If one has served their time and paid their debt to society, the stigma should end. Otherwise, ex-cons will have little choice but to return to a life of crime.
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this is great! They always say employers are not supposed to discriminate when hiring and this was always the un written exception. Hogwash.......EVERYONE makes mistakes in life. EVERYONE diserves a second chance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32139717


Two smart people. Thanks for sticking up for us that screwed up earlier in life. :)
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If one has served their time and paid their debt to society, the stigma should end. Otherwise, ex-cons will have little choice but to return to a life of crime.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17152779


this is great! They always say employers are not supposed to discriminate when hiring and this was always the un written exception. Hogwash.......EVERYONE makes mistakes in life. EVERYONE diserves a second chance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32139717


Two smart people. Thanks for sticking up for us that screwed up earlier in life. :)
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clappa
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If one has served their time and paid their debt to society, the stigma should end. Otherwise, ex-cons will have little choice but to return to a life of crime.
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|I read in an article a few months ago that 67 million of our 310 (at the time) million population had been arrested at one time in their lives. That is a raw number, not excluding non-convictions.

Oh - and 80% of those in prison are due to the drug laws.
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I was convicted of a felony 24 years ago. I really would like to see a society where "you paid your debt to society" is more than just lip service.

Post 9-11 society has it to where now you can't even get a job as a greeter at WalMart if you have a record, at all. I say "post 9-11" because prior to that event, I was managing fortune 500 companies and made a decent living wage.

I would like to see a limit to how far back some employers are allowed to search. 7-10 years seems to be a fair number to me.

All that said, an employer has a right to decide who he wants on his team or not. I think this is utter bullshit.
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Is this Bernie.....?
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People could make all kinds of laws for everyone else, but exempt themselves

Lead by example.....
Hire a couple of child molesters to work in WH maintenance
Hire peso files in Secret Service

The truth of the matter is we do not have a president....
He cannot prove his eligibility
So, if arrested because of any of his laws, who has the Uthority to make those laws? All should be null and void.
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Dont we already have eneough criminals in the Gov employ.
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I was convicted of a felony 24 years ago. I really would like to see a society where "you paid your debt to society" is more than just lip service.

Post 9-11 society has it to where now you can't even get a job as a greeter at WalMart if you have a record, at all. I say "post 9-11" because prior to that event, I was managing fortune 500 companies and made a decent living wage.

I would like to see a limit to how far back some employers are allowed to search. 7-10 years seems to be a fair number to me.

All that said, an employer has a right to decide who he wants on his team or not. I think this is utter bullshit.
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Is this Bernie.....?
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No my name is not Bernie, sorry.
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We are all convicts, just that some of us haven't been convicted yet or got away with it. People need to quit acting like they are so innocent.
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What I don't get is how you can stand there and demand that employers be forced to employ someone whether they want to do so or not. This isn't a matter of minority status, which is already required for businesses to receive any government contracts, but specifically the convicted.

Why do you think I should be forced to hire you just because you served time, if I think it is not in my best interest to do so?

There are millions of ex-cons working, perhaps not as many as would like but with 24% real unemployment, as bad as the worst slump of the 1930's great depression, employers can hire overqualified people to sweep their floors.
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Saying that consideration of arrest and conviction records have a disparate impact on blacks because they are 7 times more likely to have an arrest record than whites,Obama has set into action new hiring guidelines making it illegal to purposefully not hire someone because they have an arrest record.The Obama administration stated that because blacks are 7 times more likely to have criminal convictions than whites,employers refusing to hire convicts are disproportionally targeting blacks and these businesses will therefore be sued by the attorney general if they don`t comply and refuse to hire criminals. [link to www.newsmax.com]
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No business should be FORCED to hire a convicted felon.

If I was an employer, I'd be damned sure that a felonious applicant was NEVER "the most qualified".

Obama is the most OPENLY racist president we've ever had.
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Saying that consideration of arrest and conviction records have a disparate impact on blacks because they are 7 times more likely to have an arrest record than whites,Obama has set into action new hiring guidelines making it illegal to purposefully not hire someone because they have an arrest record.The Obama administration stated that because blacks are 7 times more likely to have criminal convictions than whites,employers refusing to hire convicts are disproportionally targeting blacks and these businesses will therefore be sued by the attorney general if they don`t comply and refuse to hire criminals. [link to www.newsmax.com]
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No business should be FORCED to hire a convicted felon.

If I was an employer, I'd be damned sure that a felonious applicant was NEVER "the most qualified".

Obama is the most OPENLY racist president we've ever had.
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whatever
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The problem is that within the existing population the level of intelligence is so low and the result is so dreadful that the entire population must be carefully screened to aquire every intelligent mind that might be available to participate in pulling the nation from the incredible quagmire of stupidity that it now finds itself in.
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Just setting up job security for himself and his friends.
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Saying that consideration of arrest and conviction records have a disparate impact on blacks because they are 7 times more likely to have an arrest record than whites,Obama has set into action new hiring guidelines making it illegal to purposefully not hire someone because they have an arrest record.The Obama administration stated that because blacks are 7 times more likely to have criminal convictions than whites,employers refusing to hire convicts are disproportionally targeting blacks and these businesses will therefore be sued by the attorney general if they don`t comply and refuse to hire criminals. [link to www.newsmax.com]
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Your avatar is REALLY annoying
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Saying that consideration of arrest and conviction records have a disparate impact on blacks because they are 7 times more likely to have an arrest record than whites,Obama has set into action new hiring guidelines making it illegal to purposefully not hire someone because they have an arrest record.The Obama administration stated that because blacks are 7 times more likely to have criminal convictions than whites,employers refusing to hire convicts are disproportionally targeting blacks and these businesses will therefore be sued by the attorney general if they don`t comply and refuse to hire criminals. [link to www.newsmax.com]
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Your avatar is REALLY annoying
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I was convicted of a felony 24 years ago. I really would like to see a society where "you paid your debt to society" is more than just lip service.

Post 9-11 society has it to where now you can't even get a job as a greeter at WalMart if you have a record, at all. I say "post 9-11" because prior to that event, I was managing fortune 500 companies and made a decent living wage.

I would like to see a limit to how far back some employers are allowed to search. 7-10 years seems to be a fair number to me.

All that said, an employer has a right to decide who he wants on his team or not. I think this is utter bullshit.
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Yes, even though I have misdemeanors, I agree. Give Americans a freaking break. We're already working slave jobs for paper. Like I said earlier, do as the UK does. No one responded to that one for some reason.
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Its called a "Right To Work State" move there..Va is one
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YES now maybe i can find a job


i was arested when i turned 18 now im 23 and my arest NOT a conviction because it waas defered adjudication still messes me up with getting threw the background checks


YESS something i can agree with
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More rights stripped from the American People, something that everybody here bitches about everyday but this is ok because it benefits you. Thats what wrong with all you monkeys. You don't care about rights being stripped if it benefits you but care about rights being stripped if it effects you.. Fuck you all you fuckin hypocrites!
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I was convicted of a felony 24 years ago. I really would like to see a society where "you paid your debt to society" is more than just lip service.

Post 9-11 society has it to where now you can't even get a job as a greeter at WalMart if you have a record, at all. I say "post 9-11" because prior to that event, I was managing fortune 500 companies and made a decent living wage.

I would like to see a limit to how far back some employers are allowed to search. 7-10 years seems to be a fair number to me.

All that said, an employer has a right to decide who he wants on his team or not. I think this is utter bullshit.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


Yes, even though I have misdemeanors, I agree. Give Americans a freaking break. We're already working slave jobs for paper. Like I said earlier, do as the UK does. No one responded to that one for some reason.
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I'm on probation for drug related stuff (pot), and as soon as prospective employers see that I'm not hired. Its BS.
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If a person gets a record, they will never work again even though they did their time. the number of criminals will sky rocket if none of them are ever hired to work.

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