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| krosty Working Class User ID: 15571780 02/16/2013 10:18 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So many people against humanitarian principles in our society. That's why our species will leach itself to death. Quoting: krosty Humanitarian principles? LOL... FORCING people to take in convicted criminals into their places of business is "humanitarian"?? I suppose that you think it's "humanitarian" to FUCK OVER business owners, and put them in danger... eh? You'll fuck over the business owners and YOURSELF with more taxes for private prisons because if these "ex-cons" can't get legal work, it is much easier to become a con artist, a drug dealer or a thief on YOUR streets. These snooty business owners everyone portrays and protects here can burn in hell. When those convicts have no means of survival when you turn them down I hope they go steal their food from you. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30357815 02/16/2013 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So many people against humanitarian principles in our society. That's why our species will leach itself to death. Quoting: krosty Humanitarian principles? LOL... FORCING people to take in convicted criminals into their places of business is "humanitarian"?? I suppose that you think it's "humanitarian" to FUCK OVER business owners, and put them in danger... eh? You'll fuck over the business owners and YOURSELF with more taxes for private prisons because if these "ex-cons" can't get legal work, it is much easier to become a con artist, a drug dealer or a thief on YOUR streets. These snooty business owners everyone portrays and protects here can burn in hell. When those convicts have no means of survival when you turn them down I hope they go steal their food from you. Agreed. It's not just felons, bank robbers, etc. Busted for pot and a DUI 16 years ago. Why should I still suffer? Looks like the retards took over the thread. |
| krosty Working Class User ID: 15571780 02/16/2013 10:27 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So many people against humanitarian principles in our society. That's why our species will leach itself to death. Quoting: krosty Humanitarian principles? LOL... FORCING people to take in convicted criminals into their places of business is "humanitarian"?? I suppose that you think it's "humanitarian" to FUCK OVER business owners, and put them in danger... eh? You'll fuck over the business owners and YOURSELF with more taxes for private prisons because if these "ex-cons" can't get legal work, it is much easier to become a con artist, a drug dealer or a thief on YOUR streets. These snooty business owners everyone portrays and protects here can burn in hell. When those convicts have no means of survival when you turn them down I hope they go steal their food from you. Agreed. It's not just felons, bank robbers, etc. Busted for pot and a DUI 16 years ago. Why should I still suffer? Looks like the retards took over the thread. You probably lived in a rich community where the cops have nothing better to do but appease the rich with their overwhelming presence as well. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25063986 02/16/2013 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So many people against humanitarian principles in our society. That's why our species will leach itself to death. Quoting: krosty Humanitarian principles? LOL... FORCING people to take in convicted criminals into their places of business is "humanitarian"?? I suppose that you think it's "humanitarian" to FUCK OVER business owners, and put them in danger... eh? You'll fuck over the business owners and YOURSELF with more taxes for private prisons because if these "ex-cons" can't get legal work, it is much easier to become a con artist, a drug dealer or a thief on YOUR streets. These snooty business owners everyone portrays and protects here can burn in hell. When those convicts have no means of survival when you turn them down I hope they go steal their food from you. Its called trust and respect. everyone needs to show both. its not given its EARNED. Y don't these peps go out and do 100-200 hr off community stuff and then ask for a job? a job is earned not given.. give me a reason. |
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| krosty Working Class User ID: 15571780 02/16/2013 10:30 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So many people against humanitarian principles in our society. That's why our species will leach itself to death. Quoting: krosty Humanitarian principles? LOL... FORCING people to take in convicted criminals into their places of business is "humanitarian"?? I suppose that you think it's "humanitarian" to FUCK OVER business owners, and put them in danger... eh? You'll fuck over the business owners and YOURSELF with more taxes for private prisons because if these "ex-cons" can't get legal work, it is much easier to become a con artist, a drug dealer or a thief on YOUR streets. These snooty business owners everyone portrays and protects here can burn in hell. When those convicts have no means of survival when you turn them down I hope they go steal their food from you. Its called trust and respect. everyone needs to show both. its not given its EARNED. Y don't these peps go out and do 100-200 hr off community stuff and then ask for a job? a job is earned not given.. give me a reason. They earned respect by doing their time. They'll earn their trust when they are given a chance to do so. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25063986 02/16/2013 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34370993 Humanitarian principles? LOL... FORCING people to take in convicted criminals into their places of business is "humanitarian"?? I suppose that you think it's "humanitarian" to FUCK OVER business owners, and put them in danger... eh? You'll fuck over the business owners and YOURSELF with more taxes for private prisons because if these "ex-cons" can't get legal work, it is much easier to become a con artist, a drug dealer or a thief on YOUR streets. These snooty business owners everyone portrays and protects here can burn in hell. When those convicts have no means of survival when you turn them down I hope they go steal their food from you. Its called trust and respect. everyone needs to show both. its not given its EARNED. Y don't these peps go out and do 100-200 hr off community stuff and then ask for a job? a job is earned not given.. give me a reason. They earned respect by doing their time. They'll earn their trust when they are given a chance to do so. NO!! They were FORCED to do there time. Why not do some good when NOT FORCE too? |
| CatBTX User ID: 19108954 02/16/2013 10:33 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34370993 Humanitarian principles? LOL... FORCING people to take in convicted criminals into their places of business is "humanitarian"?? I suppose that you think it's "humanitarian" to FUCK OVER business owners, and put them in danger... eh? You'll fuck over the business owners and YOURSELF with more taxes for private prisons because if these "ex-cons" can't get legal work, it is much easier to become a con artist, a drug dealer or a thief on YOUR streets. These snooty business owners everyone portrays and protects here can burn in hell. When those convicts have no means of survival when you turn them down I hope they go steal their food from you. Its called trust and respect. everyone needs to show both. its not given its EARNED. Y don't these peps go out and do 100-200 hr off community stuff and then ask for a job? a job is earned not given.. give me a reason. They earned respect by doing their time. They'll earn their trust when they are given a chance to do so. They earned respect by doing their time? Are you kidding me? You don't have a clue what the word respect means. Idiot! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33389306 02/16/2013 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was convicted of a felony 24 years ago. I really would like to see a society where "you paid your debt to society" is more than just lip service. Quoting: Sir Phydeau Post 9-11 society has it to where now you can't even get a job as a greeter at WalMart if you have a record, at all. I say "post 9-11" because prior to that event, I was managing fortune 500 companies and made a decent living wage. I would like to see a limit to how far back some employers are allowed to search. 7-10 years seems to be a fair number to me. All that said, an employer has a right to decide who he wants on his team or not. I think this is utter bullshit. Yes, even though I have misdemeanors, I agree. Give Americans a freaking break. We're already working slave jobs for paper. Like I said earlier, do as the UK does. No one responded to that one for some reason. I'm on probation for drug related stuff (pot), and as soon as prospective employers see that I'm not hired. Its BS. If you break the law, you have to deal with the consequences. And if employers don't want stoners working for them, it is THEIR RIGHT. Usually people convicted of possession were busted for something worse, like selling. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33389306 02/16/2013 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: krosty You'll fuck over the business owners and YOURSELF with more taxes for private prisons because if these "ex-cons" can't get legal work, it is much easier to become a con artist, a drug dealer or a thief on YOUR streets. These snooty business owners everyone portrays and protects here can burn in hell. When those convicts have no means of survival when you turn them down I hope they go steal their food from you. Its called trust and respect. everyone needs to show both. its not given its EARNED. Y don't these peps go out and do 100-200 hr off community stuff and then ask for a job? a job is earned not given.. give me a reason. They earned respect by doing their time. They'll earn their trust when they are given a chance to do so. NO!! They were FORCED to do there time. Why not do some good when NOT FORCE too? A good point, it's a hard test but it's one that a lot of people with clean records, who are also looking for jobs, have passed routinely. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34370993 02/16/2013 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34370993 Humanitarian principles? LOL... FORCING people to take in convicted criminals into their places of business is "humanitarian"?? I suppose that you think it's "humanitarian" to FUCK OVER business owners, and put them in danger... eh? You'll fuck over the business owners and YOURSELF with more taxes for private prisons because if these "ex-cons" can't get legal work, it is much easier to become a con artist, a drug dealer or a thief on YOUR streets. These snooty business owners everyone portrays and protects here can burn in hell. When those convicts have no means of survival when you turn them down I hope they go steal their food from you. Its called trust and respect. everyone needs to show both. its not given its EARNED. Y don't these peps go out and do 100-200 hr off community stuff and then ask for a job? a job is earned not given.. give me a reason. They earned respect by doing their time. They'll earn their trust when they are given a chance to do so. They "earned" respect by doing their time? How in the hell do you figure that? If anything, they likely became better criminals, after their "education" in prison. No WONDER you have so much bad karma. You are TRULY one dumb motherfucker. |
| krosty Working Class User ID: 15571780 02/16/2013 10:53 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: krosty You'll fuck over the business owners and YOURSELF with more taxes for private prisons because if these "ex-cons" can't get legal work, it is much easier to become a con artist, a drug dealer or a thief on YOUR streets. These snooty business owners everyone portrays and protects here can burn in hell. When those convicts have no means of survival when you turn them down I hope they go steal their food from you. Its called trust and respect. everyone needs to show both. its not given its EARNED. Y don't these peps go out and do 100-200 hr off community stuff and then ask for a job? a job is earned not given.. give me a reason. They earned respect by doing their time. They'll earn their trust when they are given a chance to do so. They "earned" respect by doing their time? How in the hell do you figure that? If anything, they likely became better criminals, after their "education" in prison. No WONDER you have so much bad karma. You are TRULY one dumb motherfucker. Your so energized by your feelings you forget what the word respect means. : a relation or reference to a particular thing or situation <remarks having respect to an earlier plan> To dumb it down to your level. The lady justice holing the scales is a reference to balancing truth and fairness. When a crime is committed it is placed on one of the scales and is balanced with an equal punishment. Lady justice? Do you not have respect for any human being to begin with? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33389306 02/16/2013 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34370993 Humanitarian principles? LOL... FORCING people to take in convicted criminals into their places of business is "humanitarian"?? I suppose that you think it's "humanitarian" to FUCK OVER business owners, and put them in danger... eh? You'll fuck over the business owners and YOURSELF with more taxes for private prisons because if these "ex-cons" can't get legal work, it is much easier to become a con artist, a drug dealer or a thief on YOUR streets. These snooty business owners everyone portrays and protects here can burn in hell. When those convicts have no means of survival when you turn them down I hope they go steal their food from you. Its called trust and respect. everyone needs to show both. its not given its EARNED. Y don't these peps go out and do 100-200 hr off community stuff and then ask for a job? a job is earned not given.. give me a reason. They earned respect by doing their time. They'll earn their trust when they are given a chance to do so. 200 hours is just a month. The guy thins that 2 weeks to a month of voluntary community service would put you back in good graces with a lot of employers. If true, you should not complain nor wait, you should just get on with it and do it! Or, does that idea particulary gall you? Because if it does, there's some attitude problem that an employer probably would not, that is probably correlated with getting convicted or having served time. So in that case, avoiding ex-cons would indeed be rational and work-related. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33389306 02/16/2013 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25063986 Its called trust and respect. everyone needs to show both. its not given its EARNED. Y don't these peps go out and do 100-200 hr off community stuff and then ask for a job? a job is earned not given.. give me a reason. They earned respect by doing their time. They'll earn their trust when they are given a chance to do so. They "earned" respect by doing their time? How in the hell do you figure that? If anything, they likely became better criminals, after their "education" in prison. No WONDER you have so much bad karma. You are TRULY one dumb motherfucker. Your so energized by your feelings you forget what the word respect means. : a relation or reference to a particular thing or situation <remarks having respect to an earlier plan> To dumb it down to your level. The lady justice holing the scales is a reference to balancing truth and fairness. When a crime is committed it is placed on one of the scales and is balanced with an equal punishment. Lady justice? Do you not have respect for any human being to begin with? Wow that's an advanced comment, you must be a Level 3 or above shill. That's one meaning of "respect", not the one used in the quoted posts. |
| krosty Working Class User ID: 15571780 02/16/2013 10:58 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: krosty You'll fuck over the business owners and YOURSELF with more taxes for private prisons because if these "ex-cons" can't get legal work, it is much easier to become a con artist, a drug dealer or a thief on YOUR streets. These snooty business owners everyone portrays and protects here can burn in hell. When those convicts have no means of survival when you turn them down I hope they go steal their food from you. Its called trust and respect. everyone needs to show both. its not given its EARNED. Y don't these peps go out and do 100-200 hr off community stuff and then ask for a job? a job is earned not given.. give me a reason. They earned respect by doing their time. They'll earn their trust when they are given a chance to do so. They earned respect by doing their time? Are you kidding me? You don't have a clue what the word respect means. Idiot! : a relation or reference to a particular thing or situation <remarks having respect to an earlier plan> That's what respect means. People are saying I'm stupid because I'm flying over their heads or they simply abhor my ideals. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10401141 02/16/2013 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Keep excellent records of every application and especially the interview. Make honest notes, and add some key "observations" to the ones that you don't want to hire. "arrived late", "did not seem to understand the job or x-task." "was unable to answer how to deal with x-y-z problem", "unkept", etc. That way, you have reasons for not hiring anyone that transcends all the "protected" groups. You just didn't hire them because they sucked at the interview. I've never had to hire anyone I didn't want to hire. Never had any complaint stick either. |
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| krosty Working Class User ID: 15571780 02/16/2013 11:02 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: krosty They earned respect by doing their time. They'll earn their trust when they are given a chance to do so. They "earned" respect by doing their time? How in the hell do you figure that? If anything, they likely became better criminals, after their "education" in prison. No WONDER you have so much bad karma. You are TRULY one dumb motherfucker. Your so energized by your feelings you forget what the word respect means. : a relation or reference to a particular thing or situation <remarks having respect to an earlier plan> To dumb it down to your level. The lady justice holing the scales is a reference to balancing truth and fairness. When a crime is committed it is placed on one of the scales and is balanced with an equal punishment. Lady justice? Do you not have respect for any human being to begin with? Wow that's an advanced comment, you must be a Level 3 or above shill. That's one meaning of "respect", not the one used in the quoted posts. I said someone earns respect for doing their time. There are some bound to jail forever. I can show enough respect to try and let them get a job. If they fuck it up they are going in for much longer. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34496108 02/16/2013 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Soon you will have to hire ex cons as moderators on GLP ;) Would be interesting with some jihadi moderators... or maybe not. Love the Madaly Murray O'Hairs in the thread too, she hired excons, they took her life. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] but that's what Obama wants, he wants you dead. His policies are suicide policies and socialist forcing, people should be free to decide if they want to hire cons or not, if they do it's their problem. This forcing them to do it, very Unamerican but very socialist Sweden. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25063986 02/16/2013 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34370993 They "earned" respect by doing their time? How in the hell do you figure that? If anything, they likely became better criminals, after their "education" in prison. No WONDER you have so much bad karma. You are TRULY one dumb motherfucker. Your so energized by your feelings you forget what the word respect means. : a relation or reference to a particular thing or situation <remarks having respect to an earlier plan> To dumb it down to your level. The lady justice holing the scales is a reference to balancing truth and fairness. When a crime is committed it is placed on one of the scales and is balanced with an equal punishment. Lady justice? Do you not have respect for any human being to begin with? Wow that's an advanced comment, you must be a Level 3 or above shill. That's one meaning of "respect", not the one used in the quoted posts. I said someone earns respect for doing their time. There are some bound to jail forever. I can show enough respect to try and let them get a job. If they fuck it up they are going in for much longer. |
| Fig Tree User ID: 34240868 02/16/2013 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saying that consideration of arrest and conviction records have a disparate impact on blacks because they are 7 times more likely to have an arrest record than whites,Obama has set into action new hiring guidelines making it illegal to purposefully not hire someone because they have an arrest record.The Obama administration stated that because blacks are 7 times more likely to have criminal convictions than whites,employers refusing to hire convicts are disproportionally targeting blacks and these businesses will therefore be sued by the attorney general if they don`t comply and refuse to hire criminals. [link to www.newsmax.com] Quoting: objective viewer This sort of thinking has been long overdue. If someone commits a crime or makes a mistake - they are punished by the Justice System. They have paid their debt. The system of thinking that is in place now continues to punish people by making them unemployable or making by employing them in positions that have are ungainful. Once the debt is paid, individuals should have no problems getting a job - none. The insurance companies and their risk management which is really just profit management are largely responsible for this bias. They manipulate objective ethical considerations by proposing scenarios that demonize people who have been convicted of crimes and create a fear which perpetuates their profit system. I ain't got time for that! And neither should YOU! perennial skeptic |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25063986 02/16/2013 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saying that consideration of arrest and conviction records have a disparate impact on blacks because they are 7 times more likely to have an arrest record than whites,Obama has set into action new hiring guidelines making it illegal to purposefully not hire someone because they have an arrest record.The Obama administration stated that because blacks are 7 times more likely to have criminal convictions than whites,employers refusing to hire convicts are disproportionally targeting blacks and these businesses will therefore be sued by the attorney general if they don`t comply and refuse to hire criminals. [link to www.newsmax.com] Quoting: objective viewer This sort of thinking has been long overdue. If someone commits a crime or makes a mistake - they are punished by the Justice System. They have paid their debt. The system of thinking that is in place now continues to punish people by making them unemployable or making by employing them in positions that have are ungainful. Once the debt is paid, individuals should have no problems getting a job - none. The insurance companies and their risk management which is really just profit management are largely responsible for this bias. They manipulate objective ethical considerations by proposing scenarios that demonize people who have been convicted of crimes and create a fear which perpetuates their profit system. I ain't got time for that! And neither should YOU! Like I said befor EARN it! So you want me to put my wife and 2 children with 2 felons in my store while I have to goto the east coast for a bus trip...????FUCK YOU |
| -GLP-Christian- Under Svea Banér User ID: 34496108 02/16/2013 11:15 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saying that consideration of arrest and conviction records have a disparate impact on blacks because they are 7 times more likely to have an arrest record than whites,Obama has set into action new hiring guidelines making it illegal to purposefully not hire someone because they have an arrest record.The Obama administration stated that because blacks are 7 times more likely to have criminal convictions than whites,employers refusing to hire convicts are disproportionally targeting blacks and these businesses will therefore be sued by the attorney general if they don`t comply and refuse to hire criminals. [link to www.newsmax.com] Quoting: objective viewer This has to be a joke No it's classic socialism. Socialists always pull bs like this, that's what those spawns of satan always do. |
| krosty Working Class User ID: 15571780 02/16/2013 11:15 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If someone at your company has earned 20 years of dedicated service and he gets put in jail for a month are you going to fire him? He didn't do any crime against the company. My employer has to take them back with seniority, so I come from a much different perspective. We earn our respect from doing our jobs, if some shit happens in life it's immoral to throw someone away. They we're dedicated to doing their job. Human beings are flawed. Most people in their lifetime will do something that could possibly land them in jail. In fact, owners of businesses like Enron have proven to be even more criminal than the employees they refuse to hire. If someone has a drug problem would you let them go to rehab and come back? Would you let someone go because they are a "health risk"? It's cruel to me how businesses can treat these situations. That's why the whole idea should be disposed of altogether and why stupid laws like these grind against the broken back of capitalism as it clings on to us for dear life; pulling us down to poverty. |
| krosty Working Class User ID: 15571780 02/16/2013 11:17 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saying that consideration of arrest and conviction records have a disparate impact on blacks because they are 7 times more likely to have an arrest record than whites,Obama has set into action new hiring guidelines making it illegal to purposefully not hire someone because they have an arrest record.The Obama administration stated that because blacks are 7 times more likely to have criminal convictions than whites,employers refusing to hire convicts are disproportionally targeting blacks and these businesses will therefore be sued by the attorney general if they don`t comply and refuse to hire criminals. [link to www.newsmax.com] Quoting: objective viewer This has to be a joke No it's classic socialism. Socialists always pull bs like this, that's what those spawns of satan always do. It's called humanitarianism. |