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Obama administration creates policy to sue businesses that don’t hire ex-convicts. | |
| hmmmmmmm User ID: 34561829  United States02/16/2013 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saying that consideration of arrest and conviction records have a disparate impact on blacks because they are 7 times more likely to have an arrest record than whites,Obama has set into action new hiring guidelines making it illegal to purposefully not hire someone because they have an arrest record.The Obama administration stated that because blacks are 7 times more likely to have criminal convictions than whites,employers refusing to hire convicts are disproportionally targeting blacks and these businesses will therefore be sued by the attorney general if they don`t comply and refuse to hire criminals. [link to www.newsmax.com] Quoting: objective viewer |
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Crazy Harriet  User ID: 16501830 United States02/16/2013 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are already tax breaks and other incentives for employers who feel they can take the chance and hire ex-cons. What is proposed here (if the OP and Newsmax article are correct) is the government forbidding employers from protecting themselves by sometimes NOT hiring ex-cons. This is another example of forced association. For some businesses and some types of work, ex-cons just aren't suited. It's very very concerning to see these idiots push from offering incentives and money to threatening suits. "I would rather take a political risk in pursuit of peace, than risk peace in pursuit of politics." - Donald Trump |
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| Miss Kitty User ID: 34400726 United States02/16/2013 08:41 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YES now maybe i can find a job Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20063594 i was arested when i turned 18 now im 23 and my arest NOT a conviction because it waas defered adjudication still messes me up with getting threw the background checks YESS something i can agree with These things that cause problems would respond positively to furthering education to a greater degree. This will suffer terribly when there is no guidance and encouragement to make a better situation for yourself. Although I consider public schools Commie indoctrination centers, no one can prosper without some kind of education whereby improving possibility of success and the ability to communicate. You can do this for yourself but it takes effort on your part. Start by dissecting the reply post you made above. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32069520 United States02/16/2013 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If one has served their time and paid their debt to society, the stigma should end. Otherwise, ex-cons will have little choice but to return to a life of crime. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17152779 this is great! They always say employers are not supposed to discriminate when hiring and this was always the un written exception. Hogwash.......EVERYONE makes mistakes in life. EVERYONE diserves a second chance. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32139717 Two smart people. Thanks for sticking up for us that screwed up earlier in life. :) That's different than repeated broken laws and also serious felony charges. For minor stuff from a long time ago, I don't care as long as they are productive. It's the serious stuff that you're worried about. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24046300 United States02/16/2013 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know most of you tards are out of touch with reality, but even you schizos should be able to understand that barring ex-cons from getting jobs will only encourage them to relapse into crime. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2259844 We have a winner. Is there a prize? I'm serious. Can't come up with an actual argument? Of course not. How foolish of me to expect anything coherent from a dumbass. I won't make that mistake again. You should hire them |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30495500 United States02/16/2013 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If one has served their time and paid their debt to society, the stigma should end. Otherwise, ex-cons will have little choice but to return to a life of crime. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17152779 this is great! They always say employers are not supposed to discriminate when hiring and this was always the un written exception. Hogwash.......EVERYONE makes mistakes in life. EVERYONE diserves a second chance. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32139717 Two smart people. Thanks for sticking up for us that screwed up earlier in life. :) If one has served their time and paid their debt to society, the stigma should end. Otherwise, ex-cons will have little choice but to return to a life of crime. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17152779 this is great! They always say employers are not supposed to discriminate when hiring and this was always the un written exception. Hogwash.......EVERYONE makes mistakes in life. EVERYONE diserves a second chance. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32139717 Two smart people. Thanks for sticking up for us that screwed up earlier in life. :)  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24238594 United States02/16/2013 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If one has served their time and paid their debt to society, the stigma should end. Otherwise, ex-cons will have little choice but to return to a life of crime. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17152779 |I read in an article a few months ago that 67 million of our 310 (at the time) million population had been arrested at one time in their lives. That is a raw number, not excluding non-convictions. Oh - and 80% of those in prison are due to the drug laws. |
| Miss Kitty User ID: 34400726 United States02/16/2013 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was convicted of a felony 24 years ago. I really would like to see a society where "you paid your debt to society" is more than just lip service. Quoting: Sir Phydeau Post 9-11 society has it to where now you can't even get a job as a greeter at WalMart if you have a record, at all. I say "post 9-11" because prior to that event, I was managing fortune 500 companies and made a decent living wage. I would like to see a limit to how far back some employers are allowed to search. 7-10 years seems to be a fair number to me. All that said, an employer has a right to decide who he wants on his team or not. I think this is utter bullshit. Is this Bernie.....? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25801142 United States02/16/2013 08:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People could make all kinds of laws for everyone else, but exempt themselves Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34452298 Lead by example..... Hire a couple of child molesters to work in WH maintenance Hire peso files in Secret Service The truth of the matter is we do not have a president.... He cannot prove his eligibility So, if arrested because of any of his laws, who has the Uthority to make those laws? All should be null and void. Dont we already have eneough criminals in the Gov employ. |
| Sir Phydeau User ID: 22271457 United States02/16/2013 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was convicted of a felony 24 years ago. I really would like to see a society where "you paid your debt to society" is more than just lip service. Quoting: Sir Phydeau Post 9-11 society has it to where now you can't even get a job as a greeter at WalMart if you have a record, at all. I say "post 9-11" because prior to that event, I was managing fortune 500 companies and made a decent living wage. I would like to see a limit to how far back some employers are allowed to search. 7-10 years seems to be a fair number to me. All that said, an employer has a right to decide who he wants on his team or not. I think this is utter bullshit. Is this Bernie.....? No my name is not Bernie, sorry. "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
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| Crazy Harriet User ID: 16501830 United States02/16/2013 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I don't get is how you can stand there and demand that employers be forced to employ someone whether they want to do so or not. This isn't a matter of minority status, which is already required for businesses to receive any government contracts, but specifically the convicted. Why do you think I should be forced to hire you just because you served time, if I think it is not in my best interest to do so? There are millions of ex-cons working, perhaps not as many as would like but with 24% real unemployment, as bad as the worst slump of the 1930's great depression, employers can hire overqualified people to sweep their floors. "I would rather take a political risk in pursuit of peace, than risk peace in pursuit of politics." - Donald Trump |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1222180 United States02/16/2013 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saying that consideration of arrest and conviction records have a disparate impact on blacks because they are 7 times more likely to have an arrest record than whites,Obama has set into action new hiring guidelines making it illegal to purposefully not hire someone because they have an arrest record.The Obama administration stated that because blacks are 7 times more likely to have criminal convictions than whites,employers refusing to hire convicts are disproportionally targeting blacks and these businesses will therefore be sued by the attorney general if they don`t comply and refuse to hire criminals. [link to www.newsmax.com] Quoting: objective viewer No business should be FORCED to hire a convicted felon. If I was an employer, I'd be damned sure that a felonious applicant was NEVER "the most qualified". Obama is the most OPENLY racist president we've ever had. |
| ar-15 nut User ID: 1281306 United States02/16/2013 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saying that consideration of arrest and conviction records have a disparate impact on blacks because they are 7 times more likely to have an arrest record than whites,Obama has set into action new hiring guidelines making it illegal to purposefully not hire someone because they have an arrest record.The Obama administration stated that because blacks are 7 times more likely to have criminal convictions than whites,employers refusing to hire convicts are disproportionally targeting blacks and these businesses will therefore be sued by the attorney general if they don`t comply and refuse to hire criminals. [link to www.newsmax.com] Quoting: objective viewer No business should be FORCED to hire a convicted felon. If I was an employer, I'd be damned sure that a felonious applicant was NEVER "the most qualified". Obama is the most OPENLY racist president we've ever had.  We are a REPUBLIC.If we can keep it MORAN! A pissed off American Veteran! |
| Northman User ID: 1101610  Puerto Rico02/16/2013 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem is that within the existing population the level of intelligence is so low and the result is so dreadful that the entire population must be carefully screened to aquire every intelligent mind that might be available to participate in pulling the nation from the incredible quagmire of stupidity that it now finds itself in. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4613981 United States02/16/2013 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saying that consideration of arrest and conviction records have a disparate impact on blacks because they are 7 times more likely to have an arrest record than whites,Obama has set into action new hiring guidelines making it illegal to purposefully not hire someone because they have an arrest record.The Obama administration stated that because blacks are 7 times more likely to have criminal convictions than whites,employers refusing to hire convicts are disproportionally targeting blacks and these businesses will therefore be sued by the attorney general if they don`t comply and refuse to hire criminals. [link to www.newsmax.com] Quoting: objective viewer Your avatar is REALLY annoying |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4613981 United States02/16/2013 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saying that consideration of arrest and conviction records have a disparate impact on blacks because they are 7 times more likely to have an arrest record than whites,Obama has set into action new hiring guidelines making it illegal to purposefully not hire someone because they have an arrest record.The Obama administration stated that because blacks are 7 times more likely to have criminal convictions than whites,employers refusing to hire convicts are disproportionally targeting blacks and these businesses will therefore be sued by the attorney general if they don`t comply and refuse to hire criminals. [link to www.newsmax.com] Quoting: objective viewer Your avatar is REALLY annoying |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30357815 United States02/16/2013 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was convicted of a felony 24 years ago. I really would like to see a society where "you paid your debt to society" is more than just lip service. Quoting: Sir Phydeau Post 9-11 society has it to where now you can't even get a job as a greeter at WalMart if you have a record, at all. I say "post 9-11" because prior to that event, I was managing fortune 500 companies and made a decent living wage. I would like to see a limit to how far back some employers are allowed to search. 7-10 years seems to be a fair number to me. All that said, an employer has a right to decide who he wants on his team or not. I think this is utter bullshit. Yes, even though I have misdemeanors, I agree. Give Americans a freaking break. We're already working slave jobs for paper. Like I said earlier, do as the UK does. No one responded to that one for some reason. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24046300 United States02/16/2013 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YES now maybe i can find a job Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20063594 i was arested when i turned 18 now im 23 and my arest NOT a conviction because it waas defered adjudication still messes me up with getting threw the background checks YESS something i can agree with More rights stripped from the American People, something that everybody here bitches about everyday but this is ok because it benefits you. Thats what wrong with all you monkeys. You don't care about rights being stripped if it benefits you but care about rights being stripped if it effects you.. Fuck you all you fuckin hypocrites! |
| apiratewithadd User ID: 29360382 United States02/16/2013 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was convicted of a felony 24 years ago. I really would like to see a society where "you paid your debt to society" is more than just lip service. Quoting: Sir Phydeau Post 9-11 society has it to where now you can't even get a job as a greeter at WalMart if you have a record, at all. I say "post 9-11" because prior to that event, I was managing fortune 500 companies and made a decent living wage. I would like to see a limit to how far back some employers are allowed to search. 7-10 years seems to be a fair number to me. All that said, an employer has a right to decide who he wants on his team or not. I think this is utter bullshit. Yes, even though I have misdemeanors, I agree. Give Americans a freaking break. We're already working slave jobs for paper. Like I said earlier, do as the UK does. No one responded to that one for some reason. I'm on probation for drug related stuff (pot), and as soon as prospective employers see that I'm not hired. Its BS. Student of our Biosphere, Like we all should be. [link to baering.github.io] [link to icelanderuptions.com] Thread: Volcanic Iceland: Earthquake with magnitude M 5,2 in Þorbjörn mountain (Fagradalsfjall mountain)!!!p1492 The volcano you missed, The Bárðarbunga crew |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34370993 United States02/16/2013 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saying that consideration of arrest and conviction records have a disparate impact on blacks because they are 7 times more likely to have an arrest record than whites,Obama has set into action new hiring guidelines making it illegal to purposefully not hire someone because they have an arrest record.The Obama administration stated that because blacks are 7 times more likely to have criminal convictions than whites,employers refusing to hire convicts are disproportionally targeting blacks and these businesses will therefore be sued by the attorney general if they don`t comply and refuse to hire criminals. [link to www.newsmax.com] Quoting: objective viewer You have GOT to be fucking kidding me. Now businesses will be FORCED to hire criminals? It just keeps getting more and more INSANE. |
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