Who appointed Satan 'ruler of the world'?

Luke 22:31
Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift you as wheat. ...

The "prince of the power of the air", "the great red dragon","the father of lies"," the god of this world who now works in the sons of disobedience" are some of his names. He is satan a fallen Cherubim/arch angel. He was given the earth to rule over when he was named Lucifer.

"Subject yourselves, therefore, to God; but oppose the Devil, and he will flee from YOU. 8 Draw close to God, and he will draw close to YOU. Cleanse YOUR hands, YOU sinners, and purify YOUR hearts, YOU indecisive ones. 9 Give way to misery and mourn and weep. Let YOUR laughter be turned into mourning, and [YOUR] joy into dejection. 10 Humble yourselves in the eyes of Jehovah, and he will exalt YOU.
11 Quit speaking against one another, brothers. He who speaks against a brother or judges his brother speaks against law and judges law. Now if you judge law, you are, not a doer of law, but a judge. 12 One there is that is lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But you, who are you to be judging [your] neighbor?" Ja4:7

The pope is Lucifer's hand puppet on earth.

Eze 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone [was] thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.


Eze 28:14 Thou [art] the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee [so]: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.


Eze 28:15 Thou [wast] perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.


Eze 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.


Eze 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.


Eze 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.


Eze 28:19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never [shalt] thou [be] any more.

Actually that angel was named satan, Lucifer was a king in Babylon (trivia) but good expressions here, the pope is indeed Satan's hand puppet here's your backup;
"Let no one seduce YOU in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. 4 He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone who is called “god” or an object of reverence, so that he sits down in the temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a god. 5 Do YOU not remember that, while I was yet with YOU, I used to tell YOU these things?
6 And so now YOU know the thing that acts as a restraint, with a view to his being revealed in his own due time. 7 True, the mystery of this lawlessness is already at work; but only till he who is right now acting as a restraint gets to be out of the way. 8 Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence. 9 But the lawless one’s presence is according to the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and portents 10 and with every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth that they might be saved. 11 So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie, 12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness." 2Thes2:3

This prophesy is God's fair warning to Catholics to escape the church while they can, (sorry, no refunds).

"Again the Devil took him along to an unusually high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory, and he said to him: "All these things I will give you if you fall down and do an act of worship to me."
Then Jesus said to him: "Go away Satan! For it is written, 'It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service' "-Matthew 4:8-10

Who gave him rulership, man or God? BTW, God didn't name him Lucifer man did which is why there is no scripture saying 'Lucifer'.

The term translated "Lucifer" does NOT at all mean "morning star" or "star of the morning." That would be two totally different Hebrew words. The word means "light-bearer." In Greek it's "heosphoros," “light-bearer.” In Latin it's translated "Lucifer," light-bearer. Whether you say "heylel," "heosphoros" or "lucifer," the meaning is the same: "light-bearer." But only Lucifer communicates who we are talking about in English.

And not only English uses the term. Look at these ancient translations of the word. They also use some form of “Lucifer.”

Spanish Reina-Valera (1557 through 1909) Lucero
Czech Kralika (1613) lucifere
Romanian Cornilescu (to present) Luceafar
[link to www.chick.com]

Read the written works of Manley Hall, balvastky etc... they are not confused, they know who Lucifer is, they worship him.

Change agents all the day long would like to discredit the KJB because the satanists know nothing is hidden from God, and their agenda is revealed in Gods Word, even if the Christians don't see it - code words - they know

GOD did,



Earth is Satan's territory.

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But you're both essentially right here, aren't you?
Because if anyone worships a God other than the creator of the universe ,Almighty God, he is really worshipping Satan, whether knowingly or not. Or maybe even by default one is worshipping Satan, though claiming not to worship anyone/anything? [not sure- that word might be a little strong]

Not too strong, as a Christian you know there are only two kingdoms - there is no third way

Yes I guess that's right.

But reading that Chick article you linked to made me realize why it could be a problem using "Lucifer" in Isaiah if that's not the absolutely perfect translation from the Hebrew . I say "if" because I certainly claim no expertise in Hebrew. "Prometheus" in Greek myth gave fire to humans, defying Zeus, but obviously seen as a a benefactor of the human race compared to Zeus, the philandering, quick-to -anger, deadbeat dad.

"The light bringer", sounds like the same guy to a lot of people and the God of the old Testament takes on for them even more of the bad Zeus characteristics than he already has in their minds. And the selfishness and petty jealousy displayed by the Zeus-type has probably morphed the very definition of the word jealousy to what it is in our minds today: a sign of weakness and selfishness. And here we have God admitting to jealousy, all over the Bible! -No doubt part of why so many people haven't experienced this for themselves :

" 17 This is what Jehovah has said, your Repurchaser,+ the Holy One of Israel:+ “I, Jehovah, am your God, the One teaching you to benefit [yourself],+ the One causing you to tread in the way in which you should walk.+ 18 O if only you would actually pay attention to my commandments!+ Then your peace would become just like a river,+ and your righteousness like the waves of the sea.+" Isaiah 48:17
You mention Blavatsky,etc, knowing they worship Lucifer, but I'd say that "Blavatsky" spirit has permeated almost everywhere I look, with everyone thinking they're "enlightened" by it.
2 Corinthians 4:3 "If, now, the good news we declare is in fact veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing,+ 4 among whom the god* of this system of things*+ has blinded the minds* of the unbelievers,+ that the illumination*+ of the glorious good news+ about the Christ,* who is the image+ of God, might not shine through."

Freemason much? Zeus is just another fallen angel from mythology.

When God says he is jealous, it doesn't mean jealous like it does for weak minded fallen mankind. God is jealous for His people, meaning, He will deliver them, He has determined that no false belief system or slayer of them will bring to an end His goals for them

I completely agree with what you said.
I said it was mythology.
I was lamenting how the word jealousy has been deliberately morphed into something most people think is always negative.
Not me, though. In this case it's for our own good. Based on what the bible says about God being jealous, I've even begun to think that where there is love [at least Philia and eros] there is jealousy ,and that it's, as per usual, B.S. what the world has scolded and preached to us , that jealousy is wrong. It's 'the world' after all, and its primary goal is to turn us away from God.
I've just been reading your posts on the evolution thread and was admiring them greatly. I'm sorry that I evidently cannot express myself as well, so that you and others seem to think I'm trying to say the opposite of what I am trying to say.

Freemason? No. I'm a "girl", anyway . Do they even take women? The idea of Masons, Blavatsky, Manly Hall,blah, blah, blah -makes me want to throw up. I detest the 'Gnosis', the 'knowingness',the smugness of what the Bible calls "the falsely-called knowledge".

Is it possible I am a fallen angel myself

You obviously are of a good heart - mason girls belong to the eastern star org- I am truly sorry if somewhere in that thread I confronted you wrongfully. I know it is hard at times for some to say what is in their heart, but remember -be alert, be a watchman for the Truth of God, for the deceivers have now joined forces in an ecumenical love fest to take away the truth of God and are busy replacing Him with a "one size fits all" God that can accomodate any belief system, "animisim", "mind sciences",
'new age mysticism" (really old world gnosticism),
'we are all a part of god and will ascend"
"reincarnation", "snake worshippers", and "ritual blood drinkers", because all paths lead to God - in the name of Peace" - none of these things will a Christian accept as an alternative path. Jesus declared, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6
There is no other way, and saying there is, would not equal the confession of a true Christian, but perhaps a guise for all to worship the man of the hour, when he comes with wonder working miracles so the whole world will worship the beast. see Revelation now being fulfilled daily

you don't remember anything at all yet?

...for now.

great Bible Translation- New World? yes

Lucifer and Satan are actually 2 different people. And no, Lucifer did not do anything wrong. The only thing he did was to tell the truth about a corrupt government and no, he didn't start the rebellion it was Satan's rebellion. His crime was Free Speech!! Imagine that!

Lucifer is not dead, as some might want us to believe. And Satan is not the worst of the worst, either. Although he is no goody goody two shoes,either.There is one who is far worse than even him. The most High Ancient of Days, Samael. He was the one who forced the Popes' resignation. Obama will declare himself a dictator very soon, then we will see him fall. And I personally cannot wait.

Satan has been arrested along with 3 other Princes of the rebellion and is now incarcerated. Lucifer meanwhile has been re-personalized after his incarnation and is now back in his angel skin suit, out and about to do the Father's will.

The one everyone will soon see is Samael. He is your biggest problem.

Interesting.. Please go on.

Who made the enemy the "ruler" of the world...Adam and Eve did. When Adam and Eve had sex with the serpent in the Garden of Eden...they became united with Satan. The "apple" thing - wrong! I don't know the whole thing, but the "taking from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil"...appears to be that they had sex with the serpent. If something had gone into Adam and Eve's mouth...then why did they cover their genitals with leaves? Shouldn't they have covered their mouths? Think about it...the whole prudish crap the way the KJV represents sex...Adam "knew" Eve...Abraham "knew" Sarah...they were having sex! What is "knowledge" of good and evil...that old term about "knew" again...sex again! When two people have sex they become as one in God's eyes...Adam and Eve became one with the devil...they put him in charge.