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acegotflows (OP)

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"want to drive a Christian mad?"

Why?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34557048


because they don't seem to get the joke
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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"want to drive a Christian mad?"

Why?
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because they don't seem to get the joke
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But who could be as smart as you?
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"want to drive a Christian mad?"

Why?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34557048


because they don't seem to get the joke
 Quoting: acegotflows


But who could be as smart as you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34557048


I'm so stupid I get the joke...

must be an issue looking into things with childlike innocence and curiosity

WONDER WHY THEY BEAT IT OUT OF US AT A YOUNG AGE?

guess who was taught BY them to read root words and use dictionaries as references before I was allowed to ask more questions?

guess who NO LONGER ANSWERS MY QUESTIONS

yeah.. I'm so stupid that I'm all by myself

lonely being the stupid kids...


NOW apply that to the STUPID Kid COUNTRY of AMERICA using the STUPID KID language of ENGLISH and understand why LATIN is in a lot of stuff but supposedly a "dead" language

GEE I WONDER WHY THE POPE IS STEPPING DOWN?

first one in a long time to CONSIDER that he can't hide this crap anymore

THIS IS GOING TO BE FUN!!!!

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Oh please do teach us master acegotflows
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it is a mystery.....i understand why you don't understand
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I grew up in that cult... want to ask me WHAT I understand instead of taking a position of dominance?

WHICH MIMIC ARE YOU?
 Quoting: acegotflows


I grew up and married into the cult - were you IFB?
Ignorance is bliss until reality bites you in the ass.

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Oh please do teach us master acegotflows
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just a person like you are... no master here... not claiming that either
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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How can CHRISTIANS SAY god has not given me a spirit of fear in one verse, but the tell you to fear god?

because what I hear is

put fear in people and tell them what to buy with things that say IN GOD WE TRUST

but GOD MADE it ALL... OR DID CHINA?

I'm not so good with labels
 Quoting: acegotflows


yer funNY.......
transLATION of fear of G_d
and that spirit of fear
are two distinctly different entities
and let's toss in
perfect love casts out fear to really get thing stirred UP.
acegotflows (OP)

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it is a mystery.....i understand why you don't understand
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I grew up in that cult... want to ask me WHAT I understand instead of taking a position of dominance?

WHICH MIMIC ARE YOU?
 Quoting: acegotflows


I grew up and married into the cult - were you IFB?
 Quoting: Watching the world


theirs was Non-Denominational.. you know SPEAKING in TONGUES, HOLY GHOST .. OLIVE OIL TO NULLIFY THE PINEAL THIRD EYE the suggest to you that they are healing you

yeah... I never got healed once... got cursed a few times... until I learned how to say no

THAT IS WHEN the magicians get mad and suggest things to you... which is why it's good to understand that ENGLISH is the best subliminal tool EVER created language wise
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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How can CHRISTIANS SAY god has not given me a spirit of fear in one verse, but the tell you to fear god?

because what I hear is

put fear in people and tell them what to buy with things that say IN GOD WE TRUST

but GOD MADE it ALL... OR DID CHINA?

I'm not so good with labels
 Quoting: acegotflows


yer funNY.......
transLATION of fear of G_d
and that spirit of fear
are two distinctly different entities
and let's toss in
perfect love casts out fear to really get thing stirred UP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33250686


as different as LORD god and the GOD of GENESIS 1

UH OH am I sharing too much?
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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There are different kinds of fear.Good fear is to fear that tornado and take cover.Bad fear is to fear the sky will fall on you.Get it?
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Make your point already. Say what you will.
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How can CHRISTIANS SAY god has not given me a spirit of fear in one verse, but the tell you to fear god?

because what I hear is

put fear in people and tell them what to buy with things that say IN GOD WE TRUST

but GOD MADE it ALL... OR DID CHINA?

I'm not so good with labels
 Quoting: acegotflows


yer funNY.......
transLATION of fear of G_d
and that spirit of fear
are two distinctly different entities
and let's toss in
perfect love casts out fear to really get thing stirred UP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33250686


as different as LORD god and the GOD of GENESIS 1

UH OH am I sharing too much?
 Quoting: acegotflows


If you knew anything you would have already enlightened us.
Fail.
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Only catholics are christians, the rest are helpless idiotic children.

You grew up in shit.
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i think the Catholics are Catholics, because they call themselves "Catholics", not Christian.

Weare Christian. We even call ourselves "Christian", because weare Christian.

Youare confused, and were made that way on purpose.

You need a de-pro-grammer first before anything else.

Try out these people who may beable to help you:
Dee Emanski Programmer/Analyst, Pasco Coun FL Sch Bd | LinkedIn
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it is a mystery.....i understand why you don't understand
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34276055


I grew up in that cult... want to ask me WHAT I understand instead of taking a position of dominance?

WHICH MIMIC ARE YOU?
 Quoting: acegotflows


I grew up and married into the cult - were you IFB?
 Quoting: Watching the world


theirs was Non-Denominational.. you know SPEAKING in TONGUES, HOLY GHOST .. OLIVE OIL TO NULLIFY THE PINEAL THIRD EYE the suggest to you that they are healing you

yeah... I never got healed once... got cursed a few times... until I learned how to say no

THAT IS WHEN the magicians get mad and suggest things to you... which is why it's good to understand that ENGLISH is the best subliminal tool EVER created language wise
 Quoting: acegotflows


I understand what you are saying - I left it all 5 years ago, and have just lately been able to let go of the anger.

Try not to let it consume you. I can feel it in your post - try to move on and shake it off. I totally get where you are at. Been there - still deal with it alot.

Jesus came for the people - not for their religion.

I was indoctrinated in Bob Jones Theology - it was either their way or the highway.

I just try to take each day at a time and work out what I feel in my heart is true, and not what man tries to mandate to me what is true.

I wish you peace as you work through the pain my friend.

hf
Ignorance is bliss until reality bites you in the ass.

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There are different kinds of fear.Good fear is to fear that tornado and take cover.Bad fear is to fear the sky will fall on you.Get it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29051298


I guess LOGIC you know LOGOS the thing that was in the beginning 3 times is a slave to fear also which was NOT at the beginning? I guess that knowledge of good and evil thing has nothing to do with it at all?
uh oh am I sharing secrets?

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

notice that the word THINK is NOWHERE to be found ANYWHERE in this article...

perhaps that should tell you something...

LOGIC BEGINNING- FEAR NOT in the beginning

AND we wonder why they don't let us ask real questions

I'm not God bashing... I'm bashing those who think they KNOW God...

god does not exactly come to those who are full of themselves... NO room to compete
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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I'm not mad.. I'm just telling the game because it is up...

SO FINISHED.. at this point the car is running on fumes


guess who stopped buying?
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wow.......
you guys that are free from that cult thing ?
thank G_d you are free and i truly hope you can be in touch to the others that are still inside.
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How can CHRISTIANS SAY god has not given me a spirit of fear in one verse, but the tell you to fear god?

because what I hear is

put fear in people and tell them what to buy with things that say IN GOD WE TRUST

but GOD MADE it ALL... OR DID CHINA?

I'm not so good with labels
 Quoting: acegotflows


What is this, I don't even...
Winner takes my car, clean and clear... but if I lose, I take the cash AND I take the respect!
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...


I grew up in that cult... want to ask me WHAT I understand instead of taking a position of dominance?

WHICH MIMIC ARE YOU?
 Quoting: acegotflows


I grew up and married into the cult - were you IFB?
 Quoting: Watching the world


theirs was Non-Denominational.. you know SPEAKING in TONGUES, HOLY GHOST .. OLIVE OIL TO NULLIFY THE PINEAL THIRD EYE the suggest to you that they are healing you

yeah... I never got healed once... got cursed a few times... until I learned how to say no

THAT IS WHEN the magicians get mad and suggest things to you... which is why it's good to understand that ENGLISH is the best subliminal tool EVER created language wise
 Quoting: acegotflows


I understand what you are saying - I left it all 5 years ago, and have just lately been able to let go of the anger.

Try not to let it consume you. I can feel it in your post - try to move on and shake it off. I totally get where you are at. Been there - still deal with it alot.

Jesus came for the people - not for their religion.

I was indoctrinated in Bob Jones Theology - it was either their way or the highway.

I just try to take each day at a time and work out what I feel in my heart is true, and not what man tries to mandate to me what is true.

I wish you peace as you work through the pain my friend.

hf
 Quoting: Watching the world


Not hurting at all... PEOPLE read what they have in their heads no matter the words on the page... THAT is how programming works and why I can't use certain words, AUTOMATIC triggers...

SEE the game is up... GUESS who was labelled as a kid and taught how to READ BETWEEN THE LINES because I WAS TOO STUPID to follow the rules?

so as you can see, RETARDS are more in touch with God than most would give them credit for...

I'm not a retard. I'm just a person like anybody else. But group think and fear tactics NOT exactly SCARING me

when god wants me, it will happen

until then WHY worry... Cant get rid of the radiation poisoning right? I MEAN WE ARE ALL SCREWED

so wait on that second coming and stop killing each other just to have more radioactive particles to breathe until the LAST battle

oh boy this is so fun.... I'll be watching Southland Tales while DOOM happens ... Waiting on my Rock

I guess I should just KNOW my role and SHUT my mouth right?
I can only imagine if I keep sharing that the smack will be laid down on my candy ass

whatever

This is more accurate of most depictions of the GOD they have sold us...


"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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The use of the word "fear" when it says not to fear anything when you go back to the original Greek, means FEAR in the most common use of the word.

When it is used as in "fear" God, the original Greek that is used, uses a word that means, "to be in AWE of or have great respect for".

That is what is wrong with folks who READ the bible but don't STUDY the bible.
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studing a book = taking it for granted!
To live is to believe in the power of dreams! To dream is to believe in the power of love! To love is to Know the truth!
The Desire to Be fuel the belief that you Are which ignite the Will to Become which bring back forth the desire to be...
Let it be-come you! It means Stop seeking your higher self! It is seeking you! Stand still in your mind to calm the waters of your mind and then it shall find you, so you can ride those waves together!
your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you!
The heart create the emotions and our mind evoke its purpose, from which we dream the life we live in order to imagine the nature of reality and finally remember love!

The highest Purpose of our mind is the ability to Forget! Go on and Forgive yourself!
There is no love in truth but there is truth in love!
Be authentic, nobody else can do it for you!
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they already mad.

they need saving.
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they already mad.

they need saving.
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Thread: VATICAN CREATED ISLAM BY REMOVING THE HOLY LANDS ORIGINAL INHABITANTS
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The use of the word "fear" when it says not to fear anything when you go back to the original Greek, means FEAR in the most common use of the word.

When it is used as in "fear" God, the original Greek that is used, uses a word that means, "to be in AWE of or have great respect for".

That is what is wrong with folks who READ the bible but don't STUDY the bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17888588


studing a book = taking it for granted!
 Quoting: Blitz the storm-striker


you and I are equal... if you have a gun and I do not you might believe that it might make me fear you.Maybe you might even believe that your tool makes you BETTER than me for NOT having one

so why have I scared off more than one potential gunman by looking them in the face and say go for it

because people think that their TOOLS mean something...

I have never seen a gun load itself and SHOOT an innocent person with NO provocation whatsoever

see... tools MISUSED ALL THE TIME...

that is elitism in a nutshell...
can't we just be people?

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The use of the word "fear" when it says not to fear anything when you go back to the original Greek, means FEAR in the most common use of the word.

When it is used as in "fear" God, the original Greek that is used, uses a word that means, "to be in AWE of or have great respect for".

That is what is wrong with folks who READ the bible but don't STUDY the bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17888588



Lies, why do you think so many people are blind? Tremble before him! How many people were scared of god in the bible? How would perfect love drive out the fear of punishment? Fear is the beginning of knowledge and wisdom! Are people so arrogant and ignorant not to fear the wrath of god? Can you defeat the only immortal?
 Quoting: Harbinger Of Truth


Respectfully, there are areas of truth with both of your comments (the two comments are not entirely mutually exclusive of each other).

To bring closer together, the (perfection of each toward the other)...one needs to take each piece (of each comment)one-at-a-time, (phrase within each sentence), and show correct commonality with the Bible (while rejecting the parts that are off the mark).

But for time's sake...here's some of the key ones:

Indeed the definitions in the Hebrew and Greek are not the same (when "matched up" with the English translation)...which accounts for much of the answer to the question (of this thread)...as outlined by the first AC statement).

For the second AC - you too are correct in saying that it's right in trembling before Him (even the righteous...a true holy fear).

It's important to remember, however, to also (when it's applicable) allow the Bible to define its own words (when they are the same). For example, as you state, "fear is the beginning of wisdom!"...true, however, it's only "the fear of God" (that's the beginning of wisdom...and indeed, the One and Only, True God).

As another example of the Bible defining its own words here: "the fear of God" (per the Bible defined, by the Holy Spirit, in the Psalms)...is to "eschew evil". This means, (to strongly/habitually avoid evil). By so doing, you are fearing God, and indeed, now have a starting point for grasping wisdom.

Praise God - forever and ever He's to be praised
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'fear of the LORD', it actually just paying due reverence to Almighty God. If you reverence God, what else have you to fear? He is victorious over death itself! I thought you were going to ask something absurd like, can God create a rock so heavy that He can't lift or something.
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'fear of the LORD', it actually just paying due reverence to Almighty God. If you reverence God, what else have you to fear? He is victorious over death itself! I thought you were going to ask something absurd like, can God create a rock so heavy that He can't lift or something.
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its so logical that people still argue, even kill to prove it even though GOD wins in the end...

Funny?
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you also pay respect by breathing... why send the bs up with the hot air???

I've stopped doing that... FEELS SO MUCH better
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How can CHRISTIANS SAY god has not given me a spirit of fear in one verse, but the tell you to fear god?.....

 Quoting: acegotflows


The two instances of "fear" you reference are two different greek words with two different meanings.
Therefore the two passages are not contradictory.


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2Ti 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

The word translated "fear" in this passage is - "deilia".

Strong's G1167 - deilia
1) timidity, fearfulness, cowardice

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Rev 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

1Pe 2:17 Honour all [men]. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.

The word translated "fear" in these passages is - "phobeo".

Strong's G5399 - phobeo
1) to put to flight by terrifying (to scare away)

a) to put to flight, to flee

b) to fear, be afraid

1) to be struck with fear, to be seized with alarm

a) of those startled by strange sights or occurrences

b) of those struck with amazement

2) to fear, be afraid of one

3) to fear (i.e. hesitate) to do something (for fear of harm)

c) to reverence, venerate, to treat with deference or reverential obedience
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How can CHRISTIANS SAY god has not given me a spirit of fear in one verse, but the tell you to fear god?.....

 Quoting: acegotflows


The two instances of "fear" you reference are two different greek words with two different meanings.
Therefore the two passages are not contradictory.


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2Ti 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

The word translated "fear" in this passage is - "deilia".

Strong's G1167 - deilia
1) timidity, fearfulness, cowardice

============================================================

Rev 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

1Pe 2:17 Honour all [men]. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.

The word translated "fear" in these passages is - "phobeo".

Strong's G5399 - phobeo
1) to put to flight by terrifying (to scare away)

a) to put to flight, to flee

b) to fear, be afraid

1) to be struck with fear, to be seized with alarm

a) of those startled by strange sights or occurrences

b) of those struck with amazement

2) to fear, be afraid of one

3) to fear (i.e. hesitate) to do something (for fear of harm)

c) to reverence, venerate, to treat with deference or reverential obedience
 Quoting: Sunman


yes... NOW HOW MANY EXPLAIN ALL THAT?

nope it's just IN THERE SOMEWHERE RIGHT? TAKE MY WORD ON IT LOL

see why a little knowledge is such a dangerous thing... That means you can keep it and share a little of that for a price and keep the pyramid scheme going

UH OH AM I SHARING MORE SECRETS FOR FREE?

I'm not trying to PROVE that I know anything... But Christians and other religions aren't trying to either, thus the USE OF FORCE...

get it? USE THE FORCE?
no? NOT FUNNY?


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Matthew 10
28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.


Matthew 22
15 Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle him in his talk.

16 And they sent out unto him their disciples with the Herodians, saying, Master, we know that thou art true, and teachest the way of God in truth, neither carest thou for any man: for thou regardest not the person of men.

17 Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not?

18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites?

19 Shew me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny.

20 And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription?

21 They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.

22 When they had heard these words, they marvelled, and left him, and went their way.


Maybe these verses can help you in your confusion.

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