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30 Second Update - Russian Meteor Shot Down:CONFIRMED?

 
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Maybe TPTB lied about the incoming speed, which would not surprise me. They lie about every thing else.

TPTB have weapons you cant even imagine so I dont think hitting it with a projectile of soem sort is impossible but then you have to question why would they in the first place especially that late.

Why turn a large projectile into 1000 projectiles and shotgun a city.

Or maybe they actually thought it was something else and not a meteorite.
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we have missiles that can go 200000 miles an hour now?

oh wait we dont

fucking OP you dumb retard kill yourself
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They don't have to travel that speed, for example on some anti-nuke missiles the targeting information is done by the ETU before the launch and strike the warhead just as it comes over the flight path. Not saying it's the case here but it's rather old school technology and you'd more than likely see it come from the bottom of the screen from a ground launch, another words it'd be very apparent.

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White hot from extreme heat of traveling through upper atmosphere at velocity >20K mph, the thing was exploding/disintegrating--and it only took a few seconds from start to finish, although the sound waves took a while.

Not "shot down".
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UFO? The object moves much faster then the meteor. Angle doesn't have anything to do with it. It comes in from behind the meteor and comes out from the front. Maybe we indeed have space friends helping us after all
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Re: 30 Second Update - Russian Meteor Shot Down:CONFIRMED?
It splits apart immediately after. Right from the impact spot.
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Earth's scientist were looking at an asteroid and missed a big rock which would have done much damage if allowed to impact intact.

People never read my old threads from a few years back. Earth is a protected planet. Those,"out there", have been doing some interesting things the past year shielding the planet from the sun on more than one occasion. Now a big meteor.

See how the pulse just appears out of nowhere and moves forward through the meteor and continues on without deflection before vanishing. The best way to explain this multidimensional weapon is to compare it to the venerable Photon torpedo. Though the technical aspect is quite different it provides an apt frame of reference.

Or you can believe Russia got lucky; or you can believe Russia had money to develop a mysterious defense shield. Whatever floats your boat......
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They hit it with a Rail Gun, not a missile.
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UFO? The object moves much faster then the meteor. Angle doesn't have anything to do with it. It comes in from behind the meteor and comes out from the front. Maybe we indeed have space friends helping us after all
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Imo yes we do, this is their planet and we are an experement.
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Re: 30 Second Update - Russian Meteor Shot Down:CONFIRMED?
Good grief.

Why?
Who?
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It could be a simple automatic missle defence system, pretty sure heat seeking missles would be able to track it, however that missle would have to hauling ass, but if you thing about it it would have to be capeable of this if it wants to intercept warheads that are fired from space.
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Track it yes, but catch up to it, NOT A FUCKING CHANCE>..
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They hit it with a Rail Gun, not a missile.
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I've heard of the rail gun but I'm having difficult conceiving how it could be aimed to target an object moving at incredible speeds? How would the projectile track the target? I assumed the rail gun was designed to hit stationary targets (or at least ones traveling at a limited speed).

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it's impossible for conventional weapons to travel at those
speeds...dont think RUSSIA is that far advance...maybe some type of laser
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They hit it with a Rail Gun, not a missile.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15740069


I've heard of the rail gun but I'm having difficult conceiving how it could be aimed to target an object moving at incredible speeds? How would the projectile track the target? I assumed the rail gun was designed to hit stationary targets (or at least ones traveling at a limited speed).
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They have computers that work out the trajectory.

All they have to do is calculate how much to lead the target.
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Railguns hurl projectiles at 3,500 m/s (11,500 ft/s, approximately Mach 10 at sea level).

They can also shoot over 50 kilometres.

"The first weaponized railgun planned for production, the General Atomics Blitzer system, began full system testing in September 2010. The weapon launches a streamlined discarding sabot round designed by Boeing's Phantom Works at 1600 m/s (approximately Mach 5) with accelerations exceeding 60,000 g's.[21] During one of the tests, the projectile was able to travel an additional 7km (~4 mi) downrange after penetrating a 1/8 inch (3 mm) thick steel plate. The company hopes to have an integrated demo of the system by 2016 followed by production by 2019, pending funding. Thus far, the project is self-funded.[22]"


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Anyone who says that meteor couldn't have been shot down is fucking dumbass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34494403


The slowest meteor is 11 km/sec and up to 70 km/sec. Your railgun, 3.5 km/sec. Ain't gonna happen.
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Re: 30 Second Update - Russian Meteor Shot Down:CONFIRMED?
The railgun does not have to shoot faster then the meteor.

It just has to be in the same place at the same time...
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Re: 30 Second Update - Russian Meteor Shot Down:CONFIRMED?
Good grief.

Why?
Who?
 Quoting: natasha77


It could be a simple automatic missle defence system, pretty sure heat seeking missles would be able to track it, however that missle would have to hauling ass, but if you thing about it it would have to be capeable of this if it wants to intercept warheads that are fired from space.
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Track it yes, but catch up to it, NOT A FUCKING CHANCE>..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33142471


It does not have to catch up. As long as the rock can be tracked in all 4 dimensions you can fire whatever at it to intercept it.

The target acquisition and tracking system would be the "wtf" piece of military hardware.
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Looks compelling......
 Quoting: mr2


Looks like that "missile" came from behind.
I had no idea we have missiles that can travel at 20,000 miles and hour inside of our atmosphere....

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32004531


It does look like something shot it apart. Good thing, too or else the outcome woudl have been much worse.

However, if they did shoot it down with a missile traveling at 20,000mph, they will NEVER admit it (that they have the tech).
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The railgun projectile hit the meteor on its side.

It didnt come from behind and shoot past it.

You have to look at the angle, it came in from the side and came out the other side.
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UFO antigrav craft shooting it down?
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this was my other thought.
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They hit it with a Rail Gun, not a missile.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15740069


I've heard of the rail gun but I'm having difficult conceiving how it could be aimed to target an object moving at incredible speeds? How would the projectile track the target? I assumed the rail gun was designed to hit stationary targets (or at least ones traveling at a limited speed).
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC



They have computers that work out the trajectory.

All they have to do is calculate how much to lead the target.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15740069


They can calculate the trajectory of the projectile that they fire but the same can't be said for an incoming meteor which breaks apart in composition and would subsequently be changing speed/direction/trajectory as it descends. I respect your theory but on my end it doesn't seem feasible IMHO. If something were to 'shoot down' a meteor the projectile would need to be able to track the heat signature of the meteor and adjust it's trajectory on the fly while traveling at an insane velocity.

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Re: 30 Second Update - Russian Meteor Shot Down:CONFIRMED?
The railgun projectile hit the meteor on its side.

It didnt come from behind and shoot past it.

You have to look at the angle, it came in from the side and came out the other side.
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oooh railgun sounds even better.
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That would have to be one kick ass tracking system to pull that off.
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Heat?
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Railguns hurl projectiles at 3,500 m/s (11,500 ft/s, approximately Mach 10 at sea level).

They can also shoot over 50 kilometres.

"The first weaponized railgun planned for production, the General Atomics Blitzer system, began full system testing in September 2010. The weapon launches a streamlined discarding sabot round designed by Boeing's Phantom Works at 1600 m/s (approximately Mach 5) with accelerations exceeding 60,000 g's.[21] During one of the tests, the projectile was able to travel an additional 7km (~4 mi) downrange after penetrating a 1/8 inch (3 mm) thick steel plate. The company hopes to have an integrated demo of the system by 2016 followed by production by 2019, pending funding. Thus far, the project is self-funded.[22]"


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Anyone who says that meteor couldn't have been shot down is fucking dumbass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34494403


The slowest meteor is 11 km/sec and up to 70 km/sec. Your railgun, 3.5 km/sec. Ain't gonna happen.
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The example listed was a smaller one under development in 2010.

If you read further along the article, you'll see 5800 m/s confirmed speeds as well, from years ago.

And do you think anything on Wiki is even a decade within current undisclosed military technology?

Russia is full of industrial closed cities and power plants. They've been experimenting with high-energy weapons for decades. I doubt they're far behind the US if at all.
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Re: 30 Second Update - Russian Meteor Shot Down:CONFIRMED?
That would have to be one kick ass tracking system to pull that off.
 Quoting: mr2


Heat?
 Quoting: TastyThoughts



Railguns are not heat seeking.

They calculate the speed and the trajectory and lead the target to hit it.


They can bring missiles out of the sky with a Rail Gun.


The same principle here, the meteor was coming in at a known angle and speed.
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Re: 30 Second Update - Russian Meteor Shot Down:CONFIRMED?
The railgun projectile hit the meteor on its side.

It didnt come from behind and shoot past it.

You have to look at the angle, it came in from the side and came out the other side.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15740069


oooh railgun sounds even better.
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lol

How about an illudium Q-36 explosive space modulator?

Marvin The Martian style.

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the angle of the video can be deceiving it could be the start of the breakup, fragments ejecting
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Then the fragments would be traveling faster then the meteor itself.. which is highly unlikely.
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Re: 30 Second Update - Russian Meteor Shot Down:CONFIRMED?
They have computers that work out the trajectory.

All they have to do is calculate how much to lead the target.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15740069


So you think we can detect an incoming meteor, identify what it is, determine a launch and intecept path, launch an interceptor, and then intercept it all within 10 to 15 seconds.
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Re: 30 Second Update - Russian Meteor Shot Down:CONFIRMED?
Railguns hurl projectiles at 3,500 m/s (11,500 ft/s, approximately Mach 10 at sea level).

They can also shoot over 50 kilometres.

"The first weaponized railgun planned for production, the General Atomics Blitzer system, began full system testing in September 2010. The weapon launches a streamlined discarding sabot round designed by Boeing's Phantom Works at 1600 m/s (approximately Mach 5) with accelerations exceeding 60,000 g's.[21] During one of the tests, the projectile was able to travel an additional 7km (~4 mi) downrange after penetrating a 1/8 inch (3 mm) thick steel plate. The company hopes to have an integrated demo of the system by 2016 followed by production by 2019, pending funding. Thus far, the project is self-funded.[22]"


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Anyone who says that meteor couldn't have been shot down is fucking dumbass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34494403


The slowest meteor is 11 km/sec and up to 70 km/sec. Your railgun, 3.5 km/sec. Ain't gonna happen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33444413


The example listed was a smaller one under development in 2010.

If you read further along the article, you'll see 5800 m/s confirmed speeds as well, from years ago.

And do you think anything on Wiki is even a decade within current undisclosed military technology?

Russia is full of industrial closed cities and power plants. They've been experimenting with high-energy weapons for decades. I doubt they're far behind the US if at all.
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5.8 km/sec is still not 11 km/sec or 70 km/sec
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Re: 30 Second Update - Russian Meteor Shot Down:CONFIRMED?
Well ain't that the weirdest shit I've seen all day...

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Are ya sure???? Seems it's getting crazier by the second.
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Re: 30 Second Update - Russian Meteor Shot Down:CONFIRMED?
Look, something obviously caught up with the meteor and blew it apart.

You can SEE it impact, then the meteor break apart, and the mass suddenly starts losing altitude fast.

We can debate what actually did hit the meteor all we want...

But there's no way in Hell a chunk of the meteor broke off, and then caught up with, and exploded, the meteor. That's impossible.

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