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MOLON LABE: Oath Keepers Founder Gives Speech To 3,000 NY Gun Owners; Sets April 19th Deadline For Public Servants To Choose Sides. So It Begins!

 
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Aaand another useful idiot who worships genetic psychopathy (Marxism) and government (Corporations)...

goaway
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34603952


Aaaah....capitalism....best kept family secret.

Hey Helmut!! Go for it tough guy. Go for dat Liberty.

tounge
 Quoting: Marxist


So you really believe in this pathetic and programmed left vs right, "capitalism" vs communism paradigm BS?

Properly explained to save my time and effort...

"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs. Communism or, more accurately, socialism is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite." -Gary Allen, Concord Press, 1971

The super rich world banksters you Marxists hate so much are genetic psychopaths who actually invented and still support Marxism/Communism/Socialism to enslave the masses.

This system/ideology is based on the lack of conscience and empathy of genetic psychopaths like Marx was, they are the natural apex predator of humanity where humanity believes it has none.

[link to www.fbi.gov]

"In general, psychopaths are glib and charming, and they use these attributes to manipulate others into trusting and believing in them. This may lead to people giving them money, voting them into office or, possibly, being murdered by them. [...] Many psychopaths have little difficulty joining the ranks of business, politics, law enforcement, government, and academia. They exist in all lines of work, from executive to blue-collar professions"

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

"Superficially charming, psychopaths tend to make a good first impression on others and often strike observers as remarkably normal [...] Yes, politicians are more likely than people in the general population to be sociopaths. I think you would find no expert in the field of sociopathy/psychopathy/antisocial personality disorder who would dispute this... That a small minority of human beings literally have no conscience was and is a bitter pill for our society to swallow -- but it does explain a great many things, shamelessly deceitful political behavior being one [...] A smart sociopath can avoid prison and find other, less conspicuous ways to satisfy his or her lust for dominating and controlling others, and what better way than through politics and big business?" -Dr. Martha Stout
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dead on observations. To bad there are so many useful idiots like marxist. Unless he is a psychopath himself.
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Aaand another useful idiot who worships genetic psychopathy (Marxism) and government (Corporations)...

goaway
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34603952


Aaaah....capitalism....best kept family secret.

Hey Helmut!! Go for it tough guy. Go for dat Liberty.

tounge
 Quoting: Marxist


So you really believe in this pathetic and programmed left vs right, "capitalism" vs communism paradigm BS?

Properly explained to save my time and effort...

"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs. Communism or, more accurately, socialism is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite." -Gary Allen, Concord Press, 1971

The super rich world banksters you Marxists hate so much are genetic psychopaths who actually invented and still support Marxism/Communism/Socialism to enslave the masses.

This system/ideology is based on the lack of conscience and empathy of genetic psychopaths like Marx was, they are the natural apex predator of humanity where humanity believes it has none.

[link to www.fbi.gov]

"In general, psychopaths are glib and charming, and they use these attributes to manipulate others into trusting and believing in them. This may lead to people giving them money, voting them into office or, possibly, being murdered by them. [...] Many psychopaths have little difficulty joining the ranks of business, politics, law enforcement, government, and academia. They exist in all lines of work, from executive to blue-collar professions"

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

"Superficially charming, psychopaths tend to make a good first impression on others and often strike observers as remarkably normal [...] Yes, politicians are more likely than people in the general population to be sociopaths. I think you would find no expert in the field of sociopathy/psychopathy/antisocial personality disorder who would dispute this... That a small minority of human beings literally have no conscience was and is a bitter pill for our society to swallow -- but it does explain a great many things, shamelessly deceitful political behavior being one [...] A smart sociopath can avoid prison and find other, less conspicuous ways to satisfy his or her lust for dominating and controlling others, and what better way than through politics and big business?" -Dr. Martha Stout
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34603952


Listen German. The American Civil War was between two groups of Anglo-Saxons. One group sought to reinvent England in the colonies (America) complete with serfs who were Africans. The second group followed the Motherland in abandoning feudalism for capitalism. This lot don't want slaves but workers.

Herr Hitler tried to push Britain aside in creating his own German Empire. He failed as he got confused over how capitalism really works. Give Karl Marx his due...he understood.

Apart from trying to blitz the Empire again, the chances of my rich Anglo-Saxon bro's giving up the golden goose of capitalism for a few measly bucks from growing corn with slave labour is pretty much zilch.

Marx had a good handle on things so I gotta say to he makse sense. BUT go get dat liberty, German bro. Hahaha. It'll be fun watching you scratch your head...or was that your arse.
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Thread full of weak whytes pounding on their keyboards in impotent, manlet froth. lmao
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laugh
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Thread full of weak whytes pounding on their keyboards in impotent, manlet froth. lmao
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Hahahaha. Mostly bitches for da bwass as well!!!
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Thread full of weak whytes pounding on their keyboards in impotent, manlet froth. lmao
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It would be nice if it wasn't just us whites. All my black friends are like most of my white friends more interested in porn and drinking and completely oblivious of anything else. this country would be amazing if other groups of people started to really wake up.
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Aaand another useful idiot who worships genetic psychopathy (Marxism) and government (Corporations)...

goaway
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34603952


Aaaah....capitalism....best kept family secret.

Hey Helmut!! Go for it tough guy. Go for dat Liberty.

tounge
 Quoting: Marxist


So you really believe in this pathetic and programmed left vs right, "capitalism" vs communism paradigm BS?

Properly explained to save my time and effort...

"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs. Communism or, more accurately, socialism is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite." -Gary Allen, Concord Press, 1971

The super rich world banksters you Marxists hate so much are genetic psychopaths who actually invented and still support Marxism/Communism/Socialism to enslave the masses.

This system/ideology is based on the lack of conscience and empathy of genetic psychopaths like Marx was, they are the natural apex predator of humanity where humanity believes it has none.

[link to www.fbi.gov]

"In general, psychopaths are glib and charming, and they use these attributes to manipulate others into trusting and believing in them. This may lead to people giving them money, voting them into office or, possibly, being murdered by them. [...] Many psychopaths have little difficulty joining the ranks of business, politics, law enforcement, government, and academia. They exist in all lines of work, from executive to blue-collar professions"

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

"Superficially charming, psychopaths tend to make a good first impression on others and often strike observers as remarkably normal [...] Yes, politicians are more likely than people in the general population to be sociopaths. I think you would find no expert in the field of sociopathy/psychopathy/antisocial personality disorder who would dispute this... That a small minority of human beings literally have no conscience was and is a bitter pill for our society to swallow -- but it does explain a great many things, shamelessly deceitful political behavior being one [...] A smart sociopath can avoid prison and find other, less conspicuous ways to satisfy his or her lust for dominating and controlling others, and what better way than through politics and big business?" -Dr. Martha Stout
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34603952


Listen German. The American Civil War was between two groups of Anglo-Saxons. One group sought to reinvent England in the colonies (America) complete with serfs who were Africans. The second group followed the Motherland in abandoning feudalism for capitalism. This lot don't want slaves but workers.

Herr Hitler tried to push Britain aside in creating his own German Empire. He failed as he got confused over how capitalism really works. Give Karl Marx his due...he understood.

Apart from trying to blitz the Empire again, the chances of my rich Anglo-Saxon bro's giving up the golden goose of capitalism for a few measly bucks from growing corn with slave labour is pretty much zilch.

Marx had a good handle on things so I gotta say to he makse sense. BUT go get dat liberty, German bro. Hahaha. It'll be fun watching you scratch your head...or was that your arse.
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You show me a place that communism brought about a great society you would like to live in. Even china is a wierd mix of capitalism and communism now. North korea is a truly marxist country. Would you like to live there?
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Millions of gun owners are going to do exactly what they are told to do when push comes to shove. That is a fact that you will just have to accept. Just because someone is a gun owner does not keep them from also being a sheeple. If you can't see it, you are delusional.

Maybe thousands will not comply. Those will be your heros. You will see them on TV in the news, just like Dorner.

Many of those people in this video were smiling, laughing, cheering and having a good time. They really have no clue what they are getting themselves into. The clueless will scatter like cockroaches when TSHTF in their faces. I doubt you'll be able to truly count on many of those people at that rally when the body count skyrockets, unless they get a mortality clue real fast. Take a look as some Syria videos from Liveleak if you need a lesson on how nasty war looks. Will they still be smiling when their little daughter's brains are splattered all over their faces?

The real operators know better than to show up and put their faces in the DHS facial recognition database that everyone there did.

But some people have to make a show of support for the cause, right? Those will become the first martyrs. Say a prayer for their families.

Good luck, keyboard hero.
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Here's my understanding of the motive for gun control now: TPTB are getting ready to crash the US economy. They are going to bleed it dry first, then pull the plug. They understand there will be chaos and riots everywhere. That's why they are going to head for their guarded bunkers, to stay safely underground for awhile so nobody can get to them easily.

They learned from Israel, Afghanistan & Iraq that isolated above-ground compounds are vulnerable to attack from their enemies by indirect actions such as impr0vised m0rtars, impr0vised r0ckets, and home-made UAVs, etc. But they are virtually untouchable in underground guarded bunkers with self-contained air supplies to guard from forest fires, ch3m attacks, etc. They can get military or merc units to guard them up above their lairs.

But they are not so afraid of criminals with guns, because those types will run around looting and murdering usually only locally. What they do fear however are smart patriots who are armed and organized. They fear them the most, that they will come after them in vengence or for regime change. So it is a self-preservation move of desperation to disarm the law-abiding citizens before they pull the plug on the economy and the nation. But it will be done.

They know that they will not achieve all their gun right's violations by legislation and EO's alone, so they want chaos, riots and general rebellion to break out in order to institute a defacto Marshall law throughout the nation. Then they will have the excuse they need to completely trash what's left of the US Constitution and go grab the guns directly with the US & UN militaries as well as Blackwater mercs.

They can funnel as many foreign militaries (incl. the Chinese and Russians) as they want into the country to fight the "d0mestic terr0rist patri0ts" as long as they just give them baby blue helmets to wear. This War of Federal Aggression could go on for 10 or more years if they need it to. No other nation is going to come to the aid of the patri0ts. They will be on their own, until they are wiped out or surrender.

It's sad, but how can a bunch of disorganized patri0ts go up against the combined militaries of at least half of the US military, half of the US police forces, most of DHS and the other alphabets, plus several other militaries coming in from all around the world hiding under blue helmets? I'm sure those armies will be promised lots of worthless money and other goodies for their "humanitarian aid" to TPTB here. And the Lame-stream media will dutifully broadcast their scripts as instructed to keep everyone around the world turned against the "d0mestic terr0rists."

Once the nation is disarmed and the "rebellion" is purged, the Corporate slavery will begin and the NWO can begin consolidating nations in earnest. Canada and Mexico will be next, along with maybe Cerntral and South America, unless Brazil gets brave and somehow gets Russia and China to help it intervene and stall progress in South America. Then the American Union will merge with the EU and the NWO will be finally realized.

And it all hinges on America's guns.


The Age of Man is almost finished.

Only God can save us now.

Peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34318818


No cigar.

Did you see how much trouble, aggravation, confusion and paranoia Dorner caused, all by himself?

And he was a lunatic.

So multiply him times a few million sane gun owners who tell the goddamned government to go fuck itself and try to imagine the outcome.

The wheels of the machine would freeze.

Any rational person on either side of this argument does not want this to happen.

Don't think for one second though that it can't. We embarrassed the world's mightiest empire in the 1770's. We killed hundreds of thousands of each other in the 1860's. We fought the battle of Athens, TN.

And now, today, we are awake like never before. Go to a gun store in the States and listen to people bring up civil war and say "molon la vay."

It's easy to sit on your fat ass in Mongolia and tell us we're losers. I suppose you get a sense of satisfaction by projecting your own failures and insecurities on American gun owners. You think you're smart and so well spoken with your fine education, but at the end of the day you're just another whining intellectual coward.
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I think you can multiply Dorner's drama by maybe thousands, but not millions. And it will be chaos, just as they want. They want an excuse to bring in the military. Don't you think more drama than Dorner's existed in Iraq and in Afganistan? Of course it did. And they used the military against the chaos. And they'll do so again, once they purge out all the non-compliers from it's ranks. And they can always call in blue-helmet reinforcements whenever needed.

But you are right in that the wheels of the machine will freeze. But that's going to happen anyway when they hyperinflate the USD. It's all part of the plan.

Of course I don't want any of this to happen, but my desires concerning this are irrelevant.

Today is not 1776, the patriots don't have equal firepower any longer, thanks to them allowing incroaching gun control over the past seveal decades. Plus in this age, the civilians will never have the military power of the gov't, so the old comparisons are moot if TPTB decide to use all their resoruces against their citizens.

The only way the 1860's scenario will happen again is if several States grow a pair and decide to seceed, and somehow manage to take their military bases and armies with them. But they won't have any friendly nations to back them up this time.

Many people are awake to the fact that they are about to lose their gun rights, so they are buying up guns and ammo while they can, before it's banned. Don't mistake that for the idea of citizens preparing for war.

I'm not telling you that you are a loser. I am trying to get you to see the bigger picture though, a more realistic one. It's not about me or my situation, it's about your nation's survival or lack thereof.

Cowardice is not handling this problem 20 years ago when you should have. Now you will have to deal with the consequences of the total grip of tyranny around your throats. Don't kill the messenger, just look in a mirror if you want to make accusations.

I'm not whining about anything. I'm just trying to instill a little reality check to a delusional nation. The slaves moan loudest when they wake up from their slumber and first discover the chains around their neck, wrists and ankles.

But I'm telling you that you still have time to get yourself or your family out of the country before TSHTF. If you choose not to, then please watch as many Syrian, Afgani, Iraqi and Bosnian war videos as you can in order to give you a clue about what comes next.

Good luck!
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It sounds really cool until you see your ideas in action then it's only cool if you like absolute corruption, mass killings, absolute squalor and thats just a tiny bit of what goes on. listen to people who have lived in countries that had these types of systems set up then you will realize that all your pseudo-intellectual bs is just a bunch of lies.
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Aaaah....capitalism....best kept family secret.

Hey Helmut!! Go for it tough guy. Go for dat Liberty.

tounge
 Quoting: Marxist


So you really believe in this pathetic and programmed left vs right, "capitalism" vs communism paradigm BS?

Properly explained to save my time and effort...

"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs. Communism or, more accurately, socialism is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite." -Gary Allen, Concord Press, 1971

The super rich world banksters you Marxists hate so much are genetic psychopaths who actually invented and still support Marxism/Communism/Socialism to enslave the masses.

This system/ideology is based on the lack of conscience and empathy of genetic psychopaths like Marx was, they are the natural apex predator of humanity where humanity believes it has none.

[link to www.fbi.gov]

"In general, psychopaths are glib and charming, and they use these attributes to manipulate others into trusting and believing in them. This may lead to people giving them money, voting them into office or, possibly, being murdered by them. [...] Many psychopaths have little difficulty joining the ranks of business, politics, law enforcement, government, and academia. They exist in all lines of work, from executive to blue-collar professions"

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

"Superficially charming, psychopaths tend to make a good first impression on others and often strike observers as remarkably normal [...] Yes, politicians are more likely than people in the general population to be sociopaths. I think you would find no expert in the field of sociopathy/psychopathy/antisocial personality disorder who would dispute this... That a small minority of human beings literally have no conscience was and is a bitter pill for our society to swallow -- but it does explain a great many things, shamelessly deceitful political behavior being one [...] A smart sociopath can avoid prison and find other, less conspicuous ways to satisfy his or her lust for dominating and controlling others, and what better way than through politics and big business?" -Dr. Martha Stout
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Listen German. The American Civil War was between two groups of Anglo-Saxons. One group sought to reinvent England in the colonies (America) complete with serfs who were Africans. The second group followed the Motherland in abandoning feudalism for capitalism. This lot don't want slaves but workers.

Herr Hitler tried to push Britain aside in creating his own German Empire. He failed as he got confused over how capitalism really works. Give Karl Marx his due...he understood.

Apart from trying to blitz the Empire again, the chances of my rich Anglo-Saxon bro's giving up the golden goose of capitalism for a few measly bucks from growing corn with slave labour is pretty much zilch.

Marx had a good handle on things so I gotta say to he makse sense. BUT go get dat liberty, German bro. Hahaha. It'll be fun watching you scratch your head...or was that your arse.
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You show me a place that communism brought about a great society you would like to live in. Even china is a wierd mix of capitalism and communism now. North korea is a truly marxist country. Would you like to live there?
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You gotta understand, my wog friend, that capitalism is an Anglo-Saxon work in progress as we spread civilisation to the four corners of the world.

Now if you had your way, what would we have. A corn based economy in which no one was paid a dime and we all wore rags and drank moonshine (or the wog equivalent).

Be glad that we civilised you and stop whining. In due course, our heritage will evolve to something even better.
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Thank you for your views.

I think there is one thing they fear more than patriots on the streets with guns. And that is patriots on the streets with their guns at home.

Massive civilian and peaceful protests, where you give the police and military lots of love, will break the Devil's neck. Demand only a few things that focuses on the cause of all evil. Demand the constitution back. Demand that the power over the dollar is handed back to the people. Demand an end to the monopoly in mass media.

No guns. 100 percent non-violent. Just millions of loving people demanding a better world.

There should be peaceful protests all over the USA right now. There should be sit-ins, blow horns, citizen journalists, and civil disobedience everywhere, but there is not, because not enough people care about this cause to do that nationwide. But ALL peoceful remedies should be thoroughly exhausted before anything further could ever be considered to be "justified." Otherwise, the patri0ts will lose any public support they ever thought of having.

There need to be thousands of Mahatma Gandhis running around and peacefully resisting with their lives if need be, getting maximum press coverage for their cause. But there are not. There are just a few thousand newly awakened patri0ts rallying and having a good time. They are not ready for what comes next. I'm just trying to raise patri0ts' awareness to the next level, the level it needs to be at to get a clue about what comes next.

TPTB have called protests low-level terr0rism, so they think the 0ath Keepers are 'd0mestic terr0rists,' and will treat them accordingly.

The drones will be armed.
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Aaand another useful idiot who worships genetic psychopathy (Marxism) and government (Corporations)...

goaway
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34603952


Aaaah....capitalism....best kept family secret.

Hey Helmut!! Go for it tough guy. Go for dat Liberty.

tounge
 Quoting: Marxist


So you really believe in this pathetic and programmed left vs right, "capitalism" vs communism paradigm BS?

Properly explained to save my time and effort...

"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs. Communism or, more accurately, socialism is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite." -Gary Allen, Concord Press, 1971

The super rich world banksters you Marxists hate so much are genetic psychopaths who actually invented and still support Marxism/Communism/Socialism to enslave the masses.

This system/ideology is based on the lack of conscience and empathy of genetic psychopaths like Marx was, they are the natural apex predator of humanity where humanity believes it has none.

[link to www.fbi.gov]

"In general, psychopaths are glib and charming, and they use these attributes to manipulate others into trusting and believing in them. This may lead to people giving them money, voting them into office or, possibly, being murdered by them. [...] Many psychopaths have little difficulty joining the ranks of business, politics, law enforcement, government, and academia. They exist in all lines of work, from executive to blue-collar professions"

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

"Superficially charming, psychopaths tend to make a good first impression on others and often strike observers as remarkably normal [...] Yes, politicians are more likely than people in the general population to be sociopaths. I think you would find no expert in the field of sociopathy/psychopathy/antisocial personality disorder who would dispute this... That a small minority of human beings literally have no conscience was and is a bitter pill for our society to swallow -- but it does explain a great many things, shamelessly deceitful political behavior being one [...] A smart sociopath can avoid prison and find other, less conspicuous ways to satisfy his or her lust for dominating and controlling others, and what better way than through politics and big business?" -Dr. Martha Stout
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34603952


Listen German. The American Civil War was between two groups of Anglo-Saxons. One group sought to reinvent England in the colonies (America) complete with serfs who were Africans. The second group followed the Motherland in abandoning feudalism for capitalism. This lot don't want slaves but workers.

Herr Hitler tried to push Britain aside in creating his own German Empire. He failed as he got confused over how capitalism really works. Give Karl Marx his due...he understood.

Apart from trying to blitz the Empire again, the chances of my rich Anglo-Saxon bro's giving up the golden goose of capitalism for a few measly bucks from growing corn with slave labour is pretty much zilch.

Marx had a good handle on things so I gotta say to he makse sense. BUT go get dat liberty, German bro. Hahaha. It'll be fun watching you scratch your head...or was that your arse.
 Quoting: Marxist


Marx was a psychopath just like his masters/handlers.

His masters also financed both the nazis and soviets in WW2 hence the same occult symbolism and roots, they staged the entire war to justify the EU(SSR), UN, Isreal etc...order out of chaos...Stalin and Hitler etc were all puppets just like Obama today...

The american civil war was also started by the same psychopathic banksters, it was not about slavery in the way idiots like you think it was...

They abolished INvoluntary slavery with the 13th amendment and introduced voluntary slavery with the new 14th amendment US citizen-SHIP. It was a clever con and the beginning of socialism (democracy) in america...

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The difference between the tactics used in Iraq and Afghanistan is that TPTB went easy on the insurgents there, in the U.S., they will crush rebellion hard. Just shows you how evil they really are.
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Impossible. There are americans under the uniforms. That have friends and families in the US. There will be massive mutiny if they are ordered to kill US civilians.

TPTB know this and that is why they move drones to US. And foreign troops. And arm TSA-goons to the teeth.
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Impossible in the old paradigm. But they are purging the ranks of the military, DHS and the other alphabets of patri0ts now. They only want human drones under those uniforms now, so they are thinning their ranks accordingly.

Plus they are bringing in foreigners to do the dirty work the indigenous military personnel won't have the stomach to do.

Plus they are demonizing their political adversaries (patri0ts, gun owners, birthers, truthers, pro-lifers & Christians, etc.) to all their troops to brainwash them into thinking they are 'domestic terr0rists.'

It's not so hard to shoot someone you have been conditioned to hate. Every tyrant knows that. The beat of the war drums is now reaching a fevered pitch.
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Thread full of weak whytes pounding on their keyboards in impotent, manlet froth. lmao
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Hahahaha. Mostly bitches for da bwass as well!!!
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and assimilated kiwis and aussie shills as well.
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Having a good grounding in Anglo-Saxon history helps. Problem with America is that is overrun with foreigners who haven't a fart arses clue as to how Anglo-Saxonia gave rise to bourgeoise capitalism and just how much a part of the Anglo-Saxon elite worldwide, it is. That Russian chick...wats'ername...Orly Taitz is a good example.

They run off half-cocked then scratch their rear ends in bewilderment when nothing changes.



You hung up and ashamed of your Angle/Saxon roots?


Actually the rise of the bourgoius rose in Europe, as people in cities (such as they were) such as highly skilled tradesmen (ever been to a Cathedral in Europe?) got annoyed at being treated as slaves and over taxed by the nobility and their communist kings and queens.

It was the European cities and towns that started the rebellions against the crowns of the day and demanded more rights.


You see Marxist, it wasn't JUST that cities were allowed to raise WALLS for defense, but the cities ALSO armed themselves.


ONCE THEY DISCOVERED THAT THEY THE PEOPLE HAD THE MILITARY MEANS TO DEFY THE RULING CLASS THAT YOU SEEM TO HATE SO MUCH, THEY REDISCOVERED RUDIMENTARY DEMOCRACY.


You seem to prefer the Soviet and Communist China style of rule.


Mass murder of your own citizens anyone?


YOU have some very recent examples. Commies hate armed peasants no matter how much they sociopathicly lie about how much they love them and equality.


History proves otherwise.
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If this starts every patriot in the other states needs to step in and help our brothers. They can not defeat the whole USA. If God be for us who can be against us. Much time needs to be spent in prayer that God go before us and make our way straight. Pray people Pray.
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We should pray to God to give us wisdom in this time of great need. I fear many if not most patri0ts will not put God first with regard to this crisis. I think the original colonists put God first in their lives and before their nation, and God blessed them with victory. I'm not so sure that will happen this time. I'm just not seeing it. I haven't heard much of God being invoked to save this nation from it's enemies. And without God's support, everyting good will fail.

Will God continue to bless the nation of the USA? Or will the millions of murdered babies, global theft and all the perpetual wars finally cause a rift between the nation and its God? Oh wait, Obama said the USA is not a Christian nation. Perhaps he has chosen the nation's fate for you already.

Did God always save Israel from it's enemies? Sometimes, when Israel strayed away from God, He lifted his divine protection and allowed Israel's enemies to destroy it. Could that too happen to a disobedient USA?
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Having a good grounding in Anglo-Saxon history helps. Problem with America is that is overrun with foreigners who haven't a fart arses clue as to how Anglo-Saxonia gave rise to bourgeoise capitalism and just how much a part of the Anglo-Saxon elite worldwide, it is. That Russian chick...wats'ername...Orly Taitz is a good example.

They run off half-cocked then scratch their rear ends in bewilderment when nothing changes.



You hung up and ashamed of your Angle/Saxon roots?


Actually the rise of the bourgoius rose in Europe, as people in cities (such as they were) such as highly skilled tradesmen (ever been to a Cathedral in Europe?) got annoyed at being treated as slaves and over taxed by the nobility and their communist kings and queens.

It was the European cities and towns that started the rebellions against the crowns of the day and demanded more rights.


You see Marxist, it wasn't JUST that cities were allowed to raise WALLS for defense, but the cities ALSO armed themselves.


ONCE THEY DISCOVERED THAT THEY THE PEOPLE HAD THE MILITARY MEANS TO DEFY THE RULING CLASS THAT YOU SEEM TO HATE SO MUCH, THEY REDISCOVERED RUDIMENTARY DEMOCRACY.


You seem to prefer the Soviet and Communist China style of rule.


Mass murder of your own citizens anyone?


YOU have some very recent examples. Commies hate armed peasants no matter how much they sociopathicly lie about how much they love them and equality.


History proves otherwise.
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You talk absolute gobshite. Capitalism is based on the rise of the bourgeoisie WITHIN Anglo-Saxon unwritten law (not written Roman law). Within that rose such concepts as due process, merit and of course, the rule of law. Out went feudal corn growing servitude. Industrialising English cities were the heart for the rise of the new accumulative process which incidentally, no other industrialsed culture has been able to amplify and extend other than the Anglo-Saxon countries. Thus it is no surprise that the exchanges through which global capital flows remains firmly in the Anglo-Saxon lands.

With that came the modernity thet elevated the barbarian. We have yet unfinished business in the Arab Empire and beyond. But never doubt that this project is a gift to mankind and I for one, abhor the barbarians who under the guise of liberty, seek to revive inefficient corn economies.

We are for the better with the modernity of capitalism and all that it brings in terms of order and opportunity. I am most certainly not for bogus liberty bearers who seek to bring back the sort of arbitrary backwardness you find in the Arab Empire.

This modernity will be the basis for our next leap so take your backwardness and shove it where the sun don't shine.
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one thing no one has mentioned not only well our vets of all ages stand up. you have forgotten these are our brothers sisters parents and grandparents. these are people we all respect and love. the people will have blood in their eyes and nashing their teeth when or if they mishandle our loved ones..those idot politicians will not find a a place they can run from the hoards of angry people. don't be so stupid as to think we do not know who they are.americans love their families too
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The politicos will put the US military, mercenaries, blue helmets and underground bunkers/cities between them and any angry patri0ts. So yes, they already have their places to run to in order to avoid the ramifications of their scheduled coming time of chaos.

Do you have a place of refuge for your family?
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The battlefield will be your homes. You will be there unless you evacuate them. And so will your children.

Time is not on your side. TPTB will shut off your access to guns, ammo, MRE's, military surplus equipment, medical aid, the national borders, and eventually your funds and communications. They have more resources than you, and allied militaries to call upon. You will have no allied nations come to your rescue, or to give you funds and real military equipment like the Afganis have.

No, time is decidedly not on your side.
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You talk absolute gobshite. Capitalism is based on the rise of the bourgeoisie WITHIN Anglo-Saxon unwritten law (not written Roman law). Within that rose such concepts as due process, merit and of course, the rule of law. Out went feudal corn growing servitude. Industrialising English cities were the heart for the rise of the new accumulative process which incidentally, no other industrialsed culture has been able to amplify and extend other than the Anglo-Saxon countries. Thus it is no surprise that the exchanges through which global capital flows remains firmly in the Anglo-Saxon lands.


You are so full of it. College student?



The term capitalism, in its modern sense, comes from the writings of Karl Marx.[4] Before Marx, "capitalism" simply referred to the possession of capital.[10]


Capitalism existed in the ancient world. It was reinvented in the Western world with the collapse of feudalism, brought about BY ARMED PEOPLE.


You are hung up on Angle Saxons for some reason. And neither the Angles nor the Saxons control the modern monetary (made up fiat) system. That is controlled mainly by Jewish banking families and THEIR interbreeding with many of the ruling families of Europe and England.

The rest are the banking families of the USA and the families that created the US secret services.


The very same people that funded your philosophically absurd communist systems are the very same people who have enslaved you and all of Europe and only have to finish off America and Canada for a completely disarmed slave class.



You aren't even a marxist are you. You support the ruling classes. Too bad you are only one pawn among millions to them.
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No guns. 100 percent non-violent. Just millions of loving people demanding a better world.
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This is total idiocy. You can't win over everyone and there will always be those who will bow to the money or safety of working with the best gangsters of the age. Peaceful protest doesn't amount to jack shit any more because they know that the protestors don't have any balls behind them.
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Learn from history. A violent revolution is almost always followed by a violent government.

Most dictators fall during the peaceful stage of the revolution. And a violent revolution is bound to fail if the peaceful stage is skipped.

TPTB WANT you to take to arms NOW. If you start massive peaceful protests and show your love for the police and military, then you win. Without the police and military on your side, no one will remember the second american revolution.

The arab uprisings last year toppled omnipotent dictators without much violence. They succeded because they won over the hearts and minds of the military. In Syria they skipped that stage. And are about to be exterminated.

If you call for a violent uprising at this point, I call you a shill.
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You shot down your own argument when you referred to the Arab Spring. Egypt got their Muzzie Bruthers who promptly went full blown dictator. That is to be expected because the whole Arab Spring was a Psyop with the USA and UN pulling the strings.

I agree with most of what you say but you used a shitty example to make your point.

A violent civil uprising is going to happen in the USA. It is inevitable because TPTB are going to keep pushing the massed to the breaking point.
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Yes, they want that to happen. In fact, they are counting on it. It will give them justification for Marshall law and gun confiscations by the military, mercs & blue helmets.

Patri0ts will be dancing to the tune of their song as if they were marionette puppets.

It's all in the script.
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The timing is perfect

Obama, Putin and the Queen

Check how many days old these 3 enemies of the United States are on April 21st

This does not happen by "chance"

We are entering the final furlong and I urge YOU to do all you can for the Nation

This is it people, this is the call

There is not much time left

I back you 100%

I will do all I can to warn you when needs be

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Has your country considered leaving the evil ECC?

The NWO doesn't stop on the far side of the Atlantic, you know...
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What a terrible shame America has to come to this.
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not to me i grew up with a contitution in my home and as i traveled much of life i have alwys taken a copy with me.our contituion means something so dear to us you must not have the same or you would understand
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It would sound more sincere you know if you would just spell the word you revere so much accurately.

It would give you more perceived credibility.

Just say'in.
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What a terrible shame America has to come to this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34563074


The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.


~Thomas Jefferson

That time is very near.
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That is not the way, there are onky 3000 people, there are millions in New York alone, and the army and police far outnumber these people, if they start a militia campaign they will not make it, perhaps they will be the first to die and made an example of, this will not end well.

Surely there must be another way? Do you really think it is worth being imprisoned or worse, dying for?
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They could go Gandhi on them en mass, but I doubt that would help. TPTB will still squash them like a bug.

But the masses rolling over and just taking it might be ok as a sheeple solution, but it'll never work as a patri0t solution.

Some states could seceed, then all the patri0ts could migrate there and prepare for a long defensive war, a la Taiwan, assuming the seceeding states took control of their strategic military resources. But that's a long-shot as most states are full of sheeple who would not go along with such an "anti-American idea" as secession, lol. You can thank public education for that brainwashing.

Or, the patri0ts could 'Go Galt' and bug-out to other far away countries to wait for the NWO to implode upon itself. But that could take years.

Some have already made their choice.
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What a terrible shame America has to come to this.
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The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.


~Thomas Jefferson

That time is very near.
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That is not the way, there are onky 3000 people, there are millions in New York alone, and the army and police far outnumber these people, if they start a militia campaign they will not make it, perhaps they will be the first to die and made an example of, this will not end well.

Surely there must be another way? Do you really think it is worth being imprisoned or worse, dying for?
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We are acting just like the germans did when Hitler took over and they were ultimately held accountable for his crimes for allowing it to happen.bump
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Yes, Nero played the fiddle as Rome burned and the masses were running around trying to put out the fires around their beloved homes.

This time, B.O. fiddles while the USA burns as the masses debate amongst themselves how best to put out the fires. And some think protesting and 'taking a stand' will put out the fires for them. The fires are much larger than just their beloved issues. The whole City is aflame!

If I were in Rome as it was burning down, I'd get out and take an extended leave of absense for awhile. But that's just me.
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MONGOLOID IDIOT
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What a terrible shame America has to come to this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34563074


The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.


~Thomas Jefferson

That time is very near.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30850836


That is not the way, there are onky 3000 people, there are millions in New York alone, and the army and police far outnumber these people, if they start a militia campaign they will not make it, perhaps they will be the first to die and made an example of, this will not end well.

Surely there must be another way? Do you really think it is worth being imprisoned or worse, dying for?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34563074


mr. mexico.....

if protecting your own freedom is not worth dying for WHAT IS?
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Of course it is. But if you already know the outcome is going to be one of a lost cause in advance, do you still go through with your sacrifice?

For instance, if you lived in Germany in 1933 as a Jewish person, and knew what the future held, would you stay and fight? Or would you leave before TSHTF?

Some of us already know this outcome in advance.

The NWO has a date of reckoning coming with God, and no man is going to prevent that from happening. And the USA is the current public vanguard of the NWO.

If I was a conscript pressed into service on a monster warship (that used to be my luxury cruiseliner home) headed out to conquer the land and confront my real Captain in battle, should I stay and try in vain to turn the heavily guarded ship around? Or should I jump ship and find my way to a new home?

Some see clearly the handwriting on the wall.

Others don't.
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Who the hell is Mongol Man even talking to?
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MONGOLOID IDIOT
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Such a succinct responce overwhelms me with your exquisite mental prowess!

Please grace us with more of your esteemed intellect!

I await with rapt anticipation!
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Who the hell is Mongol Man even talking to?
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Apparantly, just you.
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The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.


~Thomas Jefferson

That time is very near.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30850836


That is not the way, there are onky 3000 people, there are millions in New York alone, and the army and police far outnumber these people, if they start a militia campaign they will not make it, perhaps they will be the first to die and made an example of, this will not end well.

Surely there must be another way? Do you really think it is worth being imprisoned or worse, dying for?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34563074


We are acting just like the germans did when Hitler took over and they were ultimately held accountable for his crimes for allowing it to happen.bump
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we kept our mouth shut and complied back then.
millions of innocent died as a result.
no one wants to do the same mistake.
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Germany is also part of the NWO, but how many Germans today actually know this?

Get the word out. Everything you see happening in the USA will also happen to Europe too.

All of the West will be subjugated to the NWO.

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