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MOLON LABE: Oath Keepers Founder Gives Speech To 3,000 NY Gun Owners; Sets April 19th Deadline For Public Servants To Choose Sides. So It Begins!

 
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You talk absolute gobshite. Capitalism is based on the rise of the bourgeoisie WITHIN Anglo-Saxon unwritten law (not written Roman law). Within that rose such concepts as due process, merit and of course, the rule of law. Out went feudal corn growing servitude. Industrialising English cities were the heart for the rise of the new accumulative process which incidentally, no other industrialsed culture has been able to amplify and extend other than the Anglo-Saxon countries. Thus it is no surprise that the exchanges through which global capital flows remains firmly in the Anglo-Saxon lands.


You are so full of it. College student?



The term capitalism, in its modern sense, comes from the writings of Karl Marx.[4] Before Marx, "capitalism" simply referred to the possession of capital.[10]


Capitalism existed in the ancient world. It was reinvented in the Western world with the collapse of feudalism, brought about BY ARMED PEOPLE.


You are hung up on Angle Saxons for some reason. And neither the Angles nor the Saxons control the modern monetary (made up fiat) system. That is controlled mainly by Jewish banking families and THEIR interbreeding with many of the ruling families of Europe and England.

The rest are the banking families of the USA and the families that created the US secret services.


The very same people that funded your philosophically absurd communist systems are the very same people who have enslaved you and all of Europe and only have to finish off America and Canada for a completely disarmed slave class.



You aren't even a marxist are you. You support the ruling classes. Too bad you are only one pawn among millions to them.
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Just go away and play with the kids. Capital is by definition based on the accumulation of labour surplus within a modern, non-corn growing context. If you aren't able to figure that out, go out and read up on the nature of property ownership in the English common law. Fucking upstart!!
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The Treaty. Hahahahaha. Like it will make an ounce of a difference to whether capital is sent abroad for the best return. Keep dreaming, sunny Jimbo. Eventually, that nail in your arse may eventually switch that brain one. Who knows!!
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So I was right.
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Yeah you were right. You are stupid!

Probably some Russkie who tagged on Orly's coat tails when she made that crossing to the US in that bathtub.

Off yer go, Ivan...off to school with yer!!! Time to get some civilisation!
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[link to www.thedailydigest.org]

"Most of modern society’s problems are not new, save a few relating to technology. People don’t change, it is what it is. The founding fathers understood this well – that the basic application of human psychology always drives the issue. Once we understand this and clearly look at history we can see the rapid rise of crime in America was fostered to provoke a predetermined response: The weakness of dependence.

We rely on the State to protect us from criminals. Our children are conditioned this way while they are held hostage in prisons cleverly disguised as schools where the State strips away their creativity and replaces it with obedience training.

Our adults are so Pavlovian that they bleat like sheep for security that doesn’t (and cannot ever) exist. We’ve been slowly conditioned to this for nearly 100 years.

We’ve stopped holding ourselves responsible for our own lives and safety and have been instead taught to blame society for our problems, to look to the government for solutions, for our personal protection, and even sustenance.

Meanwhile, there is a tremendous body of Supreme Court case law which demonstrates reality: The police do not have any duty whatsoever to protect an individual. Indeed, there is a law suit pending right now in disarmed New York where City lawyers are claiming that they do not have a legal obligation to protect a citizen. Not to mention, this foolhardy reliance is based on a response which at best, takes several minutes to “rescue” you.

In places such as NYC or Chicago, your natural right of self defense has even been criminalized. You MUST dial 911 for a government sanctioned application of violence, or defend yourself and risk jail."
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[link to www.thedailydigest.org]

"Most of modern society’s problems are not new, save a few relating to technology. People don’t change, it is what it is. The founding fathers understood this well – that the basic application of human psychology always drives the issue. Once we understand this and clearly look at history we can see the rapid rise of crime in America was fostered to provoke a predetermined response: The weakness of dependence.

We rely on the State to protect us from criminals. Our children are conditioned this way while they are held hostage in prisons cleverly disguised as schools where the State strips away their creativity and replaces it with obedience training.

Our adults are so Pavlovian that they bleat like sheep for security that doesn’t (and cannot ever) exist. We’ve been slowly conditioned to this for nearly 100 years.

We’ve stopped holding ourselves responsible for our own lives and safety and have been instead taught to blame society for our problems, to look to the government for solutions, for our personal protection, and even sustenance.

Meanwhile, there is a tremendous body of Supreme Court case law which demonstrates reality: The police do not have any duty whatsoever to protect an individual. Indeed, there is a law suit pending right now in disarmed New York where City lawyers are claiming that they do not have a legal obligation to protect a citizen. Not to mention, this foolhardy reliance is based on a response which at best, takes several minutes to “rescue” you.

In places such as NYC or Chicago, your natural right of self defense has even been criminalized. You MUST dial 911 for a government sanctioned application of violence, or defend yourself and risk jail."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32876041

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32876041


Here, right here is a bush understanding of Anglo-Saxon norms. For one, the police are civil servants and as such, are obliged to act for the civil good. Secondly, lawyers are officers of the court and are obliged to act in upholding THE GOOD NAME OF THAT ARM OF THE STATE.....NOT.... protect citizens. The fact that they act in that regard to apply the law effectively in that venue, the presumption is that justice is served.

You people are making a mockery of the great traditions you were gifted. Is it any wonder that Piers is exasperated with you fools
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[link to www.thedailydigest.org]

"Most of modern society’s problems are not new, save a few relating to technology. People don’t change, it is what it is. The founding fathers understood this well – that the basic application of human psychology always drives the issue. Once we understand this and clearly look at history we can see the rapid rise of crime in America was fostered to provoke a predetermined response: The weakness of dependence.

We rely on the State to protect us from criminals. Our children are conditioned this way while they are held hostage in prisons cleverly disguised as schools where the State strips away their creativity and replaces it with obedience training.

Our adults are so Pavlovian that they bleat like sheep for security that doesn’t (and cannot ever) exist. We’ve been slowly conditioned to this for nearly 100 years.

We’ve stopped holding ourselves responsible for our own lives and safety and have been instead taught to blame society for our problems, to look to the government for solutions, for our personal protection, and even sustenance.

Meanwhile, there is a tremendous body of Supreme Court case law which demonstrates reality: The police do not have any duty whatsoever to protect an individual. Indeed, there is a law suit pending right now in disarmed New York where City lawyers are claiming that they do not have a legal obligation to protect a citizen. Not to mention, this foolhardy reliance is based on a response which at best, takes several minutes to “rescue” you.

In places such as NYC or Chicago, your natural right of self defense has even been criminalized. You MUST dial 911 for a government sanctioned application of violence, or defend yourself and risk jail."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32876041

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32876041


Here, right here is a bush understanding of Anglo-Saxon norms. For one, the police are civil servants and as such, are obliged to act for the civil good. Secondly, lawyers are officers of the court and are obliged to act in upholding THE GOOD NAME OF THAT ARM OF THE STATE.....NOT.... protect citizens. The fact that they act in that regard to apply the law effectively in that venue, the presumption is that justice is served.

You people are making a mockery of the great traditions you were gifted. Is it any wonder that Piers is exasperated with you fools
 Quoting: Marxist


The police are to the rulers as the edge is to the knife.
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[link to www.thedailydigest.org]

"Most of modern society’s problems are not new, save a few relating to technology. People don’t change, it is what it is. The founding fathers understood this well – that the basic application of human psychology always drives the issue. Once we understand this and clearly look at history we can see the rapid rise of crime in America was fostered to provoke a predetermined response: The weakness of dependence.

We rely on the State to protect us from criminals. Our children are conditioned this way while they are held hostage in prisons cleverly disguised as schools where the State strips away their creativity and replaces it with obedience training.

Our adults are so Pavlovian that they bleat like sheep for security that doesn’t (and cannot ever) exist. We’ve been slowly conditioned to this for nearly 100 years.

We’ve stopped holding ourselves responsible for our own lives and safety and have been instead taught to blame society for our problems, to look to the government for solutions, for our personal protection, and even sustenance.

Meanwhile, there is a tremendous body of Supreme Court case law which demonstrates reality: The police do not have any duty whatsoever to protect an individual. Indeed, there is a law suit pending right now in disarmed New York where City lawyers are claiming that they do not have a legal obligation to protect a citizen. Not to mention, this foolhardy reliance is based on a response which at best, takes several minutes to “rescue” you.

In places such as NYC or Chicago, your natural right of self defense has even been criminalized. You MUST dial 911 for a government sanctioned application of violence, or defend yourself and risk jail."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32876041

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32876041


Here, right here is a bush understanding of Anglo-Saxon norms. For one, the police are civil servants and as such, are obliged to act for the civil good. Secondly, lawyers are officers of the court and are obliged to act in upholding THE GOOD NAME OF THAT ARM OF THE STATE.....NOT.... protect citizens. The fact that they act in that regard to apply the law effectively in that venue, the presumption is that justice is served.

You people are making a mockery of the great traditions you were gifted. Is it any wonder that Piers is exasperated with you fools
 Quoting: Marxist


The police are to the rulers as the edge is to the knife.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


You are a trouble maker. You clearly have a grudge to bear with the system of ordered government the US inherited and thus attack it with wild and unfounded allegations.

Basically, for all its faults, you have a fairly civilised system of government in the US (contrast it with say Hitlers Germany where slaves were the norm). It is not perfect, but by most measures it is reasonably even handed.

As with all government founded on the principles of the commons, there is some expectation that members of that commons will conduct themselves reasonably. To write off a whole body of civil servants as you do is unreasonable.
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Here, right here is a bush understanding of Anglo-Saxon norms. For one, the police are civil servants and as such, are obliged to act for the civil good. Secondly, lawyers are officers of the court and are obliged to act in upholding THE GOOD NAME OF THAT ARM OF THE STATE.....NOT.... protect citizens. The fact that they act in that regard to apply the law effectively in that venue, the presumption is that justice is served.

You people are making a mockery of the great traditions you were gifted. Is it any wonder that Piers is exasperated with you fools
 Quoting: Marxist


The police are to the rulers as the edge is to the knife.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


You are a trouble maker. You clearly have a grudge to bear with the system of ordered government the US inherited and thus attack it with wild and unfounded allegations.

Basically, for all its faults, you have a fairly civilised system of government in the US (contrast it with say Hitlers Germany where slaves were the norm). It is not perfect, but by most measures it is reasonably even handed.

As with all government founded on the principles of the commons, there is some expectation that members of that commons will conduct themselves reasonably. To write off a whole body of civil servants as you do is unreasonable.
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laugh Well, if that's the case I'm flattered and in good company. I am not in the same league as Bastiat, Thoreau, Mark Twain, Mencken and to many others to name but I'm proud to stand with them.

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Here, right here is a bush understanding of Anglo-Saxon norms. For one, the police are civil servants and as such, are obliged to act for the civil good. Secondly, lawyers are officers of the court and are obliged to act in upholding THE GOOD NAME OF THAT ARM OF THE STATE.....NOT.... protect citizens. The fact that they act in that regard to apply the law effectively in that venue, the presumption is that justice is served.

You people are making a mockery of the great traditions you were gifted. Is it any wonder that Piers is exasperated with you fools
 Quoting: Marxist


The police are to the rulers as the edge is to the knife.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


You are a trouble maker. You clearly have a grudge to bear with the system of ordered government the US inherited and thus attack it with wild and unfounded allegations.

Basically, for all its faults, you have a fairly civilised system of government in the US (contrast it with say Hitlers Germany where slaves were the norm). It is not perfect, but by most measures it is reasonably even handed.

As with all government founded on the principles of the commons, there is some expectation that members of that commons will conduct themselves reasonably. To write off a whole body of civil servants as you do is unreasonable.
 Quoting: Marxist


laugh Well, if that's the case I'm flattered and in good company. I am not in the same league as Bastiat, Thoreau, Mark Twain, Mencken and to many others to name but I'm proud to stand with them.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


Don't kid yourself. There is a vast gulf between analyses borne of Reason and intellectual pygmyism.
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You are a trouble maker. You clearly have a grudge to bear with the system of ordered government the US inherited and thus attack it with wild and unfounded allegations.

Basically, for all its faults, you have a fairly civilised system of government in the US (contrast it with say Hitlers Germany where slaves were the norm). It is not perfect, but by most measures it is reasonably even handed.
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There is not much democracy left in the US today. The presidents are puppets under the same masters. The dollar is completely controlled by a few super rich banksters with no morals whatsoever. The MSM are owned by the very same people.

Thay have worked themselves into power over the decades. Now they are in a position where they basically can do anything. The last thing that stand in the way is an armed population. When the guns have been taken, there will be a totalitarian police state. Governed by coorporations in the hands of a few. Everyone opposing to this inhuman system will be put in camps or executed.

The coming battle will be the last stand of free men.
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You are a trouble maker. You clearly have a grudge to bear with the system of ordered government the US inherited and thus attack it with wild and unfounded allegations.

Basically, for all its faults, you have a fairly civilised system of government in the US (contrast it with say Hitlers Germany where slaves were the norm). It is not perfect, but by most measures it is reasonably even handed.
 Quoting: Marxist


There is not much democracy left in the US today. The presidents are puppets under the same masters. The dollar is completely controlled by a few super rich banksters with no morals whatsoever. The MSM are owned by the very same people.

Thay have worked themselves into power over the decades. Now they are in a position where they basically can do anything. The last thing that stand in the way is an armed population. When the guns have been taken, there will be a totalitarian police state. Governed by coorporations in the hands of a few. Everyone opposing to this inhuman system will be put in camps or executed.

The coming battle will be the last stand of free men.
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Don't talk rubbish. Wealth naturally consolidates in capitaism. However, to suggest that the modernity of capital somehow detracts from its undelying merit based logic (with the usual resort to calls for feudalist alternatives posing as freedom), is the utterly crass stance of the intellectual primitive.

The modernity of capitalism is here to stay. It will be the basis for our next cultural flowering. Fortunately, intellectual primitiveness is on the wane bar a few eggheads.
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The modernity of capitalism is here to stay. It will be the basis for our next cultural flowering. Fortunately, intellectual primitiveness is on the wane bar a few eggheads.
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"Modernity of capitalism"... What does that mean? No laws against monopoly? No laws against politicians beeing bought? No laws against private central banks? No laws against privatized military and police?

Capitalism is wonderful if it operates in a democratic system with rules. Without rules capitalism will lead to a totalitarian state controlled by ruthless coorporations.
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The police are to the rulers as the edge is to the knife.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


You are a trouble maker. You clearly have a grudge to bear with the system of ordered government the US inherited and thus attack it with wild and unfounded allegations.

Basically, for all its faults, you have a fairly civilised system of government in the US (contrast it with say Hitlers Germany where slaves were the norm). It is not perfect, but by most measures it is reasonably even handed.

As with all government founded on the principles of the commons, there is some expectation that members of that commons will conduct themselves reasonably. To write off a whole body of civil servants as you do is unreasonable.
 Quoting: Marxist


laugh Well, if that's the case I'm flattered and in good company. I am not in the same league as Bastiat, Thoreau, Mark Twain, Mencken and to many others to name but I'm proud to stand with them.
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Don't kid yourself. There is a vast gulf between analyses borne of Reason and intellectual pygmyism.
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Ah yes, the real intellectual giants in your psychopathic world are mass murderers and torturers like mao and stalin.

To the perverted those who speak for freedom and individuality are "pygmies".
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Ah yes, the real intellectual giants in your psychopathic world are mass murderers and torturers like mao and stalin.

To the perverted those who speak for freedom and individuality are "pygmies".
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So public servants... what side ye chooseth?
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April 20, 12 – 3pm, Connecticut State Capitol, North side of grounds, in Hartford, CT. This will be a massive CT gun owners rally. Stewart Rhodes will speak there as well.
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Complaint Requesting Injunction Against Town Of Lexington Interfering With Rally On April 19, And Requesting A Writ Of Mandamus To Compel Town To Reinstate Rally Permit.

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Oath Keepers has filed a Court complaint against the Town of Lexington requesting reinstatement of their permit to Rally on Lexington Battle Green. The permit was pulled by the Selectmen of Lexington, ostensibly because of the danger surrounding the Boston Marathon bombing, yet David Codrea, in his article on examiner.com points out the Lexington Patch claimed the permit was pulled at 3:22PM, 2hrs and 38 minutes before the Selectman’s meeting began.

Complaint Requesting Injunction Against Town Of Lexington Interfering With Rally On April 19, And Requesting A Writ Of Mandamus To Compel Town To Reinstate Rally Permit.

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UPDATE:April 20, 12 – 3pm, Connecticut State Capitol, North side of grounds, in Hartford, CT. This will be a massive CT gun owners rally. Stewart Rhodes will speak there as well.

Oath Keepers Founder Stewart Rhodes gave a fiery speech to approximately 3,000 New York gun owners, urging them to refuse to comply to the “SAFE Act,” to refuse to disarm, to nullify at every level.

He also urged them to make sure their county was a “Molon Labe” county, asking them “is your county a ‘come and take it’ county, or is it a‘bend over and take it’ county? Which is it?! Find out now!”

He told them to make sure all the gun owners and veterans in their county are ready to stand up, and will commit to refuse to comply, and then go to the sheriff and the police chief of their town and put them on notice that they are expected to choose sides.

He told the crowd to use April 19, 2013, the upcoming anniversary of the battle of Lexington and Concord, in 1775, as the deadline for their sheriff, police chiefs [and all other oath sworn public servants] to choose sides – “are they patriots, or are they redcoats?”

[link to www.ammoland.com]


The phrase "Molon Labe" means "Come and take". It is a classical expression of defiance reportedly spoken by King Leonidas I in response to the Persian army's demand that the Spartans surrender their weapons at the Battle of Thermopylae.


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chruch leadership works for DHS, look up the progams,
it didn't take the program long, from leadership keeping their churchs in order, to useing you stupid church goers as fallguys for DHS,.

nothing really new there though.
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