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MOLON LABE: Oath Keepers Founder Gives Speech To 3,000 NY Gun Owners; Sets April 19th Deadline For Public Servants To Choose Sides. So It Begins!

 
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What a terrible shame America has to come to this.
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not to me i grew up with a contitution in my home and as i traveled much of life i have alwys taken a copy with me.our contituion means something so dear to us you must not have the same or you would understand
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In what way will the constitution save you when they come for your guns or you?
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Not one inch.

There is no 'compromise.'

Their 'compromise' is really infringement, and their ultimate goal is total confiscation.
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No guns. 100 percent non-violent. Just millions of loving people demanding a better world.
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This is total idiocy. You can't win over everyone and there will always be those who will bow to the money or safety of working with the best gangsters of the age. Peaceful protest doesn't amount to jack shit any more because they know that the protestors don't have any balls behind them.
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Learn from history. A violent revolution is almost always followed by a violent government.

Most dictators fall during the peaceful stage of the revolution. And a violent revolution is bound to fail if the peaceful stage is skipped.

TPTB WANT you to take to arms NOW. If you start massive peaceful protests and show your love for the police and military, then you win. Without the police and military on your side, no one will remember the second american revolution.

The arab uprisings last year toppled omnipotent dictators without much violence. They succeded because they won over the hearts and minds of the military. In Syria they skipped that stage. And are about to be exterminated.

If you call for a violent uprising at this point, I call you a shill.
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You shot down your own argument when you referred to the Arab Spring. Egypt got their Muzzie Bruthers who promptly went full blown dictator. That is to be expected because the whole Arab Spring was a Psyop with the USA and UN pulling the strings.

I agree with most of what you say but you used a shitty example to make your point.

A violent civil uprising is going to happen in the USA. It is inevitable because TPTB are going to keep pushing the massed to the breaking point.
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No guns. 100 percent non-violent. Just millions of loving people demanding a better world.
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This is total idiocy. You can't win over everyone and there will always be those who will bow to the money or safety of working with the best gangsters of the age. Peaceful protest doesn't amount to jack shit any more because they know that the protestors don't have any balls behind them.
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Learn from history. A violent revolution is almost always followed by a violent government.

Most dictators fall during the peaceful stage of the revolution. And a violent revolution is bound to fail if the peaceful stage is skipped.

TPTB WANT you to take to arms NOW. If you start massive peaceful protests and show your love for the police and military, then you win. Without the police and military on your side, no one will remember the second american revolution.

The arab uprisings last year toppled omnipotent dictators without much violence. They succeded because they won over the hearts and minds of the military. In Syria they skipped that stage. And are about to be exterminated.

If you call for a violent uprising at this point, I call you a shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26491065


You shot down your own argument when you referred to the Arab Spring. Egypt got their Muzzie Bruthers who promptly went full blown dictator. That is to be expected because the whole Arab Spring was a Psyop with the USA and UN pulling the strings.

I agree with most of what you say but you used a shitty example to make your point.

A violent civil uprising is going to happen in the USA. It is inevitable because TPTB are going to keep pushing the massed to the breaking point.
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Not entirely. Look at Tunisia. And Egypt's new muslim semi-dictator is the result of all the dumbass peasants in the countryside voting for him. The revolution was led by secular forces who wanted democracy. It is easy to overestimate the power of the Illuminati. They are not always in control (although they work har to make us believe that).

All revolutions have three stages. And they are sequential. If you skip any of the two first stages, the violent uprising is bound to fail.

Before committing to violence you need to get more people, men, women and children on the streets in non violent protests. You need the civilian majority's support fully. You need to win the heart and minds of the police and military.

If you start shooting and blowing up things before that, you will not only stand against an united police and military, but also millions of angry civilians. This is exactly what TPTB want.
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... This is a society preparing for war.

...
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No. A society preparing to defend its rights and freedoms.
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I'm not american I have no vested interest whether or not guns are restricted or outlawed. In fact I probably stay out of this thread as I'm sure some of will tell me in your very eloquent way, but fuck it.

Bollocks, this is the same crap posted online since Waco. Same bluster right wing militant doom mongering. Have you ever thought that if you put as much effort making a rational cogent argument on the topic you may get more support from the middle ground. Have any of you actually made, signed or written a petition and sent it to the people that make the laws. Have any you you thought about using peaceful means to get the message across as oppose to threats of violence. This is the very reason some areas of America would like to see assault weapons band.

A lot of you seem to be ready to trample all over the other amendments and democratic process to protect 2nd amendment while ignoring the rest of them and bring war and death to your streets. You seem to think you and your family would be immune to the violence you seem so hell bent on bring upon yourself. Civil war or unrest is no joke look at North Africa and the Middle East hundreds of thousands dead and hurt.

It seems very hard to find unbiased poll results on the topic of gun control, but you have to try and keep faith in democracy and the process that are there to protect the constitution. You the very people reading this thread need to start, not just sign petitions if you wish to protect your beliefs. There's enough people all ready in this thread to get the ball rolling.

But then again I'm just a shill Limey what do I know.
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I see what your saying but the fact is I don't have to beg or sign anything. The right was given to me by god, not the people who would take them from me. I hope that this doesn't get violent, and that the courts will overturn these laws. These people know what they're doing they don't need me to tell them That it's wrong. If the shit goes down I know what side I am on.
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I just don't want good american people who have abided by law all there lives, paid taxes and upheld their consitution to die.

What these people are suggesting is a resistance against government and again, we need a governement to be entrusted with fixing the citites and helping its residents, but if they refuse, then surely April the 19th will go down in history as the start of civil disobedience in modern times?

If they have FEMA camps, the order to arrest and detain without trial, killing of any American anywhere in the world, drone attacks and nearly 60million hollow point rounds, military drills in cities, do you not think they too are fully prepared for any such resistance?

Maybe if people just went on strike from work, and had a peaceful resistance like Gandhi, it would be more effective, rather than set deadlines for refusing guns, just look at how they went after Dorner, they were intent on burning the place down, and were not interested in arrest.

The governement and military as well as the police are organized, and well experienced in meeting resistance, they have supplies and manpower to work 24 hours a day, whereas the so called militia is a band of men and women who are not.

That is why I do not think it a good idea, they are outnumbered and outskilled, and I am not trying to offend them, I just don't think they have thought it through. They will become fugitives.
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many americans alive today rember the viet nam war. it was all over the television. men blown apart many here lost loved ones.it was not hiden from us the way these wars of late have been. there is more than the youth here and when people get to a certain age you have a different outlook on life. in my family we are 4 genrations alive and well and each one has been taught from the proceding one.we adore our oldest and they gave up lots for us and the rest of us will protect what they gave up for us to be free.
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He told the crowd to use April 19, 2013, the upcoming anniversary of the battle of Lexington and Concord, in 1775, as the deadline for their sheriff, police chiefs [and all other oath sworn public servants] to choose sides – “are they patriots, or are they redcoats?”


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... yep ... it is getting serious ...
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... the Oath Keepers are not just playing ...
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I'm not american I have no vested interest whether or not guns are restricted or outlawed. In fact I probably stay out of this thread as I'm sure some of will tell me in your very eloquent way, but fuck it.

Bollocks, this is the same crap posted online since Waco. Same bluster right wing militant doom mongering. Have you ever thought that if you put as much effort making a rational cogent argument on the topic you may get more support from the middle ground. Have any of you actually made, signed or written a petition and sent it to the people that make the laws. Have any you you thought about using peaceful means to get the message across as oppose to threats of violence. This is the very reason some areas of America would like to see assault weapons band.

A lot of you seem to be ready to trample all over the other amendments and democratic process to protect 2nd amendment while ignoring the rest of them and bring war and death to your streets. You seem to think you and your family would be immune to the violence you seem so hell bent on bring upon yourself. Civil war or unrest is no joke look at North Africa and the Middle East hundreds of thousands dead and hurt.

It seems very hard to find unbiased poll results on the topic of gun control, but you have to try and keep faith in democracy and the process that are there to protect the constitution. You the very people reading this thread need to start, not just sign petitions if you wish to protect your beliefs. There's enough people all ready in this thread to get the ball rolling.

But then again I'm just a shill Limey what do I know.
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I see what your saying but the fact is I don't have to beg or sign anything. The right was given to me by god, not the people who would take them from me. I hope that this doesn't get violent, and that the courts will overturn these laws. These people know what they're doing they don't need me to tell them That it's wrong. If the shit goes down I know what side I am on.
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you said all you needed with "not an american" this is not fucking africa
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Something in my gut doesn't feel right about the "Oath Keepers"

It feels and looks like controlled opposition not unlike the "Occupy"movement.


Great thread op
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What a terrible shame America has to come to this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34563074


The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.


~Thomas Jefferson

That time is very near.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30850836


That is not the way, there are onky 3000 people, there are millions in New York alone, and the army and police far outnumber these people, if they start a militia campaign they will not make it, perhaps they will be the first to die and made an example of, this will not end well.

Surely there must be another way? Do you really think it is worth being imprisoned or worse, dying for?
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good god go clean up your country please your mess is bigger than ours. i hardly think we should be listing to you
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This is just an oath keepers rally, these are people who have sworn oaths because they have been in service or for other reasons, there are way more than 3,000 that stand with them. Also every man in an american uniform that Has died did die for these rights and many others would gladly too. It is crazy that people think that it is extreme that people would take an oath and Actually honor that oath.
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Oath Keepers? Are they a white supremacist organization? Sure sounds like it to me.
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dream on--- I am black and besides, who the hell cares what color we are--- we are all together to protect ourselves from tyranny. In this we are no longer dems, repubs or whatever--- we are patriots
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Thank you for posting these significant "truths":

- it doesn't matter what color we are
- we are all together to protect ourselves from tyranny
- In this we are no longer dems, repubs or whatever--- we are patriots

Let's stop allowing them to control us by dividing us. Stay focussed on the only real truth: we are all Americans and, as Americans, we all must protect and defend that which states we are all free and equal in the eyes of our Creator - the USConstitution!
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These statements MUST be made VIRAL.

Hold on to these simple truths and never ever let go. Because the obedient MSM propaganda apparatus is going to attack you with every degrading word they possess. The Oath Keepers and Constitutionalists will be labelled racists, right wing extremists, nazis, antisemites and so on.
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I just don't want good american people who have abided by law all there lives, paid taxes and upheld their consitution to die.

What these people are suggesting is a resistance against government and again, we need a governement to be entrusted with fixing the citites and helping its residents, but if they refuse, then surely April the 19th will go down in history as the start of civil disobedience in modern times?

If they have FEMA camps, the order to arrest and detain without trial, killing of any American anywhere in the world, drone attacks and nearly 60million hollow point rounds, military drills in cities, do you not think they too are fully prepared for any such resistance?

Maybe if people just went on strike from work, and had a peaceful resistance like Gandhi, it would be more effective, rather than set deadlines for refusing guns, just look at how they went after Dorner, they were intent on burning the place down, and were not interested in arrest.

The governement and military as well as the police are organized, and well experienced in meeting resistance, they have supplies and manpower to work 24 hours a day, whereas the so called militia is a band of men and women who are not.

That is why I do not think it a good idea, they are outnumbered and outskilled, and I am not trying to offend them, I just don't think they have thought it through. They will become fugitives.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34563074


many americans alive today rember the viet nam war. it was all over the television. men blown apart many here lost loved ones.it was not hiden from us the way these wars of late have been. there is more than the youth here and when people get to a certain age you have a different outlook on life. in my family we are 4 genrations alive and well and each one has been taught from the proceding one.we adore our oldest and they gave up lots for us and the rest of us will protect what they gave up for us to be free.
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That is so true. I remember those images of the Viet Nam war on TV, it was part of the 6:00 evening news, before the 24hr fakery.
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I'm not american I have no vested interest whether or not guns are restricted or outlawed. In fact I probably stay out of this thread as I'm sure some of will tell me in your very eloquent way, but fuck it.

Bollocks, this is the same crap posted online since Waco. Same bluster right wing militant doom mongering. Have you ever thought that if you put as much effort making a rational cogent argument on the topic you may get more support from the middle ground. Have any of you actually made, signed or written a petition and sent it to the people that make the laws. Have any you you thought about using peaceful means to get the message across as oppose to threats of violence. This is the very reason some areas of America would like to see assault weapons band.

A lot of you seem to be ready to trample all over the other amendments and democratic process to protect 2nd amendment while ignoring the rest of them and bring war and death to your streets. You seem to think you and your family would be immune to the violence you seem so hell bent on bring upon yourself. Civil war or unrest is no joke look at North Africa and the Middle East hundreds of thousands dead and hurt.

It seems very hard to find unbiased poll results on the topic of gun control, but you have to try and keep faith in democracy and the process that are there to protect the constitution. You the very people reading this thread need to start, not just sign petitions if you wish to protect your beliefs. There's enough people all ready in this thread to get the ball rolling.

But then again I'm just a shill Limey what do I know.
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You're just pisbsflagsed because you pussies gave up your guns without a fight and now can't even own a pocket knife.How about you mind your own shitty countries business.
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...


The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.


~Thomas Jefferson

That time is very near.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30850836


That is not the way, there are onky 3000 people, there are millions in New York alone, and the army and police far outnumber these people, if they start a militia campaign they will not make it, perhaps they will be the first to die and made an example of, this will not end well.

Surely there must be another way? Do you really think it is worth being imprisoned or worse, dying for?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34563074


good god go clean up your country please your mess is bigger than ours. i hardly think we should be listing to you
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Sir, I think that the mess in our country has a lot to do with the drugs trade, who's ultimate destination is your country. The fast and furious guns that were being pumped into this country came from yours and the gang wars that have taken the lives of nearly 100,000 innocent people is also linked to your country.

Prior to the declaration of the war on drugs, there were far fewer deaths and a relatively safer environment, and six years on, the war has not been won, drugs and guns are still available and the people still live in fear of being caught in the crossfire.
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i am against any drug trade with your country or weapons for that matter. but your country has been a mess befor that. your people would come over here in the 70's 80's work for the dollar take it back to your country put it in a mexican bank and your government would confiscate it. so i will agree the dirty bastards in our government have been pushing their agenda ther put i have been to mexico many times and had many friends from and in your country.if you think you do not have overlords of your own making think again
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The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.


~Thomas Jefferson

That time is very near.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30850836


That is not the way, there are onky 3000 people, there are millions in New York alone, and the army and police far outnumber these people, if they start a militia campaign they will not make it, perhaps they will be the first to die and made an example of, this will not end well.

Surely there must be another way? Do you really think it is worth being imprisoned or worse, dying for?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34563074


good god go clean up your country please your mess is bigger than ours. i hardly think we should be listing to you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33639397


This is just an oath keepers rally, these are people who have sworn oaths because they have been in service or for other reasons, there are way more than 3,000 that stand with them. Also every man in an american uniform that Has died did die for these rights and many others would gladly too. It is crazy that people think that it is extreme that people would take an oath and Actually honor that oath.
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I know huh., Isen't that crazy?!?
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And meanwhile as we fight among each other...
The Rothschild's, Rockefellers,Soros, etc just laugh at us, Wait's for the rubble to clear, then continues their world take over. It doesn't matter who wins for them...they are UNTOUCHABLE.

It just pisses me off that these people ALWAYS get away with it.

:Think about It:
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This is exactly what they want... conflict. They have done it for centuries. They feed of this negative energy. Im not saying that we should not prepare, but... be prepared with a gun in hand and shoot with the brain first. Peaceful resolution is the best approach and it goes against their plans.
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What a terrible shame America has to come to this.
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not to me i grew up with a contitution in my home and as i traveled much of life i have alwys taken a copy with me.our contituion means something so dear to us you must not have the same or you would understand
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In what way will the constitution save you when they come for your guns or you?
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save me??? what? the criminals have run amuck here taken lands water rights devoured our hard earned money? i don't want to be saved i want to do the saving agin you can not understand and i wish you well sir it is not you i have an axe to grind with so lets just leave it at that
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WAR
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This is to all of you that want violent action at this stage:


The Oath Keepers have the power and credibility to be a unifying factor. And never forget that there are better options than a horrible civil war. Succesful revolutions are often the least bloody ones. Win the heart and minds of the military and police first. I BEG you.
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And meanwhile as we fight among each other...
The Rothschild's, Rockefellers,Soros, etc just laugh at us, Wait's for the rubble to clear, then continues their world take over. It doesn't matter who wins for them...they are UNTOUCHABLE.

It just pisses me off that these people ALWAYS get away with it.

:Think about It:
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This is exactly what they want... conflict. They have done it for centuries. They feed of this negative energy. Im not saying that we should not prepare, but... be prepared with a gun in hand and shoot with the brain first. Peaceful resolution is the best approach and it goes against their plans.
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Word!
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That is not the way, there are onky 3000 people, there are millions in New York alone, and the army and police far outnumber these people, if they start a militia campaign they will not make it, perhaps they will be the first to die and made an example of, this will not end well.

Surely there must be another way? Do you really think it is worth being imprisoned or worse, dying for?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34563074


good god go clean up your country please your mess is bigger than ours. i hardly think we should be listing to you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33639397


This is just an oath keepers rally, these are people who have sworn oaths because they have been in service or for other reasons, there are way more than 3,000 that stand with them. Also every man in an american uniform that Has died did die for these rights and many others would gladly too. It is crazy that people think that it is extreme that people would take an oath and Actually honor that oath.
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I know huh., Isen't that crazy?!?
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That's overload on logic. I gotta go lay down.
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Yawn. April 19 will come and go, and only a few fruitcake Sheriffs will response, 99% of them will ignore this.

And NOTHING will happen. People just love fear mongering about guns.
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NY Sheriffs began responding within days of the passage of this (heinous) Act. Two neighboring sheriffs declared they WILL NOT ENFORCE in their counties.

My county is as yet undeclared - waiting to see which way the wind blows. Unfortunately, TPTB have decimated the local sheriffs departments over the last two years with layoffs and budget cuts.
Hiring State Police and corrections officers like crazy, does that sound like pre-planning to you?

AND to the guy depending upon his neighbors - I'll tell you the same as I was told by a secret veteran and prepper to those that say "Well there's a farm up the road - we can depend on them." Unless you have weapons, ammo and two years of food and water per person you are not welcome here.
We have BLOOD family and lifelong friends that we've told the same." Get a clue oh, and a gun you damned fool.
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Here is a list of 8 things to look for when trying to identify false flag psychological operations.
1. Staged events usually receive immediate national news coverage
2. There is a political agenda behind the coverage (gun control)
3. The incident inspires intense emotions (Dead kids)
4. Initial media reports conflict eyewitness accounts
5. No dead bodies are shown to the public
6. Celebrities are used to influence the public
7. Presence of mainstream media manipulation tactics
8. The Federal Government give attention to a local story

Question Everything.

When any institution is infiltrated by liberals, that institution no longer serves it's original purpose and instead becomes a social engineering vehicle to push a far left fascist agenda. Liberty and liberals are like oil and water.
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NWO will not allow weapons in the future...
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I just don't want good american people who have abided by law all there lives, paid taxes and upheld their consitution to die.

What these people are suggesting is a resistance against government and again, we need a governement to be entrusted with fixing the citites and helping its residents, but if they refuse, then surely April the 19th will go down in history as the start of civil disobedience in modern times?

If they have FEMA camps, the order to arrest and detain without trial, killing of any American anywhere in the world, drone attacks and nearly 60million hollow point rounds, military drills in cities, do you not think they too are fully prepared for any such resistance?

Maybe if people just went on strike from work, and had a peaceful resistance like Gandhi, it would be more effective, rather than set deadlines for refusing guns, just look at how they went after Dorner, they were intent on burning the place down, and were not interested in arrest.

The governement and military as well as the police are organized, and well experienced in meeting resistance, they have supplies and manpower to work 24 hours a day, whereas the so called militia is a band of men and women who are not.

That is why I do not think it a good idea, they are outnumbered and outskilled, and I am not trying to offend them, I just don't think they have thought it through. They will become fugitives.
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many americans alive today rember the viet nam war. it was all over the television. men blown apart many here lost loved ones.it was not hiden from us the way these wars of late have been. there is more than the youth here and when people get to a certain age you have a different outlook on life. in my family we are 4 genrations alive and well and each one has been taught from the proceding one.we adore our oldest and they gave up lots for us and the rest of us will protect what they gave up for us to be free.
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That is so true. I remember those images of the Viet Nam war on TV, it was part of the 6:00 evening news, before the 24hr fakery.
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In the same light, they sent american sons to fight in afghanistan iraq and what was achieved? Where were the protestors against war and killing then? Why were there not millions in the streets like in nam? Has the face or protest changed since those days?
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Oath Keepers Founder Stewart Rhodes gave a fiery speech to approximately 3,000 New York gun owners, urging them to refuse to comply to the “SAFE Act,” to refuse to disarm, to nullify at every level.

He also urged them to make sure their county was a “Molon Labe” county, asking them “is your county a ‘come and take it’ county, or is it a‘bend over and take it’ county? Which is it?! Find out now!”

He told them to make sure all the gun owners and veterans in their county are ready to stand up, and will commit to refuse to comply, and then go to the sheriff and the police chief of their town and put them on notice that they are expected to choose sides.

He told the crowd to use April 19, 2013, the upcoming anniversary of the battle of Lexington and Concord, in 1775, as the deadline for their sheriff, police chiefs [and all other oath sworn public servants] to choose sides – “are they patriots, or are they redcoats?”

[link to www.ammoland.com]


The phrase "Molon Labe" means "Come and take". It is a classical expression of defiance reportedly spoken by King Leonidas I in response to the Persian army's demand that the Spartans surrender their weapons at the Battle of Thermopylae.


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Finally! It's about damn time. Unconstitutional law after unconstitutional law will only continue to be the status quo until some people with a spine stand up on principle and publically refuse to comply.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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I'm not american I have no vested interest whether or not guns are restricted or outlawed. In fact I probably stay out of this thread as I'm sure some of will tell me in your very eloquent way, but fuck it.

Bollocks, this is the same crap posted online since Waco. Same bluster right wing militant doom mongering. Have you ever thought that if you put as much effort making a rational cogent argument on the topic you may get more support from the middle ground. Have any of you actually made, signed or written a petition and sent it to the people that make the laws. Have any you you thought about using peaceful means to get the message across as oppose to threats of violence. This is the very reason some areas of America would like to see assault weapons band.

A lot of you seem to be ready to trample all over the other amendments and democratic process to protect 2nd amendment while ignoring the rest of them and bring war and death to your streets. You seem to think you and your family would be immune to the violence you seem so hell bent on bring upon yourself. Civil war or unrest is no joke look at North Africa and the Middle East hundreds of thousands dead and hurt.

It seems very hard to find unbiased poll results on the topic of gun control, but you have to try and keep faith in democracy and the process that are there to protect the constitution. You the very people reading this thread need to start, not just sign petitions if you wish to protect your beliefs. There's enough people all ready in this thread to get the ball rolling.

But then again I'm just a shill Limey what do I know.
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You're just pisbsflagsed because you pussies gave up your guns without a fight and now can't even own a pocket knife.How about you mind your own shitty countries business.
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There it is the eloquence I was expecting. Not sure we gave up our guns we never had a gun culture like America. We can still own shotguns and some 22 rifles but hand guns where ban 100% after a Dunblane massacre. I did say I should of stayed out of this tread but I didnt. I can only post from a position of some one from a country where gun violence is practically zero and that is due to the heavy restrictions on fire arms.

I asked another poster in another tread if he was willing to give up any ground may be magazine size, caliber or some types of weapons. He made it clear he wasn't. Would any of you give up one thing to save another or would that be out of the question.

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