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cbfunk
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3/30/2006 7:17 AM
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I thought I'd give it a try here before buying the books - mostly expensive because out of print.
Does anybody know of a link to ebooks or maybe has them ?
I googled already but wasn't successful.
Thank you much
Christa
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DrPostman  
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3/30/2006 1:14 PM
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Try reading this before you spend any
money on his books. This is from a
former supporter who worked closely
with him for many years: [link to abob.libs.uga.edu]
 and always will be
"Even the “pussy cat” icon you proudly display has obvious sexual overtones,
in the since it is mocking the valued emotional need you have been deprived
of, since childhood."
-- Volar, one of Zetatalk's most rabid supporters, makes one of the strangest
statments I have ever read on GLP.
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Everything Tristan
User ID: 74397
 Puerto Rico
3/30/2006 1:25 PM | | Re: Immanuel Velikovsky ebooks ?? | Quote |
Or better yet, read his books and form your own opinion.
Great spirits have always experienced violent opposition from mediocre minds. -A. Einstein
"The woods are lovely, dark and deep.. but I have promises to keep.. and miles to go before I sleep" ~Robert Frost |
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DrPostman
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User ID: 51197
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3/30/2006 4:33 PM
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That's an odd thing for YOU to say,
especially when one looks at this
post:
[link to groups.yahoo.com]
and sees that you are still a
supporter of Nancy's.
Yea, you are a great source of advice.
and always will be
"Even the “pussy cat” icon you proudly display has obvious sexual overtones,
in the since it is mocking the valued emotional need you have been deprived
of, since childhood."
-- Volar, one of Zetatalk's most rabid supporters, makes one of the strangest
statments I have ever read on GLP.
Can't PM? Feel free to email me at DrPostman(at)gmail.com
Have diseased plants? There's an app for that. A friend
of mine has developed Plant Doctor 1.0 Check it out at:
[link to www.plantdoctorapp.com] or get it at iTunes at:
[link to itunes.apple.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 75735
United States
3/30/2006 4:58 PM | | Re: Immanuel Velikovsky ebooks ?? | Quote |
Tristan's right. Find the book and read it.
After all Albert Einstein thought that it was worth rereading. It was found open on his desk, upon his death.
Will you read something that Einstein thught was worth reading more than once, or will you take DrPostman's advice and ignore the information within the pages because he told you to? |
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DrPostman
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User ID: 51197
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3/30/2006 5:55 PM
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Why do you need to lie to support your
claims? It was NOT found on his desk
when he died. And he also thought
Velikovsky was wrong:
---------begin copy letter------------
July 8, 1946
Dr. Immanuel Velikovsky
526 West 113 Str.
New York City
Dear Mr. Velikovsky:
I have read the whole book about the planet Venus.
There is much of interest in the book which proves that
in fact catastrophes have taken place which must be
attributed to extraterrestrial causes. However it is
evident to every sensible physicist that these catast-
rophes can have nothing to do with the planet Venus and
that also the direction of the inclination of the
terrestrial axis towards the ecliptic could not have under-
gone a considerable change without the total destruction
of the earth's entire crust. It were best in my opinion
if you would in this way revise your books, which contain
truly valuable material. If you cannot decide on this,
then what is valuable in your deliberations will become
ineffective, and it would be difficult finding a sensible
publisher who would take the risk of such a heavy setback
upon himself.
I tell you this in writing and return to you your manu-
script, since I will not be free on the considered days.
With friendly greetings, also to your daughter,
Your
Albert Einstein
----------end copy letter--------
Why are you guys so quick to call
critics liars and yet you quickly
resort to lies and lame attempt to
keep people from seeing any critisim?
Why does critisim frighten you guys
so much? Are you so insecure in your
beliefs that you can't stand it?
and always will be
"Even the “pussy cat” icon you proudly display has obvious sexual overtones,
in the since it is mocking the valued emotional need you have been deprived
of, since childhood."
-- Volar, one of Zetatalk's most rabid supporters, makes one of the strangest
statments I have ever read on GLP.
Can't PM? Feel free to email me at DrPostman(at)gmail.com
Have diseased plants? There's an app for that. A friend
of mine has developed Plant Doctor 1.0 Check it out at:
[link to www.plantdoctorapp.com] or get it at iTunes at:
[link to itunes.apple.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 41594
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3/30/2006 6:23 PM | | Re: Immanuel Velikovsky ebooks ?? | Quote |
Start with "Earth in Upheavel" and not with his first book "Worlds in Collision". It's more down to Earth and a great collection of worldwide discoveries.
Sorry, I haven't any online resource for the books. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 75735
United States
3/30/2006 6:33 PM | | Re: Immanuel Velikovsky ebooks ?? | Quote |
The book was found open on his desk at the time of his death. refute this statement with facts not your opinions.
The quote by DrPostman was early as can be construed by it's contents.
Velikovsky was wrong about Venus, but not about the periodic catastrophies.
The famous quote by Einstein concerning those who ridicule what they have not read or do not understand is concerning Velikovsky's work.
I recommend taking Einstein's advice and reading the book, and not just dismissing it because certain people tell you to. |
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DrPostman
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3/30/2006 6:44 PM
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"The book was found open on his desk at the time of his death. refute this statement with facts not your opinions."
You are the one making the claim. YOU
back it up. Everything I read says that
he had a letter to Israel and work on
his unified theory that he was so obsessed
with.
"The quote by DrPostman was early as can be construed by it's contents.
Velikovsky was wrong about Venus, but not about the periodic catastrophies."
You missed that bit about
"the direction of the inclination of the
terrestrial axis towards the ecliptic
could not have undergone a considerable
change without the total destruction
of the earth's entire crust." didn't
you? Do you understand what he meant
by that?
"The famous quote by Einstein concerning those who ridicule what they have not read or do not understand is concerning Velikovsky's work."
This quote:
"There are only two things that are
infinite, human stupidity and the
universe, and I'm not sure about the
former."
"I recommend taking Einstein's advice and reading the book, and not just dismissing it because certain people tell you to."
I offered a web site that explained how
Velikovsky is wrong and you got defensive
over that. What are you afraid of? I
didn't tell him NOT to buy the books,
only to check out that web site before
any investment is made. You guys sure
are insecure when it comes to Velikovsky.
I can understand. Even though it is
50 year old outdated science it's all
you got to support some of your claims.
Criticism frightens you so much you have
to jump in and attack anyone who dares
to question.
Oh well, I ain't leaving so get used to
it.
and always will be
"Even the “pussy cat” icon you proudly display has obvious sexual overtones,
in the since it is mocking the valued emotional need you have been deprived
of, since childhood."
-- Volar, one of Zetatalk's most rabid supporters, makes one of the strangest
statments I have ever read on GLP.
Can't PM? Feel free to email me at DrPostman(at)gmail.com
Have diseased plants? There's an app for that. A friend
of mine has developed Plant Doctor 1.0 Check it out at:
[link to www.plantdoctorapp.com] or get it at iTunes at:
[link to itunes.apple.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 185
United States
3/30/2006 6:52 PM | | Re: Immanuel Velikovsky ebooks ?? | Quote |
Immanuel Velikovsky's books -- all of them -- are absolutely WONDERFUL and packed full of more information that you'll be able to absorb in 1 reading, for sure. You'll want to read his books with Bulfinch's Mythology close at hand as well as information about Babylon, Ur, and ancient Middle East religions of the Hebrews, Hittites, and Canaanites -- as well as Greeks, Romans, and Phoenicians.
Astounding information, really.
You won't regret your academic time spent. |
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1+1=2
User ID: 75829
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3/30/2006 9:25 PM | | Re: Immanuel Velikovsky ebooks ?? | Quote |
I see the debunker shills were awful shrill on this thread ... I highly recommend anybody who can still think for themselves to read his books and form their own opinions with or without permission from the self-proclaimed experts |
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Askakido
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3/30/2006 9:36 PM
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I do like Einstein's quote, "It were best in my opinion if you would in this way revise your books, which contain
truly valuable material. "
I shows that Eistein did not think Velikovsky to be a total quake.
I am surprised the Einstein's take on the results of a gravitional and electromagnetic coupling between Earth and Venus could not tilt the axis of the Earth without massive crustal destruction. Einstein should have known better or would have it he had taken the electromagnetic braking effects and the dampening effects of such magnetic field couplings into account.
But even Einstein did not think Velikovsky to be a crank nor a fraud nor a poor scientist.
When speaking of planetary astrophysics both Einstein and Velikovsky were out of their fields of discpline.
Read Velikovsky before you read any opinions on Velikovsky that way you can get an un prejudiced taken on him. Then read other's pro and con opinions.
Needless to say I find Velikovshy fascinating in that he is one of very few physciatrists that take the field of myth and legends somewhat seriously.
In many ways his 1950 writings started off a whole branch of new age thought as well as caused science to kill some of its scared holy cows, which the space probes have forced them to kill even more of.
And I am not fully convinced that Velikovsky was all that wrong about Venus and Mars either. If you were to do the necessary celestial mechanics involved you would discover they times of close approach to the Earth would have spanned only DAYS. Its like zooming Venus up to the size of a 10" dinner plate held at arms lenght in the sky and zoom back to its current size, allin the course of three days to a week. Far faster than any comet we have seen. I find it strange that there are so very few Sci-Fi movies that move planets around.
One test is if we discover that the surface temperature has fallen off since Magellan visited it.. if we find a measured decrease in the Venusian surface tempatures since the visit of the first probes on to the Mercury probe missions flyby, then the "greenhouse" theory of Venus heat would be disproved... and Velikovsky's "theory" would have even another feather in its cap.
I too would like to see a eBook of all his books available.
And Dr. Postman, thank you for the link. |
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Anonymous Coward
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3/30/2006 9:45 PM | | Re: Immanuel Velikovsky ebooks ?? | Quote |
Anonymous Coward
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2/25/2006 6:03 AM
Report abusive post Immanuel Velikovsky
Can anyone please help by informing me where I could obtain the following books in pdf format? I think some true scientific writing on the troubled times ahead may shed more light on the subject.
All help in this regard will be much appreciated!
Books by Velikovsky
Immanuel Velikovsky – Worlds in Collision (1950)
Immanuel Velikovsky – Ages in Chaos (1952)
Immanuel Velikovsky – Earth in Upheaval (1955)
Immanuel Velikovsky – Oedipus and Akhnaton (1960)
Immanuel Velikovsky – Ramses II and His Time (1978)
Immanuel Velikovsky – Peoples of the Sea (1977)
Immanuel Velikovsky – Stargazers and Gravediggers: Memoirs to Worlds in Collision (1983)
Books on Velikovsky
Alfred De Grazia – The Velikovsky Affair: The Warfare of Science and Scientism (1966)
Donald Goldsmith – Science Confronts Velikovsky (1977)
tommy777
User ID: 16622
2/25/2006 6:12 AM
Re: Immanuel Velikovsky
Here you will find all on Velikovsy:
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 76548
2/25/2006 6:15 AM Re: Immanuel Velikovsky
Thank you Tommy777!
GREY LENSMAN
User ID: 76861
2/25/2006 6:18 AM Re: Immanuel Velikovsky
I SECOND THAT, NEED TO CHECK THE LINKS.
HE WILL GET HIS NOBEL PRIZE/
GL
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 66192
2/25/2006 6:18 AM Re: Immanuel Velikovsky
What's Oedipus and Akhnaton about? What's any of this about? Is the collision a metaphor?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 185
2/25/2006 6:19 AM Re: Immanuel Velikovsky
If you read and understand Velikovsky it will absolutely open your eyes to what is going on... not only now.... but what was and will be.
Ages in Chaos and Worlds in Collision are the two, IMHO, best books.
Absolutely revolutionary!
GREY LENSMAN
User ID: 76861
2/25/2006 6:33 AM Re: Immanuel Velikovsky
MISSING BOOKS NOT THERE. LOVE THE DEBUNKERS, NOT A SINGLE SENSIBLE SCIETIFIC OR RESEARCHED COMMENT.
VELIKOVSKYS PAPER ON THE GREEK DARK AGE, DEMOLISHES THAT ENTIRELY. THE WARPED TIME FRAME, DOUBLE COUNTING IS AS CLEAR AS THE RE-EMERGENCE OF THE ELISABETHAN AGE IN THE UK. NOT POSSIBLE OR PALUSIBLE.
HE HAS NOT SUCCEEDE IN PUTTING ALL THE BITS IN PLACE BUT ABOUT 90%.
THERA IS A KEY EVENT, DATING OF THAT GETTING BETTER. HE ALOS WAS UNAWARE OF THE OERA LINDA BOOK.
I REMEBER WELL BEING TAUGHT ABOUT THE HURRIANS, WHICH AS VELIKOVSKY SHOWS NEVER EXISTED. HISTORY SEEMS TO AGREE, DROPPING THEM FROM EXISTANCE NOW, SILENTLY.
KEY TO ALL MOSES CRAP IS THAT PHAROAH DIED. DEAD PHAROAHAND DYNASTIES DID NOT LEAVE RECORDS SO IT ANNOYS ME ALL THE BULL ABOUT RAMSES, AND USING THE FUTILE ATTEMPTS TO LINK MOSES TO HIM, TO DISCREDIT THE BIBLE.
MIXING RELIGEON AND HISTORY IS EMOTIVE STUFF, JST SEE WHAT THEY DID TO VELIKOVSKY, BUT THIS AGENDDA IS FAR DEEPER.
I ALWAYS ASK MYSELF WHY MY EUROPEAN HISTORY IS TIED TO THAT OF EGYPT.
NOTE ALSO RECENT MAINSTREAM DISCUSSION OF THE DEATH OF KING TUT, ANALYSING JUST HIS SKILL, THEY SAY OPENLY, CAUCASIAN.
WHY THE ATTEMPTS TO ATTACH MONTHEISM TO AKHENATON. HE CLEARLY GOT IT FROM HIS FOREBARES CONTACTS WITH SOLOMON.
GL
Halcyon Dayz
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2/25/2006 7:16 AM Re: Immanuel Velikovsky
There's no need to yell here.
DrPostman
User ID: 51197
2/25/2006 7:17 AM
Re: Immanuel Velikovsky
Why not open your mind to the possibility
that Velikovsky was wrong by looking at
what a former supporter of his for 30
years has to say about him: [link]
GL is capslock challenged.
AnticAPSLOCK.com can help him: [link]
and always will be
- 2212 -
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2/25/2006 7:23 AM
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Anonymous Coward
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3/30/2006 9:46 PM | | Re: Immanuel Velikovsky ebooks ?? | Quote |
hmm links didn't work. |
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Anonymous Coward
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3/30/2006 9:50 PM | |
Askakido
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3/30/2006 9:51 PM
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<want to read his books with Bulfinch's Mythology close at hand as well as information about Babylon, Ur, and ancient Middle East religions of the Hebrews, Hittites, and Canaanites -- as well as Greeks, Romans, and Phoenicians.>
An important point when reading Velikovsky, it is good to have the mythos stuff at hand. And then to update is as you can based on newer understandings of archeology and anthropology.
At the heart of Velikovsky is the idead of a "collective amnesia" and what may have caused that. He was a Psychologist after all. |
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Anonymous Coward
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8/31/2007 8:40 PM | | Re: Immanuel Velikovsky ebooks ?? | Quote |
Try reading this before you spend any
money on his books. This is from a
former supporter who worked closely
with him for many years: [ link to abob.libs.uga.edu]
and always will be
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uh....
YOU might try reading some of IVs books before inferring to others that his works are not worth looking into. Have you?
Some of IVs 'denouncers' would use psuedo-science arguments, innuendo and lies to TRY prove his work was invalid.
Einstein-they were friends-before he died, was able to come to see the validity of IV's work-and approved.
You dont argue with Albert Einstein.
Just a few of his 'heretic' theories of IV that came to be fact:
Venus's temp is 600df, with a hydrocarbon atmosphere.
(Scientists then thought Venus would be about Earths temperature, and had an Ammonia atmosphere.)
That Venus had a retrograde orbit-probably from collision with a comet or planet-(Mars was a suspect)( None of them had a clue, until Mariner probe missions started sending back data)
The Sun puts out 10 to the 19 power of electrical energy*
The Earths magnetic poles had moved or reversed in he past.
Tha the Earth is protected from the Suns radiations by a very large Magnetoshpere, which IV plotted to reaching halfway to our moon.
(conventional logic back then was a few hundred miles)
That radio waves would be discovered coming from Jupiter.
(Back then Jupiter was thought to be "too cold" to put out radio waves)
just a few of the things he was able to forsee before they became "accepted"
I could run off pages.
The very people calling IV a charlatian were in fact charlatians themselves:
which brings to mind the 'letters' behind many of their names:
BullShit, More BullShit, Piled Higher and Deeper
-BS, MBS, PhD.
Many of these so-called "scientists" around the country grouped together and threatened Macmillian Publishing-which first put out WORLDS IN COLLISION- with a full textbook boycott (the bulk of their publishing work was College Textbooks)
After release, it became a NYT bestseller;
Scientific method?-if you lived in 1950s Communist Russia.
Afraid of losing these juvenile whiner scientists book orders, Macmillian handed IVs works off to Doubleday-which again, became best sellers.
A few continued to try to stop his published works period, but failed.
It would have been easier for them to just to hire a Mafia hit-man to "dissappear" him, for all the screams and whines of outrage from them.
NONE of these idiots tried to use the scientific method of peer validation-they would just announce "That sounds impossible!" and tried their best to smear him.
Some never even read his work, just "heard" that his work was invalid-and would still denounce him it as if they had proven otherwise, themselves.
*Donald Menzel, Ass-tronomer, made fun of IVs Suns electrical theory,
stating-"The amount of electrical energy the Sun puts our would power one flashlight of 5 minutes"(!)
He was one of the shrillest IV detractors.
It was later found in papers he put out that his computations "proving" IVs theories as wrong, were riddled with mistakes, and rather than be a man and own up to them, he would redo his work-with the aid of sympathetic Journals and pretend all was good.
And then again pronounce IVs works as "wrong" ( likely with more tainted data)
Some Science, huh?
But dont listen to me-read up on his works- a good place to start would be THE VELIKOVSKY AFFAIR, in which many of IVs discoveries the backstory of his detractors, and the big hullabaloo are chronicaled. |
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Mad Hatter
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8/31/2007 8:47 PM | | Re: Immanuel Velikovsky ebooks ?? | Quote |
I prefer Zecharia Sitchin myself, sorry no e-books. |
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Mad Hatter
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8/31/2007 9:04 PM | | Re: Immanuel Velikovsky ebooks ?? | Quote |
"The time has come," the Walrus said,
"To talk of many things:
Of shoes--and ships--and sealing-wax--
Of cabbages--and kings--
And why the sea is boiling hot--
And whether pigs have wings." |
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Anonymous Coward
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8/31/2007 9:28 PM | | Re: Immanuel Velikovsky ebooks ?? | Quote |
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Normal Is Subjective
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8/31/2007 9:58 PM
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Einstein-Velikovsky correspondence: [link to www.varchive.org]
The Velikovsky Affair:
THE VELIKOVSKY AFFAIR
SCIENTISM VERSUS SCIENCE
by Ralph E. Juergens
MINDS IN CHAOS
Seventeen years ago the appearance of Immanuel Velikovsky's Worlds in Collision precipitated an academic storm. Prominent American scientists, roused to indignation even before the book was published, greeted it with a remarkable demonstration of ill will that included a partially successful attempt to suppress the work by imposing a boycott on its first publisher's textbooks. The reading public witnessed the unique spectacle of a scientific debate staged not in the semi-privacy of scientific meetings and journals, but in the popular press, with scientists - in rare accord - on one side and lay champions of free speech on the other. With the might of authority all on one side of the issue, the debate was resolved in a predictable manner; Velikovsky and his book were discredited in the public eye.
From the start there was more to the controversy than the simple question of a dissenting scholar's right to be published and read; the atmosphere generated by scientific consternation was charged with a peculiar emotion that Newsweek termed 'a highly unacademic fury. ' Even if Velikovsky's books were, as one astronomer put it, the 'most amazing example of a shattering of accepted concepts on record, ' the violence of the reaction against it seemed all out of proportion to the book's importance if, as most critics insisted, the work was spurious and entirely devoid of merit. Many nonscientist observers concluded that Velikovsky's work was not run-of-the-mill heresy, but a thesis that presented a genuine threat to the very ego of science. It seemed that Worlds in Collision was being attacked with a fervor 'reserved only for books that lay bare new fundamentals. ' Caught up in this fervor, more than one scientist-reviewer of Velikovsky's book adopted tactics even more surprising than the overt and covert deeds of the would-be suppressors. [link to www.grazian-archive.com]
I thought I'd beat the inevitibility of death to death just a little bit. |
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Anonymous Coward
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8/31/2007 10:07 PM | | Re: Immanuel Velikovsky ebooks ?? | Quote |
I read where Albert had a shiload of Mickey Spillane novels on his desk because he spoke of being 'across town in nothing flat'. Go figure that. |
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***ZetaMax***
Getting The Truth Out
User ID: 266466
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9/1/2007 7:23 AM
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Why do you need to lie to support your
claims? It was NOT found on his desk
when he died. And he also thought
Velikovsky was wrong:
---------begin copy letter------------
July 8, 1946
Dr. Immanuel Velikovsky
526 West 113 Str.
New York City
Dear Mr. Velikovsky:
I have read the whole book about the planet Venus.
There is much of interest in the book which proves that
in fact catastrophes have taken place which must be
attributed to extraterrestrial causes. However it is
evident to every sensible physicist that these catast-
rophes can have nothing to do with the planet Venus and
that also the direction of the inclination of the
terrestrial axis towards the ecliptic could not have under-
gone a considerable change without the total destruction
of the earth's entire crust. It were best in my opinion
if you would in this way revise your books, which contain
truly valuable material. If you cannot decide on this,
then what is valuable in your deliberations will become
ineffective, and it would be difficult finding a sensible
publisher who would take the risk of such a heavy setback
upon himself.
I tell you this in writing and return to you your manu-
script, since I will not be free on the considered days.
With friendly greetings, also to your daughter,
Your
Albert Einstein
----------end copy letter--------
Why are you guys so quick to call
critics liars and yet you quickly
resort to lies and lame attempt to
keep people from seeing any critisim?
Why does critisim frighten you guys
so much? Are you so insecure in your
beliefs that you can't stand it?
and always will be
There is much of interest in the book which proves that
in fact catastrophes have taken place which must be
attributed to extraterrestrial causes.
Powerful words DrPost
A simple question for you. Do you agree them? Yes or No?
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.
ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
ZetaMax |
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***ZetaMax***
Getting The Truth Out
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9/1/2007 7:25 AM
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I prefer Zecharia Sitchin myself, sorry no e-books. Quoting: Mad Hatter 249344
Why in the world does one "need a preference"???
READ THEM ALL!!!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.
ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
ZetaMax |
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RobertFritzius
User ID: 341023
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12/16/2007 4:19 PM | | Re: Immanuel Velikovsky ebooks ?? | Quote |
Why do you need to lie to support your
claims? It was NOT found on his desk
when he died. And he also thought
Velikovsky was wrong:
---------begin copy letter------------
July 8, 1946
Dr. Immanuel Velikovsky
526 West 113 Str.
New York City
Dear Mr. Velikovsky:
I have read the whole book about the planet Venus.
There is much of interest in the book which proves that
in fact catastrophes have taken place which must be
attributed to extraterrestrial causes. However it is
evident to every sensible physicist that these catast-
rophes can have nothing to do with the planet Venus and
that also the direction of the inclination of the
terrestrial axis towards the ecliptic could not have under-
gone a considerable change without the total destruction
of the earth's entire crust. It were best in my opinion
if you would in this way revise your books, which contain
truly valuable material. If you cannot decide on this,
then what is valuable in your deliberations will become
ineffective, and it would be difficult finding a sensible
publisher who would take the risk of such a heavy setback
upon himself.
I tell you this in writing and return to you your manu-
script, since I will not be free on the considered days.
With friendly greetings, also to your daughter,
Your
Albert Einstein
----------end copy letter--------
Why are you guys so quick to call
critics liars and yet you quickly
resort to lies and lame attempt to
keep people from seeing any critisim?
Why does critisim frighten you guys
so much? Are you so insecure in your
beliefs that you can't stand it?
and always will be
The 1946 letter you copied here was Einstein's first response (of many) to Velikovsky. It does not represent his later warming to the topic. |
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meras
User ID: 340515
 United Kingdom
12/16/2007 4:37 PM | | Re: Immanuel Velikovsky ebooks ?? | Quote |
Immanuel Velikovsky illuminated the catastrophic view of geological change which at the time was considered heresy but is now being gradually accepted.
Subsequent to his work stone circles in the British Isles and Ireland dated 3000BC have been shown to work as Venus observatories so the dating with regards to Venus was incorrect. |
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Anonymous Coward
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12/16/2007 4:44 PM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 248638
United States
12/16/2007 4:58 PM | | Re: Immanuel Velikovsky ebooks ?? | Quote |
"Earth in Upheaval" is a great book. All kinds of evidence to throw in the face of debunkers to watch them squirm. Dr. Postboy is one of those people who would prefer to not buy the book. I wonder why. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 248638
United States
12/16/2007 4:59 PM | | Re: Immanuel Velikovsky ebooks ?? | Quote |
"Earth in Upheaval" is a great book. All kinds of evidence to throw in the face of debunkers to watch them squirm. Dr. Postboy is one of those people who would prefer to not buy the book. I wonder why. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 248638
Meant to say Postboy would prefer YOU not buy the book. Please just believe what the schools teach you and NO QUESTIONING OF FACTS ALLOWED. |
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Anonymous Coward
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 Netherlands
12/16/2007 5:44 PM | | Re: Immanuel Velikovsky ebooks ?? | Quote |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 338821
United States
12/16/2007 6:18 PM | | Re: Immanuel Velikovsky ebooks ?? | Quote |
Believe it or not, my local library has some of his stuff. Try yours, you might get lucky. |
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