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Petyermouse (OP) User ID: 33832088 United States 02/16/2013 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many years do you use a milking cow? Quoting: stillhere Do you send them to slaughter then? What do you do with the calves? How long are they allowed to be with their mother. Do you artificially inseminate your herd? What do you do when the power goes out? How many days of food do you keep on hand? How long could you survive without power? How much land do you own? Is your land mortgaged? Do you own a shotgun or weapon to protect what you own? Do you have a garden in the summer? Do you have kids and do they want to farm the land when they are adults? Do you have well water, how often do you have it tested? 1. Depends on the cow. A good cow will go 4-6 years 2. Yes when they can't produce as much as it costs to feed them, we ship them for beef or sell them to another farm 3. A couple days 4. We do both artificial and natural insemination on our operation 5. We have a massive generator on our farm. During the summer thunderstorms if we lose power, we just hook a tractor up to that bitch and we are back in business. 6. I currently have no back up food right now. My lazy logic says I have 1500 cows and some chickens so I don't feel the rush to store food. Although I'm going to start storing more soon. 7. See answer #5 8. I personally own 28 acres, my family owns about 800, we rent another 400 9. My personal land is, I don't think the rest is 10. We have a lot of guns, but there's not really a need to protect anything at this point. 11. I tried to do a garden last year, but I just didn't have the time. I'll stick to macro farming, micro isn't really my thing 12. I don't have kids, but my brothers do, and they love the farm and at this young age say they want to be farmers too. Who knows if that will change in the future. Holly shit!!! you answered all of those... If you were a registered user I'd give you karma for that! BTW... Tell those kids that the farmers of today will be the rockstars of the future. Minus the OD's of course. No matter what happens to the worlds finances, food is becoming more important every day. I'm logged in now, so go ahead and give me karma. Not sure how that works though. Petyermouse |
Petyermouse (OP) User ID: 33832088 United States 02/16/2013 10:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We homogenize it but that's it. After we ship it out, it's up to our co-op to decide where it goes. Sometimes it goes to Green Bay to be turned into butter. Sometimes to Pennsylvania to be turned into Hershey's products, sometimes it goes to Indiana to be sold via gallons of milk, etc Petyermouse |
Desert Fox User ID: 8786935 United States 02/16/2013 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What brand of milkers do you use. In the seventies I was an executive with the Surge dairy farm equipment co. Babson Bros. At that time farmers were milking twice a day. What is the average daily pound output per cow now. Quoting: Desert Fox Germania is our milking parlor and De Laval is our components. They are made in Israel and I actually got to take a trip there to see how they were made. It was a great time. Thanks for your response. We were king in the 70s. How many pounds per day per cow average now days? :TOMABANEFOX: It's more humane this way ya know, or burn on totem pole. Choice is yours. |
Petyermouse (OP) User ID: 33832088 United States 02/16/2013 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What brand of milkers do you use. In the seventies I was an executive with the Surge dairy farm equipment co. Babson Bros. At that time farmers were milking twice a day. What is the average daily pound output per cow now. Quoting: Desert Fox Germania is our milking parlor and De Laval is our components. They are made in Israel and I actually got to take a trip there to see how they were made. It was a great time. Thanks for your response. We were king in the 70s. How many pounds per day per cow average now days? Sorry, I forgot to answer that one. Our herd average is about 80 pounds/cow/day. Petyermouse |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4386039 United States 02/16/2013 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you use BGH (Bovine Growth Hormone aka Crack for Cows)? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4386039 Do you know the effects of BGH? No we don't. I've honestly never heard of that. Are you referring to BST? No, I'm pretty sure its BGH. Scientists at Monsanto spliced E-Coli bacteria and cow dna to make a inject-able substance that causes the metabolism of the cow to be much faster, thus produce more milk. |
Desert Fox User ID: 8786935 United States 02/16/2013 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What brand of milkers do you use. In the seventies I was an executive with the Surge dairy farm equipment co. Babson Bros. At that time farmers were milking twice a day. What is the average daily pound output per cow now. Quoting: Desert Fox Germania is our milking parlor and De Laval is our components. They are made in Israel and I actually got to take a trip there to see how they were made. It was a great time. Thanks for your response. We were king in the 70s. How many pounds per day per cow average now days? Sorry, I forgot to answer that one. Our herd average is about 80 pounds/cow/day. WOW, that has gone way up. :TOMABANEFOX: It's more humane this way ya know, or burn on totem pole. Choice is yours. |
Petyermouse (OP) User ID: 33832088 United States 02/16/2013 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you use BGH (Bovine Growth Hormone aka Crack for Cows)? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4386039 Do you know the effects of BGH? No we don't. I've honestly never heard of that. Are you referring to BST? No, I'm pretty sure its BGH. Scientists at Monsanto spliced E-Coli bacteria and cow dna to make a inject-able substance that causes the metabolism of the cow to be much faster, thus produce more milk. Wow, I've never heard of that. Petyermouse |
Petyermouse (OP) User ID: 33832088 United States 02/16/2013 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Petyermouse Germania is our milking parlor and De Laval is our components. They are made in Israel and I actually got to take a trip there to see how they were made. It was a great time. Thanks for your response. We were king in the 70s. How many pounds per day per cow average now days? Sorry, I forgot to answer that one. Our herd average is about 80 pounds/cow/day. WOW, that has gone way up. We have a great herdsman and a really good nutritionist, plus we grow our own crops so we have control on the quality of feed. What was the average back in the 70's? Have you been to a bigger farm recently? The technological advancements are unreal. Petyermouse |
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stillhere User ID: 29204297 United States 02/16/2013 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you married--you said no kids. Are you happy with farming? Do you keep any milk for your own use--like raw milk or milk to make your own butter or do you buy your own milk back after it's processed? Do you want kids? Do you have plans to change your operations or stay pretty much the same? How old are you? Planting season--hay and straw for your cows? Do you have any other animals Dogs, cats, goats, chickens? Do you save some cattle for your own use (to eat)? Are your families farms all connected or close? Your relatives kids--home schooled or public school? I've heard the farmers life is very hard, how many hours do you work a week? Do you barter with neighbors? Like mild for chicken eggs? Thanks so much!! "You can bend it and twist it... You can misuse and abuse it... But even God cannot change the Truth.” Michael Levy |
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Desert Fox User ID: 8786935 United States 02/16/2013 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Desert Fox Thanks for your response. We were king in the 70s. How many pounds per day per cow average now days? Sorry, I forgot to answer that one. Our herd average is about 80 pounds/cow/day. WOW, that has gone way up. We have a great herdsman and a really good nutritionist, plus we grow our own crops so we have control on the quality of feed. What was the average back in the 70's? Have you been to a bigger farm recently? The technological advancements are unreal. 55 to 60 lbs. No I haven't but have watched a show on TV of a modern dairy farm, and was amazed at the changes. We, SURGE, were ahead of everyone back then. De laval was copying our tech. I loved the business. I grew up on a dirt farm so I just fell in love with the smell of a dairy farm. Pigs, nope. :TOMABANEFOX: It's more humane this way ya know, or burn on totem pole. Choice is yours. |
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Petyermouse (OP) User ID: 33832088 United States 02/16/2013 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for your response. Quoting: stillhere Are you married--you said no kids. Are you happy with farming? Do you keep any milk for your own use--like raw milk or milk to make your own butter or do you buy your own milk back after it's processed? Do you want kids? Do you have plans to change your operations or stay pretty much the same? How old are you? Planting season--hay and straw for your cows? Do you have any other animals Dogs, cats, goats, chickens? Do you save some cattle for your own use (to eat)? Are your families farms all connected or close? Your relatives kids--home schooled or public school? I've heard the farmers life is very hard, how many hours do you work a week? Do you barter with neighbors? Like mild for chicken eggs? Thanks so much!! 1. Not married, have a girlfriend though. 2. I love farming. I'm outside everyday, I get to keep in shape without going to the gym (I actually get paid to do it, it's hard work but very fulfilling, and I'm proud to continue the work my dad, and his dad, and his dad's dad started. 3. I'll get a jug of milk for cereal and occasionally just to drink, but I'm not a HUGE fan of milk. I don't buy it in the store, but I do buy butter. I don't turn our milk into cheese or butter myself. 4. I do want kids 5. I'm 29 6. About 400 acres of alfalfa and 800 acres of corn 7. I have an awesome golden retriever named Zeus 8. I don't, but my brother raises steers and sells beef. I buy some from him and it's literally the best meat I've ever had. 9. My family owns 1 farm. 2 of my 3 brothers work on it with me. 10. Public 11. It is very hard. My hours per week vary greatly. During the winter (currently) I'm at 40 hours a week, but during spring and summer I average between 50-60, and during harvest it can get over 70 hours a week. Of course, it varies due to weather/mechanical problems. 12. No we don't barter. Not really a need.a Petyermouse |
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Petyermouse (OP) User ID: 33832088 United States 02/16/2013 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Petyermouse Sorry, I forgot to answer that one. Our herd average is about 80 pounds/cow/day. WOW, that has gone way up. We have a great herdsman and a really good nutritionist, plus we grow our own crops so we have control on the quality of feed. What was the average back in the 70's? Have you been to a bigger farm recently? The technological advancements are unreal. 55 to 60 lbs. No I haven't but have watched a show on TV of a modern dairy farm, and was amazed at the changes. We, SURGE, were ahead of everyone back then. De laval was copying our tech. I loved the business. I grew up on a dirt farm so I just fell in love with the smell of a dairy farm. Pigs, nope. We actually had a few different production companies come to our farm with interest in doing a reality show and a mini documentary, but it didn't pan out. Probably for the better. People turn into huge douche bags when they are on TV, I might not have been any different. Petyermouse |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28355153 United States 02/16/2013 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rbh referred to above is rbst. Uts use is extremely low Now. It is safe for cow and people but all but gone these days. Cows on modern farms are very Well cared for . Tech is getting used at a very high rate it would amaze you but it still reuires extremely long hours. I left t'he farm last summer. 80 hours per week is normal. Now i Sell supplies to dairy farners someres as large as 11000 milking cows and they are all family owned and operated with extremely good care to t'he animals producing a safe high quality product . [youtube] |
Petyermouse (OP) User ID: 33832088 United States 02/16/2013 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rbh referred to above is rbst. Uts use is extremely low Now. It is safe for cow and people but all but gone these days. Cows on modern farms are very Well cared for . Tech is getting used at a very high rate it would amaze you but it still reuires extremely long hours. I left t'he farm last summer. 80 hours per week is normal. Now i Sell supplies to dairy farners someres as large as 11000 milking cows and they are all family owned and operated with extremely good care to t'he animals producing a safe high quality product . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28355153 [youtube] You're right. Farming isn't as bad as what people make it out to be. Everyone would be amazed at the hoops you have to jump through to make sure all the agencies are happy. Petyermouse |
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stillhere User ID: 29204297 United States 02/16/2013 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... I couldn't agree more, my husband always calls them "unreality shows", it gets sad to see what people will do for money. Thank you again for answering all my tedious questions, but really is great to get to know you a bit--glad you enjoy your work, I believe our society is worse for wear because so many don't have a deep family grounding like farmers on land that has been in the family for many generations. "You can bend it and twist it... You can misuse and abuse it... But even God cannot change the Truth.” Michael Levy |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34471515 Canada 02/16/2013 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What are hay prices like in your area this year? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34471515 We are paying up to $80 for a 800 lb 4x5 round, last year more like $25. We grow our own so I couldn't tell you. I did hear from other people that it's pretty outrageous though. what was the hay yield like in your area last year? We were about 60% of normal here in central ontario. |
Petyermouse (OP) User ID: 33832088 United States 02/16/2013 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What are hay prices like in your area this year? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34471515 We are paying up to $80 for a 800 lb 4x5 round, last year more like $25. We grow our own so I couldn't tell you. I did hear from other people that it's pretty outrageous though. what was the hay yield like in your area last year? We were about 60% of normal here in central ontario. I'd say %60 is an accurate estimate of our alfalfa yield last year. Petyermouse |