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liberal jews are usually jewish in name only, they belong to a far left ideology much as barack obama, nancy pelosi, and hillary clinton do, none of whom I believe are jewish. unless of course you are claiming that without secular leftist jews none of the above would be the douche bags they are? leftism is a dead-end and kills all it touches.
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In what way have any of the above mentioned international terrorists done anything to oppose Zionism?

Nothing -- they serve it loyally.
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then you are rather ill-informed, the above serve islam to the detriment of this country and freedom. i personally don't give a crap about religion one way or the other and neither do the above mentioned they are concerned with ideology and the destruction of western values.
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They are parasites with a fetish for world wars and large genocides.
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as a jew, it is the satanic element within the community that is the trouble... you know, the luciferian banisters... not all of whom are jewish, btw...

jews are useful to the real powers, seems like...

most supposed "jews" are Godless... real Jews are not the problem...

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liberal jews are usually jewish in name only, they belong to a far left ideology much as barack obama, nancy pelosi, and hillary clinton do, none of whom I believe are jewish. unless of course you are claiming that without secular leftist jews none of the above would be the douche bags they are? leftism is a dead-end and kills all it touches.
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In what way have any of the above mentioned international terrorists done anything to oppose Zionism?

Nothing -- they serve it loyally.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34588149


then you are rather ill-informed, the above serve islam to the detriment of this country and freedom. i personally don't give a crap about religion one way or the other and neither do the above mentioned they are concerned with ideology and the destruction of western values.
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Really? They serve Islam to the detriment of this country and our freedumb?

How do they serve Islam? By droning kids in Pakistan? By leveling sanctions against Iran? By using computer viruses to disrupt peaceful Iranian nuclear technology advancements? By destablizing Syria with the Free Syrian Army -- a "rebel" group which is openly supportive of Israel's right to exist?

What Western values are they out to destroy? What traditional Western values are they seeking to destroy? From where I stand every single one of them endlessly parrots and yammers on about "diversity", "multi-culturalism", "globalism", and "democracy" -- none of which have any real place in the true Western tradition of authoritarianism, nobility, and autarky.
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They have done nothing to y'all. Why the hate?
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Because Jews have been hated on since forever. The reason? Jealousy and they're easy targets mainly because out of all the major religions, they are by far the smallest. It's kind of like picking on the small kid in the schoolyard.

Then there are the holy rollers who think the Jews were responsible for killing Jesus.

Assholes will say "becuz dey evil satan controlz the bankz and wurlduh!!!1!" But they're just being sheep who are trying be cool among the rest of the pitchfork haters.

Really though..it all comes down to religion. Religion is the one thing that has truly been the cause of all the bad shit that has gone wrong with humanity.
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Check it out

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[link to www.noahide.com]
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Re: Why do you guys hate Jews?
as a jew, it is the satanic element within the community that is the trouble... you know, the luciferian banisters... not all of whom are jewish, btw...

jews are useful to the real powers, seems like...

most supposed "jews" are Godless... real Jews are not the problem...

:)
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By satanic element..you mean adversarial, right? After all, that's all what satan means. Luciferians? Please, gimme a break.

If the whole world was godless, we'd probably be in much better shape right now.
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liberal jews are usually jewish in name only, they belong to a far left ideology much as barack obama, nancy pelosi, and hillary clinton do, none of whom I believe are jewish. unless of course you are claiming that without secular leftist jews none of the above would be the douche bags they are? leftism is a dead-end and kills all it touches.
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In what way have any of the above mentioned international terrorists done anything to oppose Zionism?

Nothing -- they serve it loyally.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34588149


then you are rather ill-informed, the above serve islam to the detriment of this country and freedom. i personally don't give a crap about religion one way or the other and neither do the above mentioned they are concerned with ideology and the destruction of western values.
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^^^^^^^

A Jew that doesn't give a crap about the Jewish religion.

But he still calls himself a Jew.

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They have done nothing to y'all. Why the hate?
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Because Jews have been hated on since forever. The reason? Jealousy and they're easy targets mainly because out of all the major religions, they are by far the smallest. It's kind of like picking on the small kid in the schoolyard.

Then there are the holy rollers who think the Jews were responsible for killing Jesus.

Assholes will say "becuz dey evil satan controlz the bankz and wurlduh!!!1!" But they're just being sheep who are trying be cool among the rest of the pitchfork haters.

Really though..it all comes down to religion. Religion is the one thing that has truly been the cause of all the bad shit that has gone wrong with humanity.
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Check it out

Who Was Jesus?
[link to www.noahide.com]
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I don't believe in Jesus Christ. It's doubtful the man ever existed. If he did, he was just that, a man. He was not the son of god.
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liberal jews are usually jewish in name only, they belong to a far left ideology much as barack obama, nancy pelosi, and hillary clinton do, none of whom I believe are jewish. unless of course you are claiming that without secular leftist jews none of the above would be the douche bags they are? leftism is a dead-end and kills all it touches.
 Quoting: davvi


In what way have any of the above mentioned international terrorists done anything to oppose Zionism?

Nothing -- they serve it loyally.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34588149


then you are rather ill-informed, the above serve islam to the detriment of this country and freedom. i personally don't give a crap about religion one way or the other and neither do the above mentioned they are concerned with ideology and the destruction of western values.
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^^^^^^^

A Jew that doesn't give a crap about the Jewish religion.

But he still calls himself a Jew.

scratching
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cruise
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I have nothing against "jews"...just the Zionists who control the United States government and are continuing their efforts to cede all control to the police powers, municipal, county, state and federal, at the expense of individual liberty.
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Not forgetting the hijack of Medicine, Education, News, television, film and print. Then there are the rent collectors including banking, Wall St., commodity trading and commercial property. The first 100 years, few noticed, though it's obvious now!
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They have done nothing to y'all. Why the hate?
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Because Jews have been hated on since forever. The reason? Jealousy and they're easy targets mainly because out of all the major religions, they are by far the smallest. It's kind of like picking on the small kid in the schoolyard.

Then there are the holy rollers who think the Jews were responsible for killing Jesus.

Assholes will say "becuz dey evil satan controlz the bankz and wurlduh!!!1!" But they're just being sheep who are trying be cool among the rest of the pitchfork haters.

Really though..it all comes down to religion. Religion is the one thing that has truly been the cause of all the bad shit that has gone wrong with humanity.
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Check it out

Who Was Jesus?
[link to www.noahide.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33832742


I don't believe in Jesus Christ. It's doubtful the man ever existed. If he did, he was just that, a man. He was not the son of god.
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Your fellow Jews seem to believe he existed. And they also believe he had to be gotten rid of, with extreme prejudice.
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Whoops I forgot to say the legal system!
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I have no problem with Jews.

Zionists, on the other hand, are the spawn of Satan.
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"On this site, the terms Jew and Zionist are used in a precise way. All Jews are Zionists (even those who claim to oppose Zionism) unless they voluntarily do not reproduce. This is because the fundamental motivation for Zionism is the Jewish identity itself, and thus all demographic reinforcement of the Jewish identity amounts to implicit support for Zionism, even if such support is not professed. On the other hand, not all Zionists are Jews, indeed part of the difficulty of dealing with Zionism is because Jews are able to herd non-Jews into promoting the Zionist agenda. Among non-Jewish Zionists, we distinguish broadly between Zionist agents (witting workers for Zionism) and Zionist useful idiots (unwitting workers for Zionism). For the record, Zionism did not originate with Theodor Herzl (Jew), but is as old as the Tanakh itself – “Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the Lord of hosts shall reign in mount Zion” – and refers simply to the political expression of Judaism throughout history."

"The easiest way for a crime network to stay in power is to deploy its own members as the investigators of its own crimes, and on each occasion set up either low-level puppets or completely innocent victims to take the fall. The easiest way for an invisible government to stay in power is to deploy its own members as the critics of its own policies, and on each occasion set up the visible government to take the fall. This is conventionally known as scapegoating – a concept originating in the Tanakh whereby the sins of a Jew can be ritually transferred to a sacrificial goat sent into the wilderness, leaving the Jew sinless.

This is a standard trick periodically used by Zionists to produce the illusion of change (criminals caught, bad governments overthrown, etc.) – what we call a Goy Wheel – that prevents people from seeking the slavemaster behind the curtains. Each time it succeeds, Zionists can demand more power over society as a whole, ostensibly to address the problem (that they themselves created), actually to move the world nearer to Zion."


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Thread: Zionism was founded in 1896 by Austrian journalist Theodor Herzl (hmmm, another Austrian trying to seal the fate of jews ...)


WHY IS WORLD JEWRY OPPOSED TO THE ZIONIST STATE

1) WHAT IS "THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL" ?

-The people of Israel have existed for thousands of years.
-It has its own particular, essential, nature.
-The Torah is the source of its essential nature.
-Without Torah and faith there is no people of Israel.
-Whoever denies the Torah and the Faith is no longer part of the people of Israel.
-The purpose of the People of Israel in this world is Divine service.
-Their salvation is occupation in Divine Service.

2) WHAT IS ZIONISM ?

-Zionism is a new thing.
-It has only existed for a century.
-Zionism redefines the true essential nature of the people of Israel, and substitutes for it a completely contradictory and opposite character.
- a materialistic worldly nation.
-Their misfortune is lack of what other nations have. i.e. a state and army.
-Their salvation is possession of a state and army etc.
- This is clearly speed out in the circles of Zionist though, and among the leaders of the Zionist state, That through changing the nature and character of the people of Israel and by changing their way of thinking they can set before the People of Israel "their salvation." -- a state and an army.

3) THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL OPPOSE THIS FOR 4 REASONS

FIRST - Because this is diametrically opposed and completely contradictory to the true essence and foundation of the people of Israel, as it explained above. Because the only time that the people of Israel where permitted to have a state were two thousand years ago when the Glory of the Creator was upon us. And likewise in the future when the Glory of the Creator will once more be revealed, and the whole world will serve Him. Then He Himself (without any human effort or force of arms) will grant us a kingdom founded on Divine Service.

However, a wordily state, like those possessed by other peoples, is contradictory to the true essence of the People of Israel. Whoever calls this the salvation of Israel shows that he denies the essence of the People of Israel, and substituted another nature, a worldly materialistic nature, and therefore sets before them, a worldly materialistic "salvation." And the means of achieving this "salvation" is also worldly and materialistic i.e. to organize land and army.

However, the true salvation of the People of Israel is to draw close to the Creator. And this is not done by organization and force of arms. Rather, it is done by occupation to Torah and good deeds.

SECOND - Because of all of this and other reasons Torah forbids us to end the exile and establish a state and army until the Holy One, blessed be He, in His Glory and Essence redeems us. This is forbidden even if the state is conducted according to the law of the Torah. Because arising from the exile itself is forbidden, and we are required to remain under the rule of the nations of the world, as it explained in the book VAYOEL MOSHE. And the Holy One, blessed be He, has warned us that if we transgress this injunction, He will bring upon us (may we be spared) terrible punishment.

THIRD - Aside from arising from exile, all the deeds of the Zionists are diametrically opposed to the Faith and the Torah. Because the foundation of the Faith and Torah of Israel, is that the Torah was revealed from heaven, and there is reward for those who obey it and punishment for those who transgress it. The entire People of Israel are required to obey the Torah, and whoever doesn't want to, ceases to be part of the Congregation of Israel.

FOURTH - Aside from the fact that they themselves do not obey the Torah, they do everything they can to prevent anyone they get under their power, from fulfilling the commands of the Torah. They do this both with force and with trickery. Their claims to freedom of religion are lies. They fight will all of their strength to destroy the Faith of Israel.

4) THE ZIONISTS CLAIM THAT THEY ARE THE SAVERS OF ISRAEL, BUT THIS IS REFUTED BY TWELVE THINGS.

FIRST - If one contemplates the two thousand years of our exile, take any hundred years even the hardest, one will not find as much suffering, bloodshed, and catastrophes for the People of Israel as in the period of the Zionists. And it is known that most of the suffering of this century was caused by the Zionists as our Rabbis warned us would be the case.

SECOND - It is openly stated in the books written by the founders of Zionism that the means by which they planned to establish a state was by instigating anti-Semitism, and undermining the security of the jewish people in all the lands of the world, until they would be forced to flee to their state. And thus they did. They intentionally infuriated the German people and fanned the flames of Nazi hatred, and then helped the Nazis, with trickery and deceit, to take whole Jewish communities off to the concentration camps, and the Zionists themselves admit this. (See books Perfidy, Min Ha Meitsor, etc.). The Zionists continue to practice this strategy today, they incite anti-Semitism and then they present themselves as the "saviors". Here are two replies given by leaders of the Zionists during World War II, when they were asked for money to help ransom jewish people from the Nazis. Greenbaum said "One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the jewish people in Poland." (G-d Forbid). Weitzman said, The most important part of the Jewish people is already in the land (of Israel) and those who are left, are unimportant (May we be spared).

THIRD - We see that most of the world Jewry, lives in security under good physical conditions, and have no desire to go live in the Zionist state. Whereas many people have left the Zionist state to live under better conditions in other lands.

FOURTH - The Zionists make a great deal of propaganda to induce people to immigrate too their state. If their state is so beneficial why do they have to make so much propaganda.

FIFTH - Because nobody wants the Zionists to "Save them". The only way they can get immigrants is by promising poor people material benefits. And even then very few people respond.

SIXTH - The Zionist state is always threatened by the dangers of war. Whereas the rest of world Jewry lives in peace and security. (Except in a few places where the Zionists have undermined their security and fanned the flames of hatred)

SEVENTH - The Zionist state could not continue to exist without economic support from jewish people living outside of the Zionist state.

EIGHTH - The Zionist state is on the verge of economic collapse, and their money is nearly worthless.

NINTH - The Zionist state persecutes all jewish people who are loyal to their faith.

TENTH - They start wars that endanger the Jewish People, for the sake of their own political interests.

ELEVENTH - According to the Torah the path of safety is following ways of peace not starting fights with other nations, as the Zionists do.

TWELFTH - Even if the Zionists could and would provide physical security it would be at the expense of our Faith and Our Torah. And the true People of Israel prefer death rather than life at such a cost. It is therefore clear that Zionism is not the savior of the people of Israel. Rather it is their greatest misfortune.

5. EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE OBSERVANT jewish people AND RABBIS, WHO APPROVE OF THE ZIONISTS, THIS IS NOT THE OPINION OF THE TORAH.

- The people of Israel has existed for thousands of years.
- It has its own particular, essential, nature.
- The Torah is the source of its essential nature.
- Without Torah and faith there is no people of Israel.
- Whoever denies the Torah and the Faith is no longer part of the people of Israel.
- The purpose of the People of Israel in this world is Divine service.
- Their salvation is occupation in Divine Service.
- They make it look like all Jewry and their Rabbis are
Zionists, but this is false propaganda.
- The most important Rabbis and the majority of religious
Jewry are opposed to Zionism, but their voice is not heard because of Zionist control of American News media.
- The Zionists terrorize everyone who speaks out against
them.
- That part of the Jewish masses which is fooled by Zionist propaganda puts pressure on their Rabbis not to speak out.
- Between the terror and the pressure of the masses most of the Rabbis are prevented from speaking out.

6) WE BRING THREE TESTIMONIES OF THE TRUE OPINION OF THE TORAH.

1) In the past two thousand years of the dangers and sufferings of exile not once did any of the Sages of Israel suggest that we make a state to protect ourselves. And in every generation we had thousands of Sages well versed in the Torah.

2) We have thousands of legal work of Torah law that have been handed down to us by the Sages of all generations. Not once do we see a word suggesting the establishment of a state. What we do find is warnings against it.

3) The founders of Zionism where all atheists who denied the Torah. And all the Torah Sages of that time opposed them and opposed Zionism, saying that Zionism would lead only to destruction.

However the true People of Israel will never change their nature or give up their faith. They are the strongest of the strong. Because of their strength the Creator gives them. Zionism is a foreign growth in the body of the Jewish People. The end will be that it will rid itself of this foreign growth and remain pure. Zionism has overcome the Jewish people by force. With fraud and terror, but none of this will help them because the truth will always remain with the help of the Creator. Zionism will not replace the Jewish People. The Jewish People will remain strong in their faith and the Zionist state will cease to exist.

4) It is therefore, our demand that the State that calls itself ISRAEL should cease to exist. Since this won't be done, we demand that they cease to call themselves "Israel", because the entire being is in complete opposition to the true People of Israel. The true People of Israel deny them permission to call themselves by that Name. The Zionist leaders have no right to set themselves up as the representatives and spokesmen of the true People of ISRAEL.

5) Since we know they will not fulfill this demand either we feel that at least we cry out the truth. And the truth will always remain the truth. By no means or force can the truth be changed. Even if all the world would say that one and one are three, the truth will remain that one and one is two.

6) Let the truth be declared. The use of the Name "ISRAEL" by that state is a complete falsification. The people of Israel have nothing to do with the state. Zionism and its state have no share and no part in the true ISRAEL.

[link to www.jewsnotzionists.org]
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liberal jews are usually jewish in name only, they belong to a far left ideology much as barack obama, nancy pelosi, and hillary clinton do, none of whom I believe are jewish. unless of course you are claiming that without secular leftist jews none of the above would be the douche bags they are? leftism is a dead-end and kills all it touches.
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In what way have any of the above mentioned international terrorists done anything to oppose Zionism?

Nothing -- they serve it loyally.
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then you are rather ill-informed, the above serve islam to the detriment of this country and freedom. i personally don't give a crap about religion one way or the other and neither do the above mentioned they are concerned with ideology and the destruction of western values.
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^^^^^^^

A Jew that doesn't give a crap about the Jewish religion.

But he still calls himself a Jew.

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There's such a thing as humanistic Jews. Those are people who were born into a Jewish family and who identify with their family, the people and culture, but who do not practice the religious aspect of Judaism.
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Oh and entertainment (where money is to be made!)
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Rabbi Reisman: Most Great Rabbis Were Completely Opposed to Political Zionism, Because of the Three Oaths

The following article is taken from the front page of the Flatbush Jewish Journal, Dec. 27, 2012.

Hundreds of men and women packed the Agudath Israel of Madison in the Flatbush neighborhood of Brooklyn, New York on Tuesday, December 25, to take part in a special morning-long series of lectures organized for the legal holiday, when many people are off from work.

Rabbi Yisroel Reisman, spiritual leader of the host synagogue, focused his lecture on the verse in Song of Songs 2:7, where King Solomon wrote: "Daughters of Jerusalem, I (G-d) make you take an oath...not to reawaken the love [for the Holy Land] until the time is right!"

Noting that the verse is repeated a second time in the Song of Songs, Rabbi Reisman said the great debate on the political aspects of Zionism that raged more than a century ago between the religious and secular segments of the Jewish people revolved around the above verse.

It would appear that the verse is commanding the Jewish nation not to force the issue of returning and gaining control of the Holy Land, our ancient homeland, until G-d deems it proper by sending us the messiah and our long-awaited redemption.

Indeed, Rabbi Reisman explained that the position of most of the greatest rabbis prior to the declaration of the State of Israel in 1948 was that of complete opposition to political Zionism. Furthermore, most of the Jews who did immigrate to the Holy Land did so not based on Zionistic sentiments, but as a reaction against strong outbreaks of anti-Semitism.

The First Aliyah (wave of massive Jewish immigration) occurred beginning in the early 1880s in response to the first violent anti-Semitic pogroms in Tsarist Russia that struck hundreds of Jewish communities, both large and small. The Second Aliyah beginning in 1904 was likewise the response of Jews to a second more deadly series of pogroms, especially in Kishinev. The Third Aliyah occurred during the years between World War One and World War Two when many Jews found the situation in Europe extremely unsettling.

Rabbi Reisman called the Third Aliyah the Grabski Aliyah in reference to the post World War One finance minister of Poland who made terrible decrees against the Jews, making it almost impossible for them to make a decent livelihood and pushing many Jews in desperation to immigrate to the Holy Land.

And the Fourth Aliyah was that after World War Two when survivors of the Holocaust made their way to new lives in the Holy Land.

According to the opinion of Rabbi Zeira in the Talmud, which is accepted as practical law, the verse in the Song of Songs only applies to a large number of Jews trying to go back to the Land of Israel by force. The Avnei Nezer also considered this verse as meaning that Jews should not go back to take control of the Land of Israel. An individual Jew, however, is permitted to go peacefully and live in the Holy Land, and even a large number of Jews may go if the government grants them permission to do so.

Although most of the Torah rabbis opposed the establishment of a Jewish state in our ancient homeland, once it was established in 1948, the attitude of some leading rabbis changed to one of working with the government in recognition of the fact that it does allow yeshivas to exist and grants freedom of religion for Jews to study and observe the Torah. As Rabbi Reuven Grozovsky wrote, the ideals don't change. The ideal of sticking to the three oaths remains. But because the facts of the ground have changed, therefore our behavior is different.

On the other hand, the Satmar Rebbe held that for a religious Jew to live today in those parts of Eretz Yisroel that are under the control of the Zionists is almost like living under the control and influence of idol worshippers. This was based on a verse in the Bible (I Samuel 26:19) in which King David expresses his disappointment in being chased into Gath in the land of the Philistines. King David felt that he was going to a land of idol worship, since he had to serve the Philistines, who in turn worshipped idols - despite the fact that the Philistines' land was part of the Holy Land.

The Flatbush Jewish Journal is delivered free of charge to 22,000 homes, synagogues and stores in Flatbush, Boro Park and the Five Towns. It reaches approximately 200,000 people.

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liberal jews are usually jewish in name only, they belong to a far left ideology much as barack obama, nancy pelosi, and hillary clinton do, none of whom I believe are jewish. unless of course you are claiming that without secular leftist jews none of the above would be the douche bags they are? leftism is a dead-end and kills all it touches.
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In what way have any of the above mentioned international terrorists done anything to oppose Zionism?

Nothing -- they serve it loyally.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34588149


then you are rather ill-informed, the above serve islam to the detriment of this country and freedom. i personally don't give a crap about religion one way or the other and neither do the above mentioned they are concerned with ideology and the destruction of western values.
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Really? They serve Islam to the detriment of this country and our freedumb?

How do they serve Islam? By droning kids in Pakistan? By leveling sanctions against Iran? By using computer viruses to disrupt peaceful Iranian nuclear technology advancements? By destablizing Syria with the Free Syrian Army -- a "rebel" group which is openly supportive of Israel's right to exist?

What Western values are they out to destroy? What traditional Western values are they seeking to destroy? From where I stand every single one of them endlessly parrots and yammers on about "diversity", "multi-culturalism", "globalism", and "democracy" -- none of which have any real place in the true Western tradition of authoritarianism, nobility, and autarky.
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"freedumb"? "peaceful iranian nuclear technology"? LOL well? am i now supposed to take you seriously?

the left and the muzz both have the same goal and that is to destroy judeo-christian values of which this country was founded upon. what this nation was flies in the face of leftist ideology. the enemy of my enemy is my friend so they have joined forces and once they have destroyed the west they will turn on each other. unfortunately i will not be here to watch scum eat scum, but you will.

it is an unholy alliance
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There is something terribly wrong with Zionism as even Jews distance themselves from Zionism and the Zionist State ...

What is Zionism?

Zionism is a movement founded by Theodor Herzl in 1896 whose goal is the return of Jews to Eretz Yisrael, or Zion, the Jewish synonym for Jerusalem and the Land of Israel.

The name of "Zionism" comes from the hill Zion, the hill on which the Temple of Jerusalem was situated.

Supporters of this movement are called "Zionists".

Today there is much confusion among Jews over the meaning of the term Zionism. It means different things to different people.

The reason for this is that historically, Zionism has been a movement dominated by secularist Jews. Herzl and most of his colleagues were assimilated Jews, who did not believe in or practice the Torah. Some Zionists were vehemently anti-religious, and saw the Torah and mitzvos as outdated rituals with no place in their modern state.

Yet the essence of the Zionist idea - that Jews should return to the Holy Land and establish a government - is not inherently secular, and in fact the Zionist movement had some religious members from the very beginning.

Some Jews today use Zionism as a synonym for Israeli secularism, and thus support the State of Israel while claiming to be anti-Zionist. These people's only complaint about the State of Israel is that it is not religious enough. They hope for the day when the state will be dominated by the religious parties.

But this is not the meaning of the term Zionism as used on this site. When we talk about Zionism here, we are refering to the concept that Jews should rise up, emancipate themselves from exile without waiting for the messiah, and establish a Jewish government in the Holy Land. Using Jewish texts, we demonstrate that this concept is against the Torah and has been opposed by rabbis in all generations.

There have been hundreds of rabbis over the past century who spoke out against the Zionist movement. But because of the ambiguity of the term, it is not always possible to prove that a given rabbi meant to oppose the concept of Zionism, rather than just secularism. For this reason, religious Zionists often make the claim that much rabbinic opposition to Zionism was only because it was a secular movement. On the "Rabbinic Quotations" section of this site, we have avoided this confusion by carefully selecting those quotations that are clearly against the concept of Zionism itself. As the reader will see, these quotations alone are enough proof that almost all of the greatest sages and leaders of the Jewish people opposed the establishment of a Jewish state.

[link to www.truetorahjews.org]

Zionism and Anti-Semitism

Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, recognized that anti-Semitism would further his cause, the creation of a separate state for Jews. To solve the Jewish Question, he maintained “we must, above all, make it an international political issue.”

Herzl wrote that Zionism offered the world a welcome “final solution of the Jewish question.” In his “Diaries”, page 19, Herzl stated “Anti-Semites will become our surest friends, anti-Semitic countries our allies.”

Zionist reliance on Anti-Semitism to further their goals continues to this day. Studies of immigration records reflect increased immigration to the Zionist state during times of increased anti-Semitism. Without a continued inflow of Jewish immigrants to the state of "Israel", it is estimated that within a decade the Jewish population of the Zionist state will become the minority.

In order to maintain a Jewish majority in the state of "Israel", its leaders promote anti-Semitism throughout the world to "encourage" Jews to leave their homelands and seek "refuge".

Most people are not aware that in March, 1933, when Hitler became the undisputed leader of Germany and began restricting the rights of German Jews, the American Jewish Congress announced a massive protest at Madison Square Garden and called for an American boycott of German goods.

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There is something terribly wrong with Zionism as even Jews distance themselves from Zionism and the Zionist State ...

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I have no problem with Jews.

Zionists, on the other hand, are the spawn of Satan.
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"On this site, the terms Jew and Zionist are used in a precise way. All Jews are Zionists (even those who claim to oppose Zionism) unless they voluntarily do not reproduce. This is because the fundamental motivation for Zionism is the Jewish identity itself, and thus all demographic reinforcement of the Jewish identity amounts to implicit support for Zionism, even if such support is not professed. On the other hand, not all Zionists are Jews, indeed part of the difficulty of dealing with Zionism is because Jews are able to herd non-Jews into promoting the Zionist agenda. Among non-Jewish Zionists, we distinguish broadly between Zionist agents (witting workers for Zionism) and Zionist useful idiots (unwitting workers for Zionism). For the record, Zionism did not originate with Theodor Herzl (Jew), but is as old as the Tanakh itself – “Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the Lord of hosts shall reign in mount Zion” – and refers simply to the political expression of Judaism throughout history."

"The easiest way for a crime network to stay in power is to deploy its own members as the investigators of its own crimes, and on each occasion set up either low-level puppets or completely innocent victims to take the fall. The easiest way for an invisible government to stay in power is to deploy its own members as the critics of its own policies, and on each occasion set up the visible government to take the fall. This is conventionally known as scapegoating – a concept originating in the Tanakh whereby the sins of a Jew can be ritually transferred to a sacrificial goat sent into the wilderness, leaving the Jew sinless.

This is a standard trick periodically used by Zionists to produce the illusion of change (criminals caught, bad governments overthrown, etc.) – what we call a Goy Wheel – that prevents people from seeking the slavemaster behind the curtains. Each time it succeeds, Zionists can demand more power over society as a whole, ostensibly to address the problem (that they themselves created), actually to move the world nearer to Zion."


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[link to www.jewsnotzionists.org]
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Stop posting your degenerate misinformation all over the site. Judaism is Zionism and it's root is in the Tanakh.

Jews were being thrown out of countries for the exact same behavior that "True Torah Jews" are trying to scapegoat onto "Zionist Jews" long before Theodor Herzl was born. Stop obfuscating the issue.
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Because Jews have been hated on since forever. The reason? Jealousy and they're easy targets mainly because out of all the major religions, they are by far the smallest. It's kind of like picking on the small kid in the schoolyard.

Then there are the holy rollers who think the Jews were responsible for killing Jesus.

Assholes will say "becuz dey evil satan controlz the bankz and wurlduh!!!1!" But they're just being sheep who are trying be cool among the rest of the pitchfork haters.

Really though..it all comes down to religion. Religion is the one thing that has truly been the cause of all the bad shit that has gone wrong with humanity.
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Check it out

Who Was Jesus?
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I don't believe in Jesus Christ. It's doubtful the man ever existed. If he did, he was just that, a man. He was not the son of god.
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Your fellow Jews seem to believe he existed. And they also believe he had to be gotten rid of, with extreme prejudice.
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I'm an atheist. So that whole story is about as believable as The Great Pumpkin rising up from the pumpkin patch. I'm not from the Mel Gibson school of off-the-wall religious whackery, like some.
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"freedumb"? "peaceful iranian nuclear technology"? LOL well? am i now supposed to take you seriously?

the left and the muzz both have the same goal and that is to destroy judeo-christian values of which this country was founded upon. what this nation was flies in the face of leftist ideology. the enemy of my enemy is my friend so they have joined forces and once they have destroyed the west they will turn on each other. unfortunately i will not be here to watch scum eat scum, but you will.

it is an unholy alliance
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There is no such thing as "Judeo-Christianity" [which, by the way, is NOT what the United States of America, nor Western Civilization, was founded upon].
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I have no problem with Jews.

Zionists, on the other hand, are the spawn of Satan.
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"On this site, the terms Jew and Zionist are used in a precise way. All Jews are Zionists (even those who claim to oppose Zionism) unless they voluntarily do not reproduce. This is because the fundamental motivation for Zionism is the Jewish identity itself, and thus all demographic reinforcement of the Jewish identity amounts to implicit support for Zionism, even if such support is not professed. On the other hand, not all Zionists are Jews, indeed part of the difficulty of dealing with Zionism is because Jews are able to herd non-Jews into promoting the Zionist agenda. Among non-Jewish Zionists, we distinguish broadly between Zionist agents (witting workers for Zionism) and Zionist useful idiots (unwitting workers for Zionism). For the record, Zionism did not originate with Theodor Herzl (Jew), but is as old as the Tanakh itself – “Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the Lord of hosts shall reign in mount Zion” – and refers simply to the political expression of Judaism throughout history."

"The easiest way for a crime network to stay in power is to deploy its own members as the investigators of its own crimes, and on each occasion set up either low-level puppets or completely innocent victims to take the fall. The easiest way for an invisible government to stay in power is to deploy its own members as the critics of its own policies, and on each occasion set up the visible government to take the fall. This is conventionally known as scapegoating – a concept originating in the Tanakh whereby the sins of a Jew can be ritually transferred to a sacrificial goat sent into the wilderness, leaving the Jew sinless.

This is a standard trick periodically used by Zionists to produce the illusion of change (criminals caught, bad governments overthrown, etc.) – what we call a Goy Wheel – that prevents people from seeking the slavemaster behind the curtains. Each time it succeeds, Zionists can demand more power over society as a whole, ostensibly to address the problem (that they themselves created), actually to move the world nearer to Zion."


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They do have the nasty proclivity of breeding Zionists, don't they?

chuckle

I do take heart at the True Torah Jews and the Jews Against Zionism groups.

If it weren't for these rational groups, I'd probably believe that all Zionists are Jews, and therefore all Jews are Zionists.

And I'm fucking sick of ZOG, which seems to underpin the prevailing power structure. Time for it to come down.
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In what way have any of the above mentioned international terrorists done anything to oppose Zionism?

Nothing -- they serve it loyally.
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then you are rather ill-informed, the above serve islam to the detriment of this country and freedom. i personally don't give a crap about religion one way or the other and neither do the above mentioned they are concerned with ideology and the destruction of western values.
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^^^^^^^

A Jew that doesn't give a crap about the Jewish religion.

But he still calls himself a Jew.

scratching
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There's such a thing as humanistic Jews. Those are people who were born into a Jewish family and who identify with their family, the people and culture, but who do not practice the religious aspect of Judaism.
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Ah.

People who don't even believe in God believe that God gave the land now called "Israel" to the Jews. And they expect the rest of us to believe it too.

Okay.

That makes sense.

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Stop spreading your fucking bullshit.

Judaism as a racial, terroristic, anti-Gentile doctrine has its foundations in the Torah.
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its not the torah thats the problem but the talmud which is in essence the most fucked up racially charged text written by deceived pharisees of that time.
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I have no problem with Jews.

Zionists, on the other hand, are the spawn of Satan.
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"On this site, the terms Jew and Zionist are used in a precise way. All Jews are Zionists (even those who claim to oppose Zionism) unless they voluntarily do not reproduce. This is because the fundamental motivation for Zionism is the Jewish identity itself, and thus all demographic reinforcement of the Jewish identity amounts to implicit support for Zionism, even if such support is not professed. On the other hand, not all Zionists are Jews, indeed part of the difficulty of dealing with Zionism is because Jews are able to herd non-Jews into promoting the Zionist agenda. Among non-Jewish Zionists, we distinguish broadly between Zionist agents (witting workers for Zionism) and Zionist useful idiots (unwitting workers for Zionism). For the record, Zionism did not originate with Theodor Herzl (Jew), but is as old as the Tanakh itself – “Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the Lord of hosts shall reign in mount Zion” – and refers simply to the political expression of Judaism throughout history."

"The easiest way for a crime network to stay in power is to deploy its own members as the investigators of its own crimes, and on each occasion set up either low-level puppets or completely innocent victims to take the fall. The easiest way for an invisible government to stay in power is to deploy its own members as the critics of its own policies, and on each occasion set up the visible government to take the fall. This is conventionally known as scapegoating – a concept originating in the Tanakh whereby the sins of a Jew can be ritually transferred to a sacrificial goat sent into the wilderness, leaving the Jew sinless.

This is a standard trick periodically used by Zionists to produce the illusion of change (criminals caught, bad governments overthrown, etc.) – what we call a Goy Wheel – that prevents people from seeking the slavemaster behind the curtains. Each time it succeeds, Zionists can demand more power over society as a whole, ostensibly to address the problem (that they themselves created), actually to move the world nearer to Zion."


[link to aryanism.net]
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They do have the nasty proclivity of breeding Zionists, don't they?

chuckle

I do take heart at the True Torah Jews and the Jews Against Zionism groups.

If it weren't for these rational groups, I'd probably believe that all Zionists are Jews, and therefore all Jews are Zionists.

And I'm fucking sick of ZOG, which seems to underpin the prevailing power structure. Time for it to come down.
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You aren't getting it and you are just another of a long stream of garbage posters in this thread who keep name dropping "True Torah Jews" and non-Zionist Jews. One more, for emphasis:

"The easiest way for a crime network to stay in power is to deploy its own members as the investigators of its own crimes, and on each occasion set up either low-level puppets or completely innocent victims to take the fall. The easiest way for an invisible government to stay in power is to deploy its own members as the critics of its own policies, and on each occasion set up the visible government to take the fall. This is conventionally known as scapegoating – a concept originating in the Tanakh whereby the sins of a Jew can be ritually transferred to a sacrificial goat sent into the wilderness, leaving the Jew sinless."
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Stop spreading your fucking bullshit.

Judaism as a racial, terroristic, anti-Gentile doctrine has its foundations in the Torah.
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its not the torah thats the problem but the talmud which is in essence the most fucked up racially charged text written by deceived pharisees of that time.
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The Torah is most certainly the problem.
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The Jew is the problem, period. The only good Jew is a dead or sterile one. I don't want them dispersed and I don't want them concentrated in one place. Their continued existence on the planet is an obstacle that must be overcome.
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quackdocpistol1 Hello I'm Dr Quack your Internet Appointed Trick Cyclist. As an American citizen your obviously

not fit to own any type of firearms because you have openly expressed hatred against Jews. Expect a visit from your friendly local FEMA SWAT Team any time soon.
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John 19:14 Now it was the Preparation Day of the Passover, and about the sixth hour. And he said to the Jews, "Behold your King!"

John 19:15 But they cried out, "Away with Him, away with Him! Crucify Him!"
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"freedumb"? "peaceful iranian nuclear technology"? LOL well? am i now supposed to take you seriously?

the left and the muzz both have the same goal and that is to destroy judeo-christian values of which this country was founded upon. what this nation was flies in the face of leftist ideology. the enemy of my enemy is my friend so they have joined forces and once they have destroyed the west they will turn on each other. unfortunately i will not be here to watch scum eat scum, but you will.

it is an unholy alliance
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There is no such thing as "Judeo-Christianity" [which, by the way, is NOT what the United States of America, nor Western Civilization, was founded upon].
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really? i think the founding fathers would disagree with you. but given that you are right exactly what philosophy was the US founded?
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They have done nothing to y'all. Why the hate?
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I don't hate Jews. I am 1/2 Jewish. But I despise the Zionist warmongering agenda. Israel is ruled by evil and needs to be dismantled.

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