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Message Subject Why do you guys hate Jews?
Poster Handle Anonymous Coward
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I have nothing against "jews"...just the Zionists who control the United States government and are continuing their efforts to cede all control to the police powers, municipal, county, state and federal, at the expense of individual liberty......bump
 Quoting: Elsabiades... 33593574

So what you're saying is, if Ben Bernanke the dirty jew financial swindler doesn't support Israel, that means he's ok. You can have a little more courage than that. Anti-semite is not the worst thing a person can call you. "Street Bum," is worse. And that's what you're going to be, living under the fucking overpass because the jews stole everything you have. All because you didn't want to be accused of being an anti-semite.

The problem is the fucking jew, not Zionism. Zionism is a good thing, in actual fact. If every fucking jew in the world left for Zion, we'd all be OK.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34597731

You, sir are a true anti-semite towards the true religious jews hf

Read here why:

Judaism and its opposition to Zionism

What is Judaism and who are the Jews?
Judaism is a system of belief and practices derived from the Torah, and the Jews are the people who hold those beliefs and follow those practices. Judaism sees all of history as the Almighty’s plan. The history of the Jewish people has a specific format outlined in the words of the Torah which includes the Old Testament, the words of the prophets, the Talmud etc. There was a time when Jews had a land, a monarchy and a Temple in Jerusalem. When the Temple was destroyed and Jerusalem was conquered by the Romans almost two thousand years ago, the Jewish exile began. Jews are still waiting for that exile to end with the messianic era, when all of mankind will unite in the service of the Almighty.

According to Jewish belief, the Jews did not lose the Temple and Jerusalem because of their own military weakness. Rather, it was the Almighty’s will that the Jewish people be exiled and spread around the world as an atonement for their sins, and in order to spread the Almighty’s message to all the nations of the world. Therefore, it is clear that Jewish military force cannot end the exile; the exile will end only when the Almighty sees fit to end it and send His redeemer. It is for this Divine redemption that the Jewish people have always waited – not for any sort of conquest of the Holy Land, or opportunity to return to it.

The Jewish view of exile and redemption is legally expressed in the famous Talmudic passage of the Three Oaths, under which the Jews are bound during their exilic existence. The Almighty put the Jews under oath: 1. not to return en-mass to the Holy Land, 2. not to rebel against the nations of the world, 3.not to attempt to end the exile with their own actions.

During exile, Jews were commanded by the prophet Jeremiah (29:7), "Seek the peace of the city where I have exiled you, and pray to the Almighty on its behalf, for with its peace you will have peace." Jews were to be loyal to their governments and not entertain any thoughts of rebellion.

A large part of the Jewish people spent centuries of
their exile living under Muslim governments of North Africa and the Middle East, including Palestine. The relations between the Jews and Muslims in these countries were historically very good. The Jews were loyal citizens, and their religion, culture and scholarly tradition flourished.

What is Zion and what is Zionism?
Zion is a name used in the Torah for Jerusalem. Zionism is the name adopted by a movement of non- religious Jews founded in the 1890s, whose goal was to transform the meaning of a Jew and to revolutionize the course of Jewish history. Their goal was to transform the meaning of Judaism from spirituality, religion and holiness, into base materialism, nationalism and altogether removing the Almighty from the equation. They proposed a political and military solution to what they saw as the “problem of exile.” They advocated mass Jewish immigration to Palestine, without regard to the rights of Palestine’s non-Jewish population. They armed themselves and learned military tactics in preparation for a war of conquest. And they claimed that adherence to their movement alone was the criterion for being a Jew – it did not matter whether a person believed in the Almighty and His Torah.

In 1948, the Zionists achieved their goal and founded a state in Palestine. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were expelled or frightened away from their homes and not allowed to return. Using their absorption system for new immigrants and their educational system for children, the Zionists brainwashed millions of Jews into believing in their new order. Even in the religious community Zionism made inroads, convincing some Jews that the Jewish exile could be ended by military force. Other methods utilized by the Zionists, where fear mongering and creating panic, that the Arabs hate Jews like the Nazis and “will drive all the Jews into the sea”, basically a second holocaust. Thank the Almighty, a significant segment of Jews haven’t fallen prey to Zionism and they continue to keep the laws of the Torah and stand in total opposition to Zionism and the State of “Israel”.

more at link
[link to www.nkusa.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34597640

Stop spreading your fucking bullshit.

Judaism as a racial, terroristic, anti-Gentile doctrine has its foundations in the Torah.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34588149

For you i have another beautiful gem on the golden chain of Truth, my lovely friend and zionist supporter ...

ZIONISM: The Real Enemy of the Jews. A must see video!!!

Alan Hart - Zionism is the real enemy of Jews

Here some more infos about Alan Hart, the author/lecturer and his book:

Manchester, England. 2nd November 2006. Alan Hart speaks at a public meeting of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign (PSC). He speaks about his two volume book “Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews”.

The original venue, St Peter’s Chaplaincy, informed PSC that it was unwilling to host the meeting–2 days before the event–despite the fact that the booking had been paid for many weeks in advance. Anticipating this, the PSC booked a reserve venue–the Friends Meeting House.

This is the first of four 10 minute clips of Hart’s opening presentation.

Alan Hart, a young 63, has been engaged with events in the Middle East and their global consequences and terrifying implications - the possibility of a Clash of Civilisations, Judeo-Christian v Islamic, and, along the way, another great turning against the Jews - for nearly 40 years: * As a correspondent for ITN’s News At Ten and the BBC’s Panorama programme (covering wars and conflicts wherever they were taking place in the world). * As a researcher and author. (His first book Arafat, Terrorist or Peacemaker? was published by Sidgwick & Jackson in 1984 and subsequently in several updated editions over a decade). * As a participant at leadership level, working to a Security Council background briefing, in the covert diplomacy of the search for peace.

Alan Hart thus brings to the pages of his latest book, Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews, and to the debating chamber, a deep understanding of why, really, the Countdown to Armageddon is on and how it can be stopped.
He’s been to war with the Israelis and the Arabs but the learning experience he values most, and which he believes gave him rare insight, came from his one-to-one private conversations over the years with many leaders on both sides of the conflict. With, for example, Golda Meir, Mother Israel, and Yasser Arafat, Father Palestine. The significance of these private conversations was that they enabled Alan to be aware of the truth of what leaders really believed and feared as opposed to what they said in public for propaganda and myth-sustaining purposes.

It was because of his special relationships with leaders on both sides that, in 1980, Alan found himself sucked into the covert diplomacy of conflict resolution. President Carter had been prevented by Prime Minister Begin from involving the PLO in the peace process, an opening made possible because Arafat had signalled, secretly and seriously, that he was ready to make peace with an Israel inside more or less its pre-1967 borders. Carter was in despair and said, in private, that events had once again proved that it was impossible to advance the peace process by institutional diplomacy (because of the pork-barrel nature of American politics and the Zionist lobby’s awesome influence). It was then suggested to AH that he should undertake an unofficial, covert diplomatic mission to get an exploratory dialogue going between Arafat and Peres, with AH initially the linkman. The assumption at the time was that Peres would win Israel’s next election and deny Begin a second term…. The initiative was funded by a small number of wealthy British Jews led by Marcus Sieff (the Chairman of Marks and Spencer) with the approval of Lord Victor Rothschild…. It happened and enough progress was made to get Peres and Arafat into public dialogue in the event of Peres winning the 1981 election. Unfortunately, and against all expectations, he did not. (Full story of this initiative in Chapter 35 - The Blood Oath).

In the course of this mission AH learned two things. The first was the truth about the miracle of Arafat’s leadership - his success in persuading his side (most of it) to be ready for unthinkable compromise with Israel for peace. (Which was why Alan wrote his first book). The second was why it is difficult to impossible for any Israeli prime minister, even a rational, well-motivated one, to make peace on any terms the Palestinians can accept.

A decade later, Alan’s initiative became the Oslo process, which might have delivered peace if Prime Minister Rabin had not been assassinated by a gut-Zionist.

Alan has long believed that what peacemaking needs above all else is some TRUTH-TELLING, about many things but, especially, the difference between Zionist mythology and real history, and, the difference between Jews and Judaism on the one hand and Zionists and Zionism on the other. (The Zionism of the title and substance of Alan’s latest book is, of course, political Zionism or Jewish nationalism as the creating and sustaining force of the Zionist state, not what could be called the spiritual Zionism of Judaism).

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