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Are you referring to John 2? Did Mary turn the water into wine in your version of the Bible?
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Yes... to the first... No to the second...
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I dont see where it gives an excuse to pray to Mary because of anything in John 2. Enlighten us please.
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You dont have to understand it... You dont have to pray to Mary... For a Catholic, Mary told the servants "do whatever he tells you?" She knew her son would answer her? Take that for what you will...
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Sure, Mary had faith. Paul had faith too, do you have a 'hail Paul' to be recited also?
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Are you referring to John 2? Did Mary turn the water into wine in your version of the Bible?
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Yes... to the first... No to the second...
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I dont see where it gives an excuse to pray to Mary because of anything in John 2. Enlighten us please.
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You dont have to understand it... You dont have to pray to Mary... For a Catholic, Mary told the servants "do whatever he tells you?" She knew her son would answer her? Take that for what you will...
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You conveniently leave out the first part.
Mary had not yet acknowledged publicly her son was
really GODs annointed firstborn in heaven and only begotton son on Earth.
Yet, when it pleased her to use his supernatural abilities
she asked that of him that he turn the water into wine.
He whirled around on her and asked, "What have I to do with YOU, woman"?
But, he gave in and as the host, he performed the miracle, not for her sake but as to be 'witnessed' by those present.
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This pope has protected pedophile priests from the law. How can you be right with GOD and yet defend these pedophiles?
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Pedos are in EVERY church....everywhere..... They will go where there are children and where they will be least expected. Porn corrupts their souls....expect more of them.
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All the churches have morality problems equally just check the insurers of morality claims. The Catholic church had no problems till VatII, and unauthorized conclave, let homosexual candidates into the seminaries.ALL of these claims are GAY predators who flooded in to hide and prey.
Benedict immediately cleaned out those, most were in the USA, and the womens liberal nuns, too. good!

IF you can read, its all in AA-1024 which Bella Dodd testified was the plan to destroy the Catholic church.It goes back further to Leo XIII,who overheard the devil telling Jesus he would destroy the church if he had 100 years. It was allowed. Leo wrote a long and short version prayer against the devil to be said daily. First thing vatii tossed out.

By the way, the inquisition barely happened historically and the facts are grossley distorted. Whatever civilizations and peace and the crusades to push back moslems were in europe, the catholic church did. The free hospitals, architecture, patrons of art, free schools, university for men and women, orphanages,etc.

Ever wonder why the Baptists or the lutherans etc are never persecuted? Because the Devil knows for 1500yrs there was NO other christian church."..thou art peter and upon this rock I build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it" JESUS founded ONE church, 2000 years ago. All others are 500yrs or younger and founded by men.
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Yes... to the first... No to the second...
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I dont see where it gives an excuse to pray to Mary because of anything in John 2. Enlighten us please.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9142675


You dont have to understand it... You dont have to pray to Mary... For a Catholic, Mary told the servants "do whatever he tells you?" She knew her son would answer her? Take that for what you will...
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You conveniently leave out the first part.
Mary had not yet acknowledged publicly her son was
really GODs annointed firstborn in heaven and only begotton son on Earth.
Yet, when it pleased her to use his supernatural abilities
she asked that of him that he turn the water into wine.
He whirled around on her and asked, "What have I to do with YOU, woman"?
But, he gave in and as the host, he performed the miracle, not for her sake but as to be 'witnessed' by those present.
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Stupid catholics call mother mary the mother of god.Pure blasphemy.I could go on and on,but it's fucking tiresome arguing with a brainwashed catholic stooge like this.Renounce your false religion and come out of her for she is the whore of babylon.
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This pope has protected pedophile priests from the law. How can you be right with GOD and yet defend these pedophiles?
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Pedos are in EVERY church....everywhere..... They will go where there are children and where they will be least expected. Porn corrupts their souls....expect more of them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34572263


All the churches have morality problems equally just check the insurers of morality claims. The Catholic church had no problems till VatII, and unauthorized conclave, let homosexual candidates into the seminaries.ALL of these claims are GAY predators who flooded in to hide and prey.
Benedict immediately cleaned out those, most were in the USA, and the womens liberal nuns, too. good!

IF you can read, its all in AA-1024 which Bella Dodd testified was the plan to destroy the Catholic church.It goes back further to Leo XIII,who overheard the devil telling Jesus he would destroy the church if he had 100 years. It was allowed. Leo wrote a long and short version prayer against the devil to be said daily. First thing vatii tossed out.

By the way, the inquisition barely happened historically and the facts are grossley distorted. Whatever civilizations and peace and the crusades to push back moslems were in europe, the catholic church did. The free hospitals, architecture, patrons of art, free schools, university for men and women, orphanages,etc.

Ever wonder why the Baptists or the lutherans etc are never persecuted? Because the Devil knows for 1500yrs there was NO other christian church."..thou art peter and upon this rock I build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it" JESUS founded ONE church, 2000 years ago. All others are 500yrs or younger and founded by men.
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Deflection technique.Duly noted.propoganda
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Why? Because we have to put up with that filthy vile Catholic church that once slaughtered us by the millions during The Inquisition. Which, as a matter of fact, is not over. The Papal bull that started it all of has never been rescinded. It's still in effect, lying dormant for the day they some filthy pig pope decides to start it all up again.

We have an interest in this too. A very deep interest.
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Yes, but the Protestant church is created from this....so there is no separation. If you are against one, you better be against the other.
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By the way, the inquisition barely happened historically and the facts are grossley distorted. Whatever civilizations and peace and the crusades to push back moslems were in europe, the catholic church did. The free hospitals, architecture, patrons of art, free schools, university for men and women, orphanages,etc. bsflag the inquisition barely happened?Please.
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Why? Because we have to put up with that filthy vile Catholic church that once slaughtered us by the millions during The Inquisition. Which, as a matter of fact, is not over. The Papal bull that started it all of has never been rescinded. It's still in effect, lying dormant for the day they some filthy pig pope decides to start it all up again.

We have an interest in this too. A very deep interest.
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Yes, but the Protestant church is created from this....so there is no separation. If you are against one, you better be against the other.
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Leave it alone... Your NOT catholic move along!!! Catholics dont care to talk about Baptists, Lutherans, or Joe Piscopo's so why you so eager to talk about their church? You believe what you want and they will be believe what they want...
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Because as protestants, we try to rise above the close minded and intolerant attitude sponsored by the Papal ecumenal church which is evident in people like you. Catholics always cast the first stone. We realize that there is indeed a world around us, and globalist organizations like the Vatican have a long history of initiating genocide and countless false doctrines. Thats why. Why do you worship the Pope?
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Why? Because we have to put up with that filthy vile Catholic church that once slaughtered us by the millions during The Inquisition. Which, as a matter of fact, is not over. The Papal bull that started it all of has never been rescinded. It's still in effect, lying dormant for the day they some filthy pig pope decides to start it all up again.

We have an interest in this too. A very deep interest.
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Yes, but the Protestant church is created from this....so there is no separation. If you are against one, you better be against the other.
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Protestants got the fuck away from the lying deceiving satan loving catholic church.The only thing us protestants have to do is repent and accept the lord Jesus Christ as our Saviour.Catholics don't do that.
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Why? Because we have to put up with that filthy vile Catholic church that once slaughtered us by the millions during The Inquisition. Which, as a matter of fact, is not over. The Papal bull that started it all of has never been rescinded. It's still in effect, lying dormant for the day they some filthy pig pope decides to start it all up again.

We have an interest in this too. A very deep interest.
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Prophecy of the popes. It all ties in with the end times. Get right with God everyone! thats why this is a big deal to us. I am a Christian and i follow the vatican very closely. Keep you eyes towards the sky brothers and sisters javascript:doSmilie(':hf:');
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Where'd op go.Looks like it changed ip's because it was getting it's ass kicked.bump
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Has nothing to do with that... It has everything to do with Protestants who come on here with their "holier than thou" attitude but are too afraid to tell us what church...

Look we ALL know the RCC has its issues and they address them... In fact, a few hundred years ago they may have given off-that holier than thou attitude... But today the church as a whole has been humbled... Most "fair-weather" catholics are long gone...
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At this point im sure you understand the second commandment is violated by the Catholic Church. Instead of admitting it, you dodge it and try to justify it still. There might not be a way to get through to you, but I give you credit for inviting the discussion.
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No... There is only one God!!!And there is no other God!
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The pope is not god.Why do you worship him as god?
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The Pope is not God, but elected in a position of authority, Vicar of Christ."A vicar is of "earthly representative of God or Christ". [link to en.wikipedia.org]

He is the head of the Church, which is the Body of Christ.

As humans, we all have a desire to be led. We have our own spiritual personal relations with the Lord, but we also need a earthly shepherd. Why do you think nearly every society has a President or King/queen and so forth.

The Pope's job is to lead the Church on Earth, where it could be a blessing to all humanity - or a curse. It depends on those in charge, such as any position of authority (think business ceo's, entrepreneurs, and etc).

The problem with the Catholic church is that it is not working with other Christian churches.

For example, Catholics have what they call "Knights of Columbus", similar to Freemasonry (for example) in it's exclusivity and male only sects. But they only allow Catholics to become members, whereas Freemasonry is open to any believer in a 'higher power or God'.

With the extreme persecution the church is facing right now, they need to open the doors for other Christian's to help or be helped.

The two churches will eventually combine, it's just hard to say what it will look like afterwards.

I for one want any suppressed 'truth' revealed to other Christian leaders that is contained within the Vatican. This would make room for building relations and trust between the churches. And help to rid of corruption, and regrettably there is corruption within. As there is in many other Christian churches.

It would be cool to electronically capture and archive every religious artifact, scroll, text... and make publicly available for the people.

I know, I kind of have went off topic.
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Re: why are protestants so eager to weigh in on the pope???
Weigh in on the Pope? Do you think it is perhaps his false ecumenical offering that will include all faiths including snake worshippers that concerns those that stand far off from this circus and know they will be the target of hatred because they will not declare "all paths lead to God" and abandon the Lord of Glory, their only hope in salvation, Jesus Christ for a mere man that claims to be God on earth?

The first Christians were killed by the Holy Roman Catholic Church because they would not join in unison and declare the Pope as the vicar of Christ, and no amount of priestcraft is able to change Jesus into a cookie. That would imply that they have control over the very God of Heaven, other than that, it is pure black magic to claim this kind of power.

Now the church of Rome declares Mary as co-redeemer, after all these years. Let it be known, all false religions worship a goddess, by whatever name.

The catholic church, states there is no salvation outside of the catholic church. So they lie in their brotherhood of man speech, calling them separated brothers rather than their preferred language, heretics

The Protestants have always claimed there is no salvation outside of the Lord Jesus Christ. See the difference.

Yes, the protestant churches have been infiltrated. But by whom? Freemasons which work for the shriners, which work for the skull and bones which work for the Jesuits, which work within the inner circle of the Vatican state, wrapped up to look like a christian institution, or as the Bible says, a wolf in sheeps clothing.

Who is it that wrote all the new and improved bible perversions? Twisting the words of God into a lie? It wasn't the Reformed faith that has stood by the KJB, Tyndale, these books were translated into the common language of the people, much blood was shed to enlighten the people so they could read what God says, instead of being held hostage by a "priesthood of red robed men" that only spoke the words of God to the people in a dead language. Forever interpreting the words of God to keep the people hopeless for a personal relationship with their savior, forever having to go to a priest man that would intercede for them through God.

Praise God for the glorious Reformation. No middleman need apply, for their is only one mediator between God and man, The Lord God and Savior, Jesus Christ.

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Re: why are protestants so eager to weigh in on the pope???
Why? Because we have to put up with that filthy vile Catholic church that once slaughtered us by the millions during The Inquisition. Which, as a matter of fact, is not over. The Papal bull that started it all of has never been rescinded. It's still in effect, lying dormant for the day they some filthy pig pope decides to start it all up again.

We have an interest in this too. A very deep interest.
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Prophecy of the popes. It all ties in with the end times. Get right with God everyone! thats why this is a big deal to us. I am a Christian and i follow the vatican very closely. Keep you eyes towards the sky brothers and sisters javascript:doSmilie(':hf:');
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Yes it ties in,but with the antichrist.Rome and the Vatican will be destroyed along with the synagogue of satan and all workers of iniquity.
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Re: why are protestants so eager to weigh in on the pope???
Weigh in on the Pope? Do you think it is perhaps his false ecumenical offering that will include all faiths including snake worshippers that concerns those that stand far off from this circus and know they will be the target of hatred because they will not declare "all paths lead to God" and abandon the Lord of Glory, their only hope in salvation, Jesus Christ for a mere man that claims to be God on earth?

The first Christians were killed by the Holy Roman Catholic Church because they would not join in unison and declare the Pope as the vicar of Christ, and no amount of priestcraft is able to change Jesus into a cookie. That would imply that they have control over the very God of Heaven, other than that, it is pure black magic to claim this kind of power.

Now the church of Rome declares Mary as co-redeemer, after all these years. Let it be known, all false religions worship a goddess, by whatever name.

The catholic church, states there is no salvation outside of the catholic church. So they lie in their brotherhood of man speech, calling them separated brothers rather than their preferred language, heretics

The Protestants have always claimed their is no salvation outside of the Lord Jesus Christ. See the difference.

Yes, the protestant churches have been infiltrated. But by whom? Freemasons which work for the shriners, which work for the skull and bones which work for the Jesuits, which work within the inner circle of the Vatican state, wrapped up to look like a christian institution, or as the Bible says, a wolf in sheeps clothing.

Who is it that wrote all the new and improved bible perversions? Twisting the words of God into a lie? It wasn't the Reformed faith that has stood by the KJB, Tyndale, these books were translated into the common language of the people, much blood was shed to enlighten the people so they could read what God says, instead of being held hostage by a "priesthood of red robed men" that only spoke the words of God to the people in a dead language. Forever interpreting the words of God to keep the people hopeless for a personal relationship with their savior, forever having to go to a priest man that would intercede for them through God.

Praise God for the glorious Reformation. No middleman need apply, for their is only one mediator between God and man, The Lord God and Savior, Jesus Christ.
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Re: why are protestants so eager to weigh in on the pope???
Why? Because we have to put up with that filthy vile Catholic church that once slaughtered us by the millions during The Inquisition. Which, as a matter of fact, is not over. The Papal bull that started it all of has never been rescinded. It's still in effect, lying dormant for the day they some filthy pig pope decides to start it all up again.

We have an interest in this too. A very deep interest.
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There were certainly not "millions" of you to slaughter at that time! Gross exaggeration.

Catholics don't even evangelize so trust me, you're safe. No one cares what you believe any more but do leave others in the same peace.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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Leave it alone... Your NOT catholic move along!!! Catholics dont care to talk about Baptists, Lutherans, or Joe Piscopo's so why you so eager to talk about their church? You believe what you want and they will be believe what they want...
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Catholics voted for Obama.

The deserve much abuse for this alone.

[link to www.theblaze.com]

Protestants, like the denominations you mentioned, did not, so they deserve respect:
[link to www.theblaze.com]
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Well, 48% of Catholics did NOT vote for Obama. And there is no clear pattern of liberal voting among members of the RCC. There was no landslide with barely a majority voting for Obama, less than the general population in fact:

Quote:

Exit polls from the highly-contentious 2012 presidential race show that Obama captured 50 percent of this coveted cohort, with Romney taking 48 percent of adherents. In the end, it was close — but the results likely weren’t what some conservative Catholics hoped they would be.

While some may wonder why gauging Catholics at the polls is important, as Irish Central notes, since 1972, the majority (or largest proportion) of this cohort has gone with the winning presidential candidate (at least based on popular vote); now, that pattern continues.


To just note a few past examples: Ronald Reagan won 50 percent of the Catholic vote in 1980, with Jimmy Carter getting only 42 percent. In 2000, Al Gore won 50 percent of the Catholic vote versus Bush taking just 46 percent (this election was a bit of an anomaly, of course). And in 2004, Bush won 52 percent of the vote, with John Kerry taking 47 percent
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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Re: why are protestants so eager to weigh in on the pope???
Why? Because we have to put up with that filthy vile Catholic church that once slaughtered us by the millions during The Inquisition. Which, as a matter of fact, is not over. The Papal bull that started it all of has never been rescinded. It's still in effect, lying dormant for the day they some filthy pig pope decides to start it all up again.

We have an interest in this too. A very deep interest.
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There were certainly not "millions" of you to slaughter at that time! Gross exaggeration.

Catholics don't even evangelize so trust me, you're safe. No one cares what you believe any more but do leave others in the same peace.
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You're right, they don't evangelize, they just infiltrate by false bibles, false ministers, and false brotherhood
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This pope has protected pedophile priests from the law. How can you be right with GOD and yet defend these pedophiles?
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Pedos are in EVERY church....everywhere..... They will go where there are children and where they will be least expected. Porn corrupts their souls....expect more of them.
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The vatican is a criminal, pedophile organization that must be stripped of all it's unholy powers, for the good of humanity!
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Because it is a disgusting blasphemy how people worship that man as if he was god's agent on earth, and then go around lording it over everyone else, trying to tell us what to do, and it is evil the way he and his minions carry on defrauding gullible people, fucking and murdering children then covering it up and complaining if anyone mentions it ... the list goes on and on ...
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Re: why are protestants so eager to weigh in on the pope???
Protestants can only agree on one thing, to attack the
faith, the reason there are constant daily anti-Catholic threads.

With their Sola Scriptura and "private judgment", what do
you expect? No authority, you get to decide.

If they would look at the quotes of the first Christians,
forget Scripture, they think every person reading the Bible
has the authority to interpret it.

Jesus said do all I command of you not it's fine to disagree and/or reject My teachings.


~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~

March 4, 2011 [link to www.catholicnick.blogspot.com]


List of teachings Protestants cannot agree upon due to Sola Scriptura
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The following is a 'open' list of teachings (subject to further expansion) which Protestants cannot agree upon due to the doctrinal relativism caused by Sola Scriptura. Though many Protestants today would "solve" this problem by tossing a lot of these into the "non-essential" category, I believe the doctrinal issues I've mentioned have been clearly seen to cause division among Protestants:


Once Saved Always Saved

Universal versus Limited Atonement

Infant Baptism

Form of Baptism (e.g. full immersion vs pouring

Whether Baptism is necessary in ordinary circumstances

Whether the Lord's Supper is purely symbolic or some sort of 'real' presence

Divorce and Remarriage

Whether icons/pictures of Christ are allowed

Which doctrines are perspicuous/essential

Whether Charismatic Gifts of the Spirit have ceased

Whether instruments are allowed in church
Female ordination

The "biblical" form of church government

Sunday versus any day worship / Whether the Sabbath is still in force in some sense.

House churches versus dedicated congregational churches

Dispensationalism

Rapture/Tribulation

Imputed Active Obedience

Whether traditional categories like Person/Nature are true/valid

Mary being "Mother of God"

Mary's Perpetual Virginity

Whether Inspiration of Scripture is plenary or limited to faith and morals

Whether one can/should pray to the Holy Spirit

Whether Sola Scriptura applied during the time of Christ and the Apostles

How to define/understand Sola Scriptura, especially as it relates to Creeds and Councils

Should Christians engage in politics, civil service, etc.

Whether Christians should pray the Our Father

Whether prayer should be only spontaneous

Whether keeping the Commandments is necessary for salvation

Whether illness, suffering, poverty, etc, are due to sin or lack of faith

Whether Free Will and Double Predestination are true or not

Whether Mark 16:9-20, John 8:1-11, etc, are actually part of Scripture

Which translation of Scripture should be normative (e.g. KJV)

Which Protestant denominations are to be considered "Christian"
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Re: why are protestants so eager to weigh in on the pope???
Protestants can only agree on one thing, to attack the
faith, the reason there are constant daily anti-Catholic threads.

With their Sola Scriptura and "private judgment", what do
you expect? No authority, you get to decide.

If they would look at the quotes of the first Christians,
forget Scripture, they think every person reading the Bible
has the authority to interpret it.

Jesus said do all I command of you not it's fine to disagree and/or reject My teachings.


~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~

March 4, 2011 [link to www.catholicnick.blogspot.com]


List of teachings Protestants cannot agree upon due to Sola Scriptura
.

The following is a 'open' list of teachings (subject to further expansion) which Protestants cannot agree upon due to the doctrinal relativism caused by Sola Scriptura. Though many Protestants today would "solve" this problem by tossing a lot of these into the "non-essential" category, I believe the doctrinal issues I've mentioned have been clearly seen to cause division among Protestants:


Once Saved Always Saved

Universal versus Limited Atonement

Infant Baptism

Form of Baptism (e.g. full immersion vs pouring

Whether Baptism is necessary in ordinary circumstances

Whether the Lord's Supper is purely symbolic or some sort of 'real' presence

Divorce and Remarriage

Whether icons/pictures of Christ are allowed

Which doctrines are perspicuous/essential

Whether Charismatic Gifts of the Spirit have ceased

Whether instruments are allowed in church
Female ordination

The "biblical" form of church government

Sunday versus any day worship / Whether the Sabbath is still in force in some sense.

House churches versus dedicated congregational churches

Dispensationalism

Rapture/Tribulation

Imputed Active Obedience

Whether traditional categories like Person/Nature are true/valid

Mary being "Mother of God"

Mary's Perpetual Virginity

Whether Inspiration of Scripture is plenary or limited to faith and morals

Whether one can/should pray to the Holy Spirit

Whether Sola Scriptura applied during the time of Christ and the Apostles

How to define/understand Sola Scriptura, especially as it relates to Creeds and Councils

Should Christians engage in politics, civil service, etc.

Whether Christians should pray the Our Father

Whether prayer should be only spontaneous

Whether keeping the Commandments is necessary for salvation

Whether illness, suffering, poverty, etc, are due to sin or lack of faith

Whether Free Will and Double Predestination are true or not

Whether Mark 16:9-20, John 8:1-11, etc, are actually part of Scripture

Which translation of Scripture should be normative (e.g. KJV)

Which Protestant denominations are to be considered "Christian"
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Hey OP! 99 percent of PROTESTants I've ever tried to have an intelligent conversation with just sit there and drool. They truly are confounded by these truths because it takes to much thinking and actual work than "However I interpret everything is how God meant it to be and once I ask Him into my heart I'm saved forever and can become a judgemental know it all." It's hopeless. I've even pointed out the verse in Second Peter warning of personal interpretation but even then sola sriptura flies out the window. It is really all too confusing.pope
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Re: why are protestants so eager to weigh in on the pope???
Personally I'm glad he's a Jesuit.

If Jesuits are even half the hype that I hear, he's just what the world's largest church needs.

But I'll be mad as fuck if this man things Jesus is the Sun God or some kind of outlandish esoteric bullshit, but he's going to teach and peach to the slaves something entirely different. That's not what it should be about. Jesus was a human being and that's what churches teach and that's what church leaders should believe.

*humble grumble mumble*
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Re: why are protestants so eager to weigh in on the pope???
Also, NO CHURCH IS DOING IT RIGHT.

The Levitical Law IS STILL in effect. No church is even TRYING to build an altar into The Most High that is undefiled and not cut with tools.

NOBODY GIVES A FUCK!!!

I'm seriously considering making a pile of rocks around a bunch of sticks just so I can sacrifice a sparrow for my guilt offering just so God can have a traditional sacrifice for sin.

I know I have to drain the blood first, but should I skin it? Often sacrifices would be eaten. I bet it smells really delicious to roast a bird for our God.
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Re: why are protestants so eager to weigh in on the pope???
Also, NO CHURCH IS DOING IT RIGHT.

The Levitical Law IS STILL in effect. No church is even TRYING to build an altar into The Most High that is undefiled and not cut with tools.

NOBODY GIVES A FUCK!!!

I'm seriously considering making a pile of rocks around a bunch of sticks just so I can sacrifice a sparrow for my guilt offering just so God can have a traditional sacrifice for sin.

I know I have to drain the blood first, but should I skin it? Often sacrifices would be eaten. I bet it smells really delicious to roast a bird for our God.
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Ummmmm.....Church of the Purple Squirrel. .......Christ's death took care of the Levitical law. That was kinda the point of His existence and life. New Treatment replacing the laws of the Old Testament. jerkit
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Re: why are protestants so eager to weigh in on the pope???
Also, NO CHURCH IS DOING IT RIGHT.

The Levitical Law IS STILL in effect. No church is even TRYING to build an altar into The Most High that is undefiled and not cut with tools.

NOBODY GIVES A XXX!!!

I'm seriously considering making a pile of rocks around a bunch of sticks just so I can sacrifice a sparrow for my guilt offering just so God can have a traditional sacrifice for sin.

I know I have to drain the blood first, but should I skin it? Often sacrifices would be eaten. I bet it smells really delicious to roast a bird for our God.
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Ummmmm.....Church of the Purple Squirrel. .......Christ's death took care of the Levitical law. That was kinda the point of His existence and life. New Treatment replacing the laws of the Old Testament.
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Very well said...

One faith, so one Church. The rest are breakaways or non-
Christian. Remember, Our Lord promised, Hell will not
overcome My Church (singular) Matt 16-18. Men are sinners but the faith, Roman Catholicism is true and will never change.

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