why are protestants so eager to weigh in on the pope???

It is from this site... [link to www.chocd.org]

But hey at least you have enough to tell us your denomonation, every other one on here is too chicken too!

But read the ending, from another site:

Well, the government has never interfered before so why worry about it? This question is totally irrelevant to the problem. It is not a matter of whether or not the state has taken any action, but they have the power to step in at any time they so desire.

Another matter that is being subtlety placed before the general public via the media is, churches should share their responsibility in caring for the poor and homeless. The government will cost share this heavy expense with churches if they are a political subdivision. The government has every right to demand payment whenever they please.

The church of our Lord Jesus Christ is holy and answers only to her head or her husband! In answer to the question, no one has the right to forfeit the sovereignty of the church to anyone and that includes the state. Amen. Any church who has violated the sacredness of God's Holy Writ is no longer his, but wards of the state.
[link to www.thewholetruthnow.com]

My point is not against your particualar denomonation...

Our three biggest concerns about the church of Christ denomination is their claim to be the only true Christians, their rejection of the present day ministry of the Holy Spirit and their hyper-legalism. I can relate to and attest to the burden of that legalism, for it was while I was a preacher in the Church of Christ that I committed suicide. The Lord miraculously saved me and set my feet on the path of true salvation by Grace through Faith.

I had been a member of the CoC for several years before I started preaching. One of the Elders had been tutoring me and asked for me to fill in for him one day and things just took off from there. The problem was that I studied the Scriptures with an opened mind rather than through CoC stained lenses. So I began to ask questions:

"How did the thief on the cross get to heaven without being baptized?"

"How did Cornelius get saved before he was water baptized?"

"Why did Paul say that the Lord did not send him to baptise but to preach the Gospel?"

"Why do we forbid to speak in tongues?"

"Why do we reject musical instruments if God never said to?"

"Why do we teach that we are the only true Christians?"

"Why do we never talk about the Holy Spirit when he is mentioned on virtually every page of the New Testament?"

The list goes on and on. The problem was that I wasn't getting any answers. Sure, they gave me the typical CoC answers, but they were not Biblical or even logical.

But your church has all type of engraved images, in direct violation of the second amendment, which you conveniently TOOK OUT of the Bible...

You must not have heard of the Greek Septuagint, or the Dead Sea Scrolls. They predate the latin vulgate and Origen by hundreds of years..

So what is your church/denomonimation?

*second commandment not amendment..

NEW TESTAMENT

What's your point?

An evil person, cleary. Disgusting. VERY.

But what does that have to do with DOCTRINE? The Catholic Church's man made doctrine, evil throughout history, etc that I've outlined in my other posts. No comments there?

You're wanting to lash out at those who have been calling the Pope a pedo? Well...so far I haven't even touched on that (NO PUN INTENDED). I've only been discussing doctrine.


Oh and if you're wanting to compare scandals, I imagine the THOUSANDS of scandals in the Catholic Church point to a bigger problem among the church itself, than you digging up a random single episode of an evil person in another ministry. Am I disgusted, yes. You failed to make your point if you think finding an instance of evil in one church is the same as the widespread problems within the Catholic Church, and not just with child molestation.

Anyone with this much hate in their heart is not from Jesus. All western churches are based from the catholic faith. That didnt change until a king in england wanted a younger and hotter wife and wasnt granted a divorce because of what Jesus had said in the bible. So he decided to change the bible and start his own church.

See even among Protestants, you all fight with each other...

I believe in the Bible strictly. If Catholics did too, they wouldnt take out an entire commandment. They also wouldnt allow priests to absolve peoples sins in place of Jesus' sacrifice. That is heretical teaching.

I'm sure there a lot of solid Christians in the Catholic church, but Rome is the end-times center stage for the appostate church. Rome ruled most of the known world at one point and the direct geopolitical descendent of that former beast empire is the Vatican. Doesn't matter what denomination you chose to follow, the seat of power of the catholic church is worth watching and important developements and decisions worth noting. Even by it's own catholic "prophecy" of popes by St Malachy, the next pope is to be the last. So yeah, anybody with a brain and honest spiritual insight should be interested in what is happening with the head of the catholic church right now.

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Which was translated by Tyndale in the 1500s, to english from the GREEK SEPTUAGINT. Look it up.

what's with the silly costumes, and bad acting?

The prophecies within the church are for bible-believing Catholics to understand the times!

To be clear, which version of the New Testament were you talking about? Are you aware there are 100+ different versions of the Bible?

That's putting it mildly! (omigod)

You mean, the prophecies within the BIBLE are for Bible-believing Christians to understand the times?

I think all of you religious people are a bunch of dumbass, freakishly stupid, moronic, lame-brained, self-righteous, sexually confused, idiotic, unintelligent, holier-than-thou, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid motherfuckers. You're tearing this world apart, you're a disgrace to the human race and your made-up religious bullshit is what is most responsible for the downfall of human civilization.

If human beings can't move past the absolutely STUPIDITY of religious fantasies, the human race is doomed.

This is the future on religion:

My point is that there are scandals in every church!! You at least admitted to your denomonation... Most on here wouldn't because they know they are not perfect either!

OP, I encourage you to actually check the Bible on whatever you're talking about. Deferring to a pope, or priest, or church, while ignoring the Bible, seems mistaken to me.

And whats your religion, billions of years and a primordial soup? Please spare us.

Are you a bible believing catholic? What do the catholic prophecies tell you? Would this information not be important for everyone know, be forwarned, and heed the warning signs of the comming apocalypse?

I always do... If it is not biblical, I stay away from it... The entire mass is biblical!

Don't know if you're talking to me, or the poster I asked if they were a corporation. I have no denomination. Seems they all lie and deceive, criticize others for the same things they do and rake in the money, and only giving lip service to God.

I don't see how a corporation is following the Bible. Doesn't it say Christ is the head of the church? Just a couple of scriptures that seem that a corporation, by merit of the legal definition that, "The State is the sole authority and sovereign head over the corporation" would disqualify that religion.

No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
-Matthew 6:24

For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies... Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
-Revelation 18:3-4

And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.
Colossians 1:18

Regardless, I'm enjoying your thread.

You keep ignoring my mention of the second commandment, conveniently..Thoughts?

Great points!!! All I am trying to point out is that every church/denomonation is going to have its scandals/problems... Catholics get ganged up on because we are out in front.. Jesus Christ is the true church...