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Wow! ....China‘s new aircraft carrier ..
Definitely a “blue-water” long reach vessel. Plus they can service their nuke sub fleet in-between the twin hulls ( sight unseen ) or even launch amphibious opps from same.


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Dumb americans read this and think " how cool.". But they are witnessing their collapse and the rise of the future world leader. Are they so stupid to think that one day China will not enforce their rule over the whole earth?
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Looks like a pic from a video game.
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why bite the hand that feeds you.
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That aint nothin!

We have pop culture, pop stars, and pop!

We have country full of egomaniacs who think they're the next "big thing".

China aint got shit on us

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Re: Wow! ....China‘s new aircraft carrier ..
They are not building that thing, it's a concept/study, nothing more. The pictures you posted are from July 2011.
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Nice concept version. I'll get a bit more excited once it's completed sea trials.
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looks crappy
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One of the worst photoshop work I ever seen.


U.S. will be replaced as world leader when China will have enough military to INVADE U.S.

Probably in about 70 years, but ONLY IF U.S. just stops every $ to be invested in the military.
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That peice of shit is nothing compared to the USS George H.W. Bush, or the USS Ronald Reagan.


Bring it bitches.
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Off topic a little...

China Now Using a Cruise Ship to Haul Troops and Tanks..

[link to www.wired.com]
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If they start producing "that shit", they will have 10 of them in a few years. Military budget is not a concern for them... And since almost every component of US carriers comes from China, they can/will be at least equal to US carriers.
From these pictures, it's maritime performance would be superb compared to old design US carriers.
Be realistic, China has access to all modern technologies.
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AirCraft carriers are obsolete weapons used only by powerful nations against other nations too weak to fight back. That China would have something like this says a lot about their intent, and also their stupidity.

An air craft carrier can quickly and easily be turned into a smouldering coffin and sent to the ocean floor with maybe two or three hypersonic missile strikes of which there is absolutely no defense. They are nothing more than giant sitting ducks, and that includes those air craft carriers in the US fleet. They are slow, large targets and easily destroyed, contrary to bombastic claims of those who say they have defensive capability, they in fact have none against 3000 mph sea skimming missiles. The are a huge waste if military money and they needlessly endanger the lives of those who man those ships.
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Looks like a pic from a video game.
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That is because they haven't built it yet. It is nothing but an artist rendering at this point. To be clear, China has the ability to do it, but they haven't yet.
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Looks like a pic from a video game.
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this
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They're too smart to build ne of these sitting ducks in the age of stealth missiles.
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AirCraft carriers are obsolete weapons used only by powerful nations against other nations too weak to fight back. That China would have something like this says a lot about their intent, and also their stupidity.

An air craft carrier can quickly and easily be turned into a smouldering coffin and sent to the ocean floor with maybe two or three hypersonic missile strikes of which there is absolutely no defense. They are nothing more than giant sitting ducks, and that includes those air craft carriers in the US fleet. They are slow, large targets and easily destroyed, contrary to bombastic claims of those who say they have defensive capability, they in fact have none against 3000 mph sea skimming missiles. The are a huge waste if military money and they needlessly endanger the lives of those who man those ships.
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Mostly agreed... That's why the first wave in modern warfare will be led with either conventional or nuclear ICBMs and long range stealth bombers to destroy enemy's radar and surveillance capabilities, then aircraft carriers will be deployed to provide air cover and transport for invading ground forces with shorter range aircraft and helicopter assets.
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AirCraft carriers are obsolete weapons used only by powerful nations against other nations too weak to fight back. That China would have something like this says a lot about their intent, and also their stupidity.

An air craft carrier can quickly and easily be turned into a smouldering coffin and sent to the ocean floor with maybe two or three hypersonic missile strikes of which there is absolutely no defense. They are nothing more than giant sitting ducks, and that includes those air craft carriers in the US fleet. They are slow, large targets and easily destroyed, contrary to bombastic claims of those who say they have defensive capability, they in fact have none against 3000 mph sea skimming missiles. The are a huge waste if military money and they needlessly endanger the lives of those who man those ships.
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this
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These are the same computer pics I saw a couple years ago of this. You want our attention, then show real photos.
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You guys are retards just look at the US nation debt clock.
You think they owe that much money and don't have better shit?
They can fuckin teleport troops into China noobs! Wake up China may have more troops but they aint been to the moon. The US is there and has been forever not to mention all the tech they got from aliens. China fuck there little boat the US has subs bigger than that the carry jets. jets are obsolete anyways they have ah never mind.
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You guys are retards just look at the US nation debt clock.
You think they owe that much money and don't have better shit?
They can fuckin teleport troops into China noobs! Wake up China may have more troops but they aint been to the moon. The US is there and has been forever not to mention all the tech they got from aliens. China fuck there little boat the US has subs bigger than that the carry jets. jets are obsolete anyways they have ah never mind.
 Quoting: The La La 2312456


Bullshit!!! They spend all that money for corruption and filling elite's pockets with more money. Toilet seat for 5000$ and stuff... What fucking alien tech and teleportation, wake up...
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You guys are retards just look at the US nation debt clock.
You think they owe that much money and don't have better shit?
They can fuckin teleport troops into China noobs! Wake up China may have more troops but they aint been to the moon. The US is there and has been forever not to mention all the tech they got from aliens. China fuck there little boat the US has subs bigger than that the carry jets. jets are obsolete anyways they have ah never mind.
 Quoting: The La La 2312456


Bullshit!!! They spend all that money for corruption and filling elite's pockets with more money. Toilet seat for 5000$ and stuff... What fucking alien tech and teleportation, wake up...
 Quoting: tommar


You think they are gunna pay that back? Not a chance how can they? So they will war before paying that shit off. They been getting ready for years. And as far as alien tech yer just a dumb human. Thats why they hide in obscurity is from dumb humans like yourself!
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AirCraft carriers are obsolete weapons used only by powerful nations against other nations too weak to fight back. That China would have something like this says a lot about their intent, and also their stupidity.

An air craft carrier can quickly and easily be turned into a smouldering coffin and sent to the ocean floor with maybe two or three hypersonic missile strikes of which there is absolutely no defense. They are nothing more than giant sitting ducks, and that includes those air craft carriers in the US fleet. They are slow, large targets and easily destroyed, contrary to bombastic claims of those who say they have defensive capability, they in fact have none against 3000 mph sea skimming missiles. The are a huge waste if military money and they needlessly endanger the lives of those who man those ships.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31197155


Yes, they are easy targets, but that is the reason that they have an armada around them to protect them.

They provide a capability to launch air attacks globally. ithout them, bombers would always have to fly to their targets from their home country, making fuel and tactics into big problems and greatly reducing capabilities.




Iam against the military industrial complex in most cases, but I do consider China to be America;s truest enemy, and I am glad that we can stomp that ass for at least the next few decades.
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And your toilet seat quote is from what movie? Yea thats why its 5gs for a toilet seat. technology just like Independence day.
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A fake aircraft carrier to land some of those fake Iranian jets on.
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No banking in the corners, that should help with launch and retrieval while taking evasive maneuvers. I don't suppose there are hydro-foils lurking under the water.
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this is their FIRST aircraft carrier...and definetly not the same one in the drawing. from sept.2012

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Carrier's are not obsolete. They operate under the protective shield of other ships, missiles, guns & aircraft that are both above and below the surface. If it was so easy to sink a carrier, we would have lost one in recent history. But the fact is we haven't lost one in combat since ww2.

There is enough airpower on a single carrier to overcome the airpower of most nations on earth. So, its a huge advantage in times of crisis to deploy 2 or 3 aircraft carries to a particular region to secure the situation.

This is not to say that aircraft carriers can't be sunk or one won't be sunk in the future. The M1 Abrams is the best battle tested tank in the world, yet they can be destroyed but that doesn't stop us from producing them and using them to overwhelm the battlefield. The same goes with carriers. Unlike battleships, they are not obsolete and won't be in our lifetime.

In order for China to become a true Blue Water Navy, First they have to develop and deploy their carriers and then they must gain lots and lots of experience with them. In my opinion, even if China launched its first carrier this year, it would probably take a couple of decades to replace the US Navy. And in truth those carriers will only be as good as the ships, subs and aircraft that protect them.

So, in effect, China has a ways to go but is moving as we speak. The US, on the other hand, is a declining power. Our capabilities are decreasing while there's are increasing. Because of this emerging reality, I do believe we are going to be seriously challenged in the next 15 to 20 years.

China is the role model for the NWO. It represents a merger between Communism and Capitalism. Its where large Corporations give birth to governments and where the State rules over the people with an iron fist.

There are lots of people on this board who support Communism in concept because they view it as a poor man's progenitor. This view point fails the test of history. Its bad enough when Nations use their power to corrupt or overthrow other Nations but its far worse when the power of that Nation turns on itself. Something that is repetitive in Communist Nations. Governments have killed far more of its own people than all wars combined.

To this end, it is not good that a country like China is becoming the world leader. Not only do they have a proven history of killing millions upon millions of their own people but will be a terrible master on the world stage. Far worse that the United States. And I know we've done many bad things ourselves.
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Carrier's are not obsolete. They operate under the protective shield of other ships, missiles, guns & aircraft that are both above and below the surface. If it was so easy to sink a carrier, we would have lost one in recent history. But the fact is we haven't lost one in combat since ww2.
 Quoting: Squatch Hunter


That's cause none have ever been targeted by missiles like the Sunburn or Moskit.

There have been plenty of tests done with these missiles, all indications are that if they are launched towards your ship, you are as good as fucked. By the time you detect them incoming it is too late to do anything to stop them. They are just too fast, and more recent missiles combine that speed with high tech maneuver technology making them impossible to shoot down.

Falkland War was very revealing. Even less advanced and slower missiles pose great danger to ships in spite of all their so-called protections, they are all just sitting ducks ripe for turning into death traps for all aboard them.

The US Navy is well aware of this and is very careful to keep them well out of range of these missiles when possible, only the oldest and least modern carriers are sent into the Persian Gulf and it is assumed they will be destroyed if war with Iran ever breaks out while they are there. They are currently not in the Persian Gulf at all according to this recent report:

[link to www.globalpost.com]

Budget problems? lol. no, the real reasons are they do not want those carriers any where near those moskit and sunburns as sabre rattling in the region ramps up.
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Carrier's are not obsolete. They operate under the protective shield of other ships, missiles, guns & aircraft that are both above and below the surface. If it was so easy to sink a carrier, we would have lost one in recent history. But the fact is we haven't lost one in combat since ww2.

There is enough airpower on a single carrier to overcome the airpower of most nations on earth. So, its a huge advantage in times of crisis to deploy 2 or 3 aircraft carries to a particular region to secure the situation.

This is not to say that aircraft carriers can't be sunk or one won't be sunk in the future. The M1 Abrams is the best battle tested tank in the world, yet they can be destroyed but that doesn't stop us from producing them and using them to overwhelm the battlefield. The same goes with carriers. Unlike battleships, they are not obsolete and won't be in our lifetime.

In order for China to become a true Blue Water Navy, First they have to develop and deploy their carriers and then they must gain lots and lots of experience with them. In my opinion, even if China launched its first carrier this year, it would probably take a couple of decades to replace the US Navy. And in truth those carriers will only be as good as the ships, subs and aircraft that protect them.

So, in effect, China has a ways to go but is moving as we speak. The US, on the other hand, is a declining power. Our capabilities are decreasing while there's are increasing. Because of this emerging reality, I do believe we are going to be seriously challenged in the next 15 to 20 years.

China is the role model for the NWO. It represents a merger between Communism and Capitalism. Its where large Corporations give birth to governments and where the State rules over the people with an iron fist.

There are lots of people on this board who support Communism in concept because they view it as a poor man's progenitor. This view point fails the test of history. Its bad enough when Nations use their power to corrupt or overthrow other Nations but its far worse when the power of that Nation turns on itself. Something that is repetitive in Communist Nations. Governments have killed far more of its own people than all wars combined.

To this end, it is not good that a country like China is becoming the world leader. Not only do they have a proven history of killing millions upon millions of their own people but will be a terrible master on the world stage. Far worse that the United States. And I know we've done many bad things ourselves.
 Quoting: Squatch Hunter

Very well said... Thanks...hf
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Dumb americans read this and think " how cool.". But they are witnessing their collapse and the rise of the future world leader. Are they so stupid to think that one day China will not enforce their rule over the whole earth?
 Quoting: RF 22348693


They would try but would have to face 2 billion muslims, hindus and etc. Thats what the islamic/hindu/christian and buddhist prophesies say.

The rise of the dragon with army of 200 million men. uhoh I wish to live long enough to see it. :D

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