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Labor Unions Want Out of Obamacare!

 
The Dudester

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People are fucking dumb. Reap what you sow and love it you fucking idiots!
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unioners are the dumbest fucking sheeple I have ever met except maybe for catholics.They join for protection and get raped by the ones they joined and yet believe everything the union tells them.perfect fucking sheeple.
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bump
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Not only that. Union administrations employ some of the worst assholes I've ever met. Really the most rude, ignorant, and emotionless pricks work for the union admins.
"Sometimes you eat the bar, and sometimes the bar, well it eats you."
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Dirty secret...

Individuals and small business owners pay on average 18% more for health insurance coverage than

Big Government
Unions
Big Business

There you go, prepare to be raped. You are the REAL middle class. There are WAY more of you than there are union members, yet this administration constantly refers to the unions as the "middle class"... guess what it's...

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Time for small business to team up, there is power in numbers people.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ! THAT'S TOO FUNNY!
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They overwhelmingly voted for it, now the don't want what they voted for??? Hilarious. scheming
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stay poor and avoid paying

- no way to bear this heavy load of tax and thievery by our US government.

So it seems
krosty

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02/17/2013 05:06 PM
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Unions voted for Obama, not Obamacare. Romney would screw us over two fold.
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Re: Labor Unions Want Out of Obamacare!
Unions voted for Obama, not Obamacare. Romney would screw us over two fold.
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Romney is not in office nor is George Bush in case you missed it.
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02/17/2013 05:19 PM
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Why would Obama care approve human experimentation? Isn't that counter intuitive?

[link to www.washingtontimes.com]
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02/17/2013 05:22 PM
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Why would Obama care approve human experimentation? Isn't that counter intuitive?

[link to www.washingtontimes.com]
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They were approved long before Obama. Sign up here:

[link to www.clinicaltrials.gov]

Here's one for your kids:

[link to www.clinicaltrials.gov]

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02/17/2013 05:24 PM
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Re: Labor Unions Want Out of Obamacare!
Tough shit.

Unions should have to pay triple Obamacare.

They financed the fucker into office.
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Yeah. More disappointed libtards caught off-guard.

Shoulda done their research instead of just grabbin'
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Your wife (if you still have one) must be bored out of her skull by this endless repetition.

The meat of the matter is that cost of healthcare will be dumped on the states in less than 3 years now.

Walmart doesn't like unions either, which is why they can pay their employees so little they are forced to use foodstamps and who pays for those. Why your State coffers pay for them.
No of course unions were made in the first place to protect workers from unreasonably low compensation, not enough of course to avoid lack of benefits by the practice of shortened hours and schedules so irregular it is impossible to get a second job to fill the gap unless the worker quits.

Unions were created for good reasons. The fact that some have gone too far as in teacher's unions and so forth is not the point to lump it all in one bin.

Ultimately what you propose is weakening the power of your own state.
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Unions voted for Obama, not Obamacare. Romney would screw us over two fold.
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Romney is not in office nor is George Bush in case you missed it.
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Sorry. I meant would have.
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02/17/2013 05:31 PM
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At the end of the day, we are in real trouble either way. As a former paramedic, married to an RN, whose best friend is a Physician Assistant, I can assure the collapse of the healthcare system has been underway for a decade.

There is nowhere to kick the can. If Obamacare is repealed all of the same problems and economic issues remain. We don't have a decade, we don't have three years, the collapse of healthcare is here.
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Tough shit.

Unions should have to pay triple Obamacare.

They financed the fucker into office.
 Quoting: Professor Xavier


^this^
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I pledge allegiance to the unions
And to civil unrest in America
And to the Republic
I plan to destroy
Two Nations
Under funded
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With misery and poverty for all

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Tough shit.

Unions should have to pay triple Obamacare.

They financed the fucker into office.
 Quoting: Professor Xavier


^this^
 Quoting: Mr. Predictor


THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^+100000
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Tough shit.

Unions should have to pay triple Obamacare.

They financed the fucker into office.
 Quoting: Professor Xavier


^this^
 Quoting: Mr. Predictor


THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^+100000
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Unions aren't going to be paying for anything, the employer is. cool2
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Re: Labor Unions Want Out of Obamacare!
Tough shit.

Unions should have to pay triple Obamacare.

They financed the fucker into office.
 Quoting: Professor Xavier


^this^
 Quoting: Mr. Predictor


THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^+100000
 Quoting: Desert Fox


Unions aren't going to be paying for anything, the employer is. cool2
 Quoting: krosty




How many union members are government employees?

Oh yeah, THOSE union members...
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I already foreshadow a strike at my place of work. Hilarious.
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02/17/2013 05:51 PM
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^this^
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THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^+100000
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Unions aren't going to be paying for anything, the employer is. cool2
 Quoting: krosty




How many union members are government employees?

Oh yeah, THOSE union members...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23014610


Unions don't pay for shit, government or not. They negotiate a contract with the employer. The employer is bound to the contract. The contract says the employer must pay for health insurance 100%, they can't deviate from that until the contract expires, then the union asks for even more because the company is still making billions in profits. If they don't like it, we shut em down.
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Yep, my father belongs to a union, and they basically told him to vote for obummer.

They should be required to have obummer care since they love to suck those chocolatey balls so much
War, War never changes...
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At the end of the day, you'll have to be in a Labor Union to get healthcare. Book it.
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02/17/2013 05:55 PM
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So let me get this straight, you supported a bill you didn't read. You bullied and cajoled your rank and file to support it. You praised your Magic Mocha Man. And now, after you realize that you won't get jack shit in the way of healthcare under Ole Bammy Care, you want out?


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EPIC POST, OP

YOU NAILED IT
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Thank you, sir. I try to inform while I demoralize the leftists dimwits.
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A noble undertaking.
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THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^+100000
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Unions aren't going to be paying for anything, the employer is. cool2
 Quoting: krosty




How many union members are government employees?

Oh yeah, THOSE union members...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23014610


Unions don't pay for shit, government or not. They negotiate a contract with the employer. The employer is bound to the contract. The contract says the employer must pay for health insurance 100%, they can't deviate from that until the contract expires, then the union asks for even more because the company is still making billions in profits. If they don't like it, we shut em down.
 Quoting: krosty


A lot of the time the increased costs on union health funds are passed onto the employees, i.e. they take a 20 cent per hour pay cut to fund the increase. You can say the employer pays everything, but the total compensation package provided to the employees is the big picture. In a state with low union penetration, the workers have to make sure the package is competitive with the rat competition, or nobody will hire the union companies to perform any work. That's how union contractors stay in business in the south. The employees make more, and the boss man makes enough. The rats get paid shit and the boss man laughs all the way to the bank at non-union shops.
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THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^+100000
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Unions aren't going to be paying for anything, the employer is. cool2
 Quoting: krosty




How many union members are government employees?

Oh yeah, THOSE union members...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23014610


Unions don't pay for shit, government or not. They negotiate a contract with the employer. The employer is bound to the contract. The contract says the employer must pay for health insurance 100%, they can't deviate from that until the contract expires, then the union asks for even more because the company is still making billions in profits. If they don't like it, we shut em down.
 Quoting: krosty


So are you saying government unions are going to shut down the US government?

Are you suggesting that the US government has billions in profits?
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02/17/2013 06:29 PM
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Here's the story:

Unions will be forced to cover stuff under Obamacare that they were/are not covering under their current plans. That's the real reason they want out.

They knew this all along so what they want now is either an exemption from covering certain items, or government subsidies.

In the end the union will get what they want because they are in tight with the Democrats.
 Quoting: The Dudester


No. Unions only care about membership and dues.

This was the plan all along. Unions will get government subsidies to maintain their current health plans. Obamacare will suck.

This will encourage millions to join Labor Unions to get the better healthcare. It will encourage workers to agitate to Unionize their workplace. It will encourage those in "right to work" states to lobby their legislators to make Unions mandatory.

It's a long-range plan. This is part of it.
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Here's the story:

Unions will be forced to cover stuff under Obamacare that they were/are not covering under their current plans. That's the real reason they want out.

They knew this all along so what they want now is either an exemption from covering certain items, or government subsidies.

In the end the union will get what they want because they are in tight with the Democrats.
 Quoting: The Dudester


No. Unions only care about membership and dues.

This was the plan all along. Unions will get government subsidies to maintain their current health plans. Obamacare will suck.

This will encourage millions to join Labor Unions to get the better healthcare. It will encourage workers to agitate to Unionize their workplace. It will encourage those in "right to work" states to lobby their legislators to make Unions mandatory.

It's a long-range plan. This is part of it.
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We can only dream.
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Here's the story:

Unions will be forced to cover stuff under Obamacare that they were/are not covering under their current plans. That's the real reason they want out.

They knew this all along so what they want now is either an exemption from covering certain items, or government subsidies.

In the end the union will get what they want because they are in tight with the Democrats.
 Quoting: The Dudester


No. Unions only care about membership and dues.

This was the plan all along. Unions will get government subsidies to maintain their current health plans. Obamacare will suck.

This will encourage millions to join Labor Unions to get the better healthcare. It will encourage workers to agitate to Unionize their workplace. It will encourage those in "right to work" states to lobby their legislators to make Unions mandatory.

It's a long-range plan. This is part of it.
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We can only dream.
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Then it can be a worker's paradise like Russia in the 70's and 80's.
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your 'far right' Supreme court justices voted in Obamacare....
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your 'far right' Supreme court justices voted in Obamacare....
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The mental illness that is libtardism can strike anyone and anywhere.
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your 'far right' Supreme court justices voted in Obamacare....
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Actually, they ruled that the mandate was a "tax"....not a penalty.

This is problematic because the bill was started in the Senate. Tax bills cannot start in the Senate. Penalty bills can.

A lawsuit has already been filed calling this into question.

The ruling included a poison pill.