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Labor Unions Want Out of Obamacare!

 
Anonymous Coward
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02/17/2013 06:56 PM
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I've been in one going on 20yrs, back when I "organized" it just seemed the best thing for myself and young family due to the fact that the best electrical contractors in my area are signatory even in a right to work state. I'm pretty close to ending my "relationship" with the IBEW, can't stand the BS and to make matters worse they are backing gun control now.

Also I don't care what anyone's opinion is, so before you spout off about me being in the IBEW just know I don't give two shits about your opinion. I did the best thing for my family and if I had to do it over I wouldn't change a thing.
 Quoting: Will Munny



Was it 'really' the best thing? Look where we (you) are now - a country in the crapper...
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02/17/2013 07:03 PM

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Unioners HAVE insurance, and now they find out the lie, "if you have insurance that you like, you can keep it!"

only thing is insurance companies won't keep you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30978854


Yeah Obama's exact words..."If you have an insurance plan you like, you can keep it..."

Yeah you can, but it probably won't be eligible for the Obamacare Gold, Silver, or Bronze standards...which means you will get to keep your insurance, but have to pay the tax to the government as well...

THEN of course, when they start forcing insurance companies to allow people with pre-existing conditions into plans next year, and that health insurance plan you like so much will triple in cost...and you'll get to pay that too!!!
 Quoting: Saddletramp


It already has. I have had the same insurane policy through work for 5 years. 5 years ago it cost me $120/mo now it costs me $340/mo. Not to mention my office visit co-pay has doubled and my prescriptions co-pay has doubled. But I'd rather keep what I have than go to Obamacare.
"Fortune, honour, beauty, youth
are but blossoms dying.
Wanton pleasures, doting love
are but shadows flying."

---Thomas Campion
KungPowMeowMeow

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02/17/2013 07:07 PM

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The catch-22 in some cases is that some workers are forced to become a union member to get a job. With the terrible job market some people are forced to make the decision to become a union member to put food on the table for their families.
"Fortune, honour, beauty, youth
are but blossoms dying.
Wanton pleasures, doting love
are but shadows flying."

---Thomas Campion
krosty

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02/17/2013 07:07 PM
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Unions voted for Obama, not Obamacare. Romney would screw us over two fold.
 Quoting: krosty


Romney is not in office nor is George Bush in case you missed it.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


Sorry. I meant would have.
 Quoting: krosty


Trust me, illiteracy from union goons is like rain from clouds: We expect it.
 Quoting: Professor Xavier


Take out the capital on your incomplete sentence and you'll be one more step closer to literal perfection.

Rain doesn't fall from all clouds, buddy.
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02/17/2013 07:09 PM
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krosty

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02/17/2013 07:33 PM
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Sorry. I meant would have.
 Quoting: krosty


Trust me, illiteracy from union goons is like rain from clouds: We expect it.
 Quoting: Professor Xavier


Take out the capital on your incomplete sentence and you'll be one more step closer to literal perfection.

Rain doesn't fall from all clouds, buddy.
 Quoting: krosty


Illiterate of grammar and meteorology, as well as economics and business.

You're quite the gene pool shallow end, comrade.
 Quoting: Professor Xavier


It's funny you call me illiterate in grammar when you make mistakes too. How many times have you been rained on by cirrus clouds?

You also detest any worldview which is against your own by substituting logical arguments with anger and hate.

Even if I'm on the shallow end of the gene pool I'd much rather be there than live within a shallow mind such as yours.

Bickering with you sure is a great way to pass the time.
krosty

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02/17/2013 07:43 PM
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Here's something that will really piss you off!

[link to www.theblaze.com]

“Documents released in a classic Friday afternoon news dump show that labor unions representing 543,812 workers received waivers from President Barack Obama‘s signature legislation,” writes Paul Conner of the Daily Caller. “By contrast, private employers with a total of 69,813 employees, many of whom work for small businesses, were granted waivers.”

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02/17/2013 07:47 PM
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^^^^^^^Well, well, well... look who is robbing the REAL middle class???

Time to stand up and fight!

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02/17/2013 07:54 PM
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People are fucking dumb. Reap what you sow and love it you fucking idiots!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277109


I agree..........


On the other hand if/when you need expensive health care just go to a hospital get treated and pay as you can even if its only $5.00 a month!

FUCK the system back!
krosty

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02/17/2013 07:58 PM
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People are fucking dumb. Reap what you sow and love it you fucking idiots!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277109


I agree..........


On the other hand if/when you need expensive health care just go to a hospital get treated and pay as you can even if its only $5.00 a month!

FUCK the system back!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30075865


Then when you have expensive health care you can always tell your doctor to write DAW for brand name drugs. Have your insurance pay hundreds more for trivial reasons at the cost of nothing to you.
HJTRAS

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02/17/2013 08:06 PM
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[link to www.washingtontimes.com]

Major unions like the AFL-CIO and the Teamsters are now demanding that they be allowed to stay on their current health care plans and receive government subsidies to cover the increased costs some of Obamacare’s provisions will impose on lower-income workers. They want to eat their government cake and have it too. What else is new? Who would foot the bill? You guessed it: We, the taxpayers.


So let me get this straight, you supported a bill you didn't read. You bullied and cajoled your rank and file to support it. You praised your Magic Mocha Man. And now, after you realize that you won't get jack shit in the way of healthcare under Ole Bammy Care, you want out?

Well, I'd advise you to follow the link...


 Quoting: American Sith: Darth Shillerus


A little history here, my grand father (Irish catholic) was a big time union man was on the international chairman of the board for his union. He was even on Nixon's List. He fought the hard battles in the day no doubt. He and I had many union talks including my disagreement with him that democrats are your ticket. He was a democrat, he even convinced me that Jimmy Carter was a godsend. Well I didn't vote. Still had reservations about the democrats. I talked about how the Kennedys tried to take down the teamsters. Didn't matter, he was democrat through and through. My dad is now an Obama supporter and devout Catholic. He is a union man also.
So here I am a right wing anti-liberal. I went totally against my upbringing. My dad was so influenced by his father in law that a German protestant turned Devout Irish catholic. Me, I feel right wing German with little hope for any religion. So as far as Obama Care it's just a fascist left wing ploy to get more people dependent on big government and the Unions help make this hospital bed they are trying to escape from.
RAS
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02/17/2013 08:18 PM
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OBAMACARE UPDATE:
IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE!!


Health reform plan for 'uninsurables' winds down
By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR, Associated Press

WASHINGTON -- Citing financial concerns, the Obama administration has begun quietly winding down one of the earliest programs created by the president's health care overhaul, a plan that helps people with existing medical problems who can't get private insurance.

In an afternoon teleconference with state counterparts, administration officials said Friday the Pre-Existing Condition Insurance Plan, or PCIP, will stop taking new applications. People already in the plan will not lose coverage.
[link to vitals.nbcnews.com]
Anonymous Coward
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02/17/2013 08:19 PM
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The Washington Times is a Mooney paper- owned by Moon
HJTRAS

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02/17/2013 08:26 PM
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OBAMACARE UPDATE:
IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE!!


Health reform plan for 'uninsurables' winds down
By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR, Associated Press

WASHINGTON -- Citing financial concerns, the Obama administration has begun quietly winding down one of the earliest programs created by the president's health care overhaul, a plan that helps people with existing medical problems who can't get private insurance.

In an afternoon teleconference with state counterparts, administration officials said Friday the Pre-Existing Condition Insurance Plan, or PCIP, will stop taking new applications. People already in the plan will not lose coverage.
[link to vitals.nbcnews.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34637334


Does anyone have any clue what Obama care actually is ?

Last Edited by HJTRAS on 02/17/2013 08:26 PM
RAS
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02/17/2013 09:09 PM
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Three 6 knows how to live in these shit times "if i couldnt get high id probably blow my fcking brains out"
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02/17/2013 09:15 PM
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I have always objected to obamacare, because the goons in WA DC excluded themselves from it. We have good health ins. and we have seen two of our doctors quit since the first of the year.]

If it is good enough for everyone, it is good enough for pilossi and obammy!
HJTRAS

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02/17/2013 09:19 PM
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Re: Labor Unions Want Out of Obamacare!
I have always objected to obamacare, because the goons in WA DC excluded themselves from it. We have good health ins. and we have seen two of our doctors quit since the first of the year.]

If it is good enough for everyone, it is good enough for pilossi and obammy!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16240169


On the opposite end always been self employed and never had good insurance but as far as I can see this changed nothing except make shitty insurance more unaffordable.
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