For Bible Students

Daniel 8:25 refers to Antiochus, in case you werent follwingthe history. Look up Antiochus and his history with Israel, see if it doesnt exactly match the end of Daniel 8 and 11.

Don't CARE what your little book is saying. Furthermore, why WOULD I care about a book that its own followers can't agree on what the damn thing says!!

The Bible has no bearing towards Spirituality, it only hinders it by putting OTHER MENS THOUGHTS between a human and God.

Why am I in this thread if I don't care? Just to give you shit for bringing religion to a goddamn conspiracy site. YOU DON'T BELONG HERE, what the fuck don't you babbling parroting religious idiots get about this? Fucking hell you people are as dumb as a bag of hammers.

You're such an inspiration for the ways
That I'll never ever choose to be
Oh so many ways for me to show you
How the savior has abandoned you
Fuck your God
Your Lord and your Christ
He did this
Took all you had and
Left you this way
Still you pray, you never stray
Never taste of the fruit
You never thought to question why

It's not like you killed someone
It's not like you drove a hateful spear into his side
Praise the one who left you
Broken down and paralyzed
He did it all for you
He did it all for you

Oh so many many ways for me to show you
How your dogma has abandoned you
Pray to your Christ, to your god
Never taste of the fruit
Never stray, never break
Never---choke on a lie
Even though he's the one who did this to you
You never thought to question why

Not like you killed someone
It's Not like you drove a spiteful spear into his side
Talk to Jesus Christ
As if he knows the reasons why
He did it all for you
Did it all for you
He did it all for you

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Da 8:25 'but he shall be broken without hand.'
-Antiochus died of a disease

A woman goes to her rabbi with a serious problem.

Her two female parrots have picked up a bad habit. Any time she has visitors, the two parrots embarrass her by saying, in unison, “Hi ! We’re prostitutes. Want to have some fun?”

To her surprise, the rabbi breaks into a smile, explaining that he has two male parrots which he has trained to pray and who’ve become very observant, spending much of the day praying in their cage.

He’s confident that if the woman brings her two parrots over to his house, his two parrots will exert such a positive influence that her birds will turn into model parrots.

The next day the woman drives over to the rabbi’s house and brings her two parrots into his home. As she looks around, she notices a large cage with two parrots, each wearing a little kippah and tiny tallis and each holding a miniature siddur, while they rock back and forth in prayer.

Sure enough, as soon as she places her female parrots in the cage, they shout out to their male counterparts: “Hi! We’re prostitutes.

Want to have some fun ?”

One of the rabbi’s parrots immediately turns to the other, squawking: “Moishe, put the f***king book down. Our prayers have been answered!”

LMDAO ...........

Urban Dictionary

Religious Idiots

Anyone who is a member of a religion. Religion is for those who aren't smart enough to think on thier own so they believe in a book that was written 2000 years ago. They all filled with hatred.

So this applies to which reference or both?

Re:7:1:
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth,
holding the four winds of the earth,
that the wind should not blow on the earth,
nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

You don't seem to have taken the beasts into account as they also cover the 4 metal kingdoms using different terms.

Da:7:4:
The first was like a lion,
and had eagle's wings:
I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked,
and it was lifted up from the earth,
and made stand upon the feet as a man,
and a man's heart was given to it.

The above is Neb alone in Da:4

Da:7:5:
And behold another beast,
a second,
like to a bear,
and it raised up itself on one side,
and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it:
and they said thus unto it,
Arise,
devour much flesh.

The above is Neb's son, Cyrus and Darius.

Da:7:6:
After this I beheld,
and lo another,
like a leopard,
which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl;
the beast had also four heads;
and dominion was given to it.

The above is Alex and any Greek Generals, the 4 wings are a possible 4 rulers that come after Greece, of the next 4 rulers only Rome qualifies as a 'dominion' the others were bit players. The dominion not only included Jerusalem and the promised land but in 70AD the took control of the Temple area and that is to remain that way until the iron comes and the iron is fallen angels just like before the flood when they were put into the pit except Satan. The beast from the Pit is a fallen angel that makes the return from the pit in Re:9.

De:33:2:
And he said, The LORD came from Sinai,
and rose up from Seir unto them;
he shined forth from mount Paran,
and he came with ten thousands of saints:
from his right hand went a fiery law for them.


Da:7:7:
After this I saw in the night visions,
and behold a fourth beast,
dreadful and terrible,
and strong exceedingly;
and it had great iron teeth:
it devoured and brake in pieces,
and stamped the residue with the feet of it:
and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it;
and it had ten horns.

The Mystery of Iniquity was a very real power in Paul's time and long before that as well. That is the same power that rules the world today. It is the kingdom of satan. There is a very real instrumentality that is restraining the kingdom of satan and not just the abstract concept of "prophecy". Prophecy describes what will happen, but prophecy is not one of the actors. When the Old Testament spoke prophetically about a coming saviour no one thought that Prophecy would be their salvation. Everyone who believed expected a real, live saviour to come. And He did.

The sophism of “prophecy is the restrainer” only superficially (and dishonestly) appears to solve the riddle. But even a shallow exploration of the argument reveals that this response fails to answer any questions at all.


Where did I ever say anything about having the true meaning? I would not claim to have the true meaning about anything but the basics, such as CHrist and Him crucified.

You seem to be the only one on edge here, need a definition for that?

How can you determine something is a 'fail' if you don't have the correct answer??
Or is anything that you don't already agree with a 'fail'?


Who is 'Christ and Him'? (it's not a term I have heard before

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Already have it ............ anti-rligious and sick of proselytizing where it does not belong - at a goddamn conspiracy site. It's just damn ridiculous that you think the entire internet is your own personal religious forum, negating the wishes of site patrons. It is wholly arrogant, but then, that's Christianity, arrogance at its height,

Did an everlasting Kingdom with resurrected people also come into being at the moment of his death?

And how does Satan meet his end?

Re:20:1:
And I saw an angel come down from heaven,
having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
Re:20:2:
And he laid hold on the dragon,
that old serpent,
which is the Devil,
and Satan,
and bound him a thousand years,
Re:20:3:
And cast him into the bottomless pit,
and shut him up,
and set a seal upon him,
that he should deceive the nations no more,
till the thousand years should be fulfilled:
and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Does 'broken' mean killed or incapacitated?

I see that you neglected the rest of the quote.

and as to the identity of "Christ and him" as you put it...you also truncated the atatement again...

1 Corinthians 2:2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

Is that especially on a thread with 'For Bible Students' as the title?

That last screw come loose on your hinge to reality?

Thank you.

I want to tell you what I think the bible is...

It is a sacred book.

It is inspired.

It has 80 books written by 60 authors (roughly).

There were 400 years in between the old testament and the new.

But it is so much more. When you ask the Holy Spirit to guide you while you read it it becomes a lesson for you that is relevant for that moment in your life. As I study the bible I try to remember it is a living thing.

What was inside of Antiochus may be what "was, is not and yet is"

There is something perculiar about Chapters 11 and 12. They seem to go back and forth in time from the future to the very distant future from Daniel's perspective.

It is as if Antiochus or some demon that possessed him was ahead of his(its) time. Antiochus was "restrained" by the Roman Army. In his thirst for conquest.

And when we cannot trust the news we here right now can you really trust the history spoon fed regarding that which happened 2000+ years past regarding the death of a Syrian King?

And to further answer your question, prophecy does not "do" anything. Prophecy tells us about those who do the doing. For the restrainer we have a group of probably actors that includes the Holy Spirit, Satan, Michael, Jesus, and even the Man of Sin himself. These are the actors whose actions prophecy describes and foretells. But which one is the restrainer is a question best left alone because it is not pertinent to salvation, only causes strife and is impossible to know in this life.

Oh I see, because the "thread title" makes it obvious that it is a religious discussion, I should just bow down and condone that Christians are rampantly proselytizing at a NON-RELIGIOUS FORUM. What don't you get, this is not a religious forum, it is a conspiracy forum!!

If I came to your chuch and started bantering about JFK, UFO's, meteors, governemnt experiments, you would be the first to get me out of your church. If you say otherwise, you are a goddamn liar.

Now, again ......

What do you not understand, you are at the wrong site for your discussions.

What do you not understand that to continue your religious dogma HERE is to put yourself above all other patrons of this site, which is the very essence of arrogance. Is that really Christ-like?

which 14 apocryphal books do you think to be canon?

I bet you have a lot of problems in many parts of your life. You don't sound like a huge success in the relationship game.

If you will look at the thread title this is about a study of a book. If you don't study this book why do you want to come in and smash those that do?

That title belongs to a fallen angel. When Revelation was written Rome was the authority, that would make them the 6th king, the one 'that is'.

The 8th king is a fallen angel, 'was' before the flood, 'was not' from the flood until he is released when the (yet future) 5th trump sounds, 'will be' for 42 months and then the 1,000 year reign starts. The verse below is how holy angels put him into the pit.

De:33:2:
And he said,
The LORD came from Sinai,
and rose up from Seir unto them;
he shined forth from mount Paran,
and he came with ten thousands of saints:
from his right hand went a fiery law for them.

First, the site is called GODlike Productions.

Second, where in the terms of this site does it say that religious threads and discussions are not allowed?

And finally, you need to buy a good dictionary because you definitely do not know the definition of proselytizing.

In fact it is you who is proselytizing.




So please feel free to take your proselytizing elsewhere, Mr

I am no longer catholic. I've never read them since we were not encouraged to read as catholics.

I've only begun reading the bible as an adult through another church.

This sure sounds like men worshiping them selves as though we are gods. The original sin repeats its self in the final days.
2 Thessalonians 2

Yes, a fallen angel who might have possessed one or more human beings in the past.

Rome was and IS the fourth kingdom. Rome is a kingdom and not a king. A king is an individual person. Words are important. We should not try to jam a square peg into a round hole byy making words take on meanings that they do not have.