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Experiencing God

 
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Experiencing God
many ask why people cannot see gods presence.
and many ask why people can see "gods" presence.
the answer to both is in belief.

have you ever noticed that when you truly believe something, synchronicity's occur all the time that confirm your belief?
or when you you don't believe something, synchronicity's occur that disprove it?

this is because we create our reality, and so does everyone else.
but when everyone believes that their reality is the only "true" one, then synchronicity's occur that cause disharmony in our collective reality.
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It's like this:

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Mat 24:23 KJV - Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here [is] Christ, or there; believe [it] not.
Mat 24:24 KJV - For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Mat 24:25 KJV - Behold, I have told you before.
Mat 24:26 KJV - Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, [he is] in the secret chambers; believe [it] not.
Mat 24:27 KJV - For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:28 KJV - For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
Mat 24:29 KJV - Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Mat 24:30 KJV - And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
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Exd 33:20 KJV - And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.
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It's like this:


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hahaha yup
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Please don't post bible verses, they're great, but to old and many really don't understand them
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Tuesday 15 July 1997

On this day I went outside Air Traffic Approach building, to have a smoke on the steps. I don't recall doing anything special in the way of being spiritual; I was just thinking of God and probably making up songs in my heart for Him, as I sucked on a cigarette. Then all of a sudden I heard a wind blow from the right moving to the left of me and heard a sound of a town, horses and people talking in some language I never heard before. As I watch a scene unrolled like a scroll from the right to left. I saw a man lying face down on a curved stone with his hands bound to the stone. Two people were whipping this man, one on either side of him. As each of them whipped him I could hear them cursing him in there own language. I could also see the cords of the whip cut deep to the bone and then drag hunk of flesh away as the whip was being withdrawn. During all this I sat there with my cigarette in my hand wondering what's going on and thinking to myself, "I know this man, I know this man". The whipping continued and with each lash of the whip the man would give a cry, not a scream, it was like a teeth clenched growl. I could also sense the pain as if I was watching a really violent movie. Then the view panned around so I was face to face with the man but his head was facing down, then he was lashed once more and as the lash struck his back he quickly raised his head in obvious pain and looked into my eyes. I instantly realised that it was Jesus and He said to me as He looked into my eyes with His pain filled eyes, "That's for you Craig". Then the vision vanished and I sat there with tear filled eyes thinking, "I just seen Jesus being whipped and it seemed so personal". He said, "that's for you Craig".
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Did this experience change your life at all?
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Yeah I felt down for years but He said to me only a few weeks ago about this vision.
As I was thinking about the vision He said, Craig how many other people do you think have seen that vision out all the people in history?
I said None.
He said yeah, Just you.
But that still does not help me much.

What did He look Like?
I thought He looked like me but more muscular and powerful.
He was White, Long Brown hair and Blue pain filled eyes.
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Exd 33:20 KJV - And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.
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O.k. I just learned this today.
Topic: Can A Person See God And Live?

ANNOUNCER: Now, Pastor Gregory Seltz responds to questions. I'm Mark Eischer. A listener asks, "I thought the Bible said no one can see God and live. Last week's message was about the transfiguration of Jesus. How could the disciples have witnessed that and still lived to tell about it?"

SELTZ: Wow, Mark, that's a challenging observation about Jesus' transfiguration. The listener is right, God said to Moses in Exodus 33:20: "You cannot see my face, for man shall not see me and live." But an amazing thing happened. It's called "grace."

ANNOUNCER: What do you mean by that?

SELTZ: I'm referring to the fact that any encounter we sinners might have with the true and Holy God, in all His glory, would result in our death. That was made very clear when the people of Israel were given instructions about the tabernacle. If an Israelite were to approach this tent where God made His dwelling place, we hear in Numbers chapter 18 (vs.22) that the person would bear the consequences of his own sin and die. So, in order for the disciples to survive an encounter with the true God in all of His glory, something had to change. Either we had to become perfect or God had to create another way.

ANNOUNCER: And God's other way is the "way of grace."

SELTZ: Yes, God did something amazing. He came to us. He drew close to us in order to save us. At first this was made possible by the Old Testament sacrifices. The death of an animal in our place, the shedding of the animal's blood, allowed a priest to enter into God's Holy Presence. In the Old Testament, we see God's grace--His undeserved love--made evident in His approach to us.

ANNOUNCER: Moses was described in the Bible as a great prophet whom the Lord knew face to face (Deut. 34:10).

SELTZ: Yes, and even Moses said to the people of Israel, "Did any people ever hear the voice of God speaking out of the midst of the fire, as you have heard, and still live?" (Deuteronomy 4:33 ESV) What he's really saying is this is how much God loved them.

ANNOUNCER: All right. Now how does this all connect to the transfiguration of Jesus?

SELTZ: Well, think about it. In the first chapter of the Gospel of John we hear that "the Word, Jesus, became flesh and made His dwelling among us." So, in essence, God becomes approachable by becoming One of us. So, God loved us so much that He sent His Son to live among us, to be close to us. The perfect Son of God, then, became the Friend of sinners. But this friendship had a price. In Hebrews, chapter ten, we hear how a Holy God was able to accept sinners like us. Verse 10 says, "We have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all." Verses 12-14 goes on to say, "Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins.... For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified" (Hebrews 10:12-14 ESV).

ANNOUNCER: Jesus, then, was the ultimate Sacrifice that cleanses us from sin and that makes being in God's Holy Presence possible for we who are still sinners through and through.

SELTZ: And that, Mark, is what I mean by God's grace. Ephesians 2 starts out by saying, "you were dead in your trespasses and sins." But it goes on to say, "But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love for which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses and sins, He made us alive together with Christ-by grace you have been saved-" (Ephesians 2:4-5 ESV). So, we're able to be with God--even the Holy Son of God revealed on the Mount of Transfiguration--because of the sacrifice of Jesus as an offering for our sin.

ANNOUNCER: And that's why Peter, James, and John could stay alive although being in the Presence of the Glory of God.

SELTZ: Exactly, It's also interesting, Mark, that, at the transfiguration, Moses and Elijah appeared with Jesus and spoke with Him about His coming death and resurrection. During their lives on earth, Moses and Elijah were the ones who experienced personal encounters with the Holy God--and both lived. It's almost as if the transfiguration of Jesus was showing the disciples and us that this is what life is like under God's grace. He is with us; He draws us to Himself in a glorious and grace-filled relationship.

ANNOUNCER: What a blessing to know that, because of His grace, God changes everything and gives us an eternal hope. Thank you Pastor Seltz; and we thank you, the listener, for making this program part of your day. This has been a presentation of Lutheran Hour Ministries.

[link to www.lutheranhour.org]

This is the more conservative LCMS, not the liberal ELCA
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Mat 24:23 KJV - Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here [is] Christ, or there; believe [it] not.
Mat 24:24 KJV - For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Mat 24:25 KJV - Behold, I have told you before.
Mat 24:26 KJV - Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, [he is] in the secret chambers; believe [it] not.
Mat 24:27 KJV - For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:28 KJV - For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
Mat 24:29 KJV - Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Mat 24:30 KJV - And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
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