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Astromut first told he had a picture of da14 6 hours after the "passing by". Later he realised that it was 8 hours after "passing by"

hmmmm?

I do not eat that kind of shit....
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Right, because I'm never allowed to make a time zone mistake so I must be lying. Fuck off.
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And there it it is...
The "F" bomb!

lala
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Northwest AR around midnight. I have video I will post later. Here is the radar while it is good. It is crazy! Texas has a few good ones right now as we speak.

[link to weather.cod.edu]
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Wow, I missed it. :(
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Minimum Target Elevation: Approx 20° above horizons.

South 31° 16' 24" East 149° 03' 52" Elevation: 1165m



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is this the observatory you've used?
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is this the observatory you've used?
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Yes indeed.
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is this the observatory you've used?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27459048


Yes indeed.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

See?

Math is the universal language.

Glad you two worked it out. You're on the same side.
Éireann~

Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!")

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

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is this the observatory you've used?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27459048

It just occurred to me that my brother-in-law is a mathematician and in the Netherlands.

Simon? Is that you?
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"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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I do not give negative Karma. I believe that all opinions are worthy of debate and discussion. Free speech is essential to the growth and advancement of each individual and all of Humankind.
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is this the observatory you've used?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27459048

It just occurred to me that my brother-in-law is a mathematician and in the Netherlands.

Simon? Is that you?
 Quoting: Éireann


No,
but my brother is called Simon
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When you want the real size of the object I will help you with the math.

You have to deliver me a movie where you can hear the boom and the entry into the atmosphere can be seen. In the movie must be visible a building or car. Something of which the size is known.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27459048


not sure if this will help or not.

Image: Russian Asteroid Strike As Seen From Space

[link to www.spaceref.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8620349


All three elements needs to be in the same vid
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There will he signs in the sky....
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That was taken from Mark 13:25:

" And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken."


And let not forget about this happening...




[link to www.youtube.com]
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But yet it is still unproven if it is da14 in astromut his picture.
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is this the observatory you've used?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27459048

It just occurred to me that my brother-in-law is a mathematician and in the Netherlands.

Simon? Is that you?
 Quoting: Éireann


No,
but my brother is called Simon
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27459048

Freaky :)

But it is a common name. Like Willem. Everyone has a Willem in the family near about.
Éireann~

Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!")

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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I do not give negative Karma. I believe that all opinions are worthy of debate and discussion. Free speech is essential to the growth and advancement of each individual and all of Humankind.
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But yet it is still unproven if it is da14 in astromut his picture.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27459048

I've been following Astro on these forums for a good bit now and he's never steered me wrong.

Yes *hangs head in shame* I was a Nibiru-tard and Astromut saved me from doom. If there was something up there in the sky that was not where it was supposed to be, Astro would be the first person to post it.

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Éireann~

Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!")

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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I do not give negative Karma. I believe that all opinions are worthy of debate and discussion. Free speech is essential to the growth and advancement of each individual and all of Humankind.
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NASA:

"Preliminary information indicates that a meteor in Chelyabinsk, Russia, is not related to asteroid 2012 DA14, which is flying by Earth safely today...

...Based on the duration of the event, it was a very shallow entry. Measurements are still coming in, and a more precise measure of the energy may be available later. The size of the object before hitting the atmosphere was about 49 feet (15 meters) and had a mass of about 7,000 tons...

...It is important to note that this estimate is preliminary, and may be revised as more data is obtained." ( [link to www.nasa.gov]

NASA's Bill Cooke, as quoted in Saturday's NYT's article by Kenneth Chang:

"At a NASA news conference Friday afternoon, Bill Cooke, who leads the Meteoroid Environment Office at the Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala., said the orbital path of the meteor showed that it was an asteroid, not a comet...The asteroid was impossible to detect, Dr. Cooke said, because it was approaching from the dayside. 'And as you know, telescopes can't see things during the daytime," he said."





Now, for the benefit of Dr. Astro, I ran these statements through my NASA bullshit Translator and this was the result of the translation:


The Chelyabinsk meteor and DA14 were one and the same. What you thought was "DA14" was a diversion to keep your eye off of the flank. "DA14" is whatever we decide it is, for amateur purposes. Since we provide the preliminary data, we determine "the facts". Since we are the Media's "source" we can generate any "fact" we so desire, as long as it remains within physical laws. We have satellites that can look at the sun, so there is no reason why we couldn't see this asteroid coming from the "dayside". Or did it really come from the "dayside" or is that just more disinformation? Muahahaha! Maybe David Dunham's calculations last year of a DA14 impact were correct and this was no "cosmic coincidence".

P.S. We over here at NASA have absolutely no clue why it has been raining asteroids around the world for the past few days. We are still busy watching "DA14" fly away.
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But yet it is still unproven if it is da14 in astromut his picture.
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It is. It would take someone who knows the subject about 5 minutes to verify that, tops.
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Now, for the benefit of Dr. Astro, I ran these statements through my NASA bullshit Translator and this was the result of the translation:
 Quoting: LunaHominem


Not only are your claims worthless, but they have already been disproven. I photographed the asteroid 8 hours after you claim it hit earth.
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Now, for the benefit of Dr. Astro, I ran these statements through my NASA bullshit Translator and this was the result of the translation:
 Quoting: LunaHominem


Not only are your claims worthless, but they have already been disproven. I photographed the asteroid 8 hours after you claim it hit earth.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You photographed part of DA14 so technically, you are correct. From you vantage point, it certainly looked like a solid object but in reality it was a cluster of big rocks and some of them entered our gravitational field, came into orbit, slowed down and have been falling into our atmosphere, just as David Dunham predicted in Moscow last year. NASA is now hoping that they will be no worse than the Chelyabinsk "meteor".
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Question:

NASA told everyone that the Chelyabinsk meteor had 10,000 tones:

[link to www.nydailynews.com]

The Russians said only 10 tones:

[link to rt.com]

Who is lying here?

I'm so affraid to ask "which ones are the incompetent assholes that can't differentiate a 10 tones from a 10,000 tones meteorite" beacause a 9,990 margin of error speaks "I have no f***ing clue of what I am talking about" from both sides, and this idea is to say at least, incredible terrifying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 941766


To busy to call yourselves shills to answer my question?
I mean, this is the ultimate proof, either to a conspiracy, or to the fact that the so-called "scientific comunity" doesn't know shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 941766


Indeed, this has been bugging me as well. This must have been a bad translator problem or somebody is a dirty liar. If you have not noticed, the U.S. has been terrible at reporting news in the recent past...just saying.
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Now, for the benefit of Dr. Astro, I ran these statements through my NASA bullshit Translator and this was the result of the translation:
 Quoting: LunaHominem


Not only are your claims worthless, but they have already been disproven. I photographed the asteroid 8 hours after you claim it hit earth.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You are an awfully serious boy. This is GLP. Lighten up. We engage in creative thinking here. Perhaps NASA could profit from some of your expertise, Dr. Astro, seeing that they can look at Black Holes gazillions of miles away, but can't spot doomsday asteroids headed towards us; seeing that they are able to look at the sun, but don't have the ability to see asteroids coming from the "dayside". LOL!
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Now, for the benefit of Dr. Astro, I ran these statements through my NASA bullshit Translator and this was the result of the translation:
 Quoting: LunaHominem


Not only are your claims worthless, but they have already been disproven. I photographed the asteroid 8 hours after you claim it hit earth.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You photographed part of DA14 so technically, you are correct. From you vantage point, it certainly looked like a solid object but in reality it was a cluster of big rocks and some of them entered our gravitational field, came into orbit, slowed down and have been falling into our atmosphere,
 Quoting: LunaHominem

Absolute bullshit. If it was an unresolved cluster in my picture, 8 hours AFTER the meteor impact, then there is no fucking way "part of it" was the meteor.
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Now, for the benefit of Dr. Astro, I ran these statements through my NASA bullshit Translator and this was the result of the translation:
 Quoting: LunaHominem


Not only are your claims worthless, but they have already been disproven. I photographed the asteroid 8 hours after you claim it hit earth.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You are an awfully serious boy. This is GLP. Lighten up. We engage in creative thinking here.
 Quoting: LunaHominem

You engage in unsubstantiated bullshit. I engage in critical thinking and analysis.
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Now, for the benefit of Dr. Astro, I ran these statements through my NASA bullshit Translator and this was the result of the translation:
 Quoting: LunaHominem


Not only are your claims worthless, but they have already been disproven. I photographed the asteroid 8 hours after you claim it hit earth.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You photographed part of DA14 so technically, you are correct. From you vantage point, it certainly looked like a solid object but in reality it was a cluster of big rocks and some of them entered our gravitational field, came into orbit, slowed down and have been falling into our atmosphere,
 Quoting: LunaHominem

Absolute bullshit. If it was an unresolved cluster in my picture, 8 hours AFTER the meteor impact, then there is no fucking way "part of it" was the meteor.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Absolute conjecture. Absolute opinion.

I thought you engage in "critical opinion and analysis".
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Not only are your claims worthless, but they have already been disproven. I photographed the asteroid 8 hours after you claim it hit earth.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You photographed part of DA14 so technically, you are correct. From you vantage point, it certainly looked like a solid object but in reality it was a cluster of big rocks and some of them entered our gravitational field, came into orbit, slowed down and have been falling into our atmosphere,
 Quoting: LunaHominem

Absolute bullshit. If it was an unresolved cluster in my picture, 8 hours AFTER the meteor impact, then there is no fucking way "part of it" was the meteor.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Absolute conjecture. Absolute opinion.
 Quoting: LunaHominem

No, absolute fact. The trajectory of DA14 is incompatible both with your claim of it hitting earth, and with your claim of hitting in the Urals.
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So, let me get this straight, NASA can see DA14 but can't the numerous asteroids of similar size that have been falling since the Chelyabinsk asteroid? Yeah right.

NASA can look directly at the sun with all those fancy satellites, but can't see asteroids coming from our "dayside". No, not buying it. Sorry, Dr. Astro.
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So, let me get this straight, NASA can see DA14 but can't the numerous asteroids of similar size that have been falling since the Chelyabinsk asteroid? Yeah right.

NASA can look directly at the sun with all those fancy satellites, but can't see asteroids coming from our "dayside". No, not buying it. Sorry, Dr. Astro.
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this ^^

and +
this one should come out to fake astros critical shitting around experts. and apid agents of tavistock

shill on bitches
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So, let me get this straight, NASA can see DA14 but can't the numerous asteroids of similar size that have been falling since the Chelyabinsk asteroid? Yeah right.

NASA can look directly at the sun with all those fancy satellites, but can't see asteroids coming from our "dayside". No, not buying it. Sorry, Dr. Astro.
 Quoting: LunaHominem


this ^^

and +
this one should come out to fake astros critical shitting around experts out there. and paid agents of tavistock

shill on bitches
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sorry for the double post
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You photographed part of DA14 so technically, you are correct. From you vantage point, it certainly looked like a solid object but in reality it was a cluster of big rocks and some of them entered our gravitational field, came into orbit, slowed down and have been falling into our atmosphere,
 Quoting: LunaHominem

Absolute bullshit. If it was an unresolved cluster in my picture, 8 hours AFTER the meteor impact, then there is no fucking way "part of it" was the meteor.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Absolute conjecture. Absolute opinion.
 Quoting: LunaHominem

No, absolute fact. The trajectory of DA14 is incompatible both with your claim of it hitting earth, and with your claim of hitting in the Urals.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Not unless DA14 was a cluster of large rocks and some of the smaller rocks out front entered our gravitational field, slowed down came into orbit and have been falling into our atmosphere around world over the past few days. This would explain the "cosmic coincidence" of having the Chelyabinsk asteroid occur over the very spot that the larger remnants of DA14 would later past. This larger remnant of DA14 is what you later photographed flying away.

You got to stop thinking in such one dimensional, linear terms, Dr. Astro.

David Dunham had this figured out long ago.
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So, let me get this straight, NASA can see DA14 but can't the numerous asteroids of similar size that have been falling since the Chelyabinsk asteroid? Yeah right.
 Quoting: LunaHominem

The meteors seen since are nowhere near the size of DA14. Not even close.
NASA can look directly at the sun with all those fancy satellites, but can't see asteroids coming from our "dayside". No, not buying it. Sorry, Dr. Astro.
 Quoting: Luna

Those fancy satellites aren't hunting for 5 meter and smaller asteroids, they're looking at the sun.

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the sun is very busy also hiding
[link to stereo.ssl.berkeley.edu]

could be sending stuff our way, it is like a window opened last friday , good post
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Absolute bullshit. If it was an unresolved cluster in my picture, 8 hours AFTER the meteor impact, then there is no fucking way "part of it" was the meteor.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Absolute conjecture. Absolute opinion.
 Quoting: LunaHominem

No, absolute fact. The trajectory of DA14 is incompatible both with your claim of it hitting earth, and with your claim of hitting in the Urals.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Not unless DA14 was a cluster of large rocks and some of the smaller rocks out front entered our gravitational field, slowed down came into orbit
 Quoting: LunaHominem

That's not how it works in real life. Wrong part of the planet entirely, even if you bent the trajectory of DA14 towards earth. Even if it hit the atmosphere in such a way as to slow it into orbit temporarily, the latitude of perigee would still not allow for an impact in the Urals.
You got to stop thinking in such one dimensional, linear terms, Dr. Astro.
 Quoting: luna

You have got to study basic celestial mechanics. I know what the hell I'm talking about.
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