CHALLENGE TO EVOLUTIONISTS

i didnt think so.

thanks for the clarification.

Can you eat your way out of death?


You are really sure you aren't a closed system?

There is food you can eat to regenerate your body? Let you live to 400?

Are you dense?

Humans are a closed system, we breath, we eat, we need water just to keep moving longer than 2 days.... otherwise

dun dun dun, second law kills us.

"In a closed system, no mass may be transferred in or out of the system boundaries. The system always contains the same amount of matter, but heat and work can be exchanged across the boundary of the system. Whether a system can exchange heat, work, or both is dependent on the property of its boundary.
Adiabatic boundary – not allowing any heat exchange: A thermally isolated system
Rigid boundary – not allowing exchange of work: A mechanically isolated system"

You can't make up your own definitions.

Humans are NOT closed systems, that is exactly why we don't die in 2 days. You are arguing against your own position and you don't even know it cause you are ignorant about most of the stuff you say.

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Nothing to see here

Satan made me double post

If you believe that then do everyone a favor and stop eating, because obviously you don't believe we need outside energy just to keep breathing.... if that isn't closed loop I don't know what is.

Eat your way to 400... By your logic you should be able too.

oh my god, being able to eat is EXACTLY WHAT MAKES YOU AN OPEN SYSTEM!!

Last Edited by John Kimble on 02/18/2013 02:02 PM

Is there a human being that does not need to eat?

He must be an exeption to the law, because obviously information cant seem to make it through his closed mind..

Yeah, a dead one.

you are very confused.

time to stop posting.

Closed and open systems.

People eat and drink to live... I would argue closed system, because it IS universal.

If you want to argue open system, you have to say that there is a way to nullify the death of the body over time.

So what is your argument?

i do not care if you accept darwins theory.

i don't wish to change your beliefs with my arguments.

however you are the op of this thread. a thread fraught with whining and cajoling, you plead and beg, for us to turn from this theory. i accept your reservations regarding evolution. now, posit an alternative.

frankly you sound desperate. face it you are dying to tell us what we should believe. so get on with it. oh, but try to make your reasons remotely plausible.

Dude, you can not make up your own definitions. There is no need to argue for what a closed system means cause it is already defined.

Yes you can nullify death of the body overtime. That is why you eat!!!!!!!!!!!

Open system = energy can be exchanged therefor the laws of thermodynamics don't apply
Closed system = There is no exchange hence you can determine the movement of thermodynamics since there is no influence from outside.

... ee cummings decided to post before I have my answer

but you do die right?

2nd law in your face

He doesnt have to defend his view, because thats not whats on 'trial' here..evolution is. Its 'red herring' to try and get them to defend their own p.o.v instead of just wanting us to prove him wrong.

If you actually read the thread, I have proposed several arguments about why evolutionary claims are non-falsifiable

I'm still waiting for someone to advance a scientific argument defending Evolution. Feel free to do so anytime. It not, please stop taking up thread space with your philosophical ramblings.

Thermodynamics have nothing to do with dying except for the fact that you feel stone cold after you are dead.

Last Edited by John Kimble on 02/18/2013 02:15 PM

No one said anything about intelligent design, just evolution

It has everything to do with dying... name something that doesn't die.

Irrelevant. Thermodynamics is about the movement of heat, not about the principles of life.

i was not aware that there was a rule book for this discussion.

This is ridiculous.

7 pages and not one person is willing to defend belief in this stupid theory of evolution that is claimed to be an unassailable truth.

If I made a challenge about any REAL scientific theory like Gravity, I would get my ass handed to me in 5 seconds.


Evolution is pseudo-scientific ancient naturalist philosphy, mandated as a dogma in a time when mice spawning from dirty rags was considered a credible theory. What a joke.

**** we have a winner in this thread that gets it!**

yep, you probably don't produce heat, but I do.

Probably but atleast I know what I am talking about.

Well, you haven't shown it.

Tell me what to eat to live forever
Tell me what can recharge the Earth's rotation
Tell me what animal can be described as "open looped" and lives forever
Tell me how...


Inquiring minds want to know

Then you can tell me how people are exempt from the second law of thermodynamics... I am pretty sure grandpa disagrees.