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Can someone show me proof that "God" is real?

 
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Every con artist requires that you take what they say on
"faith" because they can't really prove anything.
This includes preachers
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GOD can not be bought.
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Every con artist requires that you take what they say on
"faith" because they can't really prove anything.
This includes preachers
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GOD can not be bought.
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But he can be sold.
There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.
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Proof depends on your definition.
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Every con artist requires that you take what they say on
"faith" because they can't really prove anything.
This includes preachers
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GOD can not be bought.
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But he can be sold.
 Quoting: AgnosticDeity


Yo can't sell what you never had AG.
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hmmm


What kind of proof are you looking for?

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PS

You say, "suffer eternally".... I say, "look around you". wink

We have suffered long enough. No God I know of is pathetic enough to condemn us to even deeper suffering after we die, for the TOTAL NON-CRIME of merely a healthy sense of doubt and skepticism....

Maybe look into Buddhism/Hinduism, it is far more intellectual, and of course they are minority religions and thus untainted by our society machine.

hf
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^^^
I hope that helps you.
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Two words - Kate Upton

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I will tell you this.

Only GOD can prove this to you. And when He does, all the petty stuff will become irrelevant. You will know.
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Just wondering why you skipped my post?
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When I was a follower of Christ I asked daily for proof of "God" during my crisis of faith. Well you can see the results. I am Agnostic because of studying the bible and it's inconsistencies. Also I observe human nature, and I can tell you that religion was created as a control mechanism way back in the days of might makes right.

The strong clan chief would try to make a stupid decision, the shaman being an intelligent person who immediately recognized the mistake would tell the clan chief "hey buddy you are messing up." Which earned him a grade a ass whuppin. So the shaman using his mental prowess told the clan chief that the spirits of the sky told him that the moon would only be half visible in 15 days. Well sure enough 15 days later the moon looked just like the shaman said it would, and the chief was sold on the sky spirits. So the shaman started to tell the chief that the sky spirits would be angry if he didn't listen to the shamans wisdom, and bada bang bada boom religion was born.
 Quoting: AgnosticDeity


What kind of proof were you actually looking for? You aren't just going to run into an extremely rare miracle. Spirit usually works through synchronicity that can be difficult to notice. Getting close to God is easy for the patient, all you need to do is meditate everyday for 15-20 minutes. Even if it doesn't help your faith, it has health benefits.

There is nothing wrong with being skeptical of the bible. Much of the Old Testament was rewritten during Babylonian occupation. New Testament authors and later Christian writers further complicated the distortion of Hebrew history by their well-meant attempts to transcendentalize the Jewish prophets. Thus has Hebrew history been disastrously exploited by both Jewish and Christian writers. Secular Hebrew history has been thoroughly dogmatized. It has been converted into a fiction of sacred history and has become inextricably bound up with the moral concepts and religious teachings of the so-called Christian nations.
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:hmmm:


What kind of proof are you looking for?

...

PS

You say, "suffer eternally".... I say, "look around you". wink

We have suffered long enough. No God I know of is pathetic enough to condemn us to even deeper suffering after we die, for the TOTAL NON-CRIME of merely a healthy sense of doubt and skepticism....

Maybe look into Buddhism/Hinduism, it is far more intellectual, and of course they are minority religions and thus untainted by our society machine.

hf
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By your society machine perhaps.

Ever taken a look at India? How about the effects of their society machine on religion?

Ever taken a deep look into buddhist lifestyle in the places these "peaceful" religions are from? How about women's rights in these "peaceful" religions, "untainted" by a society machine?

People will believe what they believe. Fuck it.
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What about Gnosticism?

Eh? Eh? groucho Pretty dark shit with that one.
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Proof depends on your definition.
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The Alpha and Omega guy. Magic Sky Wizard what created everything in 6 days then slept in on the 7th. The guy who raped a 14 year old girl named Mary and got her all knocked up. That guy.
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By your society machine perhaps.

Ever taken a look at India? How about the effects of their society machine on religion?

Ever taken a deep look into buddhist lifestyle in the places these "peaceful" religions are from? How about women's rights in these "peaceful" religions, "untainted" by a society machine?

People will believe what they believe. Fuck it.
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Yes... because like the OP, I live in North America. Not many Hindus.
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can u prove you love your family?
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Absolutely. I feed and shelter them. I care for them when they are sick. I educate them so they will have the knowledge that they need for the future. I provide a moral compass to them so they will know right from wrong. I act as a role model of the person I want them to be. And I do these things expecting nothing in return.

If I did not love my family surely I would charge for these services, much like the church with its tithing system.
 Quoting: AgnosticDeity


See, your understanding seems to be reliant on what you've been told, rather than what you "know".

GOD and religion are not the same thing.

Jesus came to save you from religion.
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Sorry to disagree, but if not for religion "God" would be in the same place as Zeus and Odin... The Mythology section of your local book store.

Jesus didn't come to save me from religion. He came to unify Israel under it's rightful king, and Pilate just couldn't have that happen. If Jesus ascended to his throne Judea would have revolted against the Romans and Pilate would have not only lost control of the region, but also his life.
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Joshua ben Joseph never wanted to be a king on this planet, though he easily could have been after the feeding of the 5,000. The Hebrews wanted a God-King that would make life extremely easy (besides making Israel the dominant nation), more specifically through the creation of free food. Joshua/Jesus was interested in establishing the spiritual kingdom of God in the hearts of men (or put differently, a spiritual family of God-knowing mortals). Unfortunately, the brotherhood of man has not really been established, there has yet to be a spiritual renaissance on the planet.
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Amos 3:7 For the Lord God doth nothing without revealing his secret to his servants the prophets.

BEHOLD! THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS AT HAND!

Matthew 10: [34] Do not think that I came to send peace upon earth: I came not to send peace, but the sword.


Jeremias (Jeremiah) 25: [27] And thou shalt say to them: Thus saith the Lord of hosts the God of Israel: Drink ye, and be drunken, and vomit: and fall, and rise no more, because of the sword, which I shall send among you.
[28] And if they refuse to take the cup at thy hand to drink, thou shalt say to them: Thus saith the Lord of hosts: Drinking you shall drink:

Jeremias (Jeremiah) 22:[29] O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord.

Ezechiel (Ezeckiel) 39: [8] Behold it cometh, and it is done, saith the Lord God: this is the day whereof I have spoken.

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Aggeus (Haggai) 2: [7] For thus saith the Lord of hosts: Yet one little while, and I will move the heaven and the earth, and the sea, and the dry land.

(Isaiah) 24:[3] With desolation shall the earth be laid waste, and it shall be utterly spoiled: for the Lord hath spoken this word.

Zacharias (Zachariah) 13:7
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What about Gnosticism?

Eh? Eh? groucho Pretty dark shit with that one.
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Those guys scare me worse than the satanists. ahhh

By your society machine perhaps.

Ever taken a look at India? How about the effects of their society machine on religion?

Ever taken a deep look into buddhist lifestyle in the places these "peaceful" religions are from? How about women's rights in these "peaceful" religions, "untainted" by a society machine?

People will believe what they believe. Fuck it.
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Yes... because like the OP, I live in North America. Not many Hindus.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


I couldn't possibly be Hindu... My diet consists of 99.999% beef lol. Buddhism has honestly always intrigued me. I like the idea of reincarnation and nonviolence. As long as I can still watch Die Hard, and play Call of Duty lol.
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Absolutely. I feed and shelter them. I care for them when they are sick. I educate them so they will have the knowledge that they need for the future. I provide a moral compass to them so they will know right from wrong. I act as a role model of the person I want them to be. And I do these things expecting nothing in return.

If I did not love my family surely I would charge for these services, much like the church with its tithing system.
 Quoting: AgnosticDeity


See, your understanding seems to be reliant on what you've been told, rather than what you "know".

GOD and religion are not the same thing.

Jesus came to save you from religion.
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Sorry to disagree, but if not for religion "God" would be in the same place as Zeus and Odin... The Mythology section of your local book store.

Jesus didn't come to save me from religion. He came to unify Israel under it's rightful king, and Pilate just couldn't have that happen. If Jesus ascended to his throne Judea would have revolted against the Romans and Pilate would have not only lost control of the region, but also his life.
 Quoting: AgnosticDeity


Joshua ben Joseph never wanted to be a king on this planet, though he easily could have been after the feeding of the 5,000. The Hebrews wanted a God-King that would make life extremely easy (besides making Israel the dominant nation), more specifically through the creation of free food. Joshua/Jesus was interested in establishing the spiritual kingdom of God in the hearts of men (or put differently, a spiritual family of God-knowing mortals). Unfortunately, the brotherhood of man has not really been established, there has yet to be a spiritual renaissance on the planet.
 Quoting: overmind


Joshua ben Joseph's wants are immaterial. He was the king of the Jews, not the son of "God" and that's why he was crucified.

As far as feeding the masses

Jesus is back, and boy does he look Asian!
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By all means, those aimless collisions are a miracle in and of themselves, with or without a God. Why can't we appreciate the miracle without trying to explain it away with "God must've done it!" and by "God" most people here mean a bearded caucasian in the sky.
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I am not naming or trying paint what is that extra that makes these allegedly aimless collisions between molecules produce you and me, our computers and everything in between. The unlikeliness of these things coming together just so points to some guiding inteligence with purposes beyond our comprehension.

What seems to us like random collisions may be as purposefully driven as cars on the roads are. If some alien probe which can only distinguish metallic objects, was 'watching' these cars it would seem to it that each goes and turns this or that way for no rime or reason. There would be some statistical laws to their flows, just as our physical laws are statistical regularieties about collision of elementary particles. But this alien probe would have no clue that each car has intelligent driver driving that car in a very particular way for his own purposes going far beyond any simple minded statistical laws about traffic flows the probe had deduced.
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Last thing OP.

Noon ecan answer certain questions for you. Somethings you have to be willing to search for yourself.

Only you know the answers to certain questions about your relatioship towrds GOD and what you do do not know.

Have you ever stepped out in faith believing? Trusting in GOD.

Perhaps when you were first saved? Took some courage?

Maybe the lone person where it took everything you had to humble yourself and get past the fact that everyone will see you. Isolated in a sense.

I am saying this to help you. GOD meets people where they at. Not neccessarily in church or whatever.

It is a heart issue. And your desire for HIM. Honesty. Because He already knows what you are going to say before you even say it. Or do it. Do you really mean it?

People often laugh at similar tesimonies where people are at the bottom of the barrel....

Has it ever occurred to people that is precdisely the moment that it takes sometimes for some people to finally understand?

Another alcoholic.... Oh, he found GOD.. Or ya, it always seems as if people find GOD when after some hardship....

And let me tell you something....

For those who have experienced GODS grace, they know.

Ever hear the song Amazing Grace?

Here are the lyrics in it. Please examine what it is saying.

And ask yourself if everything was peachy in the persons life who wrote it.





Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound,
That saved a wretch like me....
I once was lost but now am found,
Was blind, but now, I see.

T'was Grace that taught...
my heart to fear.
And Grace, my fears relieved
.
How precious did that Grace appear...
the hour I first believed.

Through many dangers, toils and snares...
we have already come.
T'was Grace that brought us safe thus far...
and Grace will lead us home.

The Lord has promised good to me...
His word my hope secures.
He will my shield and portion be...
as long as life endures.

When we've been here ten thousand years...
bright shining as the sun.
We've no less days to sing God's praise...
then when we've first begun.

Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound,
That saved a wretch like me....
I once was lost but now am found,
Was blind, but now, I see.


Again OP... I hope this may help you to understand.
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does god have proof that we are real?
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I couldn't possibly be Hindu... My diet consists of 99.999% beef lol. Buddhism has honestly always intrigued me. I like the idea of reincarnation and nonviolence. As long as I can still watch Die Hard, and play Call of Duty lol.
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I am a Buddhist. And a Hindu. And a Christian.

I never refuse a hamburger tounge

Really what counts is how much the teachings "speak" to you.

Some "Christians" call me a Heretic, but logic always prevails in those sorts of situations.

For example, I will pray to/channel Lilith, the "witch", and I also "accept the word of Christ" (it is really much simpler than people seem to think... wink ). Once all the capitalist BS gets cleared away, all of the angels pretty much say the same thing.

Contemporary Christianity has vilified Lilith but in reality she is basically equivalent to other ruling Goddesses like MAYA, Isis, and Parvati (Hindi: wife of Shiva).

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See, your understanding seems to be reliant on what you've been told, rather than what you "know".

GOD and religion are not the same thing.

Jesus came to save you from religion.
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Sorry to disagree, but if not for religion "God" would be in the same place as Zeus and Odin... The Mythology section of your local book store.

Jesus didn't come to save me from religion. He came to unify Israel under it's rightful king, and Pilate just couldn't have that happen. If Jesus ascended to his throne Judea would have revolted against the Romans and Pilate would have not only lost control of the region, but also his life.
 Quoting: AgnosticDeity


Joshua ben Joseph never wanted to be a king on this planet, though he easily could have been after the feeding of the 5,000. The Hebrews wanted a God-King that would make life extremely easy (besides making Israel the dominant nation), more specifically through the creation of free food. Joshua/Jesus was interested in establishing the spiritual kingdom of God in the hearts of men (or put differently, a spiritual family of God-knowing mortals). Unfortunately, the brotherhood of man has not really been established, there has yet to be a spiritual renaissance on the planet.
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Joshua ben Joseph's wants are immaterial. He was the king of the Jews, not the son of "God" and that's why he was crucified.

As far as feeding the masses

Jesus is back, and boy does he look Asian!
 Quoting: AgnosticDeity


I don't see how his desires are irrelevant since they drove his actions. Sure, many wanted him to be a physical king or fulfill preconceived notions of a messiah, but it didn't happen. Joshua was usually called the king of the Jews when he was being mocked, but he was only a carpenter and a teacher. He was killed because the Sanhedrin hated him. He was more than just a false messiah, he threatened the authority of the Jewish rulers. Perhaps that is actually the point you were trying to make since many from the Sanhedrin did not believe Joshua was of Divine origin.
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Another hopeless case. Ooh my God he wants proof, he knows he cannot get it. But it will be his excuse for not wanting to believe. Break his heart please so he can see it by himself.
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Sir, no one can prove anything to you, if you don't want God to be real He wont be, Then that's that, God won't force himself into your life, your great need for him might invite him though,

no matter what anyone says, to most people seeing, or in the case of the new ageism's (possibly) feeling is believing for some and even then they would need to see/feel and have others also confirm what they saw/felt.

However if you want God to be real, it takes faith say as much as believing that nothing (if left long enough) created everything...

You could start with the realizing of a great need in your own life for something that is missing a whole that cannot be filled with anything you can find.

That "Need" might be the repentance of "Sin" or the Hope of being reunited with a lost love one one day

However When one senses their need of God in their life, they hope they can be forgiven and to lead a better more helpful less selfish life.

Modern society today teaches there is no sin, no God, no devil and no Hope

The Pope taught that all religions, cultures and lifestyles were Christ like

The Bible teaches there is Sin, God, a devil and The Great Hope(in Jesus)

BTW Big Bang theory came from a Jesuit Priest
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Bible calls the Catholic Church the Home of the Jesuits The Mother of All Harlots and home of every unclean bird (Bird is code for doctrine)

The Bible Teaches the planet is roughly 6,000 years old
as it gives a genealogy from Adam to David up to the time of Christ, it takes faith to believe whats in God's Word, the same amount of faith to believe in the school books that also cannot be 100% proved and have slight changes from year to year

My advice is if you really want to know if God is Real or Not:

Simply Ask Him to give you some kind of Sign, it may be you need to be taken down a few notches before you will believe that you actually have a great need of God and His mercy's

If your lucky like I was, You might get a taste of what the planet will be like when God's Mercy's are 100% removed, as Satan will be allowed to have almost full control of the Earth soon.

so there can be no doubt what the Nature of Sin looks like and so it won't rise up again a second time

As for the suffering of those who rejecting God, God is misrepresented He doesn't delight in death or torturing people as some would have you believe, but in Mercy and forgiveness the doctrine of Hell comes from the Papacy who the Bible warns people to stay clear of (Revelation 18:4)

the God who the Bible says loved to create us, wouldn't delight in destroying us, my guess would be its semi-instantaneous depending just how sinful someone really is, even the devil wont burn forever, after the lake of fire event, Christ recreates the Earth sinless and deathless again and Heaven and Earth will combine

Ex-atheist now Pro creationist professor lectures
[link to amazingdiscoveries.tv]

Good Luck in whatever you choose ;)
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Do EVP's prove God is real? Or the Devil? I have some good ones.
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Come ye fishers of men, I'm looking for proof that "God" is real. I see all these people linking scripture with the wildest things, claiming that evolution is bunk, the big bang is bunk, and that the world is only 6000 years old... Despite evidence that evolution, the big bang, the bible as allegory, and radiocarbon dating are more than likely correct. So where is the proof that "God" actually exists?

I'm not looking for that tired old "you can see God in a baby's smile or a sunset" rhetoric. I'm looking for quantifiable incontrovertible proof that there is a "God" and that I will suffer eternally for doubting his existence.

You holy rollers should find this a rather easy question to answer and have the proof falling out of your ears, so I beg of you to share with others... After all you are supposed to be as worried about our immortal souls as you are of your own.
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Try this.
[link to realtruth.org]
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Come ye fishers of men, I'm looking for proof that "God" is real. I see all these people linking scripture with the wildest things, claiming that evolution is bunk, the big bang is bunk, and that the world is only 6000 years old... Despite evidence that evolution, the big bang, the bible as allegory, and radiocarbon dating are more than likely correct. So where is the proof that "God" actually exists?

I'm not looking for that tired old "you can see God in a baby's smile or a sunset" rhetoric. I'm looking for quantifiable incontrovertible proof that there is a "God" and that I will suffer eternally for doubting his existence.

You holy rollers should find this a rather easy question to answer and have the proof falling out of your ears, so I beg of you to share with others... After all you are supposed to be as worried about our immortal souls as you are of your own.
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You can't create something from nothing. There has to be something, before You can create something
else. So, there was always 'something'.
So there is no beginning, neither there is no end.

There is order in the universe. It is not a swamp of
disorder, there are natural laws, to create the possibility
to harbor live and consciousness in the Universe.

All what You see, what is, is God. It is matter, it is energy and most of all, it does contain it's own consciousness, and all that consciousness is embedded inside another consciousness, as a multilayer field.
All this is God.

The big bang did happen. However this was a creation
of this Universe from a plane 'behind' this Universe.

The proof You are looking for is Your own life. You have a body, it is matter. That body is energy as well, because it contrains atoms. And You have consciousness.
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02/18/2013 05:24 AM
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Re: Can someone show me proof that "God" is real?
Nope. No proof.
iI's called Faith, and it's a very, very hard concept to grasp. That's why there is a whole Book on it.
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02/18/2013 05:41 AM
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Re: Can someone show me proof that "God" is real?
Proof depends on your definition.
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