Can someone show me proof that "God" is real?

Been there, done that. He does NOT exist :-) I gave up on the whole thing 20 years ago.
I saw through the bullshit...

Just wondering why you skipped my post?

By no means am I trying to lump all Christians into one category. That would be like lumping all religions into one category, which is just silly. But there are plenty of examples to back my claims, just read these forums if you doubt me.

I cannot prove anything, but I can tell you that based on my personal experiences, I could never not believe in God. During meditation, I can feel God's love (or those serving Him) when I want to feel it. The extra energy moves through my body when my intention to open my heart is clearly made. I have made a little bit of contact with my pair of guardian angels (they contact me by leaving small feathers around the house, there is no other source for them like blankets or pillows). I opened my third eye for a whole year, but the feeling slowly went away after I moved. I'm just starting to reawaken it now.

My story of truth-searching is much longer, but I was able to understand Deity to a greater degree and leave organized religion behind.

When you fail to understand such a simple message, the meaning of the word miracle, then God is indeed, impossible to find.

When I was a follower of Christ I asked daily for proof of "God" during my crisis of faith. Well you can see the results. I am Agnostic because of studying the bible and it's inconsistencies. Also I observe human nature, and I can tell you that religion was created as a control mechanism way back in the days of might makes right.

The strong clan chief would try to make a stupid decision, the shaman being an intelligent person who immediately recognized the mistake would tell the clan chief "hey buddy you are messing up." Which earned him a grade a ass whuppin. So the shaman using his mental prowess told the clan chief that the spirits of the sky told him that the moon would only be half visible in 15 days. Well sure enough 15 days later the moon looked just like the shaman said it would, and the chief was sold on the sky spirits. So the shaman started to tell the chief that the sky spirits would be angry if he didn't listen to the shamans wisdom, and bada bang bada boom religion was born.

Proof: Thread: you found me! Im here and im about to begin...

Trust me it is not that I don't understand your message. It's that your message is the same old song and dance that someone who has no proof will always sing. If there were a "God" and it made us in its image (capable of being rational, intelligent, compassionate, ect ect...) One would think that it would leave some actual quantifiable proof of it's existence.

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Matthew 4:7
Jesus said to him: It is written again: Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

Acts Of Apostles 13:41
Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which you will not believe, if any man shall tell it you.


John 4:48
Jesus therefore said to him: Unless you see signs and wonders, you believe not.

Luke 16:31
And he said to him: If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they believe, if one rise again from the dead.

1 Corinthians 1: [18] For the word of the cross, to them indeed that perish, is foolishness; but to them that are saved, that is, to us, it is the power of God. [19] For it is written: I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the prudence of the prudent I will reject. [20] Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this world? Hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

[21] For seeing that in the wisdom of God the world, by wisdom, knew not God, it pleased God, by the foolishness of our preaching, to save them that believe. [22] For both the Jews require signs, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: [23] But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews indeed a stumblingblock, and unto the Gentiles foolishness: [24] But unto them that are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. [25] For the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.


John 10:26
But you do not believe, because you are not of my sheep.

Mark 1: [15] And saying: The time is accomplished, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent, and believe the gospel.

2 Timothy 2: [7] Understand what I say: for the Lord will give thee in all things understanding. [8] Be mindful that the Lord Jesus Christ is risen again from the dead, of the seed of David, according to my gospel. [9] Wherein I labour even unto bands, as an evildoer; but the word of God is not bound. [10] Therefore I endure all things for the sake of the elect, that they also may obtain the salvation, which is in Christ Jesus, with heavenly glory.

[11] A faithful saying: for if we be dead with him, we shall live also with him. [12] If we suffer, we shall also reign with him. If we deny him, he will also deny us. [13] If we believe not, he continueth faithful, he can not deny himself.

First, what is God? Answer that one, then we'll work on the original question.

See, that the thing. I became a Christian when I first recieved the good news about Jesus Christ. I wasn't indoctrinated. And before I had even read the Bible or knew much about it.
There were certain things that caught my curiosity though. Just enough.
It had been several years of anything really. And then I had to make a dicision. Like everyone has to do.

Do I really believe and what is it that I really believe.

Even Jesus Christ was led into the desert.

I kept believing by faith. Because this is what I really believe to be true. Even during those tough years. I think you might know what I'm talking about.

I will say this though. GOD didn't really show HIMSELF mighty to me until about 20 years after I became a Christian. Not that He didn't reveal HIMSELF but just in a different way. And it was obvious. No denying it.

It is not indoctrination that make people a Christian. It's not the fact you may or may not go to church. It is where your heart is at.

When your faith was challenged, what happened?

I know it is not easy.

can u prove you love your family?

You.are.a.miracle.

Life is a miracle.

What do you need God for if you cannot appreciate miracles?

And lets hypothetically say God exists; how would you know he exists if you're unaware of what a miracle truly is?

Works the other way around too... Without God existing, there are still miracles, but what's the point of miracles if people look past them, trying to find some being that does not exist.

It depends on how you define "God"
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Having said that maybe you're fight phantoms.

Also, I am sympathetic towards you. I understand.

See, faith isn't really saying GOD show yourself and I will believe.

And it is different for everyone because everyone is different and only GOD truly knows what has been shown to them individually.

Faith is trusting GOD.

And I am not sure where you were at in your faith. But only GOD could determine that.

If you go to sleep and wake up that is a miracle, God made you that way.

To try a explain God would be a miracle, we know God, but to explain God is something that God does. We know life and love that is God, with out God there would only be a bunch of walk empty meat suits.

Absolutely. I feed and shelter them. I care for them when they are sick. I educate them so they will have the knowledge that they need for the future. I provide a moral compass to them so they will know right from wrong. I act as a role model of the person I want them to be. And I do these things expecting nothing in return.

If I did not love my family surely I would charge for these services, much like the church with its tithing system.

See, your understanding seems to be reliant on what you've been told, rather than what you "know".

GOD and religion are not the same thing.

Jesus came to save you from religion.

Perhaps you should rethink your meaning of the word 'God'.

Sorry to disagree, but if not for religion "God" would be in the same place as Zeus and Odin... The Mythology section of your local book store.

Jesus didn't come to save me from religion. He came to unify Israel under it's rightful king, and Pilate just couldn't have that happen. If Jesus ascended to his throne Judea would have revolted against the Romans and Pilate would have not only lost control of the region, but also his life.

Imagine a little cell in your body asking its friends and neighbors -- Hey guys, what is this big allpowerful entity they call 'AgnosticDeity', where is it? I have never seen it or heard it,... I don't think it exists.

Reductio ad absurdum -- type your name on the keyboard and watch your hands as you do it. What are the odds that some bunch of molecules colliding completely aimlessly will come together to assemble into those hands, another bunch next to it also aimlessly colliding, assemble into your arms, then some more bunches into the rest of you, then another bunches into that keyboard, computer, cable modem, the ISP Data center, power stations supplying your computer, your lightbulb, your ISP's Data Center,.... Then the bunches making your fingers moving that particular way all in synchrony and just happen to produce, of all conceivable light patterns, none other your own name on the screen... It all supposedly came together just so, by pure aimless collisions between molecules, after all these molecules clumped together as Earth few billion years ago. If that's all there is to it, everything is just randomly colliding by physical laws and nothing else is there, why would they assemble like that and do what you're doing now, what your computer is doing, what rest of us is doing... What are the odds of everything coming together by aimless collisions. Does it seem like that's all there is to it?

Not to be "preachy" with you but I would like you to see for yourself what Jesus said about religion. It is important because many rely on whats interpreted for them, rather than reading for themselves and "seeking".

James 1:27
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.


This can be summed up by the 2nd commandment.

To love eachother as yourself.


Jesus said all of the law and the prophets could be summed up by the first 2 commandments.

The most important...

Love GOD with all of your heart, soul, strength and "understanding".

The other is just like it.

To love eachother as yourself.

Then before He left, He gave another to His disciples. After He had just given them a living example to follow.

Love eachother as I have loved you.

See a pattern?

Love

How about this...
Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.

I love the parable of the Good Samaritan.

It's a shout for joy and a burden relieved when understood.

thats your proof? those are parental roles.. Not love.. Doctors and bad parents do those things all the time as protocol..

Do you have your kids do chores yet? If yes, that responsibility is a tithing system

Open your I.

By all means, those aimless collisions are a miracle in and of themselves, with or without a God. Why can't we appreciate the miracle without trying to explain it away with "God must've done it!" and by "God" most people here mean a bearded caucasian in the sky.

Really? Even after predicting His own death and torcher? Knowing He would be risen again?

When you said you believe, what is it you actually believed?

Because so far, I am having a hard time believing you were a Christian.

and here it is , the obligatory wall o' text
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No collisions here. Pure expansion from a very small, hot, dense state. Nothing really random about it either, it follows a rather simple structure. Think of a balloon if you will. In its inert state is is a small piece of plastic. When pressure is added to the inside the balloon expands and rounds out. When the air pressure inside drops the balloon contracts back to its original state. Our universe is much like the balloon in this instance, we are still in the expansion phase at the moment, and likely will be for billions of years to come. When the energy from the big bang (which is actually a misnomer as there likely was no bang) dissipates the universe will contract back to its original hot dense singularity until a time when theoretically the stored energy is released again and expansion happens once more.

Every con artist requires that you take what they say on
"faith" because they can't really prove anything.
This includes preachers