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There is no proof that Jesus Christ ever existed!

 
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But jesus didn\'t exist.
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Just keep in your little mind, to get amazed next.
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But jesus didn\'t exist.
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Just keep in your little mind, to get amazed next.
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Oh, don't get me wrong. I'm more then willing to believe. Everyday of my life, for 26 years, been waiting for a single act of proof. I guess he's too busy? Or is it that i can take a human act of kindness and apply it to the human doing it instead of it being 'jesus'?
If you're going to talk about free thought and tell others that they're sheep. You better be accepting of everything in the world and let nothing bother you.
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Perhaps if He had not raised from the dead...there would be evidence, but it still would not answer the question of your unbelief. We find through scriptures the "fearful and unbelieving..." are the first ones to be cast into the Lake of Fire.
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And what about those whose FEAR of the false doctrine of 'eternal damnation' led them to their BELIEFS? Do they get punished for their FEAR too according to the scriptures, or do you perceive that is only for those who hold BELIEFS that are different from your own?

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But jesus didn\'t exist.
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Just keep in your little mind, to get amazed next.
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soooo
are you admitting that NASA is ready
with it's laser show and Area 51
craft that it is ready to launch
Operation Touchdown ???
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But jesus didn\\\'t exist.
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Just keep in your little mind, to get amazed next.
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Oh, don\'t get me wrong. I\'m more then willing to believe. Everyday of my life, for 26 years, been waiting for a single act of proof. I guess he\'s too busy? Or is it that i can take a human act of kindness and apply it to the human doing it instead of it being \'jesus\'?
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Jesus is meaningless, His Father is of importance for everyone: the life Giver. You are mortal, aren´t you?
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Soon they will be powerless to do anything against.
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one can only hope
the truth is revealed

but if it is,
the society will collapse
with the truth

as the old shall pass away

and with it the chains of slavery

I smell true freedom
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Unfortunately when you unravel the bible, freedom is not what you find.

The truth is more scary than the bullshit cover story!
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But jesus didn\\\'t exist.
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Just keep in your little mind, to get amazed next.
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soooo
are you admitting that NASA is ready
with it\'s laser show and Area 51
craft that it is ready to launch
Operation Touchdown ???
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Who is Nasa? LOL Anyways, I am speaking of Kingdom of God coming to your neighborhood.
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But jesus didn\\\'t exist.
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Just keep in your little mind, to get amazed next.
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Oh, don\'t get me wrong. I\'m more then willing to believe. Everyday of my life, for 26 years, been waiting for a single act of proof. I guess he\'s too busy? Or is it that i can take a human act of kindness and apply it to the human doing it instead of it being \'jesus\'?
 Quoting: Boland


Jesus is meaningless, His Father is of importance for everyone: the life Giver. You are mortal, aren´t you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


Well now that you mention it, I should of died probably 5 times already. Most NDEs I've had had nothing to do with a 'tunnel' or 'jesus'. It ends with you floating above your body. Then returning. If you fully die however, you continue floating, until you find a suitable new body being made, then you transfer your soul into it. Not once, even with 5 times almost dying, have i ever seen a 'god'. You'd think that would be the perfect time to help change someones faith, ehh?
If you're going to talk about free thought and tell others that they're sheep. You better be accepting of everything in the world and let nothing bother you.
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Unfortunately when you unravel the bible, freedom is not what you find.

The truth is more scary than the bullshit cover story!
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scary or not,
I believe the population deserves
the truth.

some will not be able to handle it.
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Re: There is no proof that Jesus Christ ever existed!
I am speaking of Kingdom of God coming to your neighborhood.
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which God are you referring ??
please reference him by name
so we all know who you are talking
about.
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Just keep in your little mind, to get amazed next.
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Oh, don\\\'t get me wrong. I\\\'m more then willing to believe. Everyday of my life, for 26 years, been waiting for a single act of proof. I guess he\\\'s too busy? Or is it that i can take a human act of kindness and apply it to the human doing it instead of it being \\\'jesus\\\'?
 Quoting: Boland


Jesus is meaningless, His Father is of importance for everyone: the life Giver. You are mortal, aren´t you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


Well now that you mention it, I should of died probably 5 times already. Most NDEs I\'ve had had nothing to do with a \'tunnel\' or \'jesus\'. It ends with you floating above your body. Then returning. If you fully die however, you continue floating, until you find a suitable new body being made, then you transfer your soul into it. Not once, even with 5 times almost dying, have i ever seen a \'god\'. You\'d think that would be the perfect time to help change someones faith, ehh?
 Quoting: Boland


Keep digging. Being spiritual is not enough.
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So keep believing fairytales if it makes you feel better, but sometimes the truth hurts.

There is no evidence whatsoever that Jesus Christ ever existed, and if you think the Bible is evidence, then you should get your head checked.
 Quoting: WTF_is_a_Moniker


Why ppl attention is ever focused on Christ? is there any evidence that the God you believe to or his prophet is ever existed? I don't believe so as there's even not proof that God itself exist but Exist...
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Re: There is no proof that Jesus Christ ever existed!
I am speaking of Kingdom of God coming to your neighborhood.
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which God are you referring ??
please reference him by name
so we all know who you are talking
about.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34664405


The Father of Jesus Christ, the biblical God.
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Oh, don\\\'t get me wrong. I\\\'m more then willing to believe. Everyday of my life, for 26 years, been waiting for a single act of proof. I guess he\\\'s too busy? Or is it that i can take a human act of kindness and apply it to the human doing it instead of it being \\\'jesus\\\'?
 Quoting: Boland


Jesus is meaningless, His Father is of importance for everyone: the life Giver. You are mortal, aren´t you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


Well now that you mention it, I should of died probably 5 times already. Most NDEs I\'ve had had nothing to do with a \'tunnel\' or \'jesus\'. It ends with you floating above your body. Then returning. If you fully die however, you continue floating, until you find a suitable new body being made, then you transfer your soul into it. Not once, even with 5 times almost dying, have i ever seen a \'god\'. You\'d think that would be the perfect time to help change someones faith, ehh?
 Quoting: Boland


Keep digging. Being spiritual is not enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


I'm sorry you need a book telling you how to be a good person, but i don't. I know what it means to be a good person at my own hand and from that I'll live my life in a respect way and I'll go on treating others how they should be treated. Like human beings.
If you're going to talk about free thought and tell others that they're sheep. You better be accepting of everything in the world and let nothing bother you.
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There is a body of evidence
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And of this body of evidence you can't even quote a snippet?

norespect
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There is a body of evidence
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


And of this body of evidence you can't even quote a snippet?

norespect
 Quoting: WTF_is_a_Moniker


The Koran - a book that Christians would find to be anti-God, even declares there was Jesus.
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Typical thick headed American.

I don't understand how people can be so weak minded to believe in all this bs.
I think it's a great idea for people who go from being a shit person to adapting the "christian/catholic lifestyle" but honestly:
-No proof
-So much contradicting it's insane.
-Why would jesus even visit earth when there's probably and endless amount of planets out there with life.
-There is that many damn religions and so many different gods that all created earth... what makes any of all these fake religions more true than the other?

I believe that there's a creator out there but easily way beyond our capabilities of understanding.
I feel sorry for anyone brainwashed/stupid enough to believe in such bullshit.
rant
 Quoting: WTF_is_a_Moniker


this is a problem, a very big problem, people judging each other by themselves... this is not wise.

becuase you don't believe and you think it's bullshit, we must all think so also?

i can't have my belief and you yours without being enemies?

don't hate all christians because many are led astray, take each on his own merit.

i oersoannly don't believe anyone that TRULY knows Christ and teh love of god that is in him could tell you to go to hell or any other thing like that; that is the enemy but they don't know it.

and how many "christians" are truly ot and are only acting as christians to further the hate thevne truly is, you cannot trust they are a christian just because they say they are. they could just as easily be an agent provocateur.


No i'm not enemies, I'm trying to understand the minds of these followers and it frustrates me cause all I can see is brainwashing and being gullible enough to believe it.
With just the tiniest bit of logical/independent thinking you can see so far through religion it's not funny. So are these people just being stubborn? Don't have the capabilities of logical thinking? I don't even know!

I went to a catholic school and my logical mind was put into overdrive every religion class... It infuriated me so much to hear all these contradictions and weird stories all the time.

Exactly... Noone truely knows christ. We barely even know anything about space or earth yet. Going by that our creator would be so far beyond our understanding it's ridiculous, not something that could be put into a book.
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Jesus is meaningless, His Father is of importance for everyone: the life Giver. You are mortal, aren´t you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


Well now that you mention it, I should of died probably 5 times already. Most NDEs I\\\'ve had had nothing to do with a \\\'tunnel\\\' or \\\'jesus\\\'. It ends with you floating above your body. Then returning. If you fully die however, you continue floating, until you find a suitable new body being made, then you transfer your soul into it. Not once, even with 5 times almost dying, have i ever seen a \\\'god\\\'. You\\\'d think that would be the perfect time to help change someones faith, ehh?
 Quoting: Boland


Keep digging. Being spiritual is not enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


I\'m sorry you need a book telling you how to be a good person, but i don\'t. I know what it means to be a good person at my own hand and from that I\'ll live my life in a respect way and I\'ll go on treating others how they should be treated. Like human beings.
 Quoting: Boland



Again, being a good person is not enough either. Holiness is required to come closer to God. The Bible says how is it done.

Don´t eat from \"the Tree\" ANYMORE.
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I am speaking of Kingdom of God coming to your neighborhood.
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which God are you referring ??
please reference him by name
so we all know who you are talking
about.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34664405


The Father of Jesus Christ, the biblical God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


you haven't been paying attention.

Jesus' real birth name is Cesarian,
Pharaoh of Egypt. Got changed to Issa
at the age of 12 yrs old after being
annointed by Cleopatra as Pharaoh of Egypt.
Issa's real earthly father's name was
Julius Caesar, Emperor of Rome.

Is the Kingdom of Julius Caesar coming
to my neighborhood ???
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what about the dead sea scrolls, and the gospel of thomas?
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I am speaking of Kingdom of God coming to your neighborhood.
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which God are you referring ??
please reference him by name
so we all know who you are talking
about.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34664405


The Father of Jesus Christ, the biblical God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


you haven\'t been paying attention.

Jesus\' real birth name is Cesarian,
Pharaoh of Egypt. Got changed to Issa
at the age of 12 yrs old after being
annointed by Cleopatra as Pharaoh of Egypt.
Issa\'s real earthly father\'s name was
Julius Caesar, Emperor of Rome.

Is the Kingdom of Julius Caesar coming
to my neighborhood ???
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Negative. You are on the wrong page of history.
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Well now that you mention it, I should of died probably 5 times already. Most NDEs I\\\'ve had had nothing to do with a \\\'tunnel\\\' or \\\'jesus\\\'. It ends with you floating above your body. Then returning. If you fully die however, you continue floating, until you find a suitable new body being made, then you transfer your soul into it. Not once, even with 5 times almost dying, have i ever seen a \\\'god\\\'. You\\\'d think that would be the perfect time to help change someones faith, ehh?
 Quoting: Boland


Keep digging. Being spiritual is not enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


I\'m sorry you need a book telling you how to be a good person, but i don\'t. I know what it means to be a good person at my own hand and from that I\'ll live my life in a respect way and I\'ll go on treating others how they should be treated. Like human beings.
 Quoting: Boland



Again, being a good person is not enough either. Holiness is required to come closer to God. The Bible says how is it done.

Don´t eat from \"the Tree\" ANYMORE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


If you god thinks that there's more to life then treating others with respect, and using that respect to better yourself as a person. Then fuck your god.
If you're going to talk about free thought and tell others that they're sheep. You better be accepting of everything in the world and let nothing bother you.
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Keep digging. Being spiritual is not enough.
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I\\\'m sorry you need a book telling you how to be a good person, but i don\\\'t. I know what it means to be a good person at my own hand and from that I\\\'ll live my life in a respect way and I\\\'ll go on treating others how they should be treated. Like human beings.
 Quoting: Boland



Again, being a good person is not enough either. Holiness is required to come closer to God. The Bible says how is it done.

Don´t eat from \\\"the Tree\\\" ANYMORE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


If you god thinks that there\'s more to life then treating others with respect, and using that respect to better yourself as a person. Then fuck your god.
 Quoting: Boland


You are imposing something there on God. You cannot harm God, you can to your self yet.
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Re: There is no proof that Jesus Christ ever existed!
The Koran - a book that Christians would find to be anti-God, even declares there was Jesus.
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no, it doesn't.

his name is Issa in the Koran
which is exactly the name
given to Caesarian by Yosef
on the road to India.

Jesus was an English translation
that originated in 1380 AD when
the Greek Ieosus was translated
to English.

In the 735 AD version of the Koran,
it is Issa

but the Koran never says Issa is the
son of God, he is just a prophet.
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The Koran - a book that Christians would find to be anti-God, even declares there was Jesus.
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no, it doesn\'t.

his name is Issa in the Koran
which is exactly the name
given to Caesarian by Yosef
on the road to India.

Jesus was an English translation
that originated in 1380 AD when
the Greek Ieosus was translated
to English.

In the 735 AD version of the Koran,
it is Issa

but the Koran never says Issa is the
son of God, he is just a prophet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34664405


The two lived decades apart.
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So keep believing fairytales if it makes you feel better, but sometimes the truth hurts.

There is no evidence whatsoever that Jesus Christ ever existed, and if you think the Bible is evidence, then you should get your head checked.
 Quoting: WTF_is_a_Moniker


Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and myself founded empires; but what foundation did we rest the creations of our genius? Upon force. Jesus Christ founded an empire upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for Him.
Napoleon Bonaparte

This quote is still true today. Even though you are a fool you must still admit that. There are millions that will give life and take life today in that name. The name gives hope. Hope is real. The name is real. And what is a person but a name that will be remembered. Don't bother replying back. You will not win this for we are many!
Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and myself founded empires; but what foundation did we rest the creations of our genius? Upon force. Jesus Christ founded an empire upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for Him.
Napoleon Bonaparte
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There won't be any proof of you existing either in 2000 years
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Perhaps if He had not raised from the dead...there would be evidence, but it still would not answer the question of your unbelief. We find through scriptures the "fearful and unbelieving..." are the first ones to be cast into the Lake of Fire.
 Quoting: Wingedlion27


That's charming, really. Because I choose to think logically and question unproven statements I'm going to suffer for an eternity in Hell?

Christians are just sad.
 Quoting: WTF_is_a_Moniker



Neither of these are sins, so no thinking logically or questioning unproven statements do not send a person to Hell. But rejecting Jesus Christ as penalty for your sin will send you into an eternal lake of fire. Guarenteed! Weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth, more horrible than you can imagine, and getting out is fairly easy. It just takes a very small amount of faith. If that is too much to ask of such unbelief, then so be it.
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Well now that you mention it, I should of died probably 5 times already. Most NDEs I\\\'ve had had nothing to do with a \\\'tunnel\\\' or \\\'jesus\\\'. It ends with you floating above your body. Then returning. If you fully die however, you continue floating, until you find a suitable new body being made, then you transfer your soul into it. Not once, even with 5 times almost dying, have i ever seen a \\\'god\\\'. You\\\'d think that would be the perfect time to help change someones faith, ehh?
 Quoting: Boland


Keep digging. Being spiritual is not enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


I\'m sorry you need a book telling you how to be a good person, but i don\'t. I know what it means to be a good person at my own hand and from that I\'ll live my life in a respect way and I\'ll go on treating others how they should be treated. Like human beings.
 Quoting: Boland



Again, being a good person is not enough either. Holiness is required to come closer to God. The Bible says how is it done.

Don´t eat from \"the Tree\" ANYMORE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


Why do you use the bible to convince those that believe the bible is bullshit?
Winner takes my car, clean and clear... but if I lose, I take the cash AND I take the respect!
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Keep digging. Being spiritual is not enough.
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I\'m sorry you need a book telling you how to be a good person, but i don\'t. I know what it means to be a good person at my own hand and from that I\'ll live my life in a respect way and I\'ll go on treating others how they should be treated. Like human beings.
 Quoting: Boland



Again, being a good person is not enough either. Holiness is required to come closer to God. The Bible says how is it done.

Don´t eat from \"the Tree\" ANYMORE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


Why do you use the bible to convince those that believe the bible is bullshit?
 Quoting: Capt. Ivan Danko


Because he's christian.
If you're going to talk about free thought and tell others that they're sheep. You better be accepting of everything in the world and let nothing bother you.
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i hurd the byble is reel. plz elabrate.

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