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There is no proof that Jesus Christ ever existed!

 
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Keep digging. Being spiritual is not enough.
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I\\\'m sorry you need a book telling you how to be a good person, but i don\\\'t. I know what it means to be a good person at my own hand and from that I\\\'ll live my life in a respect way and I\\\'ll go on treating others how they should be treated. Like human beings.
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Again, being a good person is not enough either. Holiness is required to come closer to God. The Bible says how is it done.

Don´t eat from \\\"the Tree\\\" ANYMORE.
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Why do you use the bible to convince those that believe the bible is bullshit?
 Quoting: Capt. Ivan Danko


Do I? ... just pinpointing their lack of understanding it.
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...But rejecting Jesus Christ as penalty for your sin will send you into an eternal lake of fire. Guarenteed! Weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth, more horrible than you can imagine...
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Never going to happen.
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...But rejecting Jesus Christ as penalty for your sin will send you into an eternal lake of fire. Guarenteed! Weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth, more horrible than you can imagine...
 Quoting: Wingedlion27


Never going to happen.
 Quoting: Capt. Ivan Danko


You know the phases of realising a truth: first ridicule, denial,...
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...But rejecting Jesus Christ as penalty for your sin will send you into an eternal lake of fire. Guarenteed! Weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth, more horrible than you can imagine...
 Quoting: Wingedlion27


Never going to happen.
 Quoting: Capt. Ivan Danko


You know the phases of realising a truth: first ridicule, denial,...
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You should take your own advice.
If you're going to talk about free thought and tell others that they're sheep. You better be accepting of everything in the world and let nothing bother you.
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I\\\'m sorry you need a book telling you how to be a good person, but i don\\\'t. I know what it means to be a good person at my own hand and from that I\\\'ll live my life in a respect way and I\\\'ll go on treating others how they should be treated. Like human beings.
 Quoting: Boland



Again, being a good person is not enough either. Holiness is required to come closer to God. The Bible says how is it done.

Don´t eat from \\\"the Tree\\\" ANYMORE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


Why do you use the bible to convince those that believe the bible is bullshit?
 Quoting: Capt. Ivan Danko


Do I? ... just pinpointing their lack of understanding it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749

Yes. You do. You said, "Holiness is required to come closer to God. The Bible says how is it done."

How is that going to hold water to someone who thinks your bible is evil?
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Again, being a good person is not enough either. Holiness is required to come closer to God. The Bible says how is it done.

Don´t eat from \\\\\\\"the Tree\\\\\\\" ANYMORE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


Why do you use the bible to convince those that believe the bible is bullshit?
 Quoting: Capt. Ivan Danko


Do I? ... just pinpointing their lack of understanding it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749

Yes. You do. You said, \"Holiness is required to come closer to God. The Bible says how is it done.\"

How is that going to hold water to someone who thinks your bible is evil?
 Quoting: Capt. Ivan Danko


Did I say believe this or that? - No.

Just leting you know what is the Bible about. Up to you what are you going to do about.
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The two lived decades apart.
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Caesarian's history is written
in the Egyptian Calendar.

Jesus' history was written
in the Christian Calendar.

there is a 30 yr difference
between the 2 calendars
since the Egyptian Calendar
had to be transposed to Gregorian
Calendar before it could be
fitted into the Christian
Calendar.

the life of Caesarian/Issa
and the life of Jesus match
perfectly after the calendar
adjustment.

Caesarian born in 47 BC Egyptian
calendar.

30 yr difference leaves Issa born
in 17 BC Christian Calendar.

the Pope recently adjusted that birth date
through a scribe error of 4 yrs earlier.

this leaves 13 yrs

now deduct 1 yr because there is no year
ZERO (0) on the Calendar.

this leaves 12 yrs

which is the exact age that Caesarian
was given the name of ISSA at 12 yrs old
leaving Egypt and traveling through
Jerusalem on the way to India.

the ISSA identity was born in 1 AD
though Caesarian was born in 12 BC
Christian Calendar.

you have to use 1 AD because there is
no year zero, it jumps from 1 BC to 1 AD.
Boland

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The two lived decades apart.
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Caesarian's history is written
in the Egyptian Calendar.

Jesus' history was written
in the Christian Calendar.

there is a 30 yr difference
between the 2 calendars
since the Egyptian Calendar
had to be transposed to Gregorian
Calendar before it could be
fitted into the Christian
Calendar.

the life of Caesarian/Issa
and the life of Jesus match
perfectly after the calendar
adjustment.

Caesarian born in 47 BC Egyptian
calendar.

30 yr difference leaves Issa born
in 17 BC Christian Calendar.

the Pope recently adjusted that birth date
through a scribe error of 4 yrs earlier.

this leaves 13 yrs

now deduct 1 yr because there is no year
ZERO (0) on the Calendar.

this leaves 12 yrs

which is the exact age that Caesarian
was given the name of ISSA at 12 yrs old
leaving Egypt and traveling through
Jerusalem on the way to India.

the ISSA identity was born in 1 AD
though Caesarian was born in 12 BC
Christian Calendar.

you have to use 1 AD because there is
no year zero, it jumps from 1 BC to 1 AD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34664405


annnnnnd

/thread
5a
If you're going to talk about free thought and tell others that they're sheep. You better be accepting of everything in the world and let nothing bother you.
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02/18/2013 09:23 AM
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The Shroud of Turin proves that Jesus existed and it still exists today. Even shows long arms because His arms were pulled out of His sockets. For who? For us!

[link to www.thewarningsecondcoming.com]

You don't believe this! Then what is there to believe? You have nothing to believe in and your future is bleak.

After The Warning, you will get something.... This can happen anytime now....

[link to www.thewarningsecondcoming.com]

Where there is love there is Jesus.
Where there is hate there is Satan.

Jesus loves each and every one of us no matter what we have done. All you need to do is to ask Him to be your Lord and Savior.
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02/18/2013 09:27 AM
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The two lived decades apart.
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Caesarian\'s history is written
in the Egyptian Calendar.

Jesus\' history was written
in the Christian Calendar.

there is a 30 yr difference
between the 2 calendars
since the Egyptian Calendar
had to be transposed to Gregorian
Calendar before it could be
fitted into the Christian
Calendar.

the life of Caesarian/Issa
and the life of Jesus match
perfectly after the calendar
adjustment.

Caesarian born in 47 BC Egyptian
calendar.

30 yr difference leaves Issa born
in 17 BC Christian Calendar.

the Pope recently adjusted that birth date
through a scribe error of 4 yrs earlier.

this leaves 13 yrs

now deduct 1 yr because there is no year
ZERO (0) on the Calendar.

this leaves 12 yrs

which is the exact age that Caesarian
was given the name of ISSA at 12 yrs old
leaving Egypt and traveling through
Jerusalem on the way to India.

the ISSA identity was born in 1 AD
though Caesarian was born in 12 BC
Christian Calendar.

you have to use 1 AD because there is
no year zero, it jumps from 1 BC to 1 AD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34664405


My fairytale is better though:

[link to www.youtube.com]

... meaning no physical father of Jesus Christ.
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02/18/2013 09:29 AM
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My fairytale is better though:

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Kent Hovind ??
Is that really you ??

I didn't think they allowed prisoners
to use internet forums ??
Capt. Ivan Danko

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02/18/2013 09:31 AM
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The Shroud of Turin proves that Jesus existed and it still exists today. Even shows long arms because His arms were pulled out of His sockets. For who? For us!

[link to www.thewarningsecondcoming.com]

You don't believe this! Then what is there to believe? You have nothing to believe in and your future is bleak.

After The Warning, you will get something.... This can happen anytime now....

[link to www.thewarningsecondcoming.com]

Where there is love there is Jesus.
Where there is hate there is Satan.

Jesus loves each and every one of us no matter what we have done. All you need to do is to ask Him to be your Lord and Savior.
 Quoting: gatzster


This proves nothing.
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My fairytale is better though:

[link to www.youtube.com]

... meaning no physical father of Jesus Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


I have already said Ron Wyatt
was a con artist who stole
people's money

[link to tentmaker.org]

Christians are so gullible
when it comes to money and
their belief system.

and Ron and Kent took them
for hundreds of thousands of
dollars

I thought this was already made clear
in my prior post ??
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02/18/2013 09:36 AM
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My fairytale is better though:

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


Kent Hovind ??
Is that really you ??

I didn\'t think they allowed prisoners
to use internet forums ??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34664405


Read further here, other findings with plenty photo material presented:

[link to www.anchorstone.com]

Don´t do work of shills for nothing. LOL
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02/18/2013 09:37 AM

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Perhaps if He had not raised from the dead...there would be evidence, but it still would not answer the question of your unbelief. We find through scriptures the "fearful and unbelieving..." are the first ones to be cast into the Lake of Fire.
 Quoting: Wingedlion27


That's charming, really. Because I choose to think logically and question unproven statements I'm going to suffer for an eternity in Hell?

Christians are just sad.
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Neither of these are sins, so no thinking logically or questioning unproven statements do not send a person to Hell. But rejecting Jesus Christ as penalty for your sin will send you into an eternal lake of fire. Guarenteed! Weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth, more horrible than you can imagine, and getting out is fairly easy. It just takes a very small amount of faith. If that is too much to ask of such unbelief, then so be it.
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Too bad OP is wise enough to see through the man-made false doctrines that were specifically created to scare 'unbelievers' into submission and ultimately place them under the control and authority of the church.

Please try a different approach.

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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My fairytale is better though:

[link to www.youtube.com]

... meaning no physical father of Jesus Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


I have already said Ron Wyatt
was a con artist who stole
people\'s money

[link to tentmaker.org]

Christians are so gullible
when it comes to money and
their belief system.

and Ron and Kent took them
for hundreds of thousands of
dollars

I thought this was already made clear
in my prior post ??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34664405


Sure, he scamed all the findings, not just the Ark. How gullible from you.

Nevermind, you cannot do anything about facts. They are much older and bigger than you and your pity life.
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Jesus never existed?! Next you'll be telling us Superman isn't real, and the Incredible Hulk is just from a comic book. You have to have a little imagination when it comes to these things, Jesus is as just as real as p i x i e s, or Santa Claus. You just have to believe!
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Too bad OP is wise enough to see through the man-made false doctrines that were specifically created to scare 'unbelievers' into submission and ultimately place them under the control and authority of the church.
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yep, that is pretty much
what the church did

religion was the ultimate
terror incentive to create
Roman debt slaves.

which is exactly the
forefather of our current
system of debt slavery.
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So keep believing fairytales if it makes you feel better, but sometimes the truth hurts.

There is no evidence whatsoever that Jesus Christ ever existed, and if you think the Bible is evidence, then you should get your head checked.
 Quoting: WTF_is_a_Moniker


No proof that wind exists either other than we can see and feel it's effects.

These numbers below show that with this many of an entire "world" population believing...there is much truth to it:

World population broken down into religious affiliations and non-affiliated as of 2010:

31.5% of world population - Christians
23.2% - Muslims
16.3% - non-affiliated
15.0% - Hindus
7.1% - Buddhists
5.9% - Folk Reliionists
0.8% - other religions
0.2% - Jews

This is % of the world population of 7,584,821,144 broken down. I would certainly say there is much proof in these numbers.
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Out of all the things in this world to hate, you choose the profit of love.. says a lot.
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Some prophet of love. Revelation 2:23
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Prove to me the air you breath?

Prove to me the gravity that keeps you planted?

Do you need proof of those? Your answer will be typical but the Jesus isnt.

You are exactly where Satan wants you to be.
I will pray for you.
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So keep believing fairytales if it makes you feel better, but sometimes the truth hurts.

There is no evidence whatsoever that Jesus Christ ever existed, and if you think the Bible is evidence, then you should get your head checked.
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No one is as blind as he who does not want to see. You will not recognise Him if he stand in front of you. Or wil you, you Satanist are active on the site again today.
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So keep believing fairytales if it makes you feel better, but sometimes the truth hurts.

There is no evidence whatsoever that Jesus Christ ever existed, and if you think the Bible is evidence, then you should get your head checked.
 Quoting: WTF_is_a_Moniker


(This was intended to reply to the first post, ignore the reply to the other)


Prove to me the air you breath?

Prove to me the gravity that keeps you planted?

Do you need proof of those? Your answer will be typical but the Jesus isnt.

You are exactly where Satan wants you to be.
I will pray for you.
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No one is as blind as he who does not want to see. You will not recognize Him if he stand in front of you. Or wil you, you Satanist are active on the site again today.
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I am not a Satanist.
I am a truther.
All I want is the truth.

Having the truth gives me
the option of having a real choice
other than a choice already made for me
through lies, manipulation and terror.
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So keep believing fairytales if it makes you feel better, but sometimes the truth hurts.

There is no evidence whatsoever that Jesus Christ ever existed, and if you think the Bible is evidence, then you should get your head checked.
 Quoting: WTF_is_a_Moniker


No proof that wind exists either other than we can see and feel it's effects.

These numbers below show that with this many of an entire "world" population believing...there is much truth to it:

World population broken down into religious affiliations and non-affiliated as of 2010:

31.5% of world population - Christians
23.2% - Muslims
16.3% - non-affiliated
15.0% - Hindus
7.1% - Buddhists
5.9% - Folk Reliionists
0.8% - other religions
0.2% - Jews

This is % of the world population of 7,584,821,144 broken down. I would certainly say there is much proof in these numbers.
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Everyone feels the wind. EVERYONE. If you have a crowd in an open field and the wind blows, everyone will feel it. It isn't open to interpretation. No one can say, "I don't feel it" and be honest. Now, however you can all be in a church and have half the crowd say "I feel the holy spirit" and the other half says "I do not".

Not possible with the wind because it actually is real. Half the church crowd could just be either delusional or interpreting their emotions and feelings to be "the holy spirit" We don't even know if everyone that claims they're feeling the holy spirit is in fact feeling the same thing.
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Jesus said,when he came back there would be very little faith left in him. Guess the time is ripe for his arrival. Plus,those with unbreakable faith recieve the prize. How do you know tha he has'nt already married his bride secretly? I have good reasons for believing ,and that is without following any religion either.
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Jesus never existed?! Next you'll be telling us Superman isn't real, and the Incredible Hulk is just from a comic book. You have to have a little imagination when it comes to these things, Jesus is as just as real as p i x i e s, or Santa Claus. You just have to believe!
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They say Jesus never existed,but RA and Isis did.
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The Holy Bible is all the proof I need.
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Typical thick headed American.

I don't understand how people can be so weak minded to believe in all this bs.
I think it's a great idea for people who go from being a shit person to adapting the "christian/catholic lifestyle" but honestly:
-No proof
-So much contradicting it's insane.
-Why would jesus even visit earth when there's probably and endless amount of planets out there with life.
-There is that many damn religions and so many different gods that all created earth... what makes any of all these fake religions more true than the other?

I believe that there's a creator out there but easily way beyond our capabilities of understanding.
I feel sorry for anyone brainwashed/stupid enough to believe in such bullshit.
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 Quoting: WTF_is_a_Moniker


this is a problem, a very big problem, people judging each other by themselves... this is not wise.

becuase you don't believe and you think it's bullshit, we must all think so also?

i can't have my belief and you yours without being enemies?

don't hate all christians because many are led astray, take each on his own merit.

i oersoannly don't believe anyone that TRULY knows Christ and teh love of god that is in him could tell you to go to hell or any other thing like that; that is the enemy but they don't know it.

and how many "christians" are truly ot and are only acting as christians to further the hate thevne truly is, you cannot trust they are a christian just because they say they are. they could just as easily be an agent provocateur.
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No i'm not enemies, I'm trying to understand the minds of these followers and it frustrates me cause all I can see is brainwashing and being gullible enough to believe it.
With just the tiniest bit of logical/independent thinking you can see so far through religion it's not funny. So are these people just being stubborn? Don't have the capabilities of logical thinking? I don't even know!

I went to a catholic school and my logical mind was put into overdrive every religion class... It infuriated me so much to hear all these contradictions and weird stories all the time.

Exactly... Noone truely knows christ. We barely even know anything about space or earth yet. Going by that our creator would be so far beyond our understanding it's ridiculous, not something that could be put into a book.



Aman wrote:

It is something that could be put in a book, but the book is only confirmation of something believed. I believed, but not because of the book, or any book. I believe because he has made himself known to me.

Since he has made himself known I have looked in the book and found evidence to solidify that belief, but as I have said, he came first.

It would be impossible, as you have said, to put him into a book for he is far too much for that. However, enough could be written that those who are seeking can confirm what is already in them.

The hardest thing for a man to do is believe, it's downright preposterous and would seem great folly; but in that is much wisdom. The only thing that I can see that each man believes without question is his own views, everyone else a liar.

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The Holy Bible is all the proof I need.
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It is so sad that someone can hand you a book, tell you that god wrote it, and you just swallow it hook line and sinker... no questions asked.
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Aman wrote:

It is something that could be put in a book, but the book is only confirmation of something believed. I believed, but not because of the book, or any book. I believe because he has made himself known to me.

Since he has made himself known I have looked in the book and found evidence to solidify that belief, but as I have said, he came first.

It would be impossible, as you have said, to put him into a book for he is far too much for that. However, enough could be written that those who are seeking can confirm what is already in them.

The hardest thing for a man to do is believe, it's downright preposterous and would seem great folly; but in that is much wisdom. The only thing that I can see that each man believes without question is his own views, everyone else a liar.
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How exactly has he "made himself known" to you?
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