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There is no proof that Jesus Christ ever existed!

 
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Where is a link about this priest using an unknown language? This claim seems to only be coming from you!

If I told you that I had a Pegasus in my apartment would you just believe me based on my claim alone?

Provide a link or shut up.
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02/18/2013 02:17 PM
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Where is a link about this priest using an unknown language? This claim seems to only be coming from you!

If I told you that I had a Pegasus in my apartment would you just believe me based on my claim alone?

Provide a link or shut up.
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You stated it was debunked.

Then common sense tells me, you're already aware of this.

Don't start making lies and claims you can't back up.
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You are such a sorry little ...........

Seems kind of funny that our very age is given over to BC and AD for no evidence.
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Re: There is no proof that Jesus Christ ever existed!
You are the only one making lies and claims you cannot back up.

You keep mentioning a vague example of an exorcism where a priest spoke in a language the possessed did not know but responded to.

You have yet to provide a SPECIFIC example of what particular case you are referencing.

All previous ones HAVE been debunked as hoaxes.

You are mentioning an unknown one that you claim is legit.

Provide a link to this if it is evidence.

If you can't then you are just lying.
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This is interesting.
[link to bede.org.uk]
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You are the only one making lies and claims you cannot back up.

You keep mentioning a vague example of an exorcism where a priest spoke in a language the possessed did not know but responded to.

You have yet to provide a SPECIFIC example of what particular case you are referencing.

All previous ones HAVE been debunked as hoaxes.

You are mentioning an unknown one that you claim is legit.

Provide a link to this if it is evidence.

If you can't then you are just lying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12131405


Well, here's one case I mentioned.

It's not in a link, it's a book, regarding the girl, falling from a slide.

The book is '6 big angels' by Pennington

Regarding the exorcist case, it's mentioned in an exorcist documentary by Flood cellar productions.
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Re: There is no proof that Jesus Christ ever existed!
All accounts of Jesus are hearsay. I do probably believe there was a man named Jesus and he probably was an eccentric preacher but to say he was divine and the son of god is just absurd.
 Quoting: LSDreamer


Gee... Who should I believe in?

All the prophets of God, the Disciples, The Apostles, and Jesus the Christ...

Or...

Some clueless, ignorant, internet clown, who keeps spamming the board everyday with his obsessive compulsive, demonically inspired, antichrist garbage.

Gawrsh... Let me think about that, and get back to you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34670369


That means you're on here everyday to read it.

You go ahead and believe it kiddo, I'm not stopping you.
 Quoting: LSDreamer




You go right ahead and disbelieve. Doesn't effect my own future one iota. My only job is to blow a trumpet, ad bear witness. After that, no blood on my hands. I'll just shake the dust from my feet as a witness against you, as the Master instructed.

Have a day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34670369


Actually, if you believe and confess Jesus as your Savior then that is not your only job. Your real job is to be a witness with the fruits of your labor. People should be able to know who you are without you having to tell people.
Followers of Jesus are to set examples that others want to follow. Just talk will never cut it, and that's straight from what he preached. To bad there are so many lukewarm Christians, the world could be such a much better place 2000 years later.
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That 6 Big Big Angels book is just more bullshit. Where is a report or photographs or a news article or a news report of what occured?

The only record of the absurd claims are in the book and they are selling it for profit and obviously the girl can't write a book so it then brings up the need for a ghostwriter and then the grandparents dictating most of it.

Not evidence.

What is the name of the exorcism documentary? Why are you always so vague in your responses when I ask for specifics? Saying the name of a production company is useless.
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That 6 Big Big Angels book is just more bullshit. Where is a report or photographs or a news article or a news report of what occured?

The only record of the absurd claims are in the book and they are selling it for profit and obviously the girl can't write a book so it then brings up the need for a ghostwriter and then the grandparents dictating most of it.

Not evidence.

What is the name of the exorcism documentary? Why are you always so vague in your responses when I ask for specifics? Saying the name of a production company is useless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12131405


If this was an isolated case, regarding the girl, I would be more skeptical, but there's multiple cases, detailing much of the exact same thing.

So although it's not proof, it's evidence. And you have no proof to debunk the case.

It's not vague, it's the only exorcist documentary by the production company. If you did a simple google search you would find it.


Since that's too much work for you, here's a direct link:
[link to www.amazon.com]
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That 6 Big Big Angels book is just more bullshit. Where is a report or photographs or a news article or a news report of what occured?

The only record of the absurd claims are in the book and they are selling it for profit and obviously the girl can't write a book so it then brings up the need for a ghostwriter and then the grandparents dictating most of it.

Not evidence.

What is the name of the exorcism documentary? Why are you always so vague in your responses when I ask for specifics? Saying the name of a production company is useless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12131405


I think from here on out we're just going to get more anecdotes that are the equivalent of "My uncle said..." posts here on GLP as far as credibility goes.
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That 6 Big Big Angels book is just more bullshit. Where is a report or photographs or a news article or a news report of what occured?

The only record of the absurd claims are in the book and they are selling it for profit and obviously the girl can't write a book so it then brings up the need for a ghostwriter and then the grandparents dictating most of it.

Not evidence.

What is the name of the exorcism documentary? Why are you always so vague in your responses when I ask for specifics? Saying the name of a production company is useless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12131405


I think from here on out we're just going to get more anecdotes that are the equivalent of "My uncle said..." posts here on GLP as far as credibility goes.
 Quoting: Capt. Ivan Danko


Well, regarding the evidence of Mt. Zion, and the split boulder, there's a video documentary, where you can see it for yourself.

In addition, there's other people, who also show footage of this exact same thing.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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Re: There is no proof that Jesus Christ ever existed!
Evidence and proof are the same thing genius.

The 6 big angels book is neither.

That documentary looks ridiculous as well.

If they only made that one then it is most likely actors being used.

Did you even see the "documentary"?

A filmed production can call itself a documentary even if it is not.

Look at Catfish and Capturing the Friedmans for examples of this.

@Ivan Danko, yeah they got nothin!
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I live. Oh shit I forgot my first name was Adolf.
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Re: There is no proof that Jesus Christ ever existed!
Evidence and proof are the same thing genius.

The 6 big angels book is neither.

That documentary looks ridiculous as well.

If they only made that one then it is most likely actors being used.

Did you even see the "documentary"?

A filmed production can call itself a documentary even if it is not.

Look at Catfish and Capturing the Friedmans for examples of this.

@Ivan Danko, yeah they got nothin!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12131405


Still waiting for your 'proof' to debunk these cases.

Using your logic, one can state, all cases in books are essentially frauds, since the author solely is doing it for money.
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Re: There is no proof that Jesus Christ ever existed!
Go visit a hospital of children dying of cancer.

They will give you a better perspective of life, death and their hope..
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Re: There is no proof that Jesus Christ ever existed!
Go visit a hospital of children dying of cancer.

They will give you a better perspective of life, death and their hope..
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You would actually use dying children as a propaganda tool for your faith? Go figure.

Unless of course, I have just misread what you wrote.

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Re: There is no proof that Jesus Christ ever existed!
Evidence and proof are the same thing genius.

The 6 big angels book is neither.

That documentary looks ridiculous as well.

If they only made that one then it is most likely actors being used.

Did you even see the "documentary"?

A filmed production can call itself a documentary even if it is not.

Look at Catfish and Capturing the Friedmans for examples of this.

@Ivan Danko, yeah they got nothin!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12131405


Still waiting for your 'proof' to debunk these cases.

Using your logic, one can state, all cases in books are essentially frauds, since the author solely is doing it for money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34688874


Also evidence is not the same as proof.

Evidence, helps indicate if something is true. Although, it doesn't mean, it's true.

Proof, on the other hand, shows that something is true.
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Re: There is no proof that Jesus Christ ever existed!
Go visit a hospital of children dying of cancer.

They will give you a better perspective of life, death and their hope..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32538141


You would actually use dying children as a propaganda tool for your faith? Go figure.

Unless of course, I have just misread what you wrote.
 Quoting: LSDreamer


You misread what I wrote.

Dying children often have lived an entire life time and

are often very mature for their age.

THey have often died and been brought back trough technology

and have a real

mature perspective on death , living and the process of dying

and what awaits them on the other side

that adults

some will never have.

I know ; I was an RN for many years and have encountered

many young children

dying way before their time ....


but having a deep sense of knowledge of what is waiting for them
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Re: There is no proof that Jesus Christ ever existed!
Stupid books with parents or grandparents claiming their kid saw Jeebus is not evidence. It's pure conjecture and baseless stories.

If this is supposed to be evidence then you must think that being accused of a crime by a random person is enough for you to be convicted and sent to prison when the only "evidence" is someone saying you committed the crime.

You would then not defend yourself or refute their claims nor ask for some physical evidence to give a reason for the accusation.

Do you see why your logic is flawed?
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If there are any students of history here... You may want to take a look at this:

[link to carm.org]

I'm assuming you all know who Josephus was, don't you ?
Flavius Josephus was a Jewish priest at the time of the Jewish Revolt of A.D. 66

Now... prove that Jesus didn't exist !!!!
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Re: There is no proof that Jesus Christ ever existed!
No you moron, proof and evidence are the same fucking thing.

Are you really THAT stupid?
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Re: There is no proof that Jesus Christ ever existed!
Then what does BC and AD mean?
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Thats because our society used the gregorian calendar you dumb mother fucker...
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Re: There is no proof that Jesus Christ ever existed!
So keep believing fairytales if it makes you feel better, but sometimes the truth hurts.

There is no evidence whatsoever that Jesus Christ ever existed, and if you think the Bible is evidence, then you should get your head checked.
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You believe it or not///your choice. I choose to.
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Re: There is no proof that Jesus Christ ever existed!
Josephus did not live at the claimed period of Jesus and his writings were tampered with to add references to Jesus.

More hearsay accounts, not eyewitness.

Not evidence.

Try again.
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Re: There is no proof that Jesus Christ ever existed!
Stupid books with parents or grandparents claiming their kid saw Jeebus is not evidence. It's pure conjecture and baseless stories.

If this is supposed to be evidence then you must think that being accused of a crime by a random person is enough for you to be convicted and sent to prison when the only "evidence" is someone saying you committed the crime.

You would then not defend yourself or refute their claims nor ask for some physical evidence to give a reason for the accusation.

Do you see why your logic is flawed?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12131405


As stated, here there's multiple cases, who stated, they saw the exact same thing, as the girl.

In addition, there are various other evidences, that further supports what's being seen.

If a judge, came across 50 witlessness, who described the rapist in exact detail, would you automatically assume they were all lying?

If so, what actual evidence do you have that they're all lying?
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Re: There is no proof that Jesus Christ ever existed!
No you moron, proof and evidence are the same fucking thing.

Are you really THAT stupid?
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grab a dictionairy
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Re: There is no proof that Jesus Christ ever existed!
No you moron, proof and evidence are the same fucking thing.

Are you really THAT stupid?
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grab a dictionairy
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Evidence - The available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.

Proof -Evidence sufficient to establish a thing as true
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i have nothing to do with that or any church... you make assumptions based on your hatred of "christians"... but you do not know me.
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I don't hate Christians.
I think they are victims.
I feel sorry for them as
I used to be one.
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Its unfortunate you didnt learn anything, knowing Jesus then denying him. Say Hello
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Re: There is no proof that Jesus Christ ever existed!
So keep believing fairytales if it makes you feel better, but sometimes the truth hurts.

There is no evidence whatsoever that Jesus Christ ever existed, and if you think the Bible is evidence, then you should get your head checked.
 Quoting: WTF_is_a_Moniker


Simple proof.

This year is 2013AD
AD - after the death of Jesus Christ.

They tried to change it to BCE and CE,
Without Jesus we are lost in time.
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Re: There is no proof that Jesus Christ ever existed!
I said if ONE person accused you of a crime in the absence of any other evidence by your logic you would just accept the accusation and agree to go to prison.

If a woman is raped and a crowd sees it happen, it is now 50 witnesses but even if this is the case a rape kit and dna evidence is still required in a court of law before they would be convicted.

Maybe it was just rough sex, maybe the woman decided to accuse him of
rape to be vindictive. There are many variables before there can be a conviction.

Cases first have to be PROVEN with EVIDENCE. You say these books are proof, but where is the evidence?

One can not rely on testimony alone.

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