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There is no proof that Jesus Christ ever existed!

 
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So keep believing fairytales if it makes you feel better, but sometimes the truth hurts.

There is no evidence whatsoever that Jesus Christ ever existed, and if you think the Bible is evidence, then you should get your head checked.
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you re just trying to start a fight. What do you care if Jesus existed or not, if you dont believe that is your choice.
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Out of all the things in this world to hate, you choose the profit of love.. says a lot.
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Wow, Freudian slip or what?
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okay okay.. gimme the spelling video
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So keep believing fairytales if it makes you feel better, but sometimes the truth hurts.

There is no evidence whatsoever that Jesus Christ ever existed, and if you think the Bible is evidence, then you should get your head checked.
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you re just trying to start a fight. What do you care if Jesus existed or not, if you dont believe that is your choice.
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I'm interested.....
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you re just trying to start a fight. What do you care if Jesus existed or not, if you dont believe that is your choice.
 Quoting: Ozi dude 9004403


No

just explaining truth

if the believers still want to believe
in the fantasy after being told the truth,
then that is their own fault.

they have been force feed a Roman Psy-Op.
The Psy-Op is revealed as such and it's
true characters and writers have been revealed.

But the vatican didn't get to be the single
richest entity on earth

by giving you truth

they profited off the Psy-Op
and still do today with the
Vatican Bank.
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Re: There is no proof that Jesus Christ ever existed!
The fable known as Jesus.

A child was born out of wedlock
in Alexandria Egypt. His name
was Cessarian. His father was
Julius Caesar and his mother
was Cleopatra.

Upon Caesar's death, Cleopatra sent
Cessarian to India with an armed
convoy. Miriam was Cleopatras'
most trusted maid servant and
Yosef of Arimithia was her uncle
who sold Miriam into slavery
to Cleopatra. These 2 became
Cessarian's adoptive parents
(Joseph and Mary).

Cessarian left Egypt when he was
12 yrs old and Yosef used the spice
route to get Cessarian to Tibet.
On the road to Tibet, Yosef gave
him a new identity to protect him
from harm since Cessarian was a
wanted fugitive by Emperor Octavian
(Augustus Caesar).

His new name became Issa.

translated Issa means son of Isis,
which Cleopatra considered herself
the reincarnation of Isis. The Greek
translation was Iesous. Translated to
English 1380 AD (Wycliff, Tyndale) = Jesus.
Issa in Aramaic = Salvation, Protection.
Issa was named this by Yosef so he could
return to Egypt later and save Egypt from
Roman rule, not to save mankind since Egypt
was under Roman occupation.

Issa arrived at the Hemis Buddhist
monestary at the age of 14 in Tibet
where he learned Buddhist practices
of healing with herbs and prayer, walking
on water, raising the dead with prayer, etc..

Issa stayed in Tibet til he was 28 yrs old
then left for Alexandria Egypt to find his
half sister Selene (Mary Magdelena) who was
also Cleopatra's younger daughter to help him
regain his rightful throne of Egypt. Issa
was a Ptolemy King by birthright.

Once he got to Egypt he not only found
Selene his half sister but also found
his half brother James (Helios) whom both assisted
him to regain his throne of both Egypt
and Rome.

There was an active Psy-Op by Issa to dethrone
Octavian (Emperor Augustus Caesar). Issa
was going to use religion and Buddhist spirituality
to regain his kingdom thus his ministry started.

Since Issa was only half Roman, he was not accepted
by the Romans and his Roman half was not accepted
by Hebrews which is why he was crucified.

However, Issa knew healing herbs and used
them during his crucifiction. His adopted father
bribed a Roman guard to give him a sleeping agent
in the vinegar he recieved on the cross. This agent
induced a comatose state of death but he did not die.
He was placed in a tomb where his body was
annointed with aloes and healing gels til he
awakened from his sleeping agent.

His hopes of becoming ruler of an empire was
put asunder at that point since he was not accepted by either
Romans or Hebrews so he made his way back to
Tibet where he died at age 80 after having married
and having a son by the name of Eli Kim.
This birth is noted on the stone walls of the
Temple of Solomon in Tibet as Issa being the father
when he was 54 yrs old.

Issa's burial tomb is in Srinagar India, better known
as Kashmir region.

Issa never claimed to be the son of God. This was
added by the Romans later as a Psy-Op against
the Hebrew Tribes during the Hebrew Wars.

This happened many yrs later when wealthy aristocratic
Roman families used Issa's story to divide and conquer
the Hebrew war tribes. They wrote that Issa was the
savior of the Jews so that the Jews would no longer
fight Rome and be good slaves to the Roman Empire.

So your Christianity was actually a Psy-Op that
the Romans reversed to use to their advantage.

and the truth is revealed.

Cessarian = Issa = Jesus
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There is a body of evidence
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^^^THIS^^^ +100
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Jesus Christ = Real
OP = Fake

5a
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Jesus Christ = Real
OP = Fake

5a
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geez, I truly despise the Romans for turning
the religitards into mind controlled zombies.

do you even know what Christ means or where it
came from ???

or do you just mimic what you have been
brainwashed to say ??

The title Christ is derived from the Greek term
(Khristós) meaning "the anointed one";
covered in oil, anointed, itself from the above
mentioned word Keres.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Issa was Khristos because he was an Egyptian
Pharaoh Cesarian. It was custom for Egyptian Pharaohs
to be anointed. It does not mean savior
of the world. It means anointed one.

Christ is the English translation of the Greek
Khristós.

google Egyptian Pharaoh anointing with oil.
This pre-dates Christianity by 1,000 yrs.
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Do we need to revive the all Christians are Idiots thread?
Jesus never existed.
He is a fictional character based on Josephus, Titus and Apollonius. Did you know that Plutarch was Luke?
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so you are saying Jesus existed..just by another name.
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The fable known as Jesus.

A child was born out of wedlock
in Alexandria Egypt. His name
was Cessarian. His father was
Julius Caesar and his mother
was Cleopatra.

Upon Caesar's death, Cleopatra sent
Cessarian to India with an armed
convoy. Miriam was Cleopatras'
most trusted maid servant and
Yosef of Arimithia was her uncle
who sold Miriam into slavery
to Cleopatra. These 2 became
Cessarian's adoptive parents
(Joseph and Mary).

Cessarian left Egypt when he was
12 yrs old and Yosef used the spice
route to get Cessarian to Tibet.
On the road to Tibet, Yosef gave
him a new identity to protect him
from harm since Cessarian was a
wanted fugitive by Emperor Octavian
(Augustus Caesar).

His new name became Issa.

translated Issa means son of Isis,
which Cleopatra considered herself
the reincarnation of Isis. The Greek
translation was Iesous. Translated to
English 1380 AD (Wycliff, Tyndale) = Jesus.
Issa in Aramaic = Salvation, Protection.
Issa was named this by Yosef so he could
return to Egypt later and save Egypt from
Roman rule, not to save mankind since Egypt
was under Roman occupation.

Issa arrived at the Hemis Buddhist
monestary at the age of 14 in Tibet
where he learned Buddhist practices
of healing with herbs and prayer, walking
on water, raising the dead with prayer, etc..

Issa stayed in Tibet til he was 28 yrs old
then left for Alexandria Egypt to find his
half sister Selene (Mary Magdelena) who was
also Cleopatra's younger daughter to help him
regain his rightful throne of Egypt. Issa
was a Ptolemy King by birthright.

Once he got to Egypt he not only found
Selene his half sister but also found
his half brother James (Helios) whom both assisted
him to regain his throne of both Egypt
and Rome.

There was an active Psy-Op by Issa to dethrone
Octavian (Emperor Augustus Caesar). Issa
was going to use religion and Buddhist spirituality
to regain his kingdom thus his ministry started.

Since Issa was only half Roman, he was not accepted
by the Romans and his Roman half was not accepted
by Hebrews which is why he was crucified.

However, Issa knew healing herbs and used
them during his crucifiction. His adopted father
bribed a Roman guard to give him a sleeping agent
in the vinegar he recieved on the cross. This agent
induced a comatose state of death but he did not die.
He was placed in a tomb where his body was
annointed with aloes and healing gels til he
awakened from his sleeping agent.

His hopes of becoming ruler of an empire was
put asunder at that point since he was not accepted by either
Romans or Hebrews so he made his way back to
Tibet where he died at age 80 after having married
and having a son by the name of Eli Kim.
This birth is noted on the stone walls of the
Temple of Solomon in Tibet as Issa being the father
when he was 54 yrs old.

Issa's burial tomb is in Srinagar India, better known
as Kashmir region.

Issa never claimed to be the son of God. This was
added by the Romans later as a Psy-Op against
the Hebrew Tribes during the Hebrew Wars.

This happened many yrs later when wealthy aristocratic
Roman families used Issa's story to divide and conquer
the Hebrew war tribes. They wrote that Issa was the
savior of the Jews so that the Jews would no longer
fight Rome and be good slaves to the Roman Empire.

So your Christianity was actually a Psy-Op that
the Romans reversed to use to their advantage.

and the truth is revealed.

Cessarian = Issa = Jesus
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How many years have you invested in researching this subject matter? That's quite a lot of information you shared.
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Jesus Christ = Real
OP = Fake

5a
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geez, I truly despise the Romans for turning
the religitards into mind controlled zombies.

do you even know what Christ means or where it
came from ???

or do you just mimic what you have been
brainwashed to say ??

The title Christ is derived from the Greek term
(Khristós) meaning "the anointed one";
covered in oil, anointed, itself from the above
mentioned word Keres.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Issa was Khristos because he was an Egyptian
Pharaoh Cesarian. It was custom for Egyptian Pharaohs
to be anointed. It does not mean savior
of the world. It means anointed one.

Christ is the English translation of the Greek
Khristós.

google Egyptian Pharaoh anointing with oil.
This pre-dates Christianity by 1,000 yrs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34664405


pic of Egyptian Pharaoh anointing ceremony

[link to www.heavenlyascents.com]

Casarian was also annointed as Pharaoh of Egypt
BEFORE Cleopatra sent him away to India hence
the title of Kristous. The annointed one.
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How many years have you invested in researching this subject matter?
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7 years

and I am still working on it.
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02/18/2013 07:27 AM
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The title oozes truth
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How many years have you invested in researching this subject matter?
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7 years

and I am still working on it.
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Have you by any chance read the text 'Christ In Egypt'? If so, your thoughts?
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Some of us don't need proof as He lives in our hearts.hf

Gogbless and Godspeed.
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Go to your newspaper archives and read up on what happened between the period 1933 - 1963 and beyond, covering the ministry of the 20th century prophet Rev William Marrion Branahm and see the pictures, there you will see the second return of Jesus in action. If you want to you can listen to and read the messages Christ gave to the world to help them in their exodus out of the modern Egypt as they cross over from this world into the next world which right here on earth, there you will hear mighty voices shouting "I AM THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, IZAAK AND JACOB" any you will hear many voices Saying "WITNESSES" "WITNESSES" "WITNESSES". This world of sin is removed from God's presence and Christ's children take over this earth, it belongs them them as promised. As John the Baptist was here on earth when Christ showed His first return, so was Rev Branham on earth when Christ showed His second return. Look at the evidence, Christ is the same today, yesterday and always He does not arrive here according to the figment of a person's imagination. People looking out for Him are those who have faith and are waiting and they know The Sign that would show He is here. The Sign is reading the intents of your thoughts and heart and performing great miracles and fulfilling ancient prophecies as shown in the Bible, it happened twice already. The Bible said people would be fast asleep! I would avoid searching on the internet due to manipulations but if you look from a raw source in a newspaper of that time, you will certainly discover.
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So keep believing fairytales if it makes you feel better, but sometimes the truth hurts.

There is no evidence whatsoever that Jesus Christ ever existed, and if you think the Bible is evidence, then you should get your head checked.
 Quoting: WTF_is_a_Moniker


...and there is no evidence that he didn't exist.

you say we cannot prove he existed; i say you cannot prove he didn't.

i will tell you this, i know he exists because he is in me and i carry that witness with me; i do not believe in a book, i believe in whom the book has led me to, i believe in he who has revealed himself to me.

"science" and "teaching" has conditioned you to believe nothing without proof... what a weapon against the truth!

I THANK GOD FOR FAITH and for his Son Jesus Christ!
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Have you by any chance read the text 'Christ In Egypt'? If so, your thoughts?
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I am familiar with the theory
but I have not read Murdock's book.

I think the Kristous (Christ) did originate in
Egypt, but the Roman Psy-Op version
we now know as the New Testament originated in
60 AD by Lucius Calpurnicus Piso and perfected
later by Arrius Piso (Flavian Josephus).

However, Issa was still alive in Tibet
when Piso authored Ur Marcus in 60 AD
which later became known as Gospel of Mark.
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i will tell you this, i know he exists because he is in me and i carry that witness with me;
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what is in you is a seed of mind control
that was planted by Rome to make wonderful
Roman Slaves who are obedient, pay taxes,
and loyal to Rome and a false religion
that collects an extra 10% of everything
you earn.

Constantine merged the Roman State with
the Roman Church. So every shekel you gave
to God in the church went directly to Rome
so Rome could further conquest and make war.

So you be a good lil slave and go
back to sleep, the Vatican is
counting on it ;)
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Oh yes there is!
Youtube.com: Hidden Secret for Thousands of Years

Plus the shroud of Turin
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So keep believing fairytales if it makes you feel better, but sometimes the truth hurts.

There is no evidence whatsoever that Jesus Christ ever existed, and if you think the Bible is evidence, then you should get your head checked.
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...and there is no evidence that he didn't exist.

you say we cannot prove he existed; i say you cannot prove he didn't.

i will tell you this, i know he exists because he is in me and i carry that witness with me; i do not believe in a book, i believe in whom the book has led me to, i believe in he who has revealed himself to me.

"science" and "teaching" has conditioned you to believe nothing without proof... what a weapon against the truth!

I THANK GOD FOR FAITH and for his Son Jesus Christ!
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The burden of proof lies upon the person claiming existence. It's nonsense to say "Prove he didn't exist!" Anyone can claim anything exists and use that "defense".

"Prove the flying spaghetti monster doesn't exist!"

See how stupid?
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2 pages deep and still not an iota of evidence given Jesus existed, just angry bibletards whinging.

Sure, Jesus existed! Just like Hansel and Gretel and the gingerbread house.
WASNT EXPECTING THIS

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2 pages deep and still not an iota of evidence given Jesus existed, just angry bibletards whinging.

Sure, Jesus existed! Just like Hansel and Gretel and the gingerbread house.
 Quoting: WTF_is_a_Moniker


What if a certain group has Jesus's mummified body?

Would that peak your interest?
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Only if the mummy's DNA matches what we have on file for Jesus in the... oh wait...
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Don't forget about all the opium addicted china-men that have rewritten the bible over and over and over to the point where simple contradictory can be seen one page after the other.


"EXO 24:9,10; AMO 9:1; GEN 26:2; and JOH 14:9
God CAN be seen:
"And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my backparts." (EXO 33:23)
"And the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to his friend." (EXO 33:11)
"For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." (GEN 32:30)

God CANNOT be seen:
"No man hath seen God at any time." (JOH 1:18)
"And he said, Thou canst not see my face; for there shall no man see me and live." (EXO 33:20)
"Whom no man hath seen nor can see." (1TIM 6:16)"



Don't dive into that whole 'you need to take it as a story, a different version of the same story' bullshit. You can't take half the "word of god" as fact, and half of it as fiction. Pick a fucking side and stick with it.

Last Edited by Boland on 02/18/2013 07:58 AM
If you're going to talk about free thought and tell others that they're sheep. You better be accepting of everything in the world and let nothing bother you.
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i will tell you this, i know he exists because he is in me and i carry that witness with me;
 Quoting: Aman 33575868


what is in you is a seed of mind control
that was planted by Rome to make wonderful
Roman Slaves who are obedient, pay taxes,
and loyal to Rome and a false religion
that collects an extra 10% of everything
you earn.

Constantine merged the Roman State with
the Roman Church. So every shekel you gave
to God in the church went directly to Rome
so Rome could further conquest and make war.

So you be a good lil slave and go
back to sleep, the Vatican is
counting on it ;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34664405


i have nothing to do with that or any church... you make assumptions based on your hatred of "christians"... but you do not know me.

i knew him before i read the book.

he drew me from the womb and called me to his side brfore i spoke my first words.

he has always been with me and i with him.

so you are incorrect and have drawn the wrong conclusion.
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What if a certain group has Jesus's mummified body?

Would that peak your interest?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


not unless somebody has been digging
tunnels in India and grave robbing.

but anything is possible:
the Church has gotten away with
the biggest lie in history for
over 2,000 yrs.

the body of Issa
would def make the Pope resign if
it's DNA could match the Spear
of Destiny.

lmao
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i have nothing to do with that or any church... you make assumptions based on your hatred of "christians"... but you do not know me.
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I don't hate Christians.
I think they are victims.
I feel sorry for them as
I used to be one.
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2 pages deep and still not an iota of evidence given Jesus existed, just angry bibletards whinging.

Sure, Jesus existed! Just like Hansel and Gretel and the gingerbread house.
 Quoting: WTF_is_a_Moniker


What if a certain group has Jesus's mummified body?

Would that peak your interest?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


If REAL scientists could prove the man was the same person from the fairytales, then I might find it interesting... until then...
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i have nothing to do with that or any church... you make assumptions based on your hatred of "christians"... but you do not know me.
 Quoting: Aman 33575868


I don't hate Christians.
I think they are victims.
I feel sorry for them as
I used to be one.
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I feel ya. 18 years for me. How much time did you do?
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i knew him before i read the book.

he drew me from the womb and called me to his side brfore i spoke my first words.

he has always been with me and i with him.

so you are incorrect and have drawn the wrong conclusion.
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I think you are delusional.





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