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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4360845 United States 02/18/2013 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Boland I\\\'m sorry you need a book telling you how to be a good person, but i don\\\'t. I know what it means to be a good person at my own hand and from that I\\\'ll live my life in a respect way and I\\\'ll go on treating others how they should be treated. Like human beings. Again, being a good person is not enough either. Holiness is required to come closer to God. The Bible says how is it done. Don´t eat from \\\"the Tree\\\" ANYMORE. Why do you use the bible to convince those that believe the bible is bullshit? Do I? ... just pinpointing their lack of understanding it. Yes. You do. You said, "Holiness is required to come closer to God. The Bible says how is it done." How is that going to hold water to someone who thinks your bible is evil? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 750749 Sweden 02/18/2013 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749 Again, being a good person is not enough either. Holiness is required to come closer to God. The Bible says how is it done. Don´t eat from \\\\\\\"the Tree\\\\\\\" ANYMORE. Why do you use the bible to convince those that believe the bible is bullshit? Do I? ... just pinpointing their lack of understanding it. Yes. You do. You said, \"Holiness is required to come closer to God. The Bible says how is it done.\" How is that going to hold water to someone who thinks your bible is evil? Did I say believe this or that? - No. Just leting you know what is the Bible about. Up to you what are you going to do about. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34664405 United States 02/18/2013 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Caesarian's history is written in the Egyptian Calendar. Jesus' history was written in the Christian Calendar. there is a 30 yr difference between the 2 calendars since the Egyptian Calendar had to be transposed to Gregorian Calendar before it could be fitted into the Christian Calendar. the life of Caesarian/Issa and the life of Jesus match perfectly after the calendar adjustment. Caesarian born in 47 BC Egyptian calendar. 30 yr difference leaves Issa born in 17 BC Christian Calendar. the Pope recently adjusted that birth date through a scribe error of 4 yrs earlier. this leaves 13 yrs now deduct 1 yr because there is no year ZERO (0) on the Calendar. this leaves 12 yrs which is the exact age that Caesarian was given the name of ISSA at 12 yrs old leaving Egypt and traveling through Jerusalem on the way to India. the ISSA identity was born in 1 AD though Caesarian was born in 12 BC Christian Calendar. you have to use 1 AD because there is no year zero, it jumps from 1 BC to 1 AD. |
Boland User ID: 33015617 United States 02/18/2013 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Caesarian's history is written in the Egyptian Calendar. Jesus' history was written in the Christian Calendar. there is a 30 yr difference between the 2 calendars since the Egyptian Calendar had to be transposed to Gregorian Calendar before it could be fitted into the Christian Calendar. the life of Caesarian/Issa and the life of Jesus match perfectly after the calendar adjustment. Caesarian born in 47 BC Egyptian calendar. 30 yr difference leaves Issa born in 17 BC Christian Calendar. the Pope recently adjusted that birth date through a scribe error of 4 yrs earlier. this leaves 13 yrs now deduct 1 yr because there is no year ZERO (0) on the Calendar. this leaves 12 yrs which is the exact age that Caesarian was given the name of ISSA at 12 yrs old leaving Egypt and traveling through Jerusalem on the way to India. the ISSA identity was born in 1 AD though Caesarian was born in 12 BC Christian Calendar. you have to use 1 AD because there is no year zero, it jumps from 1 BC to 1 AD. annnnnnd /thread If you're going to talk about free thought and tell others that they're sheep. You better be accepting of everything in the world and let nothing bother you. |
gatzster User ID: 786640 Puerto Rico 02/18/2013 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Shroud of Turin proves that Jesus existed and it still exists today. Even shows long arms because His arms were pulled out of His sockets. For who? For us! [link to www.thewarningsecondcoming.com] You don't believe this! Then what is there to believe? You have nothing to believe in and your future is bleak. After The Warning, you will get something.... This can happen anytime now.... [link to www.thewarningsecondcoming.com] Where there is love there is Jesus. Where there is hate there is Satan. Jesus loves each and every one of us no matter what we have done. All you need to do is to ask Him to be your Lord and Savior. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 750749 Sweden 02/18/2013 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Caesarian\'s history is written in the Egyptian Calendar. Jesus\' history was written in the Christian Calendar. there is a 30 yr difference between the 2 calendars since the Egyptian Calendar had to be transposed to Gregorian Calendar before it could be fitted into the Christian Calendar. the life of Caesarian/Issa and the life of Jesus match perfectly after the calendar adjustment. Caesarian born in 47 BC Egyptian calendar. 30 yr difference leaves Issa born in 17 BC Christian Calendar. the Pope recently adjusted that birth date through a scribe error of 4 yrs earlier. this leaves 13 yrs now deduct 1 yr because there is no year ZERO (0) on the Calendar. this leaves 12 yrs which is the exact age that Caesarian was given the name of ISSA at 12 yrs old leaving Egypt and traveling through Jerusalem on the way to India. the ISSA identity was born in 1 AD though Caesarian was born in 12 BC Christian Calendar. you have to use 1 AD because there is no year zero, it jumps from 1 BC to 1 AD. My fairytale is better though: [link to www.youtube.com] ... meaning no physical father of Jesus Christ. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4360845 United States 02/18/2013 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Shroud of Turin proves that Jesus existed and it still exists today. Even shows long arms because His arms were pulled out of His sockets. For who? For us! Quoting: gatzster [link to www.thewarningsecondcoming.com] You don't believe this! Then what is there to believe? You have nothing to believe in and your future is bleak. After The Warning, you will get something.... This can happen anytime now.... [link to www.thewarningsecondcoming.com] Where there is love there is Jesus. Where there is hate there is Satan. Jesus loves each and every one of us no matter what we have done. All you need to do is to ask Him to be your Lord and Savior. This proves nothing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34664405 United States 02/18/2013 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My fairytale is better though: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749 [link to www.youtube.com] ... meaning no physical father of Jesus Christ. I have already said Ron Wyatt was a con artist who stole people's money [link to tentmaker.org] Christians are so gullible when it comes to money and their belief system. and Ron and Kent took them for hundreds of thousands of dollars I thought this was already made clear in my prior post ?? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 750749 Sweden 02/18/2013 09:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kent Hovind ?? Is that really you ?? I didn\'t think they allowed prisoners to use internet forums ?? Read further here, other findings with plenty photo material presented: [link to www.anchorstone.com] Don´t do work of shills for nothing. LOL |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26795689 United States 02/18/2013 09:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps if He had not raised from the dead...there would be evidence, but it still would not answer the question of your unbelief. We find through scriptures the "fearful and unbelieving..." are the first ones to be cast into the Lake of Fire. Quoting: Wingedlion27 That's charming, really. Because I choose to think logically and question unproven statements I'm going to suffer for an eternity in Hell? Christians are just sad. Neither of these are sins, so no thinking logically or questioning unproven statements do not send a person to Hell. But rejecting Jesus Christ as penalty for your sin will send you into an eternal lake of fire. Guarenteed! Weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth, more horrible than you can imagine, and getting out is fairly easy. It just takes a very small amount of faith. If that is too much to ask of such unbelief, then so be it. Too bad OP is wise enough to see through the man-made false doctrines that were specifically created to scare 'unbelievers' into submission and ultimately place them under the control and authority of the church. Please try a different approach. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 750749 Sweden 02/18/2013 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My fairytale is better though: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749 [link to www.youtube.com] ... meaning no physical father of Jesus Christ. I have already said Ron Wyatt was a con artist who stole people\'s money [link to tentmaker.org] Christians are so gullible when it comes to money and their belief system. and Ron and Kent took them for hundreds of thousands of dollars I thought this was already made clear in my prior post ?? Sure, he scamed all the findings, not just the Ark. How gullible from you. Nevermind, you cannot do anything about facts. They are much older and bigger than you and your pity life. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1580790 United Kingdom 02/18/2013 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus never existed?! Next you'll be telling us Superman isn't real, and the Incredible Hulk is just from a comic book. You have to have a little imagination when it comes to these things, Jesus is as just as real as p i x i e s, or Santa Claus. You just have to believe! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34664405 United States 02/18/2013 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Too bad OP is wise enough to see through the man-made false doctrines that were specifically created to scare 'unbelievers' into submission and ultimately place them under the control and authority of the church. Quoting: ANHEDONIC yep, that is pretty much what the church did religion was the ultimate terror incentive to create Roman debt slaves. which is exactly the forefather of our current system of debt slavery. |
Fairlight User ID: 22585439 United States 02/18/2013 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So keep believing fairytales if it makes you feel better, but sometimes the truth hurts. Quoting: WTF_is_a_Moniker There is no evidence whatsoever that Jesus Christ ever existed, and if you think the Bible is evidence, then you should get your head checked. No proof that wind exists either other than we can see and feel it's effects. These numbers below show that with this many of an entire "world" population believing...there is much truth to it: World population broken down into religious affiliations and non-affiliated as of 2010: 31.5% of world population - Christians 23.2% - Muslims 16.3% - non-affiliated 15.0% - Hindus 7.1% - Buddhists 5.9% - Folk Reliionists 0.8% - other religions 0.2% - Jews This is % of the world population of 7,584,821,144 broken down. I would certainly say there is much proof in these numbers. |
Sure my friend User ID: 16172614 United States 02/18/2013 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Out of all the things in this world to hate, you choose the profit of love.. says a lot. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5146667 Some prophet of love. Revelation 2:23 Prove to me the air you breath? Prove to me the gravity that keeps you planted? Do you need proof of those? Your answer will be typical but the Jesus isnt. You are exactly where Satan wants you to be. I will pray for you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28334809 South Africa 02/18/2013 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So keep believing fairytales if it makes you feel better, but sometimes the truth hurts. Quoting: WTF_is_a_Moniker There is no evidence whatsoever that Jesus Christ ever existed, and if you think the Bible is evidence, then you should get your head checked. No one is as blind as he who does not want to see. You will not recognise Him if he stand in front of you. Or wil you, you Satanist are active on the site again today. |
Sure my friend User ID: 16172614 United States 02/18/2013 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So keep believing fairytales if it makes you feel better, but sometimes the truth hurts. Quoting: WTF_is_a_Moniker There is no evidence whatsoever that Jesus Christ ever existed, and if you think the Bible is evidence, then you should get your head checked. (This was intended to reply to the first post, ignore the reply to the other) Prove to me the air you breath? Prove to me the gravity that keeps you planted? Do you need proof of those? Your answer will be typical but the Jesus isnt. You are exactly where Satan wants you to be. I will pray for you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34664405 United States 02/18/2013 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No one is as blind as he who does not want to see. You will not recognize Him if he stand in front of you. Or wil you, you Satanist are active on the site again today. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28334809 I am not a Satanist. I am a truther. All I want is the truth. Having the truth gives me the option of having a real choice other than a choice already made for me through lies, manipulation and terror. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1098656 United States 02/18/2013 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So keep believing fairytales if it makes you feel better, but sometimes the truth hurts. Quoting: WTF_is_a_Moniker There is no evidence whatsoever that Jesus Christ ever existed, and if you think the Bible is evidence, then you should get your head checked. No proof that wind exists either other than we can see and feel it's effects. These numbers below show that with this many of an entire "world" population believing...there is much truth to it: World population broken down into religious affiliations and non-affiliated as of 2010: 31.5% of world population - Christians 23.2% - Muslims 16.3% - non-affiliated 15.0% - Hindus 7.1% - Buddhists 5.9% - Folk Reliionists 0.8% - other religions 0.2% - Jews This is % of the world population of 7,584,821,144 broken down. I would certainly say there is much proof in these numbers. Everyone feels the wind. EVERYONE. If you have a crowd in an open field and the wind blows, everyone will feel it. It isn't open to interpretation. No one can say, "I don't feel it" and be honest. Now, however you can all be in a church and have half the crowd say "I feel the holy spirit" and the other half says "I do not". Not possible with the wind because it actually is real. Half the church crowd could just be either delusional or interpreting their emotions and feelings to be "the holy spirit" We don't even know if everyone that claims they're feeling the holy spirit is in fact feeling the same thing. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25567776 United States 02/18/2013 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus never existed?! Next you'll be telling us Superman isn't real, and the Incredible Hulk is just from a comic book. You have to have a little imagination when it comes to these things, Jesus is as just as real as p i x i e s, or Santa Claus. You just have to believe! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1580790 They say Jesus never existed,but RA and Isis did. |
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Aman User ID: 33575868 United States 02/18/2013 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Typical thick headed American. Quoting: WTF_is_a_Moniker I don't understand how people can be so weak minded to believe in all this bs. I think it's a great idea for people who go from being a shit person to adapting the "christian/catholic lifestyle" but honestly: -No proof -So much contradicting it's insane. -Why would jesus even visit earth when there's probably and endless amount of planets out there with life. -There is that many damn religions and so many different gods that all created earth... what makes any of all these fake religions more true than the other? I believe that there's a creator out there but easily way beyond our capabilities of understanding. I feel sorry for anyone brainwashed/stupid enough to believe in such bullshit. this is a problem, a very big problem, people judging each other by themselves... this is not wise. becuase you don't believe and you think it's bullshit, we must all think so also? i can't have my belief and you yours without being enemies? don't hate all christians because many are led astray, take each on his own merit. i oersoannly don't believe anyone that TRULY knows Christ and teh love of god that is in him could tell you to go to hell or any other thing like that; that is the enemy but they don't know it. and how many "christians" are truly ot and are only acting as christians to further the hate thevne truly is, you cannot trust they are a christian just because they say they are. they could just as easily be an agent provocateur. No i'm not enemies, I'm trying to understand the minds of these followers and it frustrates me cause all I can see is brainwashing and being gullible enough to believe it. With just the tiniest bit of logical/independent thinking you can see so far through religion it's not funny. So are these people just being stubborn? Don't have the capabilities of logical thinking? I don't even know! I went to a catholic school and my logical mind was put into overdrive every religion class... It infuriated me so much to hear all these contradictions and weird stories all the time. Exactly... Noone truely knows christ. We barely even know anything about space or earth yet. Going by that our creator would be so far beyond our understanding it's ridiculous, not something that could be put into a book. Aman wrote: It is something that could be put in a book, but the book is only confirmation of something believed. I believed, but not because of the book, or any book. I believe because he has made himself known to me. Since he has made himself known I have looked in the book and found evidence to solidify that belief, but as I have said, he came first. It would be impossible, as you have said, to put him into a book for he is far too much for that. However, enough could be written that those who are seeking can confirm what is already in them. The hardest thing for a man to do is believe, it's downright preposterous and would seem great folly; but in that is much wisdom. The only thing that I can see that each man believes without question is his own views, everyone else a liar. Last Edited by Aman on 02/18/2013 10:09 AM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4360845 United States 02/18/2013 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aman wrote: Quoting: Aman It is something that could be put in a book, but the book is only confirmation of something believed. I believed, but not because of the book, or any book. I believe because he has made himself known to me. Since he has made himself known I have looked in the book and found evidence to solidify that belief, but as I have said, he came first. It would be impossible, as you have said, to put him into a book for he is far too much for that. However, enough could be written that those who are seeking can confirm what is already in them. The hardest thing for a man to do is believe, it's downright preposterous and would seem great folly; but in that is much wisdom. The only thing that I can see that each man believes without question is his own views, everyone else a liar. How exactly has he "made himself known" to you? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27594769 United States 02/18/2013 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is so sad that someone can hand you a book, tell you that god wrote it, and you just swallow it hook line and sinker... no questions asked. Hey dummy, by you disrespecting the Bible, YOU ARE DISRESPECTING MY HERITAGE. The Bible speaks of the History of my forefathers (Israelites), all of the trials and tribulations they went through to get into a land against all odds. It speaks of the Rise, Fall and eventual Rise again of my people. You are just another satan loving Caucasian with no spirit or soul. No one gives a damn if you don't believe in the Holiest man to ever walk the Earth. When you face the Judge, express your feelings then. We'll see how much of a "man" you are when your creator is sitting before you. Furthermore, God didn't write the Bible you moron, his spirit was placed on the prophets to write down all that they heard and seen. It is the most prophetically sound book on this Earth. You soulless creatures make me sick. |
gatzster User ID: 786640 Puerto Rico 02/18/2013 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Shroud of Turin proves that Jesus existed and it still exists today. Even shows long arms because His arms were pulled out of His sockets. For who? For us! Quoting: gatzster [link to www.thewarningsecondcoming.com] You don't believe this! Then what is there to believe? You have nothing to believe in and your future is bleak. After The Warning, you will get something.... This can happen anytime now.... [link to www.thewarningsecondcoming.com] Where there is love there is Jesus. Where there is hate there is Satan. Jesus loves each and every one of us no matter what we have done. All you need to do is to ask Him to be your Lord and Savior. This proves nothing. And you prove nothing.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30010402 Canada 02/18/2013 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So keep believing fairytales if it makes you feel better, but sometimes the truth hurts. Quoting: WTF_is_a_Moniker There is no evidence whatsoever that Jesus Christ ever existed, and if you think the Bible is evidence, then you should get your head checked. Thread: THE BEIRING STRAIT THEORY IS BOGUS!!! WHY YOU ASK? |
Aman User ID: 33575868 United States 02/18/2013 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aman wrote: Quoting: Aman It is something that could be put in a book, but the book is only confirmation of something believed. I believed, but not because of the book, or any book. I believe because he has made himself known to me. Since he has made himself known I have looked in the book and found evidence to solidify that belief, but as I have said, he came first. It would be impossible, as you have said, to put him into a book for he is far too much for that. However, enough could be written that those who are seeking can confirm what is already in them. The hardest thing for a man to do is believe, it's downright preposterous and would seem great folly; but in that is much wisdom. The only thing that I can see that each man believes without question is his own views, everyone else a liar. How exactly has he "made himself known" to you? By the things i do, things which are considered folly or just plain stupid, things I may not of myself do but the spirit that is in me constrains me to do all these. To help my enemies, to do good unto all men, to pray for the good of those that hate me, use me, spit in my face, or condemn me to hell. I have been told even by those who should be my brother or my sister that I am going to hell. He speaks to me, comforts me, teaches me. I have prophesied and those things came true, the men affected knowing the truth of it, though all are my enemies today, leaving my friendship because they cannot accept the witness god gave them. A man told me a dream once and asked me what it meant. I prayed and Jesus answered him, i told him the interpretation and immediately the enemy rose up and he became my enemy. The dream and interpretation came true exactly as it was given to me in prayer. What man would choose such a life? To become hated for all just because of what I believe? To be called mind controlled, stupid, ignorant, sheep, deluded; yet my faith never shaken, my belief sure because he has made himself known to me. This is no life to be desired and is great sorrow. There are so many more examples I could give but it would take too much time, besides, I have written them all here before. |