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Matthew 24:32-39 (KJV)
[32] Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: [33] So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. [34] Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. [35] Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. [36] But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. [37] But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. [38] For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, [39] And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

32] Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: [33] So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors

The fig tree died in 70ad. Jews had no home for 1900 years
In Nov of 1947 the degree went out and in May of 1948 it was
official

The clock started. Should mean that in the next
40 to 70 years events should shape up.


[34] Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. [35] Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away

Jesus is making the point that when Israel becomes a nation again
These things will happen.

[36] But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. [37] But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. [38] For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, [39] And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.


As it was in Noah's day

Who knew what time was ? Noah

Who didn't know ?

Matt 24 the last 3 1/2 years next
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Many are watching for the :

- rapture

- 3rd Temple

- 7 year peace deal


I am watching according to 2 Thes


2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 (KJV)
2 Thessalonians 2
[2:1] Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, [2] That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
[3] Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
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you figured it out ICE-you came out of the deception-the FALLEN ONE comes first to deceive the world -those who know the Lord will make a stand against him -glad you have joined our team!!!!RAPTURE IS A FALSE DOCTRINE!!!!!bump
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Matthew 24:4-5 (KJV)
[4] And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. [5] For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.


The great falling away is tied to the man of sin.



Why no 7 years no peace deal no rapture?


Dan 9 : 24-27


Daniel 9:24-27 (KJV)
[24] Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. [25] Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. [26] And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. [27] And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


Many timing points in these key verses

And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease


I say this is not something the anti- Christ can do

Only Jesus could fulfill these

Matthew 27:50-51 (KJV)
[50] Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. [51] And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
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Ice Effect = No Tribulation
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you figured it out ICE-you came out of the deception-the FALLEN ONE comes first to deceive the world -those who know the Lord will make a stand against him -glad you have joined our team!!!!RAPTURE IS A FALSE DOCTRINE!!!!!bump
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Yes it is

I have been easy going about in my life having
understood Rev 20:5 30 years ago.

I figured just let it happen. I knew many of the
full blown Camping and the early rapture message
messed them up. I never agreed with his complete
message but his timeline 13,000 year calendar is
what I studied. The whole message he taught should
have been a warning for me.

I was in error and repented. That message hurt
many!

The message of 2 Thes is straight forward
right kin your face.
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boring
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Sleep

Make fun

Join freely with him that will come

Death waits those that laugh off the only
Truth.

There can only be one truth
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Then why does the multitude in white robes appear at the 6th seal / in ch.7 Revelation?

Rapture does happen, just not as early as most would like to believe.

In fact some will be persecuted/put in jail 10 days. Revelation 2:8-11,
Probably to give them time to choose to come over to the dark side.
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Jesus is the one that stopped the daily sacrifice

Jesus was The sacrifice
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Then why does the multitude in white robes appear at the 6th seal / in ch.7 Revelation?

Rapture does happen, just not as early as most would like to believe.

In fact some will be persecuted/put in jail 10 days. Revelation 2:8-11,
Probably to give them time to choose to come over to the dark side.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34559884


Then why does the multitude in white robes appear at the 6th seal / in ch.7 Revelation?

Rapture does happen, just not as early as most would like to believe.

In fact some will be persecuted/put in jail 10 days. Revelation 2:8-11,
Probably to give them time to choose to come over to the dark side.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34559884


Good question

Rev like Matt 24 is a layered book

Same events repeated

Wisdom
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Then why does the multitude in white robes appear at the 6th seal / in ch.7 Revelation?

Rapture does happen, just not as early as most would like to believe.

In fact some will be persecuted/put in jail 10 days. Revelation 2:8-11,
Probably to give them time to choose to come over to the dark side.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34559884


The gathering

Marriage Supper

Happens before Gods wrath
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Then why does the multitude in white robes appear at the 6th seal / in ch.7 Revelation?

Rapture does happen, just not as early as most would like to believe.

In fact some will be persecuted/put in jail 10 days. Revelation 2:8-11,
Probably to give them time to choose to come over to the dark side.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34559884


Then why does the multitude in white robes appear at the 6th seal / in ch.7 Revelation?

Rapture does happen, just not as early as most would like to believe.

In fact some will be persecuted/put in jail 10 days. Revelation 2:8-11,
Probably to give them time to choose to come over to the dark side.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34559884


Good question

Rev like Matt 24 is a layered book

Same events repeated

Wisdom
 Quoting: Ice

I have to respectfully disagree.
Revelation is completely chronological.
"And then I saw"...how many times does John use that phrase?
It was shown to him/unfolded chronologically. IMO
IN fact,I actually foresee 2 raptures....
But I've only studied it for 24 years...so who knows.
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[link to www.sonoma.edu]

Amazing chart of last 70 years
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Then why does the multitude in white robes appear at the 6th seal / in ch.7 Revelation?

Rapture does happen, just not as early as most would like to believe.

In fact some will be persecuted/put in jail 10 days. Revelation 2:8-11,
Probably to give them time to choose to come over to the dark side.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34559884


Then why does the multitude in white robes appear at the 6th seal / in ch.7 Revelation?

Rapture does happen, just not as early as most would like to believe.

In fact some will be persecuted/put in jail 10 days. Revelation 2:8-11,
Probably to give them time to choose to come over to the dark side.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34559884


Good question

Rev like Matt 24 is a layered book

Same events repeated

Wisdom
 Quoting: Ice

I have to respectfully disagree.
Revelation is completely chronological.
"And then I saw"...how many times does John use that phrase?
It was shown to him/unfolded chronologically. IMO
IN fact,I actually foresee 2 raptures....
But I've only studied it for 24 years...so who knows.
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No problem

Maybe we can talk about that
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And so it begins.
There four things left that will occur before the end.
First the SCOTUS WILL MAKE GAY MARRIAGE LEGAL.
Second A PEACE DEAL WITH THE PALESTINIANS AND ISRAEL.
Third WWIII will take place against "TRUE CHRISTIAN" in the form of a civil war.
Fourth the "GREAT EARTHQUAKE" will seal the deal and all saints found written in the book will escape in the "RAPTURE".
And anything left will face Gods "INDIGNATION", "JUDGEMENT" and finally his "WRATH".
Now is the acceptable year of the Lord. Seek him while he may yet be found. You know I'm prayinf for YOU!
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How's Harold Camping doing Ice?

chuckle
Winner takes my car, clean and clear... but if I lose, I take the cash AND I take the respect!
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Then why does the multitude in white robes appear at the 6th seal / in ch.7 Revelation?

Rapture does happen, just not as early as most would like to believe.

In fact some will be persecuted/put in jail 10 days. Revelation 2:8-11,
Probably to give them time to choose to come over to the dark side.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34559884


The gathering

Marriage Supper

Happens before Gods wrath
 Quoting: Ice


It's just all so, so..???..Ummmm Gothic !.
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[link to aoreport.com]


This says it well about Rev!



We have noted that the numerous parentheses within the future section of the prophecies raise questions as to whether or not everything is in chronological order. We can conclusively point to Revelation 17 and 18 as being outside of the Chronological order of the book by virtue of the fact that the first judgment of Babylon occurs at the time the Antichrist comes to power, which is first revealed in Chapter 17:12-14, but the Antichrist (Beast) is first mentioned in Chapter 13. Therefore, we know, flat out that we have at least chapters 17 and 18 thoroughly separated and outside of any chronological order. The Babylon chapters of Revelation 17 and 18 then are vulnerable to tremendous misunderstanding in the overall context of prophetic timelines and that in turn creates incorrect timelines for those who do not recognize what we have just presented in this article.

Most Prophecy commentators are of the erroneous view that all of the Babylon prophetic judgments will take place at the end of the Tribulation period. While it is true that Babylon will receive judgment at the end of the Tribulation period, it will also receive its primary, fire-destruction judgment at the very beginning of the Tribulation period and its destruction triggers the rise to power or at least coincides with the rise to power of The Antichrist. That we have all misunderstood the timeline aspects for Babylon raises the question about those other parenthetical sections within Revelation and whether or not any of those events described are also out of chronological order. I would not try and argue one way or the other but I do raise the question. What I do know, is that Revelation 17 and 18 do not correspond to the linear chronology of Revelation and refer to events at both the start and the end of the Tribulation period.
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The many will laugh

The many will kill people of faith in glee

Dark days yet our redemption drawth nigh
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[link to vimeo.com]

Good video series

Long with details
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Many are watching for the :

- rapture

- 3rd Temple

- 7 year peace deal


I am watching according to 2 Thes


2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 (KJV)
2 Thessalonians 2
[2:1] Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, [2] That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
[3] Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
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Pope and the Anti-Christ??
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It takes about 4 hours to watch all of them

Well worth it
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Is a interesting study
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you figured it out ICE-you came out of the deception-the FALLEN ONE comes first to deceive the world -those who know the Lord will make a stand against him -glad you have joined our team!!!!RAPTURE IS A FALSE DOCTRINE!!!!!bump
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The rapture isn't a false doctrine, it's the truth. What's in dispute is the timing of it. It will happen at the last trump.

Don't deny what is written in the scriptures. The rapture will in fact happen.
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Ice, have you seen the latest?

Thread: NBC: New fault on seafloor may have opened up from BP disaster in Gulf, says oceanographe
Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
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you figured it out ICE-you came out of the deception-the FALLEN ONE comes first to deceive the world -those who know the Lord will make a stand against him -glad you have joined our team!!!!RAPTURE IS A FALSE DOCTRINE!!!!!bump
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The rapture isn't a false doctrine, it's the truth. What's in dispute is the timing of it. It will happen at the last trump.

Don't deny what is written in the scriptures. The rapture will in fact happen.
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Pre rapture no - pre trib is a false teaching

Rev 20:5

Dead in Christ 1st

Then anyone still alive
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Hmm

It's all wrapping up anyway
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Hmm

It's all wrapping up anyway
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Yes it is. Time is short and we should be glad.
Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

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