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FACT: US Military & NASA Blocks Data On Incoming Meteors

 
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Astronomers lose access to military data

The US military has abruptly ended an informal arrangement that allowed scientists access to data on incoming meteors from classified surveillance satellites.

The change is a blow to the astronomers and planetary scientists who used the information to track space rocks, especially those that burn up over the oceans or in other remote locations. "These systems are extremely useful," says Peter Brown, an astronomer at the University of Western Ontario in London, Canada. "I think the scientific community benefited enormously."

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US Military Blocks Data On Incoming Meteors


"Nature reports that the US military has abruptly ended an informal arrangement that allowed scientists access to data on incoming meteors from classified surveillance satellites, dealing a blow to the astronomers and planetary scientists who used the information to track space rocks. 'These systems are extremely useful,' says astronomer Peter Brown, at the University of Western Ontario. 'I think the scientific community benefited enormously.' Meteor data came from the Defense Support Program (DSP) satellite network consisting of infrared satellites in geosynchronous orbit to monitor the globe for missile launches or atmospheric nuclear blasts, forming the principal component of the United States' ballistic missile early-warning system. The satellites' effectiveness was demonstrated during Desert Storm, when DSP detected the launch of Iraqi Scud missiles and provided warning to civilian populations and coalition forces in Israel and Saudi Arabia. As a side benefit, the satellites could also precisely detect the time, position, altitude and brightness of meteors as they entered Earth's atmosphere, information the military didn't consider particularly useful, or classified. 'It was being dropped on the floor,' says former Air Force captain Brian Weeden. Although the reason for ending the arrangement remains unclear, Weeden notes that it coincides with the launch of a new generation of surveillance satellites and speculates that the Pentagon may not want details of the new satellites' capabilities to be made public, or it may simply lack the expensive software needed to handle classified and declassified data simultaneously. 'The decision may have been made that it was perhaps too difficult to disclose just these data.'"

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to call you a liar in ...3...2...1 :
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:dog:

to call you a liar in ...3...2...1 :
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:jckwsy:
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to call you a liar in ...3...2...1 :
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:jckwsy:
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i think you need to log in for that...
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This is from 2009!

Dumbfuck!
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This is from 2009!

Dumbfuck!
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yes thank you for telling him the truth
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This is from 2009!

Dumbfuck!
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Right, which means they knew before then all this was going to happen and didn't want you know it was going to happen.

damned
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This is from 2009!

Dumbfuck!
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And ?

sideways
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This is from 2009!

Dumbfuck!
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yes thank you for telling him the truth
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Wow are you really that stupid ?
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This is from 2009!

Dumbfuck!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22079895


Right, which means they knew before then all this was going to happen and didn't want you know it was going to happen.

damned
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ura
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This is from 2009!

Dumbfuck!
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yeah....cuz nothing "true" ever happened before 2012, right?

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At the bottom of the first article it says:


Updated:

The Air Force has said that the data will "flow once more": [link to blogs.nature.com] after a review of the procedures governing its release.

Does anyone know if the restrictions were ever lifted?

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dog

to call you a liar in ...3...2...1 :
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Well, you do know better. You know the truth, why don't YOU explain it to the OP. Go on, let's hear you be honest for once.
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This is from 2009!

Dumbfuck!
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yes thank you for telling him the truth
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Wow are you really that stupid ?
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who are you?
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At the bottom of the first article it says:


Updated:

The Air Force has said that the data will "flow once more": [link to blogs.nature.com] after a review of the procedures governing its release.

Does anyone know if the restrictions were ever lifted?

.
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of course. once certain details are redacted, certain tid-bits withheld, then they decide which part is disseminated to the public.

we only know what they want us to.
--"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos.
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:dog:

to call you a liar in ...3...2...1 :
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that picture made me imagine doing that... lol would be so fun
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dog

to call you a liar in ...3...2...1 :
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft


Well, you do know better. You know the truth, why don't YOU explain it to the OP. Go on, let's hear you be honest for once.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Let me start you off; "NASA" did not block the data. The data was only about...

Go on, finish it Mordier, you know the rest of the story.
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Re: FACT: US Military & NASA Blocks Data On Incoming Meteors
At the bottom of the first article it says:


Updated:

The Air Force has said that the data will "flow once more": [link to blogs.nature.com] after a review of the procedures governing its release.

Does anyone know if the restrictions were ever lifted?

.
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of course. once certain details are redacted, certain tid-bits withheld, then they decide which part is disseminated to the public.

we only know what they want us to.
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That sound's like just about everything the government does.

chuckle
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At the bottom of the first article it says:


Updated:

The Air Force has said that the data will "flow once more": [link to blogs.nature.com] after a review of the procedures governing its release.

Does anyone know if the restrictions were ever lifted?

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432


of course. once certain details are redacted, certain tid-bits withheld, then they decide which part is disseminated to the public.

we only know what they want us to.
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft


That sound's like just about everything the government does.

chuckle
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applause
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to call you a liar in ...3...2...1 :
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft


Well, you do know better. You know the truth, why don't YOU explain it to the OP. Go on, let's hear you be honest for once.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


i honestly don't think you read the articles posted...
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to call you a liar in ...3...2...1 :
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft


Well, you do know better. You know the truth, why don't YOU explain it to the OP. Go on, let's hear you be honest for once.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


i honestly don't think you read the articles posted...
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft


I do, which is why I understand what the story is actually about despite some very misleading thread titles. So go on, explain what it's really about. You know the truth, you've seen me explain it before. You can't do it though, can you, you can't be honest for 5 seconds can you?
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you can't be honest for 5 seconds can you?
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obviously not.

not since you caught a simple mistake i made, and then took upon myself to correct, have i been able to say a thing in any thread you choose to shill.....

not only did i correct my mistake, but i proved you to be a lazy fuck who can't even read what's placed in front of him. because if you WEREN'T that lazy, you would have accepted my correction. but NOPE. even though i corrected my own SIMPLE mistake of giving you the wrong book title you still took it upon yourself you scream "LIAR LIAR LIAR!!!" in an apoplectic fit.

everyone here knows what you're about to say....and no one but your converted choir will even give you the time of day.

maybe if you altered your approach and weren't so....i dunno....what's the word i'm looking for here....if you weren't so fucking priggish every time you've got something to say you'd get a little respect around here from the fringe-types you battle so assiduously every day...
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Just a hunch but I'd say they limited access to the data (or total restriction) simply because they didn't want the rabble to know just how many more meteor strikes were and have been occurring.

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