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Let's face it--censorship is SHIT. However, SELF-censorship can and will SAVE YOUR ASS sometimes.

The way things are going with the US government trying to root out internet "extremists" (freedom-loving Americans), it's probably a good idea to practice some self-censorship when it comes to mentioning firearms, ammunition, accessories and magazines.

Look, we're ALL proud to support the 2nd Amendment. And most of us couldn't care less about what the federal government thinks of us. No one is a coward for keeping their armaments secret. Frankly, it's a good policy REGARDLESS of federal government threats to freedom. No one here has anything to prove.

It's getting to the point where the internet is shamelessly being monitored. And it's being monitored for everyday ordinary Americans who aren't satisfied with the federal government.

We're all on one "watch list" or another. But the feds are getting more aggressive. Think about your families.

One more thing:

BEWARE THE "LOUD AND PROUD" TYPES!!! Just remember how feds bust "domestic terrorists"! They fabricate the whole situation, provide the plans and the munitions and then they BUST THE POOR UNWITTING FUCKER WHO GOT WRAPPED UP IN THE GOVERNMENT-MADE PLOT.

In other words, beware of the people who say keeping quiet about your armament is an act of cowardess. Either they are morans or they are out to get you.

And if you think GLP isn't being HEAVILY MONITORED, you are WAY OFF.

Just my 2 cents.

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It may seem silly to have to convince users of a "conspiracy forum" to be even MORE paranoid--BUT--with all the threads about ammunition and firearm accessory dealers that are posted every day here, IT MUST BE SAID--USE SOME SENSE, PEOPLE!!!

Sometimes paranoia will save your ass! Think about your families.
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Think about THIS:

You post something in a crime thread that could be misconstrued as "racist".

You post something in a firearm thread about using a certain dealer for 30 rd mags.

You post something in a government-criticism thread about states' rights and dissatisfaction with the federal government.

Guess what Uncle Sam sees--A HEAVILY-ARMED RACIST SUBVERSIVE WHO FITS THE "PROFILE".

Think about that!
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It may seem silly to have to convince users of a "conspiracy forum" to be even MORE paranoid--BUT--with all the threads about ammunition and firearm accessory dealers that are posted every day here, IT MUST BE SAID--USE SOME SENSE, PEOPLE!!!

Sometimes paranoia will save your ass! Think about your families.
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I love the very vocal one who tout "shooting the bad gubmint mens", and whining about no-one is doing anything....thaen when you challenge them with a "Feeling Froggy?, then why haven't you jumped"....they start backpedaling like a clown on a UniCycle.
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I think it is too late..we are all on their lists already.
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This seems an effective way to shut down the forums by scaring people so much that they no longer post replies.
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I think it is too late..we are all on their lists already.
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I wish I could disagree with you.
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This seems an effective way to shut down the forums by scaring people so much that they no longer post replies.
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Let's just take it as a "given"--GLP is home to 2nd Amendment supporters and freedom-loving people. We don't need grandstanding and we don't need to tell everyone what we've got and where we got it.

No one here has anything to prove.

I say we should all feel free to speak our minds but let's leave firearms OUT OF IT.
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They're looking for threats, plots maybe trends. But as far as firearm ownership goes. The millions with a ccw license are all on file. Anyone who has purchased a firearm legally is on file with the gun store. If you purchased ammo with a credit card your on file. So 95% of us are on file already....
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They're looking for threats, plots maybe trends. But as far as firearm ownership goes. The millions with a ccw license are all on file. Anyone who has purchased a firearm legally is on file with the gun store. If you purchased ammo with a credit card your on file. So 95% of us are on file already....
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It's not so much "about guns". It's about fitting a certain "profile". Just by posting or viewing this website, you already fit HALF of the profile. Throw in proud firearm ownership and you are a "perfect fit".
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The way things are going with the US government trying to root out internet "extremists" (freedom-loving Americans), it's probably a good idea to practice some self-censorship when it comes to mentioning firearms, ammunition, accessories and magazines.

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Whiles I fully agree with your sentiment of self-control and discretion, allowing people to have their cake without rubbing other people's faces in it, the first line in the part I quoted instantly made me think of taliban tribes in Afghanistan, for some reason

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So you want them to win because you want everyone to hide the fact that they themselves are a gun owner? When one side steps down the other side will have free reign to say whatever bs they want because you want people to be scared of what most likely wont happen? Do you not think people wont & haven't been joining a local state militia to defend their rights? You're taking one side of a situation of what MIGHT happen and not considering the fact that local militias have been growing due to all of this and are ready to step up and defend your cowardice ass.


"The election of President Barack Obama in 2008 triggered an explosion in the number of militias and so-called patriot groups in the United States, the Southern Poverty Law Center reported in its annual tally of such anti-government organizations."

[link to usnews.nbcnews.com]
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They're looking for threats, plots maybe trends. But as far as firearm ownership goes. The millions with a ccw license are all on file. Anyone who has purchased a firearm legally is on file with the gun store. If you purchased ammo with a credit card your on file. So 95% of us are on file already....
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What's a "credit card"? bushtard
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Here is a list of 8 things to look for when trying to identify false flag psychological operations.
1. Staged events usually receive immediate national news coverage
2. There is a political agenda behind the coverage (gun control)
3. The incident inspires intense emotions (Dead kids)
4. Initial media reports conflict eyewitness accounts
5. No dead bodies are shown to the public
6. Celebrities are used to influence the public
7. Presence of mainstream media manipulation tactics
8. The Federal Government give attention to a local story

Question Everything.
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So you want them to win because you want everyone to hide the fact that they themselves are a gun owner? When one side steps down the other side will have free reign to say whatever bs they want because you want people to be scared of what most likely wont happen? Do you not think people wont & haven't been joining a local state militia to defend their rights? You're taking one side of a situation of what MIGHT happen and not considering the fact that local militias have been growing due to all of this and are ready to step up and defend your cowardice ass.


"The election of President Barack Obama in 2008 triggered an explosion in the number of militias and so-called patriot groups in the United States, the Southern Poverty Law Center reported in its annual tally of such anti-government organizations."

[link to usnews.nbcnews.com]
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I get what you're saying. I wish it were that simple. But balancing your freedom of speech with the right to remain silent is a sign of great maturity.

The most prudent course is to save the firearm talk for face-to-face interactions with people that you trust.

REMEMBER--this is NOT just about firearms. It's about "fitting a profile".

Would it surprise you to learn that GLP is classified as a "right-wing hate site" by federal authorities? I'm not saying that it IS but on the right day, government agents might make that assessment. They are known for jumping the gun, no?

Throw open talk about firearms into an already provocative mix of unchecked racism (seen here daily) and government subversion (also seen here daily) and you have a "dangerous terrorist threat".

You have to look at it through the eyes of the feds. They are LOOKING FOR A REASON.

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What if you aren't a coward and you stand for principles? What to do then. Still sneak and hide like a little bitch?

I'm not afraid to die. I say what I want to whom I want. End of story. If anyone, including the gov wants to bring a beaf, then they best tread lightly.
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What if you aren't a coward and you stand for principles? What to do then. Still sneak and hide like a little bitch?

I'm not afraid to die. I say what I want to whom I want. End of story. If anyone, including the gov wants to bring a beaf, then they best tread lightly.
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^^^See? BEWARE of people like this.^^^
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Roger that.
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I sold all my guns ages ago.

I gave away my ammo.

I recycled my holsters into leather chaps for use at Gay Pride/Democrat parades.

I love Obama.

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That's the spirit!!!

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They're looking for threats, plots maybe trends. But as far as firearm ownership goes. The millions with a ccw license are all on file. Anyone who has purchased a firearm legally is on file with the gun store. If you purchased ammo with a credit card your on file. So 95% of us are on file already....
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It's not so much "about guns". It's about fitting a certain "profile". Just by posting or viewing this website, you already fit HALF of the profile. Throw in proud firearm ownership and you are a "perfect fit".
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you should look at utube sometime.....
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They're looking for threats, plots maybe trends. But as far as firearm ownership goes. The millions with a ccw license are all on file. Anyone who has purchased a firearm legally is on file with the gun store. If you purchased ammo with a credit card your on file. So 95% of us are on file already....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28870983


It's not so much "about guns". It's about fitting a certain "profile". Just by posting or viewing this website, you already fit HALF of the profile. Throw in proud firearm ownership and you are a "perfect fit".
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you should look at utube sometime.....
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Believe me--I have! And I'm sure the feds are all over it.
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They're looking for threats, plots maybe trends. But as far as firearm ownership goes. The millions with a ccw license are all on file. Anyone who has purchased a firearm legally is on file with the gun store. If you purchased ammo with a credit card your on file. So 95% of us are on file already....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28870983


It's not so much "about guns". It's about fitting a certain "profile". Just by posting or viewing this website, you already fit HALF of the profile. Throw in proud firearm ownership and you are a "perfect fit".
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you should look at utube sometime.....
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Believe me--I have! And I'm sure the feds are all over it.
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so far they're revoked on CCW permit......
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It's not so much "about guns". It's about fitting a certain "profile". Just by posting or viewing this website, you already fit HALF of the profile. Throw in proud firearm ownership and you are a "perfect fit".
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you should look at utube sometime.....
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Believe me--I have! And I'm sure the feds are all over it.
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so far they're revoked on CCW permit......
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You mean it's a "banned term"?

Wait--you're talking about the firearms advocate who got his CCW revoked.

That's what I'm talking about. The authorities NOTICE.

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So in other words, forget about your first and second Amendment rights, forget about your fourth and fifth Amendment rights. Hell why don't we just forget about all our rights and live in fear the government just like this was fucking Russia. We should fear no man, and be subservient to none. If that gets me put on another list so be it. This is no time to hide under your bed. Whos side are you on op? The anti gun weenies are going ape shit with their verbal assault on our rights. Silence on our part shows a sign of content and weakness. Being weak will get us steamrolled, or worse. Pro 2nd amendment, firearms talk should be encouraged. Just keep talk of violence and anti government talk out of it.
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So in other words, forget about your first and second Amendment rights, forget about your fourth and fifth Amendment rights. Hell why don't we just forget about all our rights and live in fear the government just like this was fucking Russia. We should fear no man, and be subservient to none. If that gets me put on another list so be it. This is no time to hide under your bed. Whos side are you on op? The anti gun weenies are going ape shit with their verbal assault on our rights. Silence on our part shows a sign of content and weakness. Being weak will get us steamrolled, or worse. Pro 2nd amendment, firearms talk should be encouraged. Just keep talk of violence and anti government talk out of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1110300


^^^BEWARE of people like this!^^^


He doesn't get it.

In one thread you're critical of government.

In another thread you mention firearms.

etc.

Now you fit the profile.

Remember--there is a time and season for ALL THINGS.
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you should look at utube sometime.....
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Believe me--I have! And I'm sure the feds are all over it.
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so far they're revoked on CCW permit......
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You mean it's a "banned term"?

Wait--you're talking about the firearms advocate who got his CCW revoked.

That's what I'm talking about. The authorities NOTICE.
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crap, I can't write today. They revoked it because he made a generalized threat.
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There is not one single adult in this country that has not spoken an anti government sentiment at some point recently, on both sides of the party lines. That alone is enough. Like this...Obamas spending more of our tax money on another vacation.net snap on another list... it's ridiculous
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Believe me--I have! And I'm sure the feds are all over it.
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so far they're revoked on CCW permit......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28870983


You mean it's a "banned term"?

Wait--you're talking about the firearms advocate who got his CCW revoked.

That's what I'm talking about. The authorities NOTICE.
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crap, I can't write today. They revoked it because he made a generalized threat.
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Yeah. I saw the video. His "threat" would be nothing unusual around here. That's why I made this thread. You can criticize the government. You can be armed. But put the two together and the feds have got your number. Throw in anything that could be misconstrued as "racist", and you are in the federal crosshairs.
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So in other words, forget about your first and second Amendment rights, forget about your fourth and fifth Amendment rights. Hell why don't we just forget about all our rights and live in fear the government just like this was fucking Russia. We should fear no man, and be subservient to none. If that gets me put on another list so be it. This is no time to hide under your bed. Whos side are you on op? The anti gun weenies are going ape shit with their verbal assault on our rights. Silence on our part shows a sign of content and weakness. Being weak will get us steamrolled, or worse. Pro 2nd amendment, firearms talk should be encouraged. Just keep talk of violence and anti government talk out of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1110300


^^^BEWARE of people like this!^^^


He doesn't get it.

In one thread you're critical of government.

In another thread you mention firearms.

etc.

Now you fit the profile.

Remember--there is a time and season for ALL THINGS.
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This person doesnt get it, I dont give a fuck about their fucking lists there agent final you chickenshit shill
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There is not one single adult in this country that has not spoken an anti government sentiment at some point recently, on both sides of the party lines. That alone is enough. Like this...Obamas spending more of our tax money on another vacation.net snap on another list... it's ridiculous
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True. But being a "subversive" and an "armed threat" are two different things.

It won't always be like this.
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Let's face it--censorship is SHIT. However, SELF-censorship can and will SAVE YOUR ASS sometimes.

The way things are going with the US government trying to root out internet "extremists" (freedom-loving Americans), it's probably a good idea to practice some self-censorship when it comes to mentioning firearms, ammunition, accessories and magazines.

Look, we're ALL proud to support the 2nd Amendment. And most of us couldn't care less about what the federal government thinks of us. No one is a coward for keeping their armaments secret. Frankly, it's a good policy REGARDLESS of federal government threats to freedom. No one here has anything to prove.

It's getting to the point where the internet is shamelessly being monitored. And it's being monitored for everyday ordinary Americans who aren't satisfied with the federal government.

We're all on one "watch list" or another. But the feds are getting more aggressive. Think about your families.

One more thing:

BEWARE THE "LOUD AND PROUD" TYPES!!! Just remember how feds bust "domestic terrorists"! They fabricate the whole situation, provide the plans and the munitions and then they BUST THE POOR UNWITTING FUCKER WHO GOT WRAPPED UP IN THE GOVERNMENT-MADE PLOT.

In other words, beware of the people who say keeping quiet about your armament is an act of cowardess. Either they are morans or they are out to get you.

And if you think GLP isn't being HEAVILY MONITORED, you are WAY OFF.

Just my 2 cents.
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You can't hide anymore or they will pick you off one by one. The "loud and Proud" need to form one large group and stand together.

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