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Firearm Owner Discretion and Self-Censorship is More Important Now Than Ever

 
Anonymous Coward
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02/18/2013 08:55 PM
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Op we will never know what cards the opponent is dealt if it's a bluff or not. Same goes for us. I can claim to have an arsenal up my ass as a bluff which might cause the enemy to waste valuable resources time and money or even fold. You have to think about all the cards in play and the cards not in play. Of course people are entitled to their own opinion but asking people to play the same way isn't going to win. We need loud & obnoxious. Peaceful yet opinionated. People calling bluffs and people to fold and wait till the right time to put their cards into play. Being loud and obnoxious about it can be an unexpected surprise that has to be dealt with that they were not prepared for. Not everyone in the government agrees on what's going on with gun control and are probably waiting for the right time to reveal their cards but we still need the loud and obnoxious guys to slow the process so everyone else can prepare to go all in.
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I can see your point. I would just caution the loud and proud types to watch how they post in threads that have nothing to do with firearms. I would caution them to stay away from anything that heavily criticizes Obama or anything that could be misconstrued as even slightly "racist".

I know it seems extreme but the feds actually build profiles of what "domestic terrorists" are supposed to be like. They key words are:

armed
right-wing and
racist

And you KNOW the feds like to bend the definitions of those words.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


You can add a few more to that list:

Christians
Constitutionalists
Tax protesters
Home schoolers
Members of the sovereign individual movement
Those who promote seceding from the union
Those who speak about admiralty law
Those who are anti-vaccine
Any "-ist" or "-phobe" not in line with the current agenda
Anyone who uses a term like "banksters"
Those who are critical of surveillance technologies
Those critical of the TSA and police checkpoints
Those opposed to the UN or New World Order

And the list goes on...

I can remember when the feds' terrorist profile even included people who had recently purchased a Farmers Almanac.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31625978


Indeed the list goes on and on and on.

But right now, DHS is specifically trolling for:

armed
racist
anti federal government

But you're right. It's harder for anyone to NOT appear on some list than it is to get on one.

Everyone is a suspect. I hate it but it's true. Welcome to East Germany.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


What DHS is trolling for today, may not be what they're trolling for tomorrow, and the data they've been collecting will be stored for a very long time.

A few years ago I posted a comment on a thread advising the same thing that you are advising here. If it makes you feel any better, I got blasted for it, too.

Seriously, people, when was the last time you saw a military General print out a list of everything in his arsenal and hand it over to the opposition?

When things change, strategies and methods must change as well. In dangerous times, one must be alert and adaptable.
Anonymous Coward
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02/19/2013 01:10 AM
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It is easy to take out people in their homes. No witnesses.

Much harder when the whole world watches.

This is one of the reasons the protestors (especially the leaders) in many arab countries lived in tents in the middle of the square.

The second american revolution can not start until it is supported by the masses. You need to get that support. And you do not get it by only taök about guns.

Talk injustices. Talk Fed and globalist banksters. Talk Fema camps. Talk about unlawful wars. Talk about the Israeli maffia in DC. Lying media and the insane monopoly situation. Etc, etc.
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02/19/2013 01:17 AM
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I lucked out and bought 400 rounds of CCI Mini Mags at the local gun store today. $8.50 a box of 100. Hopefully your kid owns a 22 rifle
Anonymous Coward
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02/19/2013 01:19 AM
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This seems an effective way to shut down the forums by scaring people so much that they no longer post replies.
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^this. **** the government. they can come for me anytime they want, i hope i'm on that list, because i'm waiting.
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02/19/2013 02:25 AM
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It may seem silly to have to convince users of a "conspiracy forum" to be even MORE paranoid--BUT--with all the threads about ammunition and firearm accessory dealers that are posted every day here, IT MUST BE SAID--USE SOME SENSE, PEOPLE!!!

Sometimes paranoia will save your ass! Think about your families.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


i mean.......granted there ARE MILLIONS OUT HERE on this bs interNET and they know every keystroke-
big sis's lists
DoD lists
their DEFINITIONS for terrorists
licensed weapon owners etc
clubs
affiliations

then we have cameras,cars with license plates,surveillance cameras
is the eye in the sky still around ??
etc
they already know who we are.

gonna get interesting.

they're planning this shit for decades.
all a matter now what's said.
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02/19/2013 02:29 AM
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It is easy to take out people in their homes. No witnesses.

Much harder when the whole world watches.

This is one of the reasons the protestors (especially the leaders) in many arab countries lived in tents in the middle of the square.

The second american revolution can not start until it is supported by the masses. You need to get that support. And you do not get it by only taök about guns.

Talk injustices. Talk Fed and globalist banksters. Talk Fema camps. Talk about unlawful wars. Talk about the Israeli maffia in DC. Lying media and the insane monopoly situation. Etc, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26491065


LOL
the first American revolution was NOT SUPPORTED BY THE MASSES=
wasn't a majority running around either.


masses are asses too busy acting out and doing drugs etc.
that's why the cities are easy picking--ooooh there will be resistance but......
Dr. Lecter

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02/19/2013 02:35 AM
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I look at it this way... if I'm not already on somebody's list somewhere those people just aren't doing their jobs.
"Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again.

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02/19/2013 02:46 AM
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It is easy to take out people in their homes. No witnesses.

Much harder when the whole world watches.

This is one of the reasons the protestors (especially the leaders) in many arab countries lived in tents in the middle of the square.

The second american revolution can not start until it is supported by the masses. You need to get that support. And you do not get it by only taök about guns.

Talk injustices. Talk Fed and globalist banksters. Talk Fema camps. Talk about unlawful wars. Talk about the Israeli maffia in DC. Lying media and the insane monopoly situation. Etc, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26491065


LOL
the first American revolution was NOT SUPPORTED BY THE MASSES=
wasn't a majority running around either.


masses are asses too busy acting out and doing drugs etc.
that's why the cities are easy picking--ooooh there will be resistance but......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33250686


In those days the people did not live in a globalized community. It was enough to have the support of the majority where the battles were fought.

Revolutions in modern time fail if they start to early. You need the support of the majority.

And all revolutions have three stages that are sequential. Skip one and the next is bound to fail. We are now between the first (information exchange, unity forming) and the second (active peaceful protests, civil disobedience).

If you take it to the third stage (violent uprisings) too soon, you will fail. And the fact is that most tyrannical governments are toppled at the second stage.

Be inspired by the fall of the Sovietunion and the Berlin wall. Everyone said it was impossible to revolt against Kreml with all its might, but what happened once the people took to the streets in tens of thousands in peaceful disobedience?
odinson222

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02/19/2013 08:27 AM
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Let's face it--censorship is SHIT. However, SELF-censorship can and will SAVE YOUR ASS sometimes.

The way things are going with the US government trying to root out internet "extremists" (freedom-loving Americans), it's probably a good idea to practice some self-censorship when it comes to mentioning firearms, ammunition, accessories and magazines.

Look, we're ALL proud to support the 2nd Amendment. And most of us couldn't care less about what the federal government thinks of us. No one is a coward for keeping their armaments secret. Frankly, it's a good policy REGARDLESS of federal government threats to freedom. No one here has anything to prove.

It's getting to the point where the internet is shamelessly being monitored. And it's being monitored for everyday ordinary Americans who aren't satisfied with the federal government.

We're all on one "watch list" or another. But the feds are getting more aggressive. Think about your families.

One more thing:

BEWARE THE "LOUD AND PROUD" TYPES!!! Just remember how feds bust "domestic terrorists"! They fabricate the whole situation, provide the plans and the munitions and then they BUST THE POOR UNWITTING FUCKER WHO GOT WRAPPED UP IN THE GOVERNMENT-MADE PLOT.

In other words, beware of the people who say keeping quiet about your armament is an act of cowardess. Either they are morans or they are out to get you.

And if you think GLP isn't being HEAVILY MONITORED, you are WAY OFF.

Just my 2 cents.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


Hello

That is why I have sold my rifles and only have 2 hand guns.

God Bless
odinson222

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02/19/2013 08:32 AM
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I sold all my guns ages ago.

I gave away my ammo.

I recycled my holsters into leather chaps for use at Gay Pride/Democrat parades.

I love Obama.

ohappy
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