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Bye Bye Dollar...Hello Yuan! So it Begins...

 
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The Jews have sold America to China. Once China will claim what is theirs, the Jews will leave the sinking ship and start all over again in another country. History repeating itself, over and over again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34349378


Yeah. The 350 million Americans who are NOT Jewish had absolutely NO hand in the destruction of America.

The 7 billion people on the planet who are NOT Jewish had absolutely NO hand in the destruction of the world.

No matter what, its ALWAYS the Jews' fault.

anger
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1)"We Jews, we the destroyers, will remain the destroyers forever. NOTHING that you will do will meet our needs and demands. We will forever destroy, because we need a world of our own, a God-world, which it is not in your nature to build."

"You Gentiles", p.155, Maurice Samuel

2)Both Communism and International Bankers (Zionists) have a programme for the establishment of a single World Government, the former having been financed by the latter. "This world- wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation, and the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. And this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America, have become the undisputed masters of the world.

Winston Churchill, Illustrated Sunday Herald, Feb. 8th 1920
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The Jews have sold America to China. Once China will claim what is theirs, the Jews will leave the sinking ship and start all over again in another country. History repeating itself, over and over again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34349378


True, neighbour ;)
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Theres been many rich Americans moving to China lately..
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The Jews have sold America to China. Once China will claim what is theirs, the Jews will leave the sinking ship and start all over again in another country. History repeating itself, over and over again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34349378


Yeah. The 350 million Americans who are NOT Jewish had absolutely NO hand in the destruction of America.

The 7 billion people on the planet who are NOT Jewish had absolutely NO hand in the destruction of the world.

No matter what, its ALWAYS the Jews' fault.

anger
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1711362


Just who in the fuck do you think owns all of the western world's federal reserves and currencies? Who has financed and manipulated all of the major wars for the past several hundred years?

The retard factory is clearly not effected by hard economic times. Please do everyone a favor and shut the fuck up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23766809


Yeah I get it. Jews caused the dark ages, the crusades, the 800 wars Jihadis fought, 72 countries Jihadis invaded. Yeah all Christians are Jews. All Muslims are Jews. The entire fucking middle east is Jewish.

Iran is Jew.
Syria is Jew
American is Jew
England is Jew

Evey fucking thing on this planet is Jew.

NO NO NO the 7 billion fucktards are all innocent angel, never harmed even an ant, its ONLY THE JEWS who caused all the wars.

JEW JEW JEW JEW JEW JEWWWWWW!!!!!

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The Jews have sold America to China. Once China will claim what is theirs, the Jews will leave the sinking ship and start all over again in another country. History repeating itself, over and over again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34349378


Yeah. The 350 million Americans who are NOT Jewish had absolutely NO hand in the destruction of America.

The 7 billion people on the planet who are NOT Jewish had absolutely NO hand in the destruction of the world.

No matter what, its ALWAYS the Jews' fault.

anger
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1711362


Just who in the fuck do you think owns all of the western world's federal reserves and currencies? Who has financed and manipulated all of the major wars for the past several hundred years?

The retard factory is clearly not effected by hard economic times. Please do everyone a favor and shut the fuck up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23766809


Yeah I get it. Jews caused the dark ages, the crusades, the 800 wars Jihadis fought, 72 countries Jihadis invaded. Yeah all Christians are Jews. All Muslims are Jews. The entire fucking middle east is Jewish.

Iran is Jew.
Syria is Jew
American is Jew
England is Jew

Evey fucking thing on this planet is Jew.

NO NO NO the 7 billion fucktards are all innocent angel, never harmed even an ant, its ONLY THE JEWS who caused all the wars.

JEW JEW JEW JEW JEW JEWWWWWW!!!!!

slaphimslaphimslaphim
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1711362


What in the fuck are you even talking about retard?

God damn man, never go full retard.
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If the dollar is dumped, can Americans trade in another currency without repercussions? For example, if the Yuan is worth much more than the dollar, can we trade in Yuan here in the states? Just wondering how that works.
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Op with all due respect ... You got this from someone's blog. How is that a reliable source?
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Because it's on the Internet!

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and your shill head is in a TV
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Would it be a smart move to trade my money for Yuan's?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14505884


I would just not keep more than $1000USD saved and have all your money in some type of investments. metals, business ideas, whatever.

be prepared to change currencies once the USD begins crashing
 Quoting: SteamrolledGobias


You can't spend yuan in America. By the time the banks got thru with you on the exchange you will be screwed.

Do not buy stocks. Do not by currency.

Buy property/land with value. Acreage if you can but for cash. Don't hold a mortgage unless you know you will always have a job. Pay off your mortgage if you can before your money is devalued in half cause it will be. Cash shit out right now if you have to.

Buy Food. Right Now. Right Now. Enough dry goods for a couple of years because in a few months you won't be able to afford food. Get it.

Get a job closer to home because of the fuel prices and get a bike. Not motorized. Get a peddle bike or scooter and then keep it looked up cause it will be a commodity.

Down size now and sell all your useless shit right now. Go buy a puddle jumper if you need wheels. Get rid of payments right now.

Get Garden seeds and all the shit you need for a garden right now.

If you fail to do these things right now in a few months you will be sucking on this advice and eating dirt.
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Link for rest ( 50% rule): [link to goingglobaleastmeetswest.blogspot.com]

"February 18, 2013

Ok...we are seeing this starting with Yuan trading in banks world wide at this time...

This will mark the beginning of the official end of the US dollar.

Watch for nations dumping the dollar which will will lead to rampant inflation.

This will first be seen in gasoline prices and then reflected in all products market wide.

Food and fuel...will become so high priced that public outrage will pour into the streets.

This may start slow but if we as a nation (the United States) suffer any catastrophic military set backs anywhere in the world the process of "dollar dumping" by foreign nations will become frenzied to the point that we may see an overnight meltdown of the US economy.

Now people...is the time...to have a plan...and plan to act.

Phoenix"

Current financial crisis predicted in 1981 movie Rollover


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If so, I am afraid of that this is the merging of these two currencies. that is good.
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If the dollar is dumped, can Americans trade in another currency without repercussions? For example, if the Yuan is worth much more than the dollar, can we trade in Yuan here in the states? Just wondering how that works.
 Quoting: skyblau


There is a bank named Everbank and you can hold accounts in many currencies.

It is an internet bank but have a few offices/street branches around.

Link: [link to www.everbank.com (secure)]
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The Jews have sold America to China. Once China will claim what is theirs, the Jews will leave the sinking ship and start all over again in another country. History repeating itself, over and over again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34349378


Yeah. The 350 million Americans who are NOT Jewish had absolutely NO hand in the destruction of America.

The 7 billion people on the planet who are NOT Jewish had absolutely NO hand in the destruction of the world.

No matter what, its ALWAYS the Jews' fault.

anger
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cmon, why do you have to ruin my scapegoat for me? i feel so much better blaming everything on someone else!
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The Jews have sold America to China. Once China will claim what is theirs, the Jews will leave the sinking ship and start all over again in another country. History repeating itself, over and over again.
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Nice and true first comment.bump
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My intuition tells me we will see a natural catastrophic event first then from there they will make a unified currency. I don't think the bankers will let dollar completely collapse. The Arabs won't let that happen either. it will probably be heavily adjusted. but a complete collapse means total loss of control & power which our government and bankers will not let it happen.

dynamite
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So, does this mean the world is divided.

Russia and China want to dollar to collapse

while countries that have a lot to lose like Saudi would fight to see it stay a float?

Is this what could be a trigger to cause WW III ??
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maybe or maybe not

something much bigger could happen instead
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If the dollar is dumped, can Americans trade in another currency without repercussions? For example, if the Yuan is worth much more than the dollar, can we trade in Yuan here in the states? Just wondering how that works.
 Quoting: skyblau


There is a bank named Everbank and you can hold accounts in many currencies.

It is an internet bank but have a few offices/street branches around.

Link: [link to www.everbank.com (secure)]
 Quoting: PIR


Ya I bet thats really a safe bet. Don't put shit like that out there. An Internet Bank. Give me a break. Only a fool would keep money on the Internet. Power goes down then what Your broke. Fucking Morons. Shove that advice up your ass. Stay away from shit like this people.

Tangables and commodities. Think Barter and Trade. Think Barter and Trade. Think Barter and Trade. Get IT.

Laundry Soap. Soap. Sugar. Coffee. Flour. Rice Beans. Seeds. Seeds. Seeds.
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maybe or maybe not

something much bigger could happen instead
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If somthing much bigger happens its the same result. Same. Everything crashes. People only hope its bigger because the economic burden of the mortgage would disappear with the system. Either way if you don't stock pile food and tangibles and seeds its over for you.

The writing is on the wall. Get it Yet. Do You understand the scope of things to come. Don't blow any of this off.
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The Jews have sold America to China. Once China will claim what is theirs, the Jews will leave the sinking ship and start all over again in another country. History repeating itself, over and over again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34349378


baby The Joooo's stole my lollipop. (((((WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA)))))
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Was talking about this, this morning. All the properties and buildings around here use to be owned by the people in the area and Boston companies.
Now, the NY jews own everything around here. The land, buildings, businesses etc.
And they only take, they never give back. So once they have their hands on something, it's gone.
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Would it be a smart move to trade my money for Yuan's?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14505884


I would just not keep more than $1000USD saved and have all your money in some type of investments. metals, business ideas, whatever.

be prepared to change currencies once the USD begins crashing
 Quoting: SteamrolledGobias


You can't spend yuan in America. By the time the banks got thru with you on the exchange you will be screwed.

Do not buy stocks. Do not by currency.

Buy property/land with value. Acreage if you can but for cash. Don't hold a mortgage unless you know you will always have a job. Pay off your mortgage if you can before your money is devalued in half cause it will be. Cash shit out right now if you have to.

Buy Food. Right Now. Right Now. Enough dry goods for a couple of years because in a few months you won't be able to afford food. Get it.

Get a job closer to home because of the fuel prices and get a bike. Not motorized. Get a peddle bike or scooter and then keep it looked up cause it will be a commodity.

Down size now and sell all your useless shit right now. Go buy a puddle jumper if you need wheels. Get rid of payments right now.

Get Garden seeds and all the shit you need for a garden right now.

If you fail to do these things right now in a few months you will be sucking on this advice and eating dirt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34680879


Fucking this! ^^^

Those that fail to prepare are preparing to fail.
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Who said the Yuan will start to be used by international banks in international transactions?


Any credible sources?


That would be very nice, but it sounds too good to be true...
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As of last count, China owed us a little over 600 Billion, behind both the Federal Reserve and Japan...
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We really need to audit the fed.
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If the dollar is dumped, can Americans trade in another currency without repercussions? For example, if the Yuan is worth much more than the dollar, can we trade in Yuan here in the states? Just wondering how that works.
 Quoting: skyblau


There is a bank named Everbank and you can hold accounts in many currencies.

It is an internet bank but have a few offices/street branches around.

Link: [link to www.everbank.com (secure)]
 Quoting: PIR


Ya I bet thats really a safe bet. Don't put shit like that out there. An Internet Bank. Give me a break. Only a fool would keep money on the Internet. Power goes down then what Your broke. Fucking Morons. Shove that advice up your ass. Stay away from shit like this people.

Tangables and commodities. Think Barter and Trade. Think Barter and Trade. Think Barter and Trade. Get IT.

Laundry Soap. Soap. Sugar. Coffee. Flour. Rice Beans. Seeds. Seeds. Seeds.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34680879


Fucking this! ^^^
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My intuition tells me we will see a natural catastrophic event first then from there they will make a unified currency. I don't think the bankers will let dollar completely collapse. The Arabs won't let that happen either. it will probably be heavily adjusted. but a complete collapse means total loss of control & power which our government and bankers will not let it happen.

dynamite
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14443159


So, does this mean the world is divided.

Russia and China want to dollar to collapse

while countries that have a lot to lose like Saudi would fight to see it stay a float?

Is this what could be a trigger to cause WW III ??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32538141





Why Russia and China "want the dollar to collapse"?

Just because they "dare" to use another currency on their international trade?

Who "elected" the US dollar as the world's currency?

Who said countries are obliged to use the US dollar in their international trade?

Countries have the right to use the currency of their choice on their international trade.

Nobody is "forcing" the dollar to collapse.
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There is one big flaw in this argument. The Yuan is pegged to the dollar at an artificially low rate. If China removes that peg, their currency skyrockets and the prices of their exports skyrocket. It will kill their exports to the US and Europe. China would throw themselves right into a depression as manufacturing would return to the US and Europe.
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There is one big flaw in this argument. The Yuan is pegged to the dollar at an artificially low rate. If China removes that peg, their currency skyrockets and the prices of their exports skyrocket. It will kill their exports to the US and Europe. China would throw themselves right into a depression as manufacturing would return to the US and Europe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288758




That's why I don't believe in this news.

I don't believe the Yuan will start to be freely bought and sold in the international market.

China does not want that. Because that would make the Yuan more valuable, and China does NOT want that. Because that's bad for the exports, since Chinese products will become more expensive in the international market.
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The Jews have sold America to China. Once China will claim what is theirs, the Jews will leave the sinking ship and start all over again in another country. History repeating itself, over and over again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34349378


Yeah. The 350 million Americans who are NOT Jewish had absolutely NO hand in the destruction of America.

The 7 billion people on the planet who are NOT Jewish had absolutely NO hand in the destruction of the world.

No matter what, its ALWAYS the Jews' fault.

anger
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When 300 passengers are flying in an airplane, one pilot is more important than all of them to survive.
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The Jews have sold America to China. Once China will claim what is theirs, the Jews will leave the sinking ship and start all over again in another country. History repeating itself, over and over again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34349378


China is not even close to our largest creditor anymore...they are the third largest, and maybe fourth as of right now...

If you combine the debt we owe to the Nation of Saudi Arabia, and the House of Saud...we actually owe more money to them than we owe to China right now...

PLUS, China has been selling their long term 10 and 30 year T-Bills to the Fed since 2010, and buying back about 50% of what they're selling in the form of 1 to 3 year T-Bills...

As of last count, China owed us a little over 600 Billion, behind both the Federal Reserve and Japan...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


The FED owns more that what China owns and China owns 1.2 trilliion.

Social Security owns 2.7 trillion.

"What About Foreign Ownership of the Debt?
The breakout of foreign-held debt shows that China was the largest holder, at $1.161 trillion (as of October 2012, most recent data). Japan came in second, at $1.134 trillion. The oil exporting countries have been increasing their holdings, and have edged up to become #3 at at $266 billion. The Caribbean Banking Centers have also increased their holdings in recent years, and are now fourth, holding $258 billion. The Bureau of International Settlements has stated that the Caribbean centers, Luxembourg (at $139 billion) and Belgium ($133 billion) are probably fronts for oil-exporting countries and hedge funds that don't want to reveal their positions. Brazil is the fifth largest holder, at $255 billion. The next largest holders are Taiwan, Switzerland, Russia, Hong Kong and the United Kingdom, holding between $117-$201 billion each. (Source: Foreign Holding of U.S. Treasury Securities, December 17 2012; U.S. Treasury report ”Petrodollars and Global Imbalances”, February 2006)"

"Intragovernmental Holdings - Just under one-third of the Federal debt is owed to about 230 other Federal agencies. How does this happen? Some agencies, like the Social Security Trust Fund, take in more revenue from taxes than they need right now. Rather than stick this cash under a giant mattress, these agencies buy U.S. Treasuries with it.

Which agencies own the most Treasuries? Social Security, by a long shot. Here's the detailed breakdown:
•Social Security (Social Security Trust Fund and Federal Disability Insurance Trust Fund) - $2.72 trillion
•Office of Personnel Management (Federal Employees Retirement, Life Insurance, Hospital Insurance Trust Funds, including Postal Service Fund) - $1.12 trillion
•Dept. of Health and Human Services (Federal Supplementary Medical Insurance Trust Fund) - $69 billion
•Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation - $35 billion
•Department of Transportation (Airport and Highway Trust Fund) - $20 billion
•Department of the Treasury (Exchange Stabilization Fund) - $23 billion
•Department of Labor (Unemployment Trust Fund) - $21 billion
•Other Programs and Funds - $933 billion. (As of September 2012. Source: Treasury Bulletin, Monthly Treasury Statement, Table FD-3:Government Account Series)"

"Debt Held by the Public - Foreign governments and investors hold 48% of the nation's public debt. The next largest part (21%) is held by other governmental entities, like the Federal Reserve and state and local governments. Fifteen percent is held by mutual funds, private pension funds, savings bonds or individual Treasury notes. The rest (16%) is held by businesses, like banks, and insurance companies and a mish-mash of trusts, businesses and investors. Here's the breakout:•Foreign - $5.311 trillion
•Federal Reserve - $1.66 trillion
•State and Local Government, including their pension funds - $709.1 billion
•Mutual Funds - $864.9 billion
•Private Pension Funds - $605.2 billion
•Banks - $305.2 billion
•Insurance Companies - $259.1 billion
•U.S. Savings Bonds - $184.7 billion
•Other (individuals, government-sponsored enterprises, brokers and dealers, bank personal trusts and estates, corporate and non-corporate businesses, and other investors) - $1.14 trillion. (Federal Reserve as of Januray 2, 2013; All others as of June 2012. Source: Treasury Bulletin, Ownership of Federal Securities, Table OFS-2)"
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Would it be a smart move to trade my money for Yuan's?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14505884


I would just not keep more than $1000USD saved and have all your money in some type of investments. metals, business ideas, whatever.

be prepared to change currencies once the USD begins crashing
 Quoting: SteamrolledGobias


You can't spend yuan in America. By the time the banks got thru with you on the exchange you will be screwed.

Do not buy stocks. Do not by currency.

Buy property/land with value. Acreage if you can but for cash. Don't hold a mortgage unless you know you will always have a job. Pay off your mortgage if you can before your money is devalued in half cause it will be. Cash shit out right now if you have to.

Buy Food. Right Now. Right Now. Enough dry goods for a couple of years because in a few months you won't be able to afford food. Get it.

Get a job closer to home because of the fuel prices and get a bike. Not motorized. Get a peddle bike or scooter and then keep it looked up cause it will be a commodity.

Down size now and sell all your useless shit right now. Go buy a puddle jumper if you need wheels. Get rid of payments right now.

Get Garden seeds and all the shit you need for a garden right now.

If you fail to do these things right now in a few months you will be sucking on this advice and eating dirt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34680879


Here's the deal guys, over the next few years we will see the inevitable re-backing of currencies around the world with a basket of commodities/securities approach.

The Chinese may start that process by backing the Yuan with gold, but there will not be enough in circulations to fill the demand for it, not even close.

This will however, signal the end of the Dollar as the world reserve currency!

Eventually, after enough Chaos has ensued that people demand a solution, each country will begin backing their currencies with the commodities/securities that they produce. Then all of these currencies will be pegged together and put under the control of a world organization (government) most likely the BIS (Bank of International Settlements). So even though your dollar will still look familiar to you, it will have a static value in relation to the Chinese Yuan. This will essentially be your world currency...

This will serve two purposes, this devaluation, then eventual re-valuation of currency will solve the sovereign debt crisis. And it will put the total assets of every country under the control of the Central Banks, who in turn will be controlled by the BIS...

And 90% of people will get on their knee's to thank them for saving a small pittance of the pension or 401k...

Mark my words, it's coming...

Last Edited by Saddletramp on 02/18/2013 01:19 PM
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