Scoop the Nuts: NYC Rounds Up the Mentally Ill

When a person is in psychosis, they are unable to function in a normal manner, mate. What you are describing is not psychosis. There are a lot of different mental illnesses. A person who is in psychosis cannot 'get away with appearing normal'. lol at that.

I find your posts ironic because you have no idea what I do ...

In fact, let's leave it at that. However, I can tell you that your little stereotype is COMPLETE bullshit.

They make up the BULK of the homeless population? Want to share some evidence to back that up or are you going to keep spewing nonsense and pretending to sound like you know what you're talking about? Let me guess...you KNOW because you were homeless (but also psychotic).

Just because you had a crazy breakdown doesn't mean you have any further insight to this. It just means you had psychotic break (which I'm guessing a nice little psychiatrist told you, yes? then put you on hmmmm lemme guess...risperidone? haliperidol? olanzapine?)

READ the article:

"In the past, the city Department of Health would ask cops for help finding mentally ill people who aren’t taking their court-mandated meds so they could be taken to clinics. But that only applied to those who had known addresses — and patients who went off the grid were rarely pursued...Cops in the NYPD’s Real Time Crime Center are using high-tech methods to first track down the individuals, and detectives on the street have been assigned to then go after them"...

So YES this IS New and Odd.

We're talking about a high-tech round-up of people the "authorities" have deemed "mentally ill" and "dangerous".

If you can't see the slippery slope, hun, then forget it. I'm not going to argue the obvious with you.

Let me stop here before I continue a rant about the quackery that IS the field of psychiatry...

wow you know what? you are extremely rude. I find your attitude in this post disgustingly rude.
um excuse me on your judgement of my condition and what you suppose I did and had diagnosed and was medicated? The answer is no to all of your assumptions on it. but really that is none of your business. And seriously, you are way too rude to even be replying to. your attitude is disgusting and welcome to my ignore list.

I have met many who are very psychotic but wear nice business suits and are not homeless

but have what this world deems as

'respectable careers'

Believe me

I have met many psychotics make a lot of money in high careers

not all psychotics are homeless

So what.... We all know the hospitals don't want them anyway. They will look them over and turn them right back out. It's a revolving door system and has been since Reagan shut down all the "nut" houses in the 80's. It's just a dog and pony show to make the sheeples think "something" is being done.

Don't want people to respond to what you say? DON'T PUT YOUR CONDITION ON A PUBLIC FORUM THEN.

Cripes.

Since they have already declared most of as "mentally unstable" and potential terrorists, this could be the first step toward locking up anyone that doesn't support their agenda. Support the 2nd amendment, it might be all that keeps them from locking you up!

As an impartial observer I will say that Requiem's assertion that the majority of homeless are clinically insane is probably a little off. But I also don't think that rounding up 25 folks who are presumably VERY sick equals a slippery slope to tyranny.

I know exactly where your coming from though I am extremely skeptical of the pseudo-science they call "psychiatry".

But there are some homeless out there that are extremely dangerous. They harm innocent people and slip in and out of society so I assume "high tech" methods are required to find these disturbed people in such a highly populated city.

You are right. There are also many people who are NOT homeless who are extremely violent and dangerous as well.


So tell me this: where do we draw the line on rounding up potentially "dangerous" folk? How do we standardize such a term? Who has the authority to standardize what constitutes a potential threat?
Do we start a Minority Report type society?

Do you see where this goes?

You are right. There are also many people who are NOT homeless who are extremely violent and dangerous as well.


So tell me this: where do we draw the line on rounding up potentially "dangerous" folk? How do we standardize such a term? Who has the authority to standardize what constitutes a potential threat?
Do we start a Minority Report type society?

Do you see where this goes?

Yes they can.

Some of the most psychotic individuals in the world are charming and highly eloquent.

right

I have a hive of them living in the rental beside me and they scare me shitless.

Right now theyare driving across my drive, and across the sidewalk to enter the highway; creating an ice patch on the public sidewalk in front of my house, and the driveway, before I can shovel the soft snow away and salt the area. If anyone slips and falls on it I will be sued, so I have to do something about it. I cannot just ignore it.

So, i have to try to think of ways of what you would do with a wild animal to discourage it away from any troublesome area it is creating. It is a weird and scary life, but I have dealt with such, as a farmer and in my work-life as a HHA. I thought I could retire, but I guess not.

According to the NY Post, NYC has begun a "roundup" of the mentally ill homeless who hang around subway stations.

The city has already drawn up a list of 25 targets

This comes after a pair of high-profile subway-shove fatalities from December.

“After the Queens subway attack [of immigrant Sunando Sen], the [city] decided to take a proactive approach to track down the most dangerous mental-health patients that currently have mental-hygiene warrants” out for them, a law-enforcement source said. ()

Cops in the NYPD’s Real Time Crime Center are using high-tech methods to first track down the individuals, and detectives on the street have been assigned to then go after them and take them to hospitals, law-enforcement sources said.
[link to www.nypost.com]

So, it begins with the mentally ill "undesirables"....

jacuzzi albinos?

In a perfect world, with good intentions and rainbows and shit... this is a good idea.

But.. yeah.. this aint no perfect world by any stretch, and America is on a tightrope right now balancing 2 rabid rottweilers.. and a poodle on heat just ran by...

In this society that just loves to classify each human into some hole, we already have rectangles being forced into triangle holes. the loose terminology in the statement presented in the OP is beyond scary, as is my point.. there will be no "line", they will go for that extra mile and if you cannot see that.. then i have a bridge to sell you.

Seriously.. Metal "health" is a joke, psychology is a dark art of guesswork and chemical manipulation. it wasn't that long ago they were still doing nasty things to try and figure out "how that works" .. not that long ago..

Don't get me started on "body language" and other dangerous fads that have been adopted by certain "professionals" even if they don't admit they use it to diagnose.. they'll talk your ear of about how they know someones lying because they looked to the left or scratched their nose..

There really isn't any good in much of it, this "law" will make it worse, and if it spreads (as these thing like to do once proved effective and easy) we're ALL in serious shit.

Thought i'd come back and add to my previous "raggghhhhhh!!" with some clarity (caffine is awesome!)

In a perfect world, with good intentions and rainbows and shit... this is a good idea.

But.. yeah.. this aint no perfect world by any stretch, and America is on a tightrope right now balancing 2 rabid rottweilers.. and a poodle on heat just ran by...

In this society that just loves to classify each human into some hole, we already have rectangles being forced into triangle holes. the loose terminology in the statement presented in the OP is beyond scary, as is my point.. there will be no "line", they will go for that extra mile and if you cannot see that.. then i have a bridge to sell you.

Seriously.. Metal "health" is a joke, psychology is a dark art of guesswork and chemical manipulation. it wasn't that long ago they were still doing nasty things to try and figure out "how that works" .. not that long ago..

Don't get me started on "body language" and other dangerous fads that have been adopted by certain "professionals" even if they don't admit they use it to diagnose.. they'll talk your ear of about how they know someones lying because they looked to the left or scratched their nose..

There really isn't any good in much of it, this "law" will make it worse, and if it spreads (as these thing like to do once proved effective and easy) we're ALL in serious shit.

Thought i'd come back and add to my previous "raggghhhhhh!!" with some clarity (caffine is awesome!)

:alecbenuts:



Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Antisemites are insane.

this is more complicated than that. I have a sibling who manages ok on meds(can feed herself, pay the bills, do all the regualar stuff) but unfortunately goes off them reguarly.She can't take care of herself off meds because the paranoia sets in she scares everyone and she ends up evicted. So she is mentally ill and receives disability and can see a state assigned psychiatrist but when she goes off the meds and won't see the doc there is not a damn thing anyone can do. I am pretty sure she is about to be homeless this time because the state can't lock her up in a mental hospital unless she hurts someone.

so now do you know why there are so many crazy homeless people?

So if you go crazy and manage to get disability you better take the pills remember that. It is better than being homeless and then picked up by the Bloomberg mental hygiene squad. What happens then?