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Deadbeat dads and their kids...

 
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Right..... what about the crazy moms that put child support on the guys and never let them see their child.Females are fucking crazy these days but i guess is the guys fault.Hey op FUCK YOU!
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"... studies indicate that roughly 40 percent of children in the U.S. grow up with absent fathers. Those same children are twice as likely to be incarcerated, 63 percent of youth suicides are from fatherless homes and 71 percent of all high school dropouts are from fatherless homes, statistics show. ..."

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Tell that to my dead beat x-wife, who has not paid me a dime in 7 years.
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"... studies indicate that roughly 40 percent of children in the U.S. grow up with absent fathers. Those same children are twice as likely to be incarcerated, 63 percent of youth suicides are from fatherless homes and 71 percent of all high school dropouts are from fatherless homes, statistics show. ..."

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I have two kids from a previous marriage and I paid my legal obligations and then some. I probably overdid because I did not want the label of a dead-beat dad.

My kids are in my life and I tell them I love them every time I see them.

With that in mind I say:

Fuck the dead-beat dads. I have no sympathy for them.
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"... studies indicate that roughly 40 percent of children in the U.S. grow up with absent fathers. Those same children are twice as likely to be incarcerated, 63 percent of youth suicides are from fatherless homes and 71 percent of all high school dropouts are from fatherless homes, statistics show. ..."

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I have two kids from a previous marriage and I paid my legal obligations and then some. I probably overdid because I did not want the label of a dead-beat dad.

My kids are in my life and I tell them I love them every time I see them.

With that in mind I say:

Fuck the dead-beat dads. I have no sympathy for them.
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Well done sir. Respect for you.
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My ex got another woman pregnant when I was serving in Iraq. I guess I should have stayed with him. BTW, I had to enforce child support through court order, because he could not stick to the arrangement we made out of court. Not only that, but he would often bring our child to me when he knew I had plans just so he could go fuck around with bimbos or his new baby mama that he met at the strip club. Smoking burner in the car with the kid riding shotgun in an infant carrier. Fuck yeah, dad of the year.
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Well..YOU chose him.

Where was your "Intuition"?

Or was waggy tingling way too much to turn it on?
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My ex got another woman pregnant when I was serving in Iraq. I guess I should have stayed with him. BTW, I had to enforce child support through court order, because he could not stick to the arrangement we made out of court. Not only that, but he would often bring our child to me when he knew I had plans just so he could go fuck around with bimbos or his new baby mama that he met at the strip club. Smoking burner in the car with the kid riding shotgun in an infant carrier. Fuck yeah, dad of the year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1324238


You tried civility first - kudos to you. No man would bash you for that. Hell - most any man would not hold one iota against you if you went after him legally - but only because you were civil first. 99% of women are not. Thank you feminazis.
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So... how do we help the kids... who seem to be the real victims?
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Courts need to stop 'punishment' of the parents and instead use their 'power' to force both into counseling to resolve their issue - in a civil way not a financial one.

As it is now, they punish the NCP into near suicide which the CP while saying is sad and selfish - hurts the kids while the CP is relishing in victory as she will get his death benifits without further hassle.

The current war on fathers was pushed by feminists and condoned by Bill Clinton to punish the non-complying man into obeying a womans 'choice' to leave with no consequences while leaving an impossible burden on any man who even tries to have any life after the breakup.

Bottom line - fiminism has turned kids into a bargaining chip for the woman to force a man to follow her demands, thus reducing the man to a slave. That is feminists attitude just as blacks want reparations - as revenge for what was once a problem but no longer is.

So if you want the kids to truly be #1 - then use the courts to 'force' BOTH parents into being civil - not able to pursue 'legal murder' of the NCP.

Until then - we will have the further disintigration of the 'family' atmosphere in the USA.

Hope that helps.
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DO NOT ALLOW PEOPLE TO BREED UNTIL THEY CAN SUPPORT THEIR OFFSPRING BOTH MONETARILY AND EMOTIONALLY. MANDATORY TEMP STERILIZATION UNTIL YOU CAN PASS A 'TEST' THAT YOU ARE CAPABLE OF REARING OUR MOST PRECIOUS RESOURCE... OUR CHILDREN...
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Yep, most people can't even raise children properly. This makes sense. Crackheads, gangsters, whores, sluts, players, dumbshits to be sterilized, good solution.
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RETARDS, NOT ALL OF THESE DEADBEATS ARE DEADBEATS. IDIOTS. FUCKING WHORE MOTHERS KEEP THE KIDS FROM THE DAD AND USE THE LAW TO PUNISH HIM. AND SHAME ON THE FUCKING USA, LAND OF THE FREE(?) FOR USING LAW TO ABUSE FATHERS. FUCK YOU.
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Well said.

It also redeeming watch how the children respect the mothers after they grow up and learn the truth.
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"... studies indicate that roughly 40 percent of children in the U.S. grow up with absent fathers. Those same children are twice as likely to be incarcerated, 63 percent of youth suicides are from fatherless homes and 71 percent of all high school dropouts are from fatherless homes, statistics show. ..."

[link to www.theblaze.com]
 Quoting: the proble 21769045


I have two kids from a previous marriage and I paid my legal obligations and then some. I probably overdid because I did not want the label of a dead-beat dad.

My kids are in my life and I tell them I love them every time I see them.

With that in mind I say:

Fuck the dead-beat dads. I have no sympathy for them.
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Well done sir. Respect for you.
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Fuck you sir... My ex called every employer on my resume and gave a bleeding-heart story and since then have been unemployable. Not even minimum wage jobs as all they do is Google your name and bingo - anything they can use to decide to hire you or not.

So after 18 months she files for support. After she stripped the house of everything bolted down - even the A/C unit - and cops let her due to 'civil domestic' issue of equal ownership excuse(HINT: bank ownes fixtures until mortgage is paid off not homeowner) With no income and now homeless and bankrupt and no employer to hire me...

Fuck you for browbeating those who WOULD be in their kids lives if the heinous spawn-from-hell didn't eliminate my job references.

Do you make it a habit to look down your nose at others worse off than you? Apparently you do.

Until you have walked a day in my shoes you have no place to judge there asswipe.
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"... studies indicate that roughly 40 percent of children in the U.S. grow up with absent fathers. Those same children are twice as likely to be incarcerated, 63 percent of youth suicides are from fatherless homes and 71 percent of all high school dropouts are from fatherless homes, statistics show. ..."

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What percentage of those fatherless families are a direct consequence of a hateful mother isolating the children from their dad?
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RETARDS, NOT ALL OF THESE DEADBEATS ARE DEADBEATS. IDIOTS. FUCKING WHORE MOTHERS KEEP THE KIDS FROM THE DAD AND USE THE LAW TO PUNISH HIM. AND SHAME ON THE FUCKING USA, LAND OF THE FREE(?) FOR USING LAW TO ABUSE FATHERS. FUCK YOU.
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Well said.

It also redeeming watch how the children respect the mothers after they grow up and learn the truth.
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.....or the truth of how the mother pushed the father away for petty selfish reasons... only to find out the truth of a fuked up mother.

Have seen one such case a friends daughter found him after 20 years and learned the truth. She confronted her mother with evidence the father saved and now those two do not speak as the daughter realizes it was the mothers fault for the breakup in the first place.

Woman are not all victims though many would like the rest to think so.

Works both ways.
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"... studies indicate that roughly 40 percent of children in the U.S. grow up with absent fathers. Those same children are twice as likely to be incarcerated, 63 percent of youth suicides are from fatherless homes and 71 percent of all high school dropouts are from fatherless homes, statistics show. ..."

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What percentage of those fatherless families are a direct consequence of a hateful mother isolating the children from their dad?
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Here is a hint... over 90% of domestic injunctions are against first-time offense men. Of those, if memory serves from the govt statistics 40% of those involved kids.

A domestic injunction is the easiest way to get 100% uncontested custody of any kids - without a lawyer and no cost to the woman.

In case you have been living under a rock (no insult meant) then a domestic injunction is the premium choice for a fast-and-free divorce with no consequence - unless you are the one it is against.

Check you own county for recent statistics too. You will be shocked by how they are handed out like candy these days.

And you wonder why the USA has lost its way... wake up already!
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Serious question: then how do we keep marriages intact or should society even mess in people's lives?

Secondly, is there a correlation between broken families and lack of spiritual growth in the home?
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Anyone?
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I am a man and I blame the males for this problem.

You were dumb enough to marry without learning from the mistakes of others, or taking their warnings not to go into marriage. Now you are getting raped. Learn from mistakes of others next time, don't fucking get married.

Second, how did you get her pregnant? Did you want kids? How about this, ADOPT a child. That's right, single dad with an adopted child, how hard is that?
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Serious question: then how do we keep marriages intact or should society even mess in people's lives?

Secondly, is there a correlation between broken families and lack of spiritual growth in the home?
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Anyone?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21769045


Serious answer: Stop the incentive of welfare to custodial parents. Many will have kids just to look good as a mother then live off the government and non-custodial parent.

Start by eliminating the double-standards in courts which make the kids victims. Use the courts intervention as a tool to get the two parents - regardless of their issues - to be civil and not trying to hurt the other financially or physically.

All too often - and I can not be any more serious here... the courts just grant the petitioners request and say 'move along now' with no real way to sustain the decisions. Hurts the kids but empowers the attacker... er mother... to deprive the kids of their father. Dead serious. Hell... the govt does not even keep statistics of men who commit suicide due to child support arrears. One final indignation to the man. Thank you family court/feminists.

Another govt statistic... look at the mortality rates. Up to 40 years old there are a roughly 52-48 split among men and women. Once 40 years of age passes those numbers change. By 50 years old there is 58% women to 42% men. Suicides make up a great proportion of that huge change and many are due to child support courts leaving a man no other choice. Also explains why as women get older there really are less men around - by age 50! Look it up in the govt websites for statistics and see for yourself.

And finally, YES there a correlation between broken families and lack of spiritual growth in the home. In a nutshell, broken homes leave kids as adults with unresolved issues they take in to adulthood. Great for therapists and cops/courts/lawyers but destructive to the poor put upon kid who is now an adult.

Parents who lie to their kids or deny a solid family unit are guilty of bad parenting. Many use the excuse of 'I did the best I could' but always end it with '.. if only your father...'.

One thing that can not be stressed enough: By nature men are physical and women are emotional. I have seen this with every woman who was not marriage material - they never dealt with their issues and instead change the memories to appear as a victim. No lie - seen it with my own two eyes. When hard proof/video/witness accounts all say the same thing and the woman does not see it that way, then years later she recalls it from a victims perspective. This tells me many women who can not handle the truth are taught to be a victim. This is why the USA has seen the 20-somethings go off the chain... they are almost bred to be victims. This has got to stop.

Sorry so long - hope this helps some.
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Learn about Parental Alienation Syndrome. Not all fathers are "deadbeat" to begin with...but they end up that way after the mother works double time to poison the child's mind that dad is lazy, abusive, evil, selfish, hates the kids, etc. Name your poison because there are many flavors and some women are so vile they use a potent cocktail containing every single one.

Dads try to stay connected, and then are repeatedly rejected, stood up, told what @ssholes they are, and ignored. When dad can no longer see the kids (because the kid WON'T see dad since dad is so evil) then mom can proudly announce to the world what a dead beat the dad is.

I saw this pattern occur in many many of my friends, and in my boyfriend. I too am divorced and while I really really dislike my ex, not a birthday/holiday/father's day goes by where I am not reminding the kid to get a gift/call dad/see dad.

Part of this is for selfish reasons. See, I know that ultimately this will come back and bite the mom in the @ss one day. It all comes home to roost round about the time the kids have their own kids. Then they begin to realize what mom has done, seeing it through the eyes of a parent for the first time. Mom ends up with a bountiful harvest of anger, bitterness, and contempt flung at her by her own kids.

Parental alienation syndrome = pure evil, and parents who love their kids don't do it.

DON'T DO IT.
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Learn about Parental Alienation Syndrome. Not all fathers are "deadbeat" to begin with...but they end up that way after the mother works double time to poison the child's mind that dad is lazy, abusive, evil, selfish, hates the kids, etc. Name your poison because there are many flavors and some women are so vile they use a potent cocktail containing every single one.

Dads try to stay connected, and then are repeatedly rejected, stood up, told what @ssholes they are, and ignored. When dad can no longer see the kids (because the kid WON'T see dad since dad is so evil) then mom can proudly announce to the world what a dead beat the dad is.

I saw this pattern occur in many many of my friends, and in my boyfriend. I too am divorced and while I really really dislike my ex, not a birthday/holiday/father's day goes by where I am not reminding the kid to get a gift/call dad/see dad.

Part of this is for selfish reasons. See, I know that ultimately this will come back and bite the mom in the @ss one day. It all comes home to roost round about the time the kids have their own kids. Then they begin to realize what mom has done, seeing it through the eyes of a parent for the first time. Mom ends up with a bountiful harvest of anger, bitterness, and contempt flung at her by her own kids.

Parental alienation syndrome = pure evil, and parents who love their kids don't do it.

DON'T DO IT.
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^^THIS^^

+10000
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RETARDS, NOT ALL OF THESE DEADBEATS ARE DEADBEATS. IDIOTS. FUCKING WHORE MOTHERS KEEP THE KIDS FROM THE DAD AND USE THE LAW TO PUNISH HIM. AND SHAME ON THE FUCKING USA, LAND OF THE FREE(?) FOR USING LAW TO ABUSE FATHERS. FUCK YOU.
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Very True could not have said it better!
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RETARDS, NOT ALL OF THESE DEADBEATS ARE DEADBEATS. IDIOTS. FUCKING WHORE MOTHERS KEEP THE KIDS FROM THE DAD AND USE THE LAW TO PUNISH HIM. AND SHAME ON THE FUCKING USA, LAND OF THE FREE(?) FOR USING LAW TO ABUSE FATHERS. FUCK YOU.
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Amen... Im sick of seeing and thinking about how my child is being hurt cuz of that bitch... Not all are, biut mine made a damn business out of it
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My ex was a dead beat dad and now that my kids are grown he comes around when it suits him.They love him no matter how many times he let them down.Sometimes I think they love him more.I was always there but if they get mad they will tell me off and smile at him.
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So they want to see you squirm. Mom's and Dads shouldnt be jealous over the kids. It's distorted...
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I am a bankruptcy attorney. It goes hand in hand with divorce.

There are many guys who are dead beats. Since I am anonymous here I can say they are mostly blacks.

In the case of whites, it is usually the women who are to blame. It is typically the women who are the cause of the divorce and yes the system is very broken. The judges and magistrates are corrupt or brainwashed.

Many men walk away from the system, not their children. And I don't blame them. It is the women who are to blame. The men usually approach a divorce and custody argument with an equal mindset. It is the woman, in almost all cases, who tries to exploit the system for gain. The woman typically cares nothing for the children. She is usually just looking for charity and subsidies.

What women fail to see is that most men are willing to give everything for their kids in turn for equal custody. But most of the time the woman is out for blood, even though she was the one cheating, and the kids lose.

This isn't an opinion. It is meerly an observation. As far as karmic laws go, it will be the women in these cases who pay the price. The fathers are intrinsically justified to 50% custody no matter what. But women have undeserved self righteousness due to the corrupt system. And the broken system is just as much to blame for divorce as the television is.

We can only hope some day things are set straight. But it may take violence to make it so.

That is my unofficial statement on that.
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My ex was a dead beat dad and now that my kids are grown he comes around when it suits him.They love him no matter how many times he let them down.Sometimes I think they love him more.I was always there but if they get mad they will tell me off and smile at him.
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So they want to see you squirm. Mom's and Dads shouldnt be jealous over the kids. It's distorted...
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Sadly this is so true today. 99% women want to stick it to the father and claim victim while doing so. All she does is mess up the kids but most USA women are brainwashed to feel they have to put down a man before they will get any credibility or sympathy. Sad but true.

Gee lady - maybe you should have been more civil during your time apart. Can you say homewrecker? Sounds like it to me!
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I am a bankruptcy attorney. It goes hand in hand with divorce.

There are many guys who are dead beats. Since I am anonymous here I can say they are mostly blacks.

In the case of whites, it is usually the women who are to blame. It is typically the women who are the cause of the divorce and yes the system is very broken. The judges and magistrates are corrupt or brainwashed.

Many men walk away from the system, not their children. And I don't blame them. It is the women who are to blame. The men usually approach a divorce and custody argument with an equal mindset. It is the woman, in almost all cases, who tries to exploit the system for gain. The woman typically cares nothing for the children. She is usually just looking for charity and subsidies.

What women fail to see is that most men are willing to give everything for their kids in turn for equal custody. But most of the time the woman is out for blood, even though she was the one cheating, and the kids lose.

This isn't an opinion. It is meerly an observation. As far as karmic laws go, it will be the women in these cases who pay the price. The fathers are intrinsically justified to 50% custody no matter what. But women have undeserved self righteousness due to the corrupt system. And the broken system is just as much to blame for divorce as the television is.

We can only hope some day things are set straight. But it may take violence to make it so.

That is my unofficial statement on that.
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^^100% TRUE!!^^

Before calling someone a deadbeat and expecting to gain sympathy better look at what one within the system says so many already know! NOBODY FEELS SORRY FOR YOU WHEN YOU CALL A MAN A DEADBEAT ANYMORE!!! Well, except your feminazi destroyer friends.
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I am a bankruptcy attorney. It goes hand in hand with divorce.

There are many guys who are dead beats. Since I am anonymous here I can say they are mostly blacks.

In the case of whites, it is usually the women who are to blame. It is typically the women who are the cause of the divorce and yes the system is very broken. The judges and magistrates are corrupt or brainwashed.

Many men walk away from the system, not their children. And I don't blame them. It is the women who are to blame. The men usually approach a divorce and custody argument with an equal mindset. It is the woman, in almost all cases, who tries to exploit the system for gain. The woman typically cares nothing for the children. She is usually just looking for charity and subsidies.

What women fail to see is that most men are willing to give everything for their kids in turn for equal custody. But most of the time the woman is out for blood, even though she was the one cheating, and the kids lose.

This isn't an opinion. It is meerly an observation. As far as karmic laws go, it will be the women in these cases who pay the price. The fathers are intrinsically justified to 50% custody no matter what. But women have undeserved self righteousness due to the corrupt system. And the broken system is just as much to blame for divorce as the television is.

We can only hope some day things are set straight. But it may take violence to make it so.

That is my unofficial statement on that.
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bump
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legally

the child is an asset of the US CORPORATION
once the parents sign the Birth Certificate.
Once an asset of the CORPORATION,
it is their responsibility to support.

which is exactly why they can take
the child out of the home at will.

but you won't hear that info from any
judge that presides in a court with
a gold fringe around the flag.
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its really about more than just the baby. it's a crazy cycle

we live in a NOW NOW NOW society. All convenience. People don't think they can get pregnant as easy because they got condoms and pills and such. But if you can't afford to have a child now you want somebody to help you pay your bills. Now gender roles are non-existent as everybody works so blame just gets cast all around .

my life for instance. I was on disability. I moved to be with my ex while she was pregnant. What I DID NOT KNOW was that SHE WAS SO FAR IN DEBT. I thought ok I'll help out and do what we gotta do. But then little stuff started to come out and it wasn't about me and her and the baby it was now OUR BILLS. I didn't even make them but now they are OURS because of the baby. Meanwhile she's not saving anything that comes in BUT SHE ISN'T TELLING. Just acting like I'm going to make it better because that's what men are supposed to do.

so this goes on for a while and now its WELL I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. But when I asked before NONE of that was shared. So now I'm the bad guy because I can't support her habits. Then the kicker was I watched the baby the first year she was alive. Waited on her hand and foot NEVER EVEN HAD A DIAPER RASH UNDER MY CARE. Her mom says that she wants to put her in day care so I can go work. I say cool, but I don't get a choice in the day care and now it's another bill without my consent. That somehow becomes my fault as well. We broke up not surprisingly.

It is more about being a victim than anything. passing the blame is not going to help. But in the eyes of her and her family I'm a deadbeat for not contributing to her failed ways.

sometimes you just can't win
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its really about more than just the baby. it's a crazy cycle

we live in a NOW NOW NOW society. All convenience. People don't think they can get pregnant as easy because they got condoms and pills and such. But if you can't afford to have a child now you want somebody to help you pay your bills. Now gender roles are non-existent as everybody works so blame just gets cast all around .

my life for instance. I was on disability. I moved to be with my ex while she was pregnant. What I DID NOT KNOW was that SHE WAS SO FAR IN DEBT. I thought ok I'll help out and do what we gotta do. But then little stuff started to come out and it wasn't about me and her and the baby it was now OUR BILLS. I didn't even make them but now they are OURS because of the baby. Meanwhile she's not saving anything that comes in BUT SHE ISN'T TELLING. Just acting like I'm going to make it better because that's what men are supposed to do.

so this goes on for a while and now its WELL I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. But when I asked before NONE of that was shared. So now I'm the bad guy because I can't support her habits. Then the kicker was I watched the baby the first year she was alive. Waited on her hand and foot NEVER EVEN HAD A DIAPER RASH UNDER MY CARE. Her mom says that she wants to put her in day care so I can go work. I say cool, but I don't get a choice in the day care and now it's another bill without my consent. That somehow becomes my fault as well. We broke up not surprisingly.

It is more about being a victim than anything. passing the blame is not going to help. But in the eyes of her and her family I'm a deadbeat for not contributing to her failed ways.

sometimes you just can't win
rex
 Quoting: acegotflows


Another decent guy screwed by the 'deadbeat' system. Epic fail there feminazis.

Oh - since you are on disability, when you do move out and are hit with child support you have a provision courtesy of the US Govt - that allows your disability to pay the court ordered support payment WITHOUT affecting your monthly amount. Check in to it. Only those on Disability have this setup - not SSI recipients - only SSDI recipients.

Gotta love our screwed up society!
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its really about more than just the baby. it's a crazy cycle

we live in a NOW NOW NOW society. All convenience. People don't think they can get pregnant as easy because they got condoms and pills and such. But if you can't afford to have a child now you want somebody to help you pay your bills. Now gender roles are non-existent as everybody works so blame just gets cast all around .

my life for instance. I was on disability. I moved to be with my ex while she was pregnant. What I DID NOT KNOW was that SHE WAS SO FAR IN DEBT. I thought ok I'll help out and do what we gotta do. But then little stuff started to come out and it wasn't about me and her and the baby it was now OUR BILLS. I didn't even make them but now they are OURS because of the baby. Meanwhile she's not saving anything that comes in BUT SHE ISN'T TELLING. Just acting like I'm going to make it better because that's what men are supposed to do.

so this goes on for a while and now its WELL I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. But when I asked before NONE of that was shared. So now I'm the bad guy because I can't support her habits. Then the kicker was I watched the baby the first year she was alive. Waited on her hand and foot NEVER EVEN HAD A DIAPER RASH UNDER MY CARE. Her mom says that she wants to put her in day care so I can go work. I say cool, but I don't get a choice in the day care and now it's another bill without my consent. That somehow becomes my fault as well. We broke up not surprisingly.

It is more about being a victim than anything. passing the blame is not going to help. But in the eyes of her and her family I'm a deadbeat for not contributing to her failed ways.

sometimes you just can't win
rex
 Quoting: acegotflows


Another decent guy screwed by the 'deadbeat' system. Epic fail there feminazis.

Oh - since you are on disability, when you do move out and are hit with child support you have a provision courtesy of the US Govt - that allows your disability to pay the court ordered support payment WITHOUT affecting your monthly amount. Check in to it. Only those on Disability have this setup - not SSI recipients - only SSDI recipients.

Gotta love our screwed up society!
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they already dip into it because of student loans. If they don't get you one way they will get you another. Sometimes you just can't win. I know, I tried.
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"