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The "Chosen People Of God" Don't Even Believe In God

 
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Here's a simple explanation from Judaism 101 website.

[link to www.jewfaq.org]


It is important to note that being a Jew has nothing to do with what you believe or what you do.

A person born to non-Jewish parents who has not undergone the formal process of conversion but who believes everything that Orthodox Jews believe and observes every law and custom of Judaism is still a non-Jew, even in the eyes of the most liberal movements of Judaism.

And a person born to a Jewish mother who is an atheist and never practices the Jewish religion is still a Jew, even in the eyes of the ultra-Orthodox.

In this sense, Judaism is more like a nationality than like other religions, and being Jewish is like a citizenship.


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Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
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It is important to note that being a Jew has nothing to do with what you believe or what you do.

A person born to non-Jewish parents who has not undergone the formal process of conversion but who believes everything that Orthodox Jews believe and observes every law and custom of Judaism is still a non-Jew, even in the eyes of the most liberal movements of Judaism.

And a person born to a Jewish mother who is an atheist and never practices the Jewish religion is still a Jew, even in the eyes of the ultra-Orthodox.

In this sense, Judaism is more like a nationality than like other religions, and being Jewish is like a citizenship.


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Habaru (Hebrews) have a legit bloodline.
Jewish do not. Judaism is just a religion
practiced by ancient Habaru.

Once the floodgates opened to conversions,
this is when the infiltration of Zionism
crept into the religion. A Jew became
a shortened version of Hebrew (Habaru).

Judaism is NOT a race, therefore it can
have no bloodline.
Judaism is only a religion
shared between human beings. And some of those
who infiltrated it, used it for their own
greedy purposes. This became known as Zionism.

Very few who consider themselves Jews today
have actual legit Hebrew ancestors. Most Hebrew
tribes today do not marry outside their clan
or bloodline and remain remote and isolated
in the same spot they fled from after the exodus.

This is the clean-up that Hitler was trying to
accomplish. Hitler didn't bother the actual Hebrew
tribes of Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, India, South
Africa (lost tribes).
Hitler went after converted Jews who were corrupting
the Hebrew religion.

Hitler never abused 1 single legit Hebrew tribe.
Though he went after millions of religious imposters
known as Zionists.
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Only idiots who know NOTHING of Judaism
believe its just a religion and you can
quit whenever you want.

Once a Jew, ALWAYS a Jew.

You can be a non-practicing Jew
but you can never be non-Jew.

You can be an Jew-Athiest
but you can never be just an athiest

Once a Jews, ALWAYS a Jew.

Its in your blood.
Thats who you are.
Forever.

There's no getting out!

All Jews are genetically linked.

ALL!

Get it through you thick heads you ignorant foolish gentiles! tounge
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If all Jews are genetically linked, then why do the white Jews hate the black Jews?


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Many of those 'black Jews' are not Jews, but rather Muslim immigrants.
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I really think this is the most confusing topic ever.
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02/18/2013 09:58 PM
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1. Israel is a nation, not religion or race
2. We were *chosen* to receive the Torah
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1. Israel is a nation, not religion or race
2. We were *chosen* to receive the Torah
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Israel is a corrupt Zionist nation
and is the creation of Zionist' Rothschild.

The HEBREWS were chosen to receive the Torah.
The word Jew had not been invented yet
when the Torah was given.

There was no letter J in the Hebrew language
in 1,000 BC.
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1. Israel is a nation, not religion or race
2. We were *chosen* to receive the Torah
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Israel is a corrupt Zionist nation
and is the creation of Zionist' Rothschild.

The HEBREWS were chosen to receive the Torah.
The word Jew had not been invented yet
when the Torah was given.

There was no letter J in the Hebrew language
in 1,000 BC.
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some on this thread need enlightening.

God's supposed covenant was with Hebrews,
not Jewish.
There is a difference here.

Judaism was just a religion that ancient
Hebrews practiced.

Hebrews have a bloodline.
Jewish do not.

Others can convert to the Judaism religion
bu they can never be Hebrew unless by blood.

Here is where the ruse starts,
when Europeans converted to
Judaism without being in the
Hebrew bloodline. This infiltration
is what became known as Zionism.

They were not always known as Hebrews.
The tribes of Hebrews shared a common
ancestry with Egyptians. The Pharaohs'
bloodlines came from Habaru tribes.
The Habaru through translations became
what we call Hebrew. The Egyptian upper
class became Pharaohs and the lower class
Habaru became slaves to the Pharaohs.

It was the lower class of Habaru that fled
Egypt and became Hebrews. Some of that
ancient mystical work in Egypt went with
the Habaru and became what we now call
Judaism which was the foundational basis
for it's offspring called Christianity.
This is why origins of both Judaism and
Christianity can be found in ancient Egypt.
you

And Ieosus was an Egyptian Pharaoh who
had to flew Egypt due to Roman occupation.
Ieosus/Issa became what we call today
Jesus. He was the son of Cleopatra and
Julius Caesar who tried to get his
kingdom back with spirituality he had learned
in Tibet at the Hemis Buddhist monestary.

There were 3 major Habaru wars between
Habaru and Romans in the 1st and 2nd Century.

What you read in the KJV Bible is nothing
but a Psy-Op created by Romans to crush
that Habaru uprising and make Roman slaves
again of the Habaru (Hebrews).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34714934


some on this thread need enlightening.

God's supposed covenant was with Hebrews,
not Jewish.
There is a difference here.

Judaism was just a religion that ancient
Hebrews practiced.

Hebrews have a bloodline.
Jewish do not.

Others can convert to the Judaism religion
bu they can never be Hebrew unless by blood.

Here is where the ruse starts,
when Europeans converted to
Judaism without being in the
Hebrew bloodline. This infiltration
is what became known as Zionism.

They were not always known as Hebrews.
The tribes of Hebrews shared a common
ancestry with Egyptians. The Pharaohs'
bloodlines came from Habaru tribes.
The Habaru through translations became
what we call Hebrew. The Egyptian upper
class became Pharaohs and the lower class
Habaru became slaves to the Pharaohs.

It was the lower class of Habaru that fled
Egypt and became Hebrews. Some of that
ancient mystical work in Egypt went with
the Habaru and became what we now call
Judaism which was the foundational basis
for it's offspring called Christianity.
This is why origins of both Judaism and
Christianity can be found in ancient Egypt.

And Ieosus was an Egyptian Pharaoh who
had to flew Egypt due to Roman occupation.
Ieosus/Issa became what we call today
Jesus. He was the son of Cleopatra and
Julius Caesar who tried to get his
kingdom back with spirituality he had learned
in Tibet at the Hemis Buddhist monestary.


There were 3 major Habaru wars between
Habaru and Romans in the 1st and 2nd Century.

no.you're confused. the Hebrews were made up of many nations, Israel was one of about 6 or 7. God made covenant with Israel. there is no Hebrew flooding. About 99% of Hebrews were not Israelites.

What you read in the KJV Bible is nothing
but a Psy-Op created by Romans to crush
that Habaru uprising and make Roman slaves
again of the Habaru (Hebrews).
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1. Israel is a nation, not religion or race
2. We were *chosen* to receive the Torah
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Israel is a corrupt Zionist nation
and is the creation of Zionist' Rothschild.

The HEBREWS were chosen to receive the Torah.
The word Jew had not been invented yet
when the Torah was given.

There was no letter J in the Hebrew language
in 1,000 BC.
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lol the Hebrews weren't given the Torah, Israel was. Israelites were Hebrews but they're were many non-Israelite Hebrews. you're confused...
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1. Israel is a nation, not religion or race
2. We were *chosen* to receive the Torah
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2148011


Israel is a corrupt Zionist nation
and is the creation of Zionist' Rothschild.

The HEBREWS were chosen to receive the Torah.
The word Jew had not been invented yet
when the Torah was given.

There was no letter J in the Hebrew language
in 1,000 BC.
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lol the Hebrews weren't given the Torah, Israel was. Israelites were Hebrews but they're were many non-Israelite Hebrews. you're confused...
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Hebrews weren't a nation, tribe or bloodline, they were an assortment of many nations who lived in and left Egypt together, Israel was a sub-sect
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Jacob was a Hebrew and Israelites descend from Jacob. Its simple
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lol the Hebrews weren't given the Torah, Israel was. Israelites were Hebrews but they're were many non-Israelite Hebrews. you're confused...
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wrong, my friend.

the land that Moses infiltrated to
was known as Canaan. And there were
people already living there called
Canaanites.
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lol the Hebrews weren't given the Torah, Israel was. Israelites were Hebrews but they're were many non-Israelite Hebrews. you're confused...
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wrong, my friend.

the land that Moses infiltrated to
was known as Canaan. And there were
people already living there called
Canaanites.
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We all know that....God told us to destroy them...that's in the Torah too....but what does that have to do with not all Hebrews being Israelites?
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We all know that....God told us to destroy them...that's in the Torah too....but what does that have to do with not all Hebrews being Israelites?
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God just broke 3 of his own commandments.

when he entered into Canaan and decided
to make it home of the Hebrews he broke
the law

Thou shalt not covet

and when he had Hebrews kill the current
occupants of Canaan he broke the law again

Thou shalt not kill

and when he gave the land to the Hebrews
then he broke the law again

Thou shalt not steal

now why would God give instructions
to break his own laws ???

can you say hypocrite ???

if God had wanted the Hebrews to settle there,
why didn't he just give the people already
living there to urge to move and abandon
the land ???

then, no laws would have been broken.
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God told us to destroy them
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this is why I have such adoration
for the Ancient Egyptians.

At least they didn't use God as
a scapegoat for their conquests.

They didn't use a religious doctrine
to justify war and murder.

But using God to justify war and murder
seems to be the main principles of today's
3 main religions:

Judaism
Islam
Christianity

which by the way,
all 3 of them have origins
in Egypt mixed with Roman
manipulation after the fact.
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The God of Israel loves the earth and animals, but not humans. that's completely understandable. if it wasn't for Israel, humans would be extinct. !
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the term Habaru can be traced back
to ancient Summerian tablets.

[link to www.israel-a-history-of.com]

[link to www.israel-a-history-of.com]

Sumeria existed 2,000 yrs before the term
Israel was created.

Habaru came first. (Sumeria)
Then came Hebrews (translation) (Exodus to Canaan)
Then came Israel (later translation) (National Zionist State)
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You people are fucking idiots. It's a religion not a ethnic group dumb fucks.
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You people are fucking idiots. It's a religion not a ethnic group dumb fucks.
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Hebrews are a bloodline.
Jewry is a religion.
Zionism is an infiltrated Jewry.

I would guess that more than half
of the people who call themselves
Jews today

do NOT have Hebrew blood.

So today's Zionist state of Israel is NOT
protected by God's covenant with the
original Hebrews. Therefore, they are
NOT God's chosen people.
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here is a great book to read

[link to www.goodreads.com]

Canaan in the Second Millennium B.C.E.
by Nadav Na'Aman
Professor at Tel-Aviv Univ.
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Any of you "Chosen people" care to offer your input on this, or are you going to run off and hide again.
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I'm Jewish but I can't explain this bullshit. Judaism is a religion, as many here have stated. It's not a fucking race. To look at me and my family, you'd think we were just plain old white people--BECAUSE WE ARE.

When the Jews in my family say we're Jewish, we mean we worship the Lord of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and observe the mitzvah (eh--not always). My brother is an atheist and he would rather be called anything than a Jew.

I think the atheists from Jewish families just want to hold on to the cultural identity of the Jewish community where they live. They like the food, the Yiddish, the stand up comedy, etc.

For me and my family, this wouldn't be an issue because there is no Jewish community where we live. We moved here (WV) from New Orleans when I was very young. Here, I have to travel two counties just to find another Jewish family.
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I understand what you mean.

However, your brother is stuck.

He can never get rid of his Jewish identity.

He can be a non-practicing Jew like the ones in hollywood.

But at the end of the day, he always remain a Jew.
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Nonsense. Well, perhaps by Nazi standards.

But I can assure you, my brother is no more a Jew than the Pope is.
A subject observes itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself ad infinitum.
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Maybe this would help some people understand the concept of 12 Jewish tribes.

These people over the years scattered all over the world and have different facial racial characteristics but they're all still Jewish.

[link to www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org]

hf
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That doesn't explain why the white Jews are trying to holocaust the black Jews.
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What do you mean it doesnt explain?

Joseph was sold by his own brothers to slavery.

It only shows that Jews are just human like everyone else.

They also fight and try to kill eachother over stupid lil things.

So if the white Jews dont like the black and the blacks dont like the whites, its no big deal. This is human nature. Its always been like this and probably will never change. Humans feel more comfortable surrounded by others who look like them.

hf
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So Jews are just as fucked in the head as the "gentiles" they love to make fun of and condemn for being fucked in the head.

Okay.

That makes perfect sense.

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