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WAKE UP!!!!! ROCKS from HEAVEN!

 
SoulWinner

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02/19/2013 10:08 PM

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Hi, thanks for replying earlier. You said I was not bugging you and could continue asking questions. Here goes...You said that people must deny themselves and follow Jesus Christ's example in order to reach heaven. (I hope that was a fair summary--please correct me if I am wrong). If so, how do you explain the thief on the cross who had no opportunity to fulfill those requirements? Jesus promised that thief he woudl be with Jesus in paradise. I ask this because I think salvation truly is the ultimate free pass, beyond our capacity fully to grasp.
 Quoting: SoulWinner 908525


The thief is easy to explain.

Jesus himself said that when the Son of Man comes, the comforter whom he sent, will take what was Jesus', his teachings, and make them his own.

Thus stealing them.



12I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. 15All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

The thief is the end time servant.

Hello.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


You realize your statement is nonsense, right? Stop pulling our legs.
 Quoting: SoulWinner 911147


He doesn't think like you because he isn't like you. Perhaps he gave you something, free of charge, to chew on.

As an answer to your question, how about 'the first shall last, and the last shall be first.'

Which is another example of contradictions and paradoxes, veiled meanings and inverted logic. Some logicians can turn an argument on its head while freewheeling. These are the ones who are at the top of the feeding chain, but they are so removed from most people's thinking that their explanations can't be grasped.

In other words, just because you don't understand it doesn't mean that it's not understandable. It might mean that you don't have the right tools or capacity to discern it properly.
 Quoting: Dead Man 34643383

Or, I know nonsense when I see it.
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SoulWinner

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02/19/2013 10:13 PM

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Hi, thanks for replying earlier. You said I was not bugging you and could continue asking questions. Here goes...You said that people must deny themselves and follow Jesus Christ's example in order to reach heaven. (I hope that was a fair summary--please correct me if I am wrong). If so, how do you explain the thief on the cross who had no opportunity to fulfill those requirements? Jesus promised that thief he woudl be with Jesus in paradise. I ask this because I think salvation truly is the ultimate free pass, beyond our capacity fully to grasp.
 Quoting: SoulWinner 908525


The thief is easy to explain.

Jesus himself said that when the Son of Man comes, the comforter whom he sent, will take what was Jesus', his teachings, and make them his own.

Thus stealing them.



12I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. 15All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

The thief is the end time servant.

Hello.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


You realize your statement is nonsense, right? Stop pulling our legs.
 Quoting: SoulWinner 911147


Is this nonsense? Can you vouch for its validity?


 Quoting: Dead Man 34643383

Won't vouch for something i have no intention of watching. No intetest in your attempts to enlighten me toward your way of thinking.
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02/19/2013 11:55 PM
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Hi, thanks for replying earlier. You said I was not bugging you and could continue asking questions. Here goes...You said that people must deny themselves and follow Jesus Christ's example in order to reach heaven. (I hope that was a fair summary--please correct me if I am wrong). If so, how do you explain the thief on the cross who had no opportunity to fulfill those requirements? Jesus promised that thief he woudl be with Jesus in paradise. I ask this because I think salvation truly is the ultimate free pass, beyond our capacity fully to grasp.
 Quoting: SoulWinner 908525


The thief is easy to explain.

Jesus himself said that when the Son of Man comes, the comforter whom he sent, will take what was Jesus', his teachings, and make them his own.

Thus stealing them.



12I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. 15All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

The thief is the end time servant.

Hello.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


You realize your statement is nonsense, right? Stop pulling our legs.
 Quoting: SoulWinner 911147


I am not pulling your leg.

I am dragging you by it into the Kingdom of Heaven.

You can scream and holler all you like about it.

You will get there anyway.

If I have to, I will throw you on my back.
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Anonymous Coward
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02/20/2013 08:31 AM
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The thief is easy to explain.

Jesus himself said that when the Son of Man comes, the comforter whom he sent, will take what was Jesus', his teachings, and make them his own.

Thus stealing them.



12I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. 15All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

The thief is the end time servant.

Hello.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


You realize your statement is nonsense, right? Stop pulling our legs.
 Quoting: SoulWinner 911147


He doesn't think like you because he isn't like you. Perhaps he gave you something, free of charge, to chew on.

As an answer to your question, how about 'the first shall last, and the last shall be first.'

Which is another example of contradictions and paradoxes, veiled meanings and inverted logic. Some logicians can turn an argument on its head while freewheeling. These are the ones who are at the top of the feeding chain, but they are so removed from most people's thinking that their explanations can't be grasped.

In other words, just because you don't understand it doesn't mean that it's not understandable. It might mean that you don't have the right tools or capacity to discern it properly.
 Quoting: Dead Man 34643383

Or, I know nonsense when I see it.
 Quoting: SoulWinner


Apparently you're short circuiting.

I'll give you a little secret to the 'nonsense'. It 'IS' because He says it 'IS'.

Have you ever read how the Lord cursed a fig tree and it later died? He CURSED! OH NO! Did He say 'darn you fig tree'?? I doubt it. He probably said something like 'this damn tree', or 'f'n tree'.

What He says 'is' because He says it is. He is a god. He can't 'lie' because what he says comes (or 'becomes') TRUE. That's a pretty simple black and white, logical explanation.

Can you wrap your brain around that one?
Dead Man
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02/20/2013 08:39 AM
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If you read between the lines of scripture very carefully, you can hear the Lord complaining to his Dad a little, saying 'Pa, why did you give me such dullards?'
Dead Man
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The Lord's brilliance is quite remarkable. When He decides to turn it on, it will blow you away. You will have never heard anything so insightful, full of genius, and yet honed to the bone simple.

I love those moments.
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You realize your statement is nonsense, right? Stop pulling our legs.
 Quoting: SoulWinner 911147


He doesn't think like you because he isn't like you. Perhaps he gave you something, free of charge, to chew on.

As an answer to your question, how about 'the first shall last, and the last shall be first.'

Which is another example of contradictions and paradoxes, veiled meanings and inverted logic. Some logicians can turn an argument on its head while freewheeling. These are the ones who are at the top of the feeding chain, but they are so removed from most people's thinking that their explanations can't be grasped.

In other words, just because you don't understand it doesn't mean that it's not understandable. It might mean that you don't have the right tools or capacity to discern it properly.
 Quoting: Dead Man 34643383

Or, I know nonsense when I see it.
 Quoting: SoulWinner


Apparently you're short circuiting.

I'll give you a little secret to the 'nonsense'. It 'IS' because He says it 'IS'.

Have you ever read how the Lord cursed a fig tree and it later died? He CURSED! OH NO! Did He say 'darn you fig tree'?? I doubt it. He probably said something like 'this damn tree', or 'f'n tree'.

What He says 'is' because He says it is. He is a god. He can't 'lie' because what he says comes (or 'becomes') TRUE. That's a pretty simple black and white, logical explanation.

Can you wrap your brain around that one?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34643383


Are you taking offense at my response to someone else, or are you posting comments under two names?

The Lord Jesus Christ is God, not "a god." Referring to Him as "a god" is blasphemy, because He is God. When He cursed the fig tree, He did not use profanity because He never sinned. Every Word He says is Truth. The Lord Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Nobody comes to the Father except by Him.

Sincere question: Do you think you are especially clever?


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