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To all the self-righteous christians on this site who quote bible passages as evidence...

 
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Why do people quote biblical scriptures to support their position when those same scriptures CANNOT be traced back to originals for comparison?
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The Scriptures´ meaning is of importance, not their origin.
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Origin IS important when claims are made that it is the infallible word of God! Meanings of importance can be found everywhere - they are not restricted to the bible!!
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Psalm 18:30
As for God, his way is perfect: the word of the Lord is tried: he is a buckler to all those that trust in him.
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Ppl atacking the Bible have it backwards. It´s your lifes that are at stake, no one´s else. No one has to persuade anybody. To everybody his own.
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That\'s only what you\'ve convinced yourself to believe so that you can feel confidence/assurance about your choices in your beliefs. Every religion does the same - conjures up undesirable outcomes for the alleged \'non-believers\'. If there was no punishment for not believing the dogma, then the religions would not be able to retain their followers.

Nice try though. wink
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I have 30 years experience with God´s words applied in my life and know better. You will never move on without giving it just a try. Nevermind, not my business.
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You made it your business by alleging that anyone who doesn't follow the bible needs to worry about their 'lives being at stake", as if to make a passive-aggressive threat and then you pretended like it wasn't any of your business and everyone needs to do their own thing. How does this sound to you?

"Let everyone follow their own path but if you don't follow mine, your life is in danger!:

Confidence inspiring huh?

I'm glad you had 30 years of experience with your chosen path and that it has worked out for you. Why is it that you can't acknowledge that your choices were specific and unique to you, and that there can be many paths to the same destination? Do you really believe that your way is the only way, and everyone else needs to do exactly as you have done? Where is the wisdom in that? Individuals have lived in all different areas in the world and across thousands and thousands of years of human history. How about respecting other peoples' beliefs without having to insinuate that their lives/souls are in danger for not adhering to YOURS?

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The Scriptures´ meaning is of importance, not their origin.
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Origin IS important when claims are made that it is the infallible word of God! Meanings of importance can be found everywhere - they are not restricted to the bible!!
 Quoting: Ozicell


Depends on their relevance, e.g. prophecy.
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So what is the measure you use to determine between prophecy and false prophecy?
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The actual happenings through the world. No Apocalypse for you yet?
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Re: To all the self-righteous christians on this site who quote bible passages as evidence...
Why do people quote biblical scriptures to support their position when those same scriptures CANNOT be traced back to originals for comparison?
 Quoting: Ozicell


The Scriptures´ meaning is of importance, not their origin.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


Origin IS important when claims are made that it is the infallible word of God! Meanings of importance can be found everywhere - they are not restricted to the bible!!
 Quoting: Ozicell


Yeah you're right meanings and signs can be seen in everything or anything but they SHOULD lead you back to something that is in the bible.
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Why do people quote biblical scriptures to support their position when those same scriptures CANNOT be traced back to originals for comparison?
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Whether or not you believe it - you do know that Christianity is based on FAITH? If so, why ya complaining about what a person believes in?
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What others believe is of little interest to me, I am just making the observation that faith based on hearsay is on shaky ground! But if others are comfortable with that, they are entitled to believe whatever they wish!
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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Ppl atacking the Bible have it backwards. It´s your lifes that are at stake, no one´s else. No one has to persuade anybody. To everybody his own.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


That\\\'s only what you\\\'ve convinced yourself to believe so that you can feel confidence/assurance about your choices in your beliefs. Every religion does the same - conjures up undesirable outcomes for the alleged \\\'non-believers\\\'. If there was no punishment for not believing the dogma, then the religions would not be able to retain their followers.

Nice try though. wink
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


I have 30 years experience with God´s words applied in my life and know better. You will never move on without giving it just a try. Nevermind, not my business.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


You made it your business by alleging that anyone who doesn\'t follow the bible needs to worry about their \'lives being at stake\", as if to make a passive-aggressive threat and then you pretended like it wasn\'t any of your business and everyone needs to do their own thing. How does this sound to you?

\"Let everyone follow their own path but if you don\'t follow mine, your life is in danger!:

Confidence inspiring huh?

I\'m glad you had 30 years of experience with your chosen path and that it has worked out for you. Why is it that you can\'t acknowledge that your choices were specific and unique to you, and that there can be many paths to the same destination? Do you really believe that your way is the only way, and everyone else needs to do exactly as you have done? Where is the wisdom in that? Individuals have lived in all different areas in the world and across thousands and thousands of years of human history. How about respecting other peoples\' beliefs without having to insinuate that their lives/souls are in danger for not following YOURS?

1dunno1
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Read my postings again: I don´t persuade anybody what to do or believe. It´s everyone´s choice. No business of mine at all.

What am used to do is to inform ignorant ppl, ignorant on the Bible.
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Origin IS important when claims are made that it is the infallible word of God! Meanings of importance can be found everywhere - they are not restricted to the bible!!
 Quoting: Ozicell


Depends on their relevance, e.g. prophecy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


So what is the measure you use to determine between prophecy and false prophecy?
 Quoting: Ozicell


The actual happenings through the world. No Apocalypse for you yet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


I actually am getting excited seeing Biblical prophecy unfolding. This, however, does not prove the whole bible as fact!
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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Depends on their relevance, e.g. prophecy.
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So what is the measure you use to determine between prophecy and false prophecy?
 Quoting: Ozicell


The actual happenings through the world. No Apocalypse for you yet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749



Again, and over again: it´s your personal choice. I don´t care.

I actually am getting excited seeing Biblical prophecy unfolding. This, however, does not prove the whole bible as fact!
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What's your logic? I mean really?

You think it proves something?

And where the did the authors of these texts get this information? I'll tell you. From the same place authors of children's book get their information - from their imagination.

Ever heard of the term "self-righteous"? That's exactly what people who quote bible passages to support their argument are.
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You will regret these words some day.
every knee will bow, yours too
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We'll all be sucking the Lord's penis?
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No, when we stand in His presence, we will be begging for mercy & forgiveness. He will then say 'Well done, good and faithful servant!, or 'I don't know you or where you come from. Away from me, all you evildoers!
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Why do people quote biblical scriptures to support their position when those same scriptures CANNOT be traced back to originals for comparison?
 Quoting: Ozicell


Whether or not you believe it - you do know that Christianity is based on FAITH? If so, why ya complaining about what a person believes in?
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What others believe is of little interest to me, I am just making the observation that faith based on hearsay is on shaky ground! But if others are comfortable with that, they are entitled to believe whatever they wish!
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It's "shaky ground" to you because you don't believe it. Duh.
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Read my postings again: I don´t persuade anybody what to do or believe. It´s everyone´s choice. No business of mine at all.

What am used to do is to inform ignorant ppl, ignorant on the Bible.
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I would never have a issue with you (or anyone else) telling others of your beliefs/experiences from the context of "This is what works for me, see if it works for you".

But please understand that when the context changes to individuals seeking to plant a seed of fear or doubt and make direct/indirect references to undesirable punishment/consequences for others not adhering to their beliefs, that is when they do themselves and others a disservice.

That's all I'm saying. Share with others what you belief in but never from the context that is designed to make them feel fear or doubt. Wisdom is only sourced from the heart, and fear/doubt are instead emotions of the brain (mind). Fear/doubt is used to control others, not to help them find truth/wisdom.

peace

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I would never have a issue with you (or anyone else) telling others of your beliefs/experiences from the context of "This is what works for me, see if it works for you".

But please understand that when the context changes to individuals seeking to plant a seed of fear or doubt and make direct/indirect references to undesirable punishment/consequences for others not adhering to their beliefs, that is when you do yourself and others a disservice.

That's all I'm saying. Share with others what you belief in but never from the context that is designed to make them feel fear, guilt, or doubt.
Wisdom is sourced from the heart and those 3 emotions above are emotions sourced in the brain (mind).

peace
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Read my postings again: I don´t persuade anybody what to do or believe. It´s everyone´s choice. No business of mine at all.

What am used to do is to inform ignorant ppl, ignorant on the Bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


I would never have a issue with you (or anyone else) telling others of your beliefs/experiences from the context of \"This is what works for me, see if it works for you\".

But please understand that when the context changes to individuals seeking to plant a seed of fear or doubt and make direct/indirect references to undesirable punishment/consequences for others not adhering to their beliefs, that is when you do yourself and others a disservice.

That\'s all I\'m saying. Share with others what you belief in but never from the context that is designed to make them feel fear, guilt, or doubt.
Wisdom is sourced from the heart and those 3 emotions above are emotions sourced in the brain (mind).

peace
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Do you wont to know The flaw in your thinking above?
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Yeah if you live by the Bible, youll be much happier. But apart from that its really nothing at all, We know that most of the Bible is wrong in context, date and reference and thats just the believeable parts.
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Do you wont to know The flaw in your thinking above?
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Fire away.

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Do you wont to know The flaw in your thinking above?
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Fire away.
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Beginning with, you are no god, not even divine. Agreed? - I don´t think so. And you will be proven wrong.


Anyways, meaning you need inspiration from outside, from above. etc.
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Re: To all the self-righteous christians on this site who quote bible passages as evidence...
The Word of God is precious.
God says He honors His Word above His own name.
The third person of the Trinity calls Himself
THE WORD OF GOD - Jesus Christ.

You can do NOTHING better in print than to quote
the Word of God.

Day and night,
Night and day.

Heaven and Earth will pass away, but
God\'s Word will NEVER pass away.

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Amen, Jesus said to beat slaves in Luke 12:47.
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Try out, may be it would help you. Slave.
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Who you calling slave?
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"if you could reason with religious people, then there wouldn't be any religious people"
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This is one of the best quotes I've ever heard. Good one.
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Re: To all the self-righteous christians on this site who quote bible passages as evidence...
The Word of God is precious.
God says He honors His Word above His own name.
The third person of the Trinity calls Himself
THE WORD OF GOD - Jesus Christ.

You can do NOTHING better in print than to quote
the Word of God.

Day and night,
Night and day.

Heaven and Earth will pass away, but
God\\\'s Word will NEVER pass away.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34744131


Amen, Jesus said to beat slaves in Luke 12:47.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34684171


Try out, may be it would help you. Slave.
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Who you calling slave?
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You have heard right.
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Re: To all the self-righteous christians on this site who quote bible passages as evidence...
What's your logic? I mean really?

You think it proves something?

And where the did the authors of these texts get this information? I'll tell you. From the same place authors of children's book get their information - from their imagination.

Ever heard of the term "self-righteous"? That's exactly what people who quote bible passages to support their argument are.
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Oh my, you are a silly, un-informed child.

We can appreciate your need to act and sound superior; however, by now, you should have actually done some reading on your own, instead of allowing your opinions to be fed to you by so called intellectuals.

Have yourself a great morning sunshine.

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Thank you, it does get tiresome on here more often then not.
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Do you wont to know The flaw in your thinking above?
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Fire away.
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Beginning with, you are no god, not even divine. Agreed? - I don´t think so. And you will be proven wrong.


Anyways, meaning you need inspiration from outside, from above. etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


You don't even know what I believe yet but apparently you want to assume that you do. How can you confidently state that I will be proven wrong when you didn't even leave the question open to be answered?

1dunno1

I do not personify 'God' and project human qualities & traits onto this higher power because I believe it would clearly transcend such human limitations. I believe your bible says that 'God is Light' in a passage, right? I also believe that. The light from which all consciousness originates from and source that drives the Universe and all the dimensions of existence. The Creator is the sum of all Creation in my eyes. We are parts of the whole and that is why it was said the kingdom of heaven is within - we originate from that source and have to look WITHIN to reconnect.

So tell me, now that you actually know what I believe, please show me how I could possibly believe that I am a 'God'? I show my respect for the Creator by acknowledging and respecting the Creation - not through adherence to any dogmatic belief systems that have been manipulated and corrupted by men who held authority and sought to control others for their own personal & political gain.

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Re: To all the self-righteous christians on this site who quote bible passages as evidence...
The Bible is a bigger authority than you will ever be.
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And just how do YOU know this???You don't....you simply believe it is real
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Never met anyone important enough to lie to.....
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Do you wont to know The flaw in your thinking above?
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Fire away.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Beginning with, you are no god, not even divine. Agreed? - I don´t think so. And you will be proven wrong.


Anyways, meaning you need inspiration from outside, from above. etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


You don\'t even know what I believe yet but apparently you want to assume that you do. How can you confidently state that I will be proven wrong when you didn\'t even leave the question open to be answered?

1dunno1

I do not personify \'God\' and project human qualities & traits onto this higher power because I believe it would clearly transcend such human limitations. I believe your bible says that \'God is Light\' in a passage, right? I also believe that. The light from which all consciousness originates from and source that drives the Universe and all the dimensions of existence. The Creator is the sum of all Creation in my eyes. We are parts of the whole and that is why it was said the kingdom of heaven is within - we originate from that source and have to look WITHIN to reconnect.

So tell me, now that you actually know what I believe, please show me how I could possibly believe that I am a \'God\'? I show my respect for the Creator by acknowledging and respecting the Creation - not through adherence to any dogmatic belief systems that have been manipulated and corrupted by men who held authority and sought to control others.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


You cannot analise your own assertion, I can. You was speaking of your mind and heard being the ultimate arbiter. Meaning you believe they are good enough to do the job aka being divine and yours = you believe being one. Got it now?
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The Bible is a bigger authority than you will ever be.
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And just how do YOU know this???You don\'t....you simply believe it is real
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Well, for the thousands of years, already.
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A book indeed.
Even art and poetry raise intellectual debate, yet this must not be either as it seems the more its used, the dumber one becomes.
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I think the Aussie went to sleep.
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You cannot analise your own assertion, I can. You was speaking of your mind and heard being the ultimate arbiter. Meaning you believe they are good enough to do the job aka being divine and yours = you believe being one. Got it now?
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Please re-type and communicate in English so I can respond.

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Fire away.
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Beginning with, you are no god, not even divine. Agreed? - I don´t think so. And you will be proven wrong.


Anyways, meaning you need inspiration from outside, from above. etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


You don\'t even know what I believe yet but apparently you want to assume that you do. How can you confidently state that I will be proven wrong when you didn\'t even leave the question open to be answered?

1dunno1

I do not personify \'God\' and project human qualities & traits onto this higher power because I believe it would clearly transcend such human limitations. I believe your bible says that \'God is Light\' in a passage, right? I also believe that. The light from which all consciousness originates from and source that drives the Universe and all the dimensions of existence. The Creator is the sum of all Creation in my eyes. We are parts of the whole and that is why it was said the kingdom of heaven is within - we originate from that source and have to look WITHIN to reconnect.

So tell me, now that you actually know what I believe, please show me how I could possibly believe that I am a \'God\'? I show my respect for the Creator by acknowledging and respecting the Creation - not through adherence to any dogmatic belief systems that have been manipulated and corrupted by men who held authority and sought to control others.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


You cannot analise your own assertion, I can. You was speaking of your mind and heard being the ultimate arbiter. Meaning you believe they are good enough to do the job aka being divine and yours = you believe being one. Got it now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749


wtf
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I think the Aussie went to sleep.
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Nope, still here, I'm waiting for a Christian who can actually debate by logical means to post, before then there isn't much point arguing with these brick walls.
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