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Men need to stop the hate against women

 
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Men need to stop the hate against women
There are always sooooo many women-bashing threads here on glp.
It is a surprise when there is not a misogynist thread posted here.
There are not even 1% of the same kind of man bashing threads here.
Men, don't you realize that women come to this forum too? But with all the hate you are chasing them away. Intense anger, and damaging words are more damaging on women than for men, it seems, although that is not good for anyone.
I could say porn has warped a lot of men's minds and made them hate women more.
But ultimately, you men have to deal with your anger without blaming. That is the only way things will change for you.
There is also a thread posted now about an ex marine newscaster who assaulted his wife. Those threads accompany the threads about how men hate women. There is a pattern. men are not dealing with their anger in a constructive way.
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ban commitments and there will be no more women hatred around teh world.
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Been going on for years......Sad when you think of it :(
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Re: Men need to stop the hate against women
Commitment has nothing to do with men's anger.
Some men like commitment; some don't. Some women like commitment; some don't.
Men need to be more self aware. That will stop anger. Commitment has nothing to do with it.
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Women are not hated for nothing. We need to see in the source of all problems here. You cannot just stop it by saying it. We have to get to the roots and understand why the hatred? There are reasons.
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Commitment has nothing to do with men's anger.
Some men like commitment; some don't. Some women like commitment; some don't.
Men need to be more self aware. That will stop anger. Commitment has nothing to do with it.
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Commitments are anti-spiritual therefore unnatural hence the hatered. Unnatural ways bring the ugly to the act. It's just that a lot of men don't like to be manipulated by women, or anyone for that matter. Other men just live with it, accept their fate in the hands of the woman. And there are just few men that have such a strong character that woman doesn't even dare manipulate him, family is more or less stable.
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Women are not hated for nothing. We need to see in the source of all problems here. You cannot just stop it by saying it. We have to get to the roots and understand why the hatred? There are reasons.
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Yes I am sure everyone feels justified in their hatred of everyone and everything.
The fact is though, that not everyone acts on that hatred and anger.
Men tend to explode and that is damaging for the man but especially the woman.
Hatred and anger are an internal emotional state first and foremost. nipping it in the bud is best.
But acting on it and calling all women whores (which happens a lot here) is very damaging.
Or for the men who have no self control and who assault their women, it is life threatening.
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02/19/2013 08:53 AM
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hugs

patience , tolerance , forbearance.....
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Re: Men need to stop the hate against women
Commitment has nothing to do with men's anger.
Some men like commitment; some don't. Some women like commitment; some don't.
Men need to be more self aware. That will stop anger. Commitment has nothing to do with it.
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Commitments are anti-spiritual therefore unnatural hence the hatered. Unnatural ways bring the ugly to the act. It's just that a lot of men don't like to be manipulated by women, or anyone for that matter. Other men just live with it, accept their fate in the hands of the woman. And there are just few men that have such a strong character that woman doesn't even dare manipulate him, family is more or less stable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17865681


You can make a commitment to yourself. How is that anti spirtual?
If some men don't want to be with one woman, they should know themselves well enough not to make a commitment.
Some men like family commitment. Your example perhaps pertains to you, but not all men.

Anyway, the issue is not commitment in your example. The issue is people lying to themselves and others.
In your example, it seems that men lie and manipulate to get sex, and women lie and manipulate to get a relationship.
A commitment to not lie and manipulate would be a good solution.
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Agreed.
On most counts, especially the poor kids that grow up thinking porn is how its done. sad.


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why hate? they cook for me, massage me, clean me, listen to me, worship me.
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Re: Men need to stop the hate against women
Women are not hated for nothing. We need to see in the source of all problems here. You cannot just stop it by saying it. We have to get to the roots and understand why the hatred? There are reasons.
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Yes I am sure everyone feels justified in their hatred of everyone and everything.
The fact is though, that not everyone acts on that hatred and anger.
Men tend to explode and that is damaging for the man but especially the woman.
Hatred and anger are an internal emotional state first and foremost. nipping it in the bud is best.
But acting on it and calling all women whores (which happens a lot here) is very damaging.
Or for the men who have no self control and who assault their women, it is life threatening.
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you know what? i see what you see and i can think the same way-but i also know that you get some of those guys posting that one on one and theyre nothing like youd think.
Our societies broken.Men are under immense pressure to appear manly , not weak, not showing other men a woman can get to them.Sometimes their defense to keep themselves from being hurt is in there too.sometimes its what they hear as kids.

Im female and i know that if you get most of them one on one they really do not think like that, sad as it is.

Im not condoning it-but a lot is deeper than you first think just reading words.
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Re: Men need to stop the hate against women
Commitment has nothing to do with men's anger.
Some men like commitment; some don't. Some women like commitment; some don't.
Men need to be more self aware. That will stop anger. Commitment has nothing to do with it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26372742


Commitments are anti-spiritual therefore unnatural hence the hatered. Unnatural ways bring the ugly to the act. It's just that a lot of men don't like to be manipulated by women, or anyone for that matter. Other men just live with it, accept their fate in the hands of the woman. And there are just few men that have such a strong character that woman doesn't even dare manipulate him, family is more or less stable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17865681


You can make a commitment to yourself. How is that anti spirtual?
If some men don't want to be with one woman, they should know themselves well enough not to make a commitment.
Some men like family commitment. Your example perhaps pertains to you, but not all men.

Anyway, the issue is not commitment in your example. The issue is people lying to themselves and others.
In your example, it seems that men lie and manipulate to get sex, and women lie and manipulate to get a relationship.
A commitment to not lie and manipulate would be a good solution.
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The harsh truth is no matter how much you love the woman, you're stuck with her in the end and everything she throws at you. And there is no eternal love in the same context with a relationship. Eternal love is the one above relationships with women, or other separate objects from the whole. There are 4 types of love, the 4th one is the supreme kind of love where you are alone in it. Free.

So as long as we're talking relationships we are merely half of what we are and there will always be the ugly part present, sooner or later.
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Re: Men need to stop the hate against women
Women are not hated for nothing. We need to see in the source of all problems here. You cannot just stop it by saying it. We have to get to the roots and understand why the hatred? There are reasons.
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All anger comes from fear. Men fear the vagina. They fear the creature that can bleed and never die all her life. We are scary, mystical things that bring forth life...another great mystery that men cannot fathom. So, they seek to control it, and us. It's not really so hard when you think about it simplistically and consider human nature. Man applies "might makes right" to most dealings with his fellows, nothing has really changed since we were cave people. We just now have nuclear weapons and long range projectiles to take our neighbors land and resources with. We now have social science to manipulate the masses instead of the dictum of the shaman who has forbade certain places and plants and animals, and prescribes certain times to do certain things. We have evolved beyond those simple things, and even the few wild humans left on the planet can look to the skies and acknowledge that when they see our planes and rockets. I think most women just want to be acknowledged as the fellow humans of men, and respected accordingly. We do not want to trump you. We do not want to collect your balls in mason jars. We do not want to be your servants. We do not want to be your gestational crates. We do not want to be mistreated. We want the same love and respect men want. We want room for our dreams and desires. We are tired of hearing of how logical men are and how emotional we are, as if emotions are endemic only to women. Humans are emotional creatures. And none of us are residents of Vulcan.
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You cannot find a man in the whole world that has never been angry about women, more than once! Just different timelines for eachone is all. Meaning even the most intelligent people get pissed off at women stupidity. I am not saying women should be like that, but tha is the way they hacve become, the system made has built them like that, no other explanation. To escape hatered of women we must love them with our hearts, not with the fire of passion, but understanding and support.
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Women are not hated for nothing. We need to see in the source of all problems here. You cannot just stop it by saying it. We have to get to the roots and understand why the hatred? There are reasons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17865681


Yes I am sure everyone feels justified in their hatred of everyone and everything.
The fact is though, that not everyone acts on that hatred and anger.
Men tend to explode and that is damaging for the man but especially the woman.
Hatred and anger are an internal emotional state first and foremost. nipping it in the bud is best.
But acting on it and calling all women whores (which happens a lot here) is very damaging.
Or for the men who have no self control and who assault their women, it is life threatening.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26372742


you know what? i see what you see and i can think the same way-but i also know that you get some of those guys posting that one on one and theyre nothing like youd think.
Our societies broken.Men are under immense pressure to appear manly , not weak, not showing other men a woman can get to them.Sometimes their defense to keep themselves from being hurt is in there too.sometimes its what they hear as kids.

Im female and i know that if you get most of them one on one they really do not think like that, sad as it is.

Im not condoning it-but a lot is deeper than you first think just reading words.
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What you say may be true. But I can only go by what I read. And there is a lot of hatred directed towards women here.
It is also happening out in the real world too, where men are losing it and beating/killing their women.

Men need to support other men! Men need to provide spaces for other men to deal with their anger or frustration.
Just like there was a women's movement to help them become more active and speak up, there needs to be a men's movement to deal with their emotions and life changes.
For example:
Men need to support each other to try and change family law legislation. It is not going to come from the top down or from women. Men need to organize themselves to make that happen. Along with that, there needs to be space for men to express their emotions. Otherwise lasting change will not happen.

If men keep things bottled up, and are exposed to bad role model images like porn, then they will explode....and that is very damaging.
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Whore.
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Women are not hated for nothing. We need to see in the source of all problems here. You cannot just stop it by saying it. We have to get to the roots and understand why the hatred? There are reasons.
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All anger comes from fear. Men fear the vagina. They fear the creature that can bleed and never die all her life. We are scary, mystical things that bring forth life...another great mystery that men cannot fathom. So, they seek to control it, and us. It's not really so hard when you think about it simplistically and consider human nature. Man applies "might makes right" to most dealings with his fellows, nothing has really changed since we were cave people. We just now have nuclear weapons and long range projectiles to take our neighbors land and resources with. We now have social science to manipulate the masses instead of the dictum of the shaman who has forbade certain places and plants and animals, and prescribes certain times to do certain things. We have evolved beyond those simple things, and even the few wild humans left on the planet can look to the skies and acknowledge that when they see our planes and rockets. I think most women just want to be acknowledged as the fellow humans of men, and respected accordingly. We do not want to trump you. We do not want to collect your balls in mason jars. We do not want to be your servants. We do not want to be your gestational crates. We do not want to be mistreated. We want the same love and respect men want. We want room for our dreams and desires. We are tired of hearing of how logical men are and how emotional we are, as if emotions are endemic only to women. Humans are emotional creatures. And none of us are residents of Vulcan.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1324238


What an interesting perspective. Thank you.
I agree with your evaluation of what women want.
I especially agree with acknowledging that men have emotions. It is obvious, but a lot of men are in denial. They go straight to anger because that is a comfortable emotion for them. Expressing other emotions are uncomfortable.
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Women are not hated for nothing. We need to see in the source of all problems here. You cannot just stop it by saying it. We have to get to the roots and understand why the hatred? There are reasons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17865681


All anger comes from fear. Men fear the vagina. They fear the creature that can bleed and never die all her life. We are scary, mystical things that bring forth life...another great mystery that men cannot fathom. So, they seek to control it, and us. It's not really so hard when you think about it simplistically and consider human nature. Man applies "might makes right" to most dealings with his fellows, nothing has really changed since we were cave people. We just now have nuclear weapons and long range projectiles to take our neighbors land and resources with. We now have social science to manipulate the masses instead of the dictum of the shaman who has forbade certain places and plants and animals, and prescribes certain times to do certain things. We have evolved beyond those simple things, and even the few wild humans left on the planet can look to the skies and acknowledge that when they see our planes and rockets. I think most women just want to be acknowledged as the fellow humans of men, and respected accordingly. We do not want to trump you. We do not want to collect your balls in mason jars. We do not want to be your servants. We do not want to be your gestational crates. We do not want to be mistreated. We want the same love and respect men want. We want room for our dreams and desires. We are tired of hearing of how logical men are and how emotional we are, as if emotions are endemic only to women. Humans are emotional creatures. And none of us are residents of Vulcan.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1324238


I think the big thing here is the sex, oh yeah.. SEX! Men are trapped in the sex and they have a lot of conflicts sometimes, or a lot of times. A woman will never understand what sex possibility is like for a man. Sex is like a drug, women are the drug, and then men become aggressive because of energy and semen loss. And then they start hating it, and women and then the conflict arises, this is suffering. And just when they think they escaped there sex strikes again because it was suppressed, and the aggerssion abounds again, confusion.

I am almost certain that the only way to love women is to transcend sex.
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99 problems...
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human beings shouldn't hate other human beings. period.
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why hate? they cook for me, massage me, clean me, listen to me, worship me.
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Nice slaves you have there.
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why hate? they cook for me, massage me, clean me, listen to me, worship me.
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Nice slaves you have there.
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prolly asian.
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I knew my husband would be good to me, and was a good guy in all respects, when I saw how he treated his mother......

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human beings shouldn't hate other human beings. period.
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yes, they also should live in peace. Generally I think all todays world problems have at their roots eager of sex and power over others. But sex is suppressed this is how men become little monsters, ticking bombs.
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human beings shouldn't hate other human beings. period.
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There are always sooooo many women-bashing threads here on glp.
It is a surprise when there is not a misogynist thread posted here.
There are not even 1% of the same kind of man bashing threads here.
Men, don't you realize that women come to this forum too? But with all the hate you are chasing them away. Intense anger, and damaging words are more damaging on women than for men, it seems, although that is not good for anyone.
I could say porn has warped a lot of men's minds and made them hate women more.
But ultimately, you men have to deal with your anger without blaming. That is the only way things will change for you.
There is also a thread posted now about an ex marine newscaster who assaulted his wife. Those threads accompany the threads about how men hate women. There is a pattern. men are not dealing with their anger in a constructive way.
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YET YOU IGNORE ALL THE BULLSHIT WOMEN DISH OUT. FUCKING RETARD.
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Secure and confident men don't post thread after thread bitching and whining about women.

Thankfully I have a buddy list full of quality men that respect women and don't post such filth.
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Well if women stopped voting for the statists politicians, that would be a good start.

Women LOVE IT when politicians want to do something ``for the children``.

The commies LOVE the women vote.

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